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u/Hour_Pause6497 6h ago
Even if they had an open relationship getting railed by her son's friend was just brutal. And then telling the world about it. No self respecting man would have stayed after that.
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u/talonflame_em 5h ago
Yep, itâs definitely gross. Can you imagine a male celebrity bragging about sleeping with his daughterâs friend? The action itself is terrible and selfish, but to then tell the world about it adds another layer of crazy
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u/D-redditAvenger 5h ago
Yeah even Hulk Hogan was smart enough to act embarrassed.
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u/hallucinationthought 6h ago
He could've had any woman. And he literally chose the only one that doesn't appreciate him.
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u/DL_Omega 6h ago
think the saddest video ive seen a glimpse of their relationship is the one where she starts recording him and he just starts talking about boundaries and how he doesn't appreciate being on camera. he just seemed so defeated.
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u/Disastrous_Cold3705 5h ago
In the car. Yeah. She wants clout more than a loving relationship. And she still has supporters. Crazy.
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u/tanstaafl90 5h ago
Unfortunately for him, she's also signed a bunch of the paperwork for his various businesses. He stands to lose much more than just his reputation.
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u/Level1Roshan 4h ago
He could lose 90% of what he has and still be fine. This shouldn't be a concern. Oh no I lost 450m and now only have 50m, how will I live?!
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u/Disastrous_Cold3705 4h ago
Compounding and royalties.
Plus itâs not like he can live in west Philadelphia anymore. Hes to famous.
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u/sebrebc 2h ago
He's still Will Smith, he still has many years ahead of him. He could ditch her, lose 90% of his fortune, go on an "apology tour", and be back in big movies the next day to rebuild his empire. He's not an over the hill banker, he was one of the most bankable stars in Hollywood and many actors have come back from much worse.
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u/Disastrous_Cold3705 2h ago edited 1h ago
Yeah I love a good come back sorry as much as the next guy.
But I mean. I havenât seen him in anything that good post Chris rock. He has definitely lost his A list status, like a lot of people do after a controversy.
I hope he lands on his feet but with hollyweird doing weird shit he may just stick to smaller independent projects for now. Directing/producing and not in front of the camera.
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u/Qweerz 4h ago
The video the person is talking about isnât in a car, I think theyâre standing in a hallway in their house.
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u/PantherThing 5h ago
And then is gaslit that he's the one making outrageous demands, and 'doesnt want to work on the relationship'
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u/jjcrayfish 3h ago
Then ruined his reputation on the biggest night of his career by slapping a fellow actor in the face on a public stage for the world to see all for a harmless joke toward his wife who was embarrassed by his dumb action.
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u/Numeno230n 4h ago
He says in that video that he keeps his personal life and social media presence completely separate, which is 100% fair. Honestly most people burn out and fail in the entertainment business because they can't keep up barriers.
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u/curvyErika 6h ago
She appreciates him being a weak ass cuckold
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u/GimmeSomeSugar 2h ago
I'm convinced we're all being subjected to a public humiliation kink. But without our consent.
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u/Neatojuancheeto 24m ago
Its kinda fucked up we clown him instead of saying hes in a horribly abusive relationship.
Its some men can't be abused shit.
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u/NinetooNine 6h ago
I know it's sad. It's like life is just slapping him in the face.
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u/BicycleNo1169 4h ago
I mean, in that context isnât it kinda sad everyone clowns him instead of having some compassion for a dude thatâs clearly in an abusive relationship?
If it were a woman being manipulated in a relationship and we could all see it, I feel like weâd be saying âGirl, nooo!â But the response to Will Smith is literally âyouâre weakâ âyouâre patheticâ âyouâre a cuckâ.
I mean, in the name of equality, shouldnât we give him the same grace that heâs mentally manipulated into a situation where he doesnât perhaps comprehend heâs in an abusive relationship? If it were a woman, we would want to offer a ripcord and a way out. But it seems if itâs a man âgood, fuck you. You are not a âself-respectingâ man.â
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u/JackAsofAllTrades 5h ago
There is a type of personality that seeks out this kind of abuse.
Will Smith has been through some shit. Probably spent a good amount of his childhood under the care of someone who made him feel like nothing.
Without a strong will and deep introspection, this type of person will inevitably be attracted to abuse.
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u/SteveClimbFish3rd 6h ago
Probably for a reason
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u/hallucinationthought 6h ago
Because he was a millionaire before turning 21 maybe
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u/Swimming_in_money 6h ago
i mean, i have a friend irl who is a little bit like him - he had many stories with different girls before his current girlfriend, but they pretty much all finished with him betraying or leaving the girl. Until his current girlfriend, who is kinda possessive and jealous: they have been together for years now
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u/tahtahme 5h ago
Was uour friend an overly cocky temperamental cheater? If not, your friend is nothing like him. According to Wills own rendition of how his early relationships went.
