r/mildlyinfuriating • u/BiteInfamous • 9h ago
I'm slightly vexed Taxi driver wearing noise cancelling headphones while driving in the city
Look I’m PMSing so I’m admittedly in a very nit picky time of my life. But. Don’t love weaving in and out of traffic in a major city while the taxi driver has noice cancelling headphones on. The sound is loud enough I can hear whatever (moderately funny) comedy show he’s listening to in the backseat. This is ill advised, yes?
ETA thanks to everyone who taught me about transparent mode today :)
ETA2 : Okay, I’m the asshole, comments have shown me there’s lots that could be going on with the driver to make him need to use these and there’s way he could do so safely. Mea culpa. That’ll teach me to knee jerk react.
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u/fuckYOUswan 6h ago
90% of Ubers I am in the driver has earbuds in and is on a call the entire car ride, quietly whispering to the other person. My question is who are these people talking to for hours all day?
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u/bunniisa PURPLE 6h ago
my family members are also constantly on the phone 24/7 with assortments of people and it’s really exhausting i don’t know who they are calling
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u/CASSIROLE84 5h ago
Same with my mom, we had to set boundaries about her being in the phone at the dinner table or when we are outside with her.
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u/bunniisa PURPLE 5h ago
yep or they’re constantly calling me just to pass me around at the dinner table and if i don’t answer im a pos
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u/needtoredit 5h ago
Yeah and what are they talking about. Who has that much to say and even more importantly who wants to hear it?
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u/ImplementNo2626 5h ago
That’s what I’ve always thought, how do they have so much to say to the same people every single day 😭
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u/oimgoingin 4h ago
My coworker goes on speaker phone almost every day and talks to his wife in another language. Every day. The rest of the time he’s playing Indian dramas on speaker.
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u/Beor_The_Old 6h ago
Their family
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u/Far_King_Penguin 2h ago
Group calls. Like 10 of them in a discord. My Indian work maye says its a common thing back home and is prevalent in immigrants coz they miss their home and their native language
Seems perfectly reasonable to me but I don't like people using their phone while operating a car so if their eyes stay on the road im usually chill with it. Idk how people drive with an ear bud in though. I feel like I can't see without my ears
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u/XStonedCatX 5h ago
My mail carrier is on the phone all day, every day, and there's a few others who do the same. I always wonder who TF they're talking to all day.
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u/mandatorypanda9317 9h ago edited 7h ago
So now I gotta ask because I genuinely dont know, are deaf people not allowed to drive? I dont think ive ever thought about it
Edit: the answer is YES THEY CAN DRIVE (thank you for pointing out my dumbass use of the English language haha) I also looked up laws in my state about headphones and apparantly here you can only wear them over ONE ear lol
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u/Ixaire 9h ago edited 9h ago
Speaking only for my country, but they are. They can drive without any restriction, don't have to wear hearing aids of any sort and it's common knowledge that they sign behind the wheel. They are used to rely on their other senses more.
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u/powderjunkie11 8h ago
There must be a lot more deaf drivers than I thought…drivers message me through their hands all the time while driving . What does this one mean🖕🖕
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u/nikhkin 8h ago
Yes, deaf people can drive, but they're also fairly well adapted to navigating the world with reduced senses.
Similarly, a one-eyed person can drive but you wouldn't expect someone to drive around with one eye closed.
Actively removing your situational awareness is stupid.
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u/DannyDevitosComb 8h ago
One eyed driver here, I just have an endorsement on my license that's states I MUST have my mirrors (I mean everyone does but y'know)
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u/tun4c4ptor 8h ago
Nice, if I ever get pulled over for not having a mirror I'll say it's fine because I have both eyes. Checkmate, police.
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u/youngcuriousafraid 7h ago
In my state im pretty sure only the left side requires a sideview mirror funny enough
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u/Redlikeroses_23 5h ago
Ironically depends on your state. Like Texas where I came from you only needed two mirror if your vehicle was tinted and one of they had to be the drivers and passenger’s side mirror. If you weren’t tinted you technically just would need the drivers side one.
