1. Monster Skip Runs [ More than just end game dungeons ]

2. Hard Reserving of low level gear [ Not just Cruel Barb ]

3. Less Tank and Healers leveling [ You see them say it every day on reddit since the nerf ]

4. Tanks and Healers charging for their services for low level dungeons [ Not just end game ]

5. Less dungeons begin ran [ Meaning harder to find groups ]

6. Less social interactions [ Dungeons were the group activity, questing is primarily solo ]

7. Some dungeons being skipped entirely [ Alliance have no reason to run Shadow Fang Keep since there are no quests and no mob XP ]

There are more issues than just these, I normally just run a dungeon 3-5 times now trying to convince people to do that will be drastically harder.

why would cloth users help me do Scarlett Monetary Armory?

Will people just Skip SM Cath because you have to clear all mobs?

We have never had to ask these questions before and this is why people are so passionate about it, we are supposed to be playing this version Forever.

Just make Boosting a lifetime bannable offense.

In 2019, there was talk about how sharding wouldn’t work in Classic, due to things like Rexxar and his cross zone patrol.

This is why we got the ‘layering’ we know in Classic.

Does anyone know if they’ve changed the patrol of Rexxar? Or any kind of changes to handle the fact that we now have sharding?

Link - https://www.wowhead.com/classic/news/blizzard-clears-up-layering-tech-misconceptions-in-classic-wow-294589

Just fighting the good fight again. Punishing players who want to group up and play with friends is wrong and feels bad.

Not to mention issues like potentially lowering the amount of tanks and healers who want to get into dungeon and group content because they can no longer level via dungeons effectively.

You think you are stopping the boosters and super sweats in their tracks, but you are mistaken. The sweats will just sweat to 60 anyway they can.

You are hurting the average gamer who just likes running dungeons for a few hours here and there with friends when they want a break from solo questing. Actual social gameplay is being punished here and it’s sad.

Link with timestamp (1 min 29 sec) to Ion's quote.

One of the tenets of Classic WoW is none of the cross-server realms and different [server] sharding options that we have available to us today. There’s a lot of desire on part of the community that this is something that they don’t want.

-- J. Allen Brack, PC Gamer

When we have Kazzak and Azuregos, there needs to only be one Kazzak ever. If the entire server wants to kill each other and fight over it for five hours, that’s what they should do. The answer can never be “Oh we’ll just have a second Kazzak.”. If we do that, its not Classic.

-- Ion Hazzikostas

To be clear, we don't view layering as an improvement to the Classic experience.

-- Ion Hazzikostas, Forbes interview

For WoW Classic, we didn’t feel like [sharding] was a great solution for population management due to how antithetical it is to the idea of a single shared world.

-- Blizzard article

There are countless other quotes that all say the same thing: Sharding and layering don't belong in Classic WoW because they destroy any sense of community and a cohesive world, and they break unique elements of the game like world bosses.

I'll only add one comment: If you start with megaservers you can never go back to smaller realms. You can't put the genie back in the bottle. But if you start with smaller realms, you still have the option of merging them into a megaserver if they start to die. Hell, they could even charge people for transfers and make some extra money (or offset their costs) in the process.

dog said it was my turn to post anti-sharding propaganda

Like it or not, dungeons are a core tenet for Warcraft. Instanced content will always be the supreme environment for establishing community that has had lasting impact on the culture of the game. Gutting this to serve as a half-assed bandaid fix to mage/pally boosting (which has already been fixed) is quite frankly, short-sighted.

Don't worry, this time my work is for free.

At this point all we can do is laugh, cry and pray.

There’s been a lot of (understandable) dooming on holy paladin, with the math showing that our healing is just not up to par with other classes.

My fellow crusaders, I’m here to let you in on a secret: You don’t want to be overpowered in the beta, that puts a target on your classes head. See priest penance for a clear example. Being underpowered means there’s only one direction to go from here: Up. Balance changes are coming.

Now, knowing that holy paladins clearly have an abundance of power budget for the devs to play with, do we want them to just pump up the numbers of flash of light so that we can heal as efficiently as everyone else?

I’d rather them lean into the class fantasy of the warrior priest we’re meant to be, give me a reason to jump into the fray.

1. Holy Strike heals allies around me in melee range, or even gives a small absorb shield

Holy strike on its own is an incredibly boring and unimpactful ability. The Prot tree has a holy strike talent modifier for damage reduction, Ret has a holy strike talent modifier for more damage, the holy tree is missing this entirely.

1. Make consecration give a small aoe heal.

We already have a talent in the holy tree called Consecrated Ground, increasing holy damage taken by enemies in consecration. This is great for shockadins, but gives little reason for holy paladins to use it. Make that talent a choice node, shockadins choose the damage, healers choose the healing.

I’m not saying redesign the entire class to be a strictly melee healer, that’s not realistic at this point, and I respect the Forever devs intention to keep the classes overall play style familiar to how it ended up being played in 2004.

But there are small, self contained changes that can easily be made that will give holy paladins more meaningful reasons to jump into the action like their plate armor and battle hammers suggest they should.

These are just suggestions, the take away here is that holy paladins are in a position where we have an abundance of power budget for buffs to our healing, and I for one would love to see the devs get more creative then just “flash of light heals X% more.”

Edit: I’d like to add that this is quite literally what the original devs intended the class to be played like in 2003. The design was clear, the execution was flawed. So if you think it’s a retail idea, talk to the 2003 devs.

Previously on beta, if there was a pack of 3 mobs and you only tagged one while kiting away, the other 2 untagged mobs would eventually reset. This was not how mob leashing worked in classic.

Today they have updated it so if you pull that pack of 3 mobs and you only tagged one while kiting away, the other 2 untagged mobs WILL NOT RESET.

When i start casting I want to know some boys about to get CLAPPED. I want it to feel like I'm firing off a nuclear warhead toward some poor soul.

If our spec is destined to be ass, at least give us this one thing to work with. 200 hours in MS paint

This is a Pre-Culling of Stratholme Map I designed and had made sometime ago. It's my interpretation on what a Pre-Culling of Stratholme City Map might have looked like.

I took a few liberties with the region beyond Live Side. My reasoning is that there must have been a storage/warehouse part of the city that fed into the harbor. Additionally, there likely would have been a 'estate' or noble quarter that connected to the what is now called the 'Slaughterhouse.'

I used the Live Side and UD Side + lore knowledge about a Stratholme Harbor to design the map. Feel free to use it for any RPG adventures that you might have.

In Classic WoW all if the existing human kingdoms guard almost share the same look, they share the same Warcraft 3 Footman armor.

However in different games and expansions the some of the kingdoms have different aesthetic like what we saw in Cata Gilneas and BFA Kul'tiras or the humans of Stormwind who have very different style of armor.

Unlike the original devs, the forever dev have the time to slowly expand the world and make it feel rich, each region can look different and unique from the others as they can exapnd the humans of the eastern kingdoms identity.

Best example is what the Warcraft 3 Chronicles of the Second War costume campaign developers did with the humans kingdoms in their campaign.

Do you like to see something like this in Forever or you want things to stay simpler?

I can't wait to log in,
Hop on a griffin~~

Now I just need to find the two missing discs...