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u/plaxitone 5h ago
Yes?
he had many stories with different girls before his current girlfriend, but they pretty much all finished with him betraying or leaving the girl.
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u/Swimming_in_money 5h ago
Yes, a bit yes, he betrayed multiple of his ex-girlfriends.
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u/PantherThing 5h ago
I think in the back of his mind he's like "Everyone else caters to my every whim. But she wont. She's the only one who knows I'm an imposter, so she's the only one who really gets me"
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u/tahtahme 5h ago
He admitted in his memoir to being a cheating nightmare and driving his kids away. Idk why yall infantile Will. He dug this grave yall act like Jada put him in...
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u/LectureOrganic1250 6h ago
I'm sorry but he should NEVER be able to shake off this reputation until he actually shakes HER from his life. His kids are grown so i see no reason to stay at this point. Even if they weren't grown, he should leave. Kids need to be shown what a person should do when treated incorrectly. That "entanglement" should never have been normalized. It was...and then we have kids who grow up and go to award shows with houses on their heads.
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u/fillerupbruther 6h ago
She probably has dirt on him
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u/SB_90s 5h ago
Nah he's just incredibly insecure and is desperate to portray a perfect life. Honestly he probably has never convinced himself that Jada loved him more than she loved Tupac.
The guy also played the good guy on and off camera who everyone got along with and loved for his entire career up until the slap, and tbf he was on top of the world in the mid 2000s or so. Now he's arguably rock bottom since he became A-list, and probably still trying to chase that high. Adding a divorce on top is probably too much for his pride to deal with so he's just trying to make the best of the shitty situation he's in and try to recover what he can, but it's coming across as sad.
To be clear though, I do think he needs to dump her yesterday. Everything ive seen from her has suggested she's a vile person who is probably incredibly manipulative and almost certainly sociopathic.
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u/hypercosm_dot_net 5h ago
They've both said in an interview that they're determined to make the marriage work. He said his previous marriage not working made him feel like a failure.
I don't know if she had the same experience. Though I don't know much about her, except that she's a C-grade actress and musician, who seems to also be a shitty person.
So Willie basically trapped himself for reasons that only he will ever understand.
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u/Mushu_Pork 4h ago
Staying together for the failure... er, I mean family.
He's got some weird ego/determinism thing going on.
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u/irespondwithmyface 6h ago
What possible dirt? He's gay? No one would give one shit. The most common reaction would be "yeah that makes sense. Anyway, who wants Chilli's?" Likewise, why would she stay with him if it was actually something terrible or illegal? That makes no sense.
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u/Show_Me_Your_Cubes 5h ago
Scientology, Trump/epstein, Diddy, plenty of career ending options
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u/Itotallyrunoutofspac 5h ago
Not sure Trump/epstein/Diddy are as career ending as one might hope they'd be.
Trump got relelected, only one Epstein associate is prison and Trump let her got to min security. Same with Diddy.
A few rich CEOs lost their jobs but either don't need them or found others. And that's frankly something that the non-Epstein class has to deal with every time the Epstein class crash the economy.
At least in America it's sadly no longer a deal breaker. Maybe it never was.
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u/DolphinOrDonkey 5h ago
Dude. There are many gay leading men, who are hiding their sexuality, because it WILL affect their box office and sales.
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u/SheepSpace9 6h ago
He gives off compromised vibes. Maybe that slap on stage was ordered and he executed it.
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u/LectureOrganic1250 5h ago
oh it definitely was. Did you see her face? She didn't have to say a word. She just looked at him and he stopped laughing and knew her orders as if they were passed to him telepathically.
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u/valedictorian1847 6h ago
Wonât Smith
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u/Unusual_Compote4909 6h ago
Canât Smith
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u/Thanksforthehelpz 6h ago
Cuck smith
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u/Jake24601 6h ago
When did Will Smith forget heâs Will Fucking Smith and to tell this harpee to kick rocks.
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u/Brilliant_Tax_4009 6h ago
In the 90's he would have. It's sad to see how the not-so-fresh Prince has spoiled.
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u/Unluckyb33 5h ago
He already had a failed marriage with another woman, he doesnt want another one so he's holding onto this woman with a deathgrip. Its the only explanation that makes sense to me.
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u/0202_tihssitidder 5h ago
Nah. That aint it. Will used to fuck 100s of women.