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u/framingXjake 8h ago
When I worked in fast food, I regularly had customers in my drive thru who were deaf. I would greet them over the speaker not knowing they were deaf and they would honk to let me know they had already paid through our app and were about to pull around to the window. Saved them the hassle of trying to communicate with someone who doesn't know ASL (me).
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u/creatyvechaos 8h ago
I was born deaf (underdeveloped eardrums) but could hear okayish by the time I was 7. In that time period I learned ASL, but never had to use it again after that. I can still vaguely "picture" the signs (quotes because aphantasia, it's more.....instinctually knowing I'm thinking of it?? Hard to explain) but I can't piece them together fluidly, and my other language learning also interfers with the structure and grammar of ASL. I currently have a deaf coworker, so I've been picking up on sign language again, but....It does make me wish it was a required course at least in middle school.
Whoever said "you'll never forget ASL because it's muscle memory" was not aware that muscle memory can atrophy through lack of use
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u/GroundMeet 9h ago
They are allowed, but some states require more/bigger mirrors to enhance their visibility. Aside from that they don’t treat deaf any differently than hearing unless you’re attempting to get a CDL
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u/caelynnsveneers 8h ago
I feel like deaf people probably are trained to use a lot more visual cues to drive safely. Idk maybe cuz I’m a scared driver I would want to be able to hear the roads.
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u/PolitelyHostile 9h ago
I guess in theory they might be better at getting by without hearing. And it could just be a bit of an exception because they don't have the option whereas the rest of us do.
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u/HereForTheBuffet This pen is red. 8h ago
I had a deaf Uber driver once. Had a little sign essentially saying “feel free to make phone calls or listen to your music as loud as you want”.
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u/meowxinfinity 9h ago
Definitely allowed to drive. I am deaf and just use visual the most. Sound isn’t necessary for driving, imo.
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u/Penguin_Arse 8h ago
They are allowed to drive, it's only a slightly bigger danger to drive without hearing, if you have the ability to hear you should use it.
However I always drive with so loud music that I can't hear shit anyway
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u/im_wudini 8h ago
in NJ, it's 100% legal to wear earbuds while driving. In both ears. Likely a holdover from when handsfree was more important.
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u/beefquinton 8h ago
yes. deaf people can drive. also yes, in my state as well, one ear can be occupied with an audio listening device (headphone or earbud).
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u/sukastyx 9h ago
They are allowed to drive but they generally have extra accessibility things to help them drive safely
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u/PaleAcanthaceae1175 9h ago
Some people really aren't going to like this comment but it's entirely possible the driver has the same condition my sister does: pain hyperacusis, where loud or even normal volume sounds can cause a range of symptoms including actual pain. Noise cancelling headphones do not fully deafen you and most of them have variable settings that allow you to reduce the pitch or frequency of incoming sounds so that they are quieter but still audible.
The smart move here would have been to ask the driver why they were wearing headphones and to get out of the vehicle if they were listening to music with them.
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u/BiteInfamous 8h ago
I actually wish I could pin this. Thanks for teaching me something new, I should know better by now than to knee jerk react —> judge —> post
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u/PaleAcanthaceae1175 6h ago
I agree with the other comment about the conditions being fairly unknown. Don't beat yourself up about it. It's still entirely possible the driver was being a careless moron but maybe not.
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u/accountforsurveymkt2 8h ago
Tbf it’s pretty unknown until you get it. I didnt know it existed until I got it
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u/Medium-Song-1802 5h ago
I was looking for this comment in this thread. Reddit posts are so filled with people wanting to rage and not looking for legit reasons.
For example, I don't have hyperacusis but I do have a bad sensitivity to sound. Whether it's prolonged or loud or chaotic... it chips away at me mentally. Wearing headphones or earbuds with transparency mode has improved my life so much in the last decade. I used to have to wear ear plugs in crowded locations or plane flights. Now, I can interact like a normal person and survive a day's interaction.
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u/Literatelady 8h ago
Is this is the right time to mention I am disappointed by my premium headphones lack of ability to block noise? On the subway I feel like the background noise is competing with my audiobook or music. However I don't blast music.