This is mental illness on his part. He is lame af. It is most likely tied into him trying to act like other billionaires and country club life. It's all fake. It seems to have fucked him up.
He is so fucking lame.
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u/GreasyToken 5h ago
I think you're right.
Even as a little kid something felt off about him and I wager like you said he's just deeply inauthentic.
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u/HiiiTriiibe 5h ago
When she kept reminding him he wasn't Tupac and never will be
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u/Requiescat-In--Pace 5h ago
Which is crazy because Tupac wasn't the gangsta he portrayed himself to be and Will has experienced far more success and fame than Tupac ever did or possibly ever would if he hadn't been killed. Jada sucks so much more than Will (double entendre), he's wasting his life, but whatever... it's his life. Be miserable together.
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u/SquirrelFluffy 5h ago
What do you spend years being abused and controlled by a narcissistic type, and Jada is full on, it destroys your mental health.
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u/LostExile7555 5h ago
I've never once seen him work a forge. No tempering, annealing, or quenching either. The man is out here advertising how he "Will Smith" and never once does any metal working. The man is the biggest phoney in Hollywood.
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u/Ok_Yesterday_3585 5h ago
When did you ever assume that âWill Smithâ meant anything other than âabject cuckoldâ?
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u/symb015X 5h ago
Some of yâall too young to remember the fresh prince or the bad boyz, and canât really know what that kinda clout meant back in monoculture days
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u/Prudent-Marsupial-42 5h ago
He was always considered corny to be fair
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u/Extranocate 4h ago
He knew how to market himself as approachable to white grandmas. It was still kind of a big deal to have a black A-list movie star in the 90s.
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u/The-Black-Swordsmane 4h ago
Nah I get it now. I used to roll my eyes with him constantly pursuing her after what sheâs done, but I get it. Heâs trauma bonded. Sheâs so clearly a narcissist and I KNOW she love bombed the fuck out of him in the beginning. Made him feel and believe she was the love of his life. Clearly he canât heal or get over that. Then they got kids together so it makes it that much harder. Heâs trying to rekindle something that can never be re-lit. Itâs just sad cause she doesnât give a fuck about him. Just the attention and adoration he gives her. But a narc gotta get their supply! Tragic.
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u/Sensitive-Cover 4h ago
Also he was raised in a home with domestic violence. Because he's a man and men victims are often forgotten when there is talk about intimate partner violence and its many forms he doesnt realize he's repeated a pattern and he's the victim. The way women perpetrators do IPV is not often talked about so he probably doesnt realize. Edited: to be more clear.
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u/Practical-Big7550 1h ago
I think you hit the head of the nail. When you watch the infamous slap video, you will see Will laughing at the joke. He thought it was funny, but Jada does not find it funny. I can just imagine her giving him "the look" which made him feel like he needed to do something. Unfortunately the camera cuts away.
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u/BanhBao171 6h ago
I mean he seems to be ok or even like the public humiliation.
Both are fucked up and should have kept it privat.
However if he was normal he should have dumped her, but evidently he isnt normal.
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u/Helpful-Rain41 6h ago edited 6h ago
My theory is the boring one, if he isnât exactly asexual heâs kind of on that spectrum and it just doesnât bother him the same way as it would for those of us who care more about our sexual relationships. Heâs super rich, famous and used to be quite handsome. His behavior does not make too much sense unless like you say thereâs a kink or thereâs some absence of a something that most people have
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u/Caleth 4h ago edited 3h ago
Nah. Totally my take but it's not a kink exactly it's a couple of things.
He was famous and rich as fuck by the time he could legally drink. He had people all around him adoring him.
She did not. She wasn't that interested but he was she was hung up on 2Pac and IMO probably narcisistic. She didn't think clean straightlaced Will was good enough.
But he wanted her because she didn't want him. Then his star rose and she saw an opportunity she took it because if you were her or nearly anyone else you'd be a fool not to.
Now the dynamic is set she's distant withholding and he has to go big to get her respect and attention. He's constantly being belittled beaten down and denied inside one of his most intimate relationships and it's crushing him.
He's not ACE he famously has acknowledged that he fucked around behind her back. He's got his head screwed on sideways and stuck up his ass because he got rich and famous way way too young.
She's got whatever is going on with her going on and it's bad for him and maybe her and you're seeing 20 odd years of it festering manifest. He's too internally beaten down to accept leaving.
IMO he's acting like an abuse victim putting on a front to make people believe he's not as hurt and vulnerable as he is.
Yes he's crying into his piles of money so don't feel too bad for him, but he's got too much mental and financial investment to walk away.