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u/mymotherthemountain 8h ago
Yes, I hate my Bose Quiet Comforts. The noise canceling blocks nothing.
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u/Eqmuraj 6h ago
Are they broken? I bought a pair of QC Ultras for a long international flight last year, and the difference between Quiet and immersion vs aware is massive.
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u/mymotherthemountain 6h ago
No idea, I can hear the difference between the modes, but none seem to actually block/cancel sound. I can hear keyboard typing in all modes. I feel like they block sound purely by the volume of the music.
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u/costinmatei98 4h ago
You are 100% doing something wrong / don't have them on your head properly.
I have had my Bose QC35 IIs and QC Ultras for quite a bit now and they are absolutely amazing at blocking out everything. To a point where my friend was shouting at me from my doorway and I was 5 meters away completely unaware.
Though it does work A LOT better when you are playing music / a podcast. Just having them on doesn't work that amazingly, but they still block out most repetitive sounds.
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u/raybreezer 5h ago
IDK, I literally put mine on without playing sound just to drown out noise sometimes. I would get them checked.
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u/Polamalu4Prezident 6h ago
Disagree. Just bought my fourth pair in ten years. Bose QuietComforts are incredible, and have only gotten better. 🤷♂️
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u/TheMellerYeller 8h ago
They fell off, the new ones are kinda mid but the old ones are still crazy good at blocking out and cancelling noise
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u/ItStinksItStinksItSt 7h ago
Noise cancelling works by recording the outside world, then flipping the audio 180 deg out of phase and playing it back which results in destructive cancellation with the original sound. Because this processing happens in real time, there is some latency, and so it really only works well for very stable, regular sounds like an air conditioner or something. That's why it sucks at things like cancelling voices, loud clanging, or any other unpredictable, irregular noises.
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u/yrthegood1staken 7h ago
For those learning from this comment, this is specifically about "active" noise canceling. Passive noise canceling happens through insulation and sound-dampening materials (like your traditional ear plugs or workshop earmuffs).
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u/Unique_Persimmon9454 8h ago
I have the Sony MX5’s and they’re so good
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u/Morlanticator 7h ago
I'm still rocking my mx3 from many years ago. They usually stay at home with my electric drumset but are super crucial when I need silence out in the world.
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u/Michael_braham 8h ago
AirPod max has impressive noise canceling can’t even hear my kid screaming when I’m wearing them
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u/JGards57 6h ago
In many places, it’s illegal to drive with headphones in or on both ears at the same time.
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u/SaltInternational538 4h ago
How is this any different from someone blasting 120 db rom their stereo?
Both cannot hear anything outside.
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u/Maximum_Employer5580 9h ago
in most places, the cops will pull you over for wearing headphones while driving, as you can't hear the traffic sounds that you need to hear while driving. That's basically distracted driving
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u/shopmoondustmarket 9h ago
What if you’re deaf? Will taking your headphones off help?
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u/sarkzar 9h ago
You aren't getting extra stimuli if you're deaf. You're navigating the world as you usually do, and studies show deaf people are able to compensate well enough by paying attention visually. But yeah, I don't see how this is much different than blasting music.
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u/Tired-CottonCandy 9h ago
If that was true, playing loud music in your car while driving would be a crime too. Its effectually the same thing as wearing headphones.
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u/quim_do_mato 9h ago
"so let me post on Reddit, instead of speaking up to the driver to mitigate this life threatening behavior"
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u/TuringTestedd 9h ago
How would the driver hear? Hes got noise cancelling headphones on!
/s
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u/Philzeey 8h ago
I honestly believe most people on Reddit who give other people shit for not saying something wouldn’t say something themselves.
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u/writingwhilesad 9h ago
How can he speak up to the driver? Can you not read? He’s wearing noise cancelling headphones.
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u/MagicGrit 8h ago
Aside from what everyone else is saying, why do you think those two things are mutually exclusive?
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u/twotwotwototoulouse 9h ago
I just know you’re a man, because a woman would immediately understand why that could turn very dangerous very quickly.
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u/Illustrious-Youth556 9h ago
Shes a woman thats big man. She doesnt want to start no shit.
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u/EnjoyerOfMX5 9h ago
Men don't think about this very much, but it's real. Probably not worth the miniscule chance of being attacked.
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u/Specter119 9h ago
...deaf people are allowed to drive by the way. Are you implying the inability to hear while driving is life threatening?
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u/gigayoink 8h ago
We don't have to choose between "hearing has absolutely zero impact on driver safety" and "hearing is so important we should ban everyone who can't from the road".
We're allowed to ask every individual to be as safe as they're reasonably able to be, like the several states that allow deaf drivers while banning headphones.
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u/VStarlingBooks 9h ago
All 50 states allow deaf drivers.
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u/tx645 8h ago
Coincidentally, in a lot of state its illegal to drive with headphones covering both ears. Or even one
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u/SuspiciousCranberry6 8h ago
Several states have laws not allowing headphones while driving or restricting their use to one ear. Being deaf isn't the same as purposefully obstructing your ability to hear.
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u/-UncreativeRedditor- 9h ago
I highly doubt the driver would take it off just because OP asked.
Also, I think “life threatening” is a big stretch. You know deaf people drive, right?
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u/Plushies-Sell-Trade 6h ago
Can deaf people not drive?
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u/DueStatistician3704 6h ago
I am deaf and I drive very well.
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u/StormedTempest 6h ago
But how do you tell when you have a red light?
And because this is reddit and I have to put it or I'll have people who don't understand I'm not being earnest, /s
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u/sarkzar 9h ago
Assuming OP is located in DC/MD/VA it's illegal to wear earbuds or headphones that cover both ears. I see truckers wear their headsets all the time though so idk what cops are actually pulling people over for this.
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u/NWGirl2002 8h ago
It's illegal to wear earbuds/headphones that cover both ears in quite a few states
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u/Athlete-Extreme 8h ago edited 7h ago
I once had a kid in HS tell me to never drink vodka redbulls cuz it will mess up your heart. He was already staying in a firehouse and was literally a firemen somehow, built like a brick shithouse so it explained the early bird status.
One day I saw him pull up to a red light next to me, with both earbuds in. And that always stuck with me
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u/BiteInfamous 8h ago
This is like my good friend who like, will not eat sugar or processed food or allow anything “toxic” in her home, but regularly does cocaine of questionable provenance.
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u/DaBootyScooty 7h ago
Cocaine? Is she nuts? Amphetamines are much more cost effective.
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u/unknown_pigeon 7h ago
My uncle unironically telling us that candies are poison while drinking his third glass of wine
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u/pumba350 6h ago
Why don't you ask him? You are the passenger right.? Also if you can hear what he's listening to it might be on transparent mode. Pms is not an excuse to pass judgement. Yes?
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u/Lardath 9h ago
As long as he's able to pay attention he's not really doing anything wrong. Deaf people arent forbidden from driving cars, and blasting lusic so loudly you cant hear anything else isnt either.
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u/coonjaku 9h ago
Hot take: its not nearly as dangerous as all these reddit chuds make it out to be.
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u/Thoughts-AndPrayers 9h ago
Serious question Deaf people can drive, is there that much of a difference with this?
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u/Sabertooth_Mauler 9h ago
Maybe not much but another source of distractions is worse than not hearing anything at all (when it Comes to safety)
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u/SignificantRun6039 9h ago
Idk, but I've tried listening to headphones while riding a bike once. I'll never do that again. So, shout out to all the deaf drivers out there.
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u/caelynnsveneers 8h ago
Tried jogging once with both AirPods on in a busy city. Immediately took one out, never again and not even transparency mode.
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u/BlueberryPenguin 9h ago
I’m deaf and I drive professionally. I just use my horn for echo location like a bat!
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u/andy966 9h ago
You do know that most of these headphones have feature called Listening mode or pass through where they can actually hear outside noise. I love how you assume he has the NC feature on. Although I would say it’s a bit rude to have the headphones on while rideshare driving but that is a different personality issue.
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u/Critical_Code9588 9h ago
Sorry but did you read the post? OP said they can hear what he’s listening to bc the volume is loud af.