It's not* that he's some ACE, ARO, kinky cuck lord. He's broken inside.
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u/Electrical_Two4632 6h ago
At the very least for his reputation he could have dumped her publicly and kept seeing her behind the scenes
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u/GasCute7027 6h ago
Will shouldâve never stood up for someone elseâs girl to Chris Rock.
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u/TypicalGoose2586 6h ago
âi wouldnât have done it if u actually gave me the love i deserve.â their gfs rly be brainwashing them into thinking they deserve to cheat
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u/Petavellex 6h ago
Bro got cheated on and somehow became the one asking for forgiveness đ
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u/Short_Switch_1807 6h ago
How she isn't seen as a groomer predator for sleeping with her son's friend is beyond me.
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u/TipTopBeeBop 6h ago
Looks familiar. Did he use to be somebody?
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u/Superman246o1 6h ago
Keep my rapper-turned-actor-turned-cuck's name out your fucking mouth!
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u/mr-raider2 6h ago
He was the guy we saw on the cover of a tape at the record store, when we were reaching behind for the Public Enemy or Ice T tape.
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u/domedirtyfatman 6h ago
Its crazy how will smith was one of the most respected individuals in entertainment and now has become a joke. All over a women who has 0 care for him. What a weird guy.
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u/WorldFickle 5h ago
Saddest thing in the world is loving someone, that doesn't love you anymore
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u/WayFamously 5h ago
Unrequited love is a different kind of heartbreak. You keep pouring into a cup that's already cracked
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u/RyanDoog123 6h ago
Her justifying it was so disgusting. Jayden's friend came to her with this mental health issues. She slept with him because "it had been so long since she felt good".
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u/Benromaniac 6h ago
Her 44yr old vagina over his 23yr old penis
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u/Suspicious_Brush4070 3h ago
I genuinely can't imagine being university-age and having one of my friends fuck my mom while she's married to my dad, when all I did was suggest that she have a chat with him about his mental problems. And then she defends her actions.
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u/Somethingpithy123 6h ago
Iâll never understand this relationship. Dude is rich af. Just leave. She must have all his dark secrets because wtf? This shit makes no sense.
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u/smileyfacedbob 6h ago
What military grade dirt does she have on him that he puts on a show with her?
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u/GlummyGloom 6h ago
I dunno. Will seems to live in Pacs shadow. Jada has told him shes still in love with Pac. My guess is Jada is extremely nice and supportive of Will when theyre alone, then seems to throw him under the bus in public.
Its classic narcissist behavior. Will is genuinely a nice guy, and she manipulates him, in my opinion. That slap was so out of character, and he only said something after she spoke to him.
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u/returntothenorth 6h ago
Video tells it all. He was laughing, he looked over and saw her scowl, then the incident happened. He totally did that because of her.
I get you need to protect your wife and family. But there is a time and a place. Slapping Chris rock on live tv was neither.
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u/Medium_Let143 6h ago
What would Tupac say if he were alive? Were they even as serious as she insists? Its possible she's just using a famous dead guy because he can't respond.
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u/GlummyGloom 6h ago
Its possible. Pac was never in a relationship that I remember, but was seeing Jada before he died. She was obsessed with him. She seems toxic as hell.
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u/rjaysenior 5h ago
Iâm not positive, but I always thought 2pac and Jada were close friends growing up as young teenagers, but she didnât see him like that and they were never a thing. Then he blew up as a rapper, got famous as the voice for the black community, then died. Then she started telling people she was in love with him.
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u/GlummyGloom 5h ago
That sounds believable to me. Wouldnt put it past her to fabricate a relationship that never happened between them. She gives me really bad vibes.
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u/iwilltalkaboutguns 5h ago
He hit it anytime he wanted but never wanted her as a girlfriend, that's pretty well documented by their contemporaries. Also he was engaged to someone else when he died... So yeah.
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u/IamHamed 5h ago
He was in a relationship with Kidada Jones when he was murdered.
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u/Zingshidu 6h ago
Imagine your girl is still lusting after some rapist thatâs been dead for 30 years who she didnât even date.
That sucks for Will but thatâs actually world class pathetic for her.
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u/Dremora-Stuff99 6h ago
She has to be blackmailing him w some serious shit
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u/Redshittt 6h ago
This ego won't let him leave. Hes a cuckboy now and he has to prove to himself he isnt by "winning" her back
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u/Infamous_Window8518 6h ago
She's standing there like a pole.
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u/BleDStream 6h ago
She does, at least, have her right arm around him.
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u/Game_Knight_DnD 6h ago
Literally the most famous cuckold on the planet.
Loved his older fun summer blockbuster films, but his legacy is now going to be this, he is the rich attractive famous cuck.
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u/Murky_Guarantee440 6h ago
Yeah and then he slapped Chris rock, I can't even watch his old movies that I liked, I loved fresh prince and tons of his movies but it's weird that I struggle to enjoy any of it now
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u/TurtleSandwich0 6h ago
I guess now we know why the Fresh Prince of Bel Air's father didn't love him. /s
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u/Biff_666 6h ago
Recently watched I robot and seeing him in his prime was a good experience. Itâs just hard to look past all the shit thatâs happened
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u/obscureforest 6h ago
Same.. it fucking sucks tbh. Crazy to me that he thought it would be a good idea, and still theres people cheering him on lol.
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u/Natural_Pear_1549 6h ago
Yeah, like he didn't do anything worth getting canceled over, but for decades he had successfully maintained the reputation as the cool, fun guy in the room. But I don't think I could ever picture him that way again. Maybe he can do more sad dramas now, I don't know.
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u/JamesLikesIt 5h ago
This isnât a real post right? PleaseâŚtell me this isnât real. WillâŚmy dudeâŚyou had the world in your hand man lol, what did this woman do to youÂ
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u/psychoslipknot 5h ago
I canât be convinced this is not a lavender marriage and he knows that if they get divorced, she gonna take half his money she would probably leave him broke on the curb
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u/Large-Sign-900 5h ago
But half of his money leaves him with half of a lot of money. He'd get by.
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u/aTaleForgotten 5h ago
At some point you just gotta ask yourself, if you'd rather have half the money and be happy
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u/Inspect-her-gaget 6h ago
Why do you think Will alowed her to treat him like that?
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u/Interesting-Bed-3003 6h ago
I personally think it's because he left his wife to be with her and pretends the kid from the song Just the Two of Us doesn't exist.
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u/Far_Silver 5h ago
Just like John Lennon left Cynthia for Yoko and stopped being a dad to his son Julian.
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u/Hot-Pepper6610 5h ago
Holy shit.. I never knew about Trey Smith. I always hear about jaden and willow.
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u/FreeSpeechIsDeadge 5h ago
Does he pretend Trey smith doesnât exist? Trey was featured in that music video, but so was Jada (who was pregnant with Jaden in the music video).
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u/Theplanwithaman1895 6h ago
I mean, they were separated at the time and had been living apart for 4 years
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u/leffertsave 5h ago
I read his book. He certainly leaves a lot out of the book, but what he leaves in shows heâs the hopeless romantic type that doesnât believe in divorce. He did it once already and doesnât want to do it again. I donât understand people like that but there a lot of people like that.
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u/Meandtheworld 6h ago
Like how she brought him on the table talk Facebook show to talk about her cheating on him.
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u/sonomamondo 6h ago
since the whole slap thing I haven't watched anything that he's in , and never will. Jada really is a toxic scary human
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u/External_Orange_1188 5h ago
I hate what happened to Will Smith. I remember he was one of the most likable and popular actors in the 90s and early 2000s. He had everything going for him.
I really hate that he has stayed with this woman and chose to worsen himself defending her. The Chris Rock slap was just the thing that made his reputation plummet.
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THE Fresh Prince, and Commander Dickbreath GI Jane. Blowing her son's friends and interviewing her cuck about it is such a move. What a narcissistic turd.
Her band is also a fucking joke.
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u/DontLook_Weirdo 6h ago
They deserve each other, truly.
Let's keep that chaos contained within themselves and their family.
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u/SneeKeeFahk 6h ago
She's only with him because Tupac died
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u/fishcatdogjaguar 6h ago edited 1h ago
I feel like this is what happens when your so tied up in being a âgood guyâ or letâs say the man your father never was etc, that you forget to actually have boundaries cos all you focus on is not making the same mistakes. I think a lot of people end up like this.
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u/Real-Experience-8396 6h ago
I listened to his autobiography on audible and it just made me hate her even more.
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u/Suspicious_Suspect88 5h ago
I think she is a manipulative covert narcissist, and will has been so beat down by her tricks, he can't imagine a world without her. He is basically addicted.
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u/saraseitor 5h ago
they say you can get used to little doses of arsenic and then slightly elevate the dosage. You may think this is unrelated to the post, but it's not, this is only a marginally less toxic situation
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u/espresso_martini__ 5h ago
I can't stand her and he's weak for not standing up for himself. Pathetic!
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u/jake9288888 3h ago
Its difficult to watch Will Smith movies now. Woulda been just fine if he left her
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