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u/PretentiousMan 9h ago
The cancellation is optional, you can switch them to spatial so you can hear your surroundings.
I have these headphones
Actually talking to the driver could’ve prevented this post and saved people’s time. Smh
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u/IcedHemp77 9h ago
Would you refuse a deaf taxi driver? Because deaf people can get a drivers license
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u/TraditionalMap6872 8h ago
So the way I see it (and I could be wrong) there's a difference between someone who is hard of hearing, who can drive. They're aware they are hare of hearing and probably are hopefully very aware.
Listening to NC headphones is a distration, due to the fact that you're listening to something that's not on the road and can be distracted with what's going on.
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u/Galimbro 9h ago
Its illegal to drive with headphones on in many states.
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u/10000Didgeridoos 8h ago
Which makes no sense when you think about it, because driving around with a cranked stereo is no different. Or driving in a quiet luxury car with a stereo at a normal volume.
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u/blue60007 8h ago
Honestly it's not even luxury cars any more. My current and last couple of cars were pretty average (but newer) and were very quiet.
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u/International_Ear768 8h ago
It’s massively different and the fact you even said this is absolutely fucking moronic
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u/K-J-K-R 8h ago
There’s only 8 states where it’s illegal to drive with headphones, and another 6 where it’s limited. Far more states allow it than prohibit it.
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u/Galimbro 8h ago
True, but those 8 states account for more than half of the US population. I think thats worth mentioning.
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u/williamlgdr 7h ago
You can broaden your way of thinking beyond your American states and realize that it is illegal in many countries around the world.
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u/ElCiclope1 8h ago
I have a disability that's about as debilitating as being deaf. I learned to drive with it and have a lot of habits I taught myself.
I think there is a pretty massive difference between driving wirh something you've dealt wirh 24/7 your entire existence and willfully disabling one of your senses while driving lol
Thank you, though, for comparing this dipshit to someone with an actual disability. Real nice, bud.
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u/WeinerTouchie 7h ago
And you know this guy doesn't have a disability either?
And yes, comparing noise cancelling headphones, something that literally cancels as much outside noise as possible, is as close as people with full hearing will get in their daily lives to deafness.
It's pretty common sense to make that comparispn, but you can take it even further. Put in some industrial foam earplugs and shooting ear muffs.
Congratulations, you are now experiencing deafness.
"But how dare you compare that to a disability!!!!".
Stop being so soft. It's embarrassing. People have made observations like this since the dawn of man to explain and show symptoms of disabilities.
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u/Dangerous_Seaweed601 9h ago
Prevents inane chatter with passengers..
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u/PM_your_Nopales 9h ago
This would be my dream as a passenger, there's no expectation to talk or anything. We can both just sit in silence and enjoy the ride
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u/Renard_Fou 9h ago
Highkey I would go mad trying to drive deaf, I rely on sound a lot
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u/HP1892 4h ago
I have these headphones. The noise cancelling is ok. Apparently one of the best in class. You can turn ambient sound on, which is what he may.. Who knows
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u/Tzukiyomi 4h ago
That's what I was going to say, he could easily be hearing the traffic sounds just fine. I have earbuds that do this.
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u/Plastic-Mess5760 8h ago
We do not know why they wear headphones and what effects it has. I would ask the driver if they can drive safely with it on.
If I can sit here and imagine all the reasons why someone would wear headphones include:
- Transparency mode is on, so all can be heard. Not every headphone is noise canceling only.
- They need it for some reason: covers an ear injury, reduce noise that they are sensitive to, being able to play music for guests that they don’t want to hear, or to hear something that doesn’t bother guests (some guests can select quiet ride, and if driver needs some noise, then this headphone makes sense)
Obviously, they can abuse this and actually just noise canceling only and jamming music like crazy. If that’s against the law, then bring that up. If that’s not against the law and they can drive safely, then I don’t see issue.
I don’t assume malicious intent from service workers. This is their livelihood and they are not messing around with it
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u/Achmiel 5h ago
Wait until the OP learns that deaf people can get a drivers license
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u/FortunateCherry 9h ago
These look to be Sony XM series headphones, maybe XM5, these have a mode that are the opposite of ANC where it lets more sound in deliberately called transparency as well as a feature that lowers headphone volume when people speak. I used these for awhile, ironically, at work.
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u/fairydust_tm 7h ago
Not to mention it’s illegal in many states (if not all) to wear headphones in/over both ears when driving a car unless you need them for disability accommodation. This could fit that scenario because there’s no way of knowing but there are many people who drive with both headphones in despite not needing to and the legal implications
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u/Ticalthepimp 8h ago
I wish I has noise cancelling headphones for this comment.
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u/slaw_daddy 6h ago
I just feel like I’m losing my mind.
You're aware that deaf people drive, right? What do you need to hear while driving? A car horn? (which is loud enough that you'll probably easily hear it anyway). What else could you possibly need to hear? Cars are literally built to cancel as much external noise as possible. People listen to music in their cars loud enough to drown out most surrounding noise.
What is the difference here, other than unregulated emotional reactions?
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u/trombing 7h ago
Is there evidence that deaf drivers are materially worse than those who can hear fine?
So many other reasons to criticise someone's driving. Not using their ears enough is right down the bottom for me.
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u/Goblinweb 4h ago
Deaf drivers might drive more carefully in general.
People with hearing might drive worse when they block one of their senses. It can make a huge difference in specific situations that you don't know that you'll be in.
People get in bad situations just by blocking their hearing when they are walking.
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u/goatoffering 6h ago
Maybe he wants to avoid hearing damage in case he has to shoot someone.
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u/drshaggy313 6h ago
They look like Sony x5 they can cancel noise, but they can also heighten the sounds around him.
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u/MastrChang 4h ago
They have Ambient Sound mode and you can hear everything just fine. Like the headphones aren’t even there.
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u/ThrawnGetsBuckets 8h ago
Maybe it varies by state but this is definitely illegal where I live.
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u/backbiter0723 9h ago
I mean, people do crap like this all the time. This doesn't bother me even 5% as much as the people driving around with movies on their phones or texting and shit. I'd argue that just talking to a passenger in the car is more dangerous than this.
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u/BlueFotherMucker 9h ago
I get it, it's unsafe and illegal, but there are deaf people who drive just fine.
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u/13Bravo84 9h ago
I am married to a Colombian national. Wearing noise cancellation headphones is a must.
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u/GenericUsername19892 9h ago
Full cancel or leveling? I use mine in construction or loud areas with the one switch pressed, it makes it so no noises are above the volume settings. Also the best shot ever for migraines, makes the loud as world a whisper.
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u/GeebGeeb 7h ago
Everyone saying deaf people drive too and that’s fine.
If you aren’t deaf though, you can get ticketed for distracted driving or unsafe driving, you could also be liable in a wreck if you were wearing them.
Just a thought.
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u/hipster_unleashed 6h ago
These comments are WILD. I would be mad too if my driver had headphones on. So many headphone apologists here 🤭
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u/LastBossTV 9h ago
Emergency vehicles have loud audible sirens for a reason. Reasons lost on this guy.
Yes, emergency vehicles have visual indicators too, but you're not going to see those lights before you'd have otherwise heard them if not wearing noise cancelling headphones.
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u/GStellar87 8h ago
Legitimately believe there should be a rule banning posts about taking pictures of people in public without their consent at this point
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u/Wubbalubbadabdabb 9h ago
He could be blasting the radio and not be able to hear. What would you prefer? Its actually refreshing to have an Uber driver that doesn't want to talk the whole time.
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u/souperred 9h ago
It is illegal (where I am) and crazy dangerous to have both ears covered while driving.
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u/NittanyScout 9h ago
Deaf people are allowed to drive, no?
Are you using your hearing to change lanes??
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u/JacobAndor 9h ago
Those are XM6s, $500 headphones with next level noise cancelling, OR a great transparency mode. Yes it looks crazy that he's wearing them while driving, but I know some people that wear them in transparency because it helps boost sounds they may not hear without them as they have critical hearing loss.