r/classicwow • u/Old_Yesterday332 • 2d ago
Forever Beta Feedback Blizzard please fix for launch. Exploit for levelling 1-30 in 2 hours. 1-60 in 5 hours.
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u/xirrjn 2d ago
this was used back in the day to level up guilds to level 25 and sell them
they fixed it in retail long ago
pretty sure if you report it they will fix it the same way they did before
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u/Shrewbswow 2d ago
I levelled a guild with this and got fat perks. Earned so much from guildies just playing the game
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u/munchieman21 2d ago
Glad we have a beta!
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u/wishbackjumpsta 2d ago
race to first 60 would be terrible.
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u/wienercat 2d ago
Race to first "anything" in mmos is always terrible. It's never interesting or exciting because it's just a bunch of people who have min-maxed the game to hell and back. There is almost never an upset and when it is, it's some technicality or someone got caught cheating.
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u/Ok_Benefit_9874 2d ago
I've seen enough, nerf paladins
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u/Touchd93 2d ago
10 point deduction from Everton
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u/Jkim1287 2d ago
Not sure if people will get this but this is great to see here. Spurs fan lol
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u/bobbis91 2d ago
I'm sorry for your loss(es)
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u/Sewly 2d ago
They'll lose again tonight. But worry not, there will be encouraging signs
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u/LewisDftw 2d ago
Better nerf Irelia
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u/squirleydan 2d ago
Now that's a reference I've not heard in a long time, long time.
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u/Legiterate 2d ago
Talent changed : champion of the light now decreases spell damage by 10/20/30 % of your intellect
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u/vlee89 2d ago
Dungeons nerfed another 25% due to this exploit.
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u/ANaturalNumber 2d ago
Stop being antisocial in dungeons. Instead do this...
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u/Nikbis 2d ago
Go outside of dungeons and touch grass!
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u/ZazzNazzman 2d ago
No matter what they do, on day 1 of the release there will be level 20s mysteriously appearing.
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u/staplepies 2d ago
There will be legitimate level 40s on day one (maybe high 30s) assuming you mean the first 24h. Speed runners are getting to 30 in the 12-14h range, and that's just what's publicly known.
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u/totkeks 2d ago
Is this solo or groups?
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u/staplepies 2d ago
Both. I don't know about duos but it looks like Ahmpy is going for 5-man and then there's a bunch of solo people, mostly hunters. It will be interesting to see what tech people find because the biggest tech recently on leveling was non-mages (particularly hunters) leveling in ZF all through the 40s, but I doubt that's viable anymore with the dungeon mob XP nerfs.
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u/Some-Lingonberry-211 2d ago
I mean it's not mysterious. Not sure about the record to 20 but I saw someone on the beta go 1-10 on a warrior in 80 minutes with no weird exploits. So 1-20 can't take more than a couple hours for the speed runner freaks.
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u/Jesta23 2d ago
I did 1 to 5 last night just to test how questing vs killing mobs went. Since the quest mobs will be fully camped at launch.
33 minutes questing (no competition)
38 minutes just killing mobs. I also went straight to level 3 enemies since I assumed the level 1-2 mobs are the initial quest mobs and they’d be getting tagged immediately.
Anyway 1-10 for me seems like it might be closer to 2 hours.
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u/keaganwill 2d ago
Genuine question as someone who only experienced wotlk classic launch.
Will druid questing zone be fully camped as well? I was figuring i would just go for Tauren Druid to bypass the starter zone blockade. But if not I guess I'll just do the route to get flight paths
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u/themoosh 2d ago
every starting zone will be packed at launch. they want you to experience the hype of a massive crowd at launch since it's one of the things people talk about fondly.
my personal experience on day 1 of the beta was that aside from the login issues, the gnome starting area was packed but totally playable.
just know when to skip a quest, don't wait around trying to click doodads faster than 6 other people, just go next and you'll be fine.
I will say that I switched to skyborne and suddenly it was way less crowded. Can't say if that'll be true on launch but I have a feeling it will be.
A ton of people will want to try forever with their existing sub and I would guess most of those people won't have bought skyborne yet.
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u/Feature_Minimum 2d ago
Level 20? Bro on day one that might be me! In classic 2019 launch, I was about about level 18 after 6 or 7 hours and capped it off with a DM run. I was pretty sweat, but I saw much crazier than that. There were people level 45 after a day.
Yeah they've slowed some of that down a bit now, but I think you're vastly underestimating speed runners. I think the first 60 will be there within the first week easily, and probably within the first 4 days.
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u/Cold_Midnight_3025 2d ago
lvl 20 on day one is nothing special, you just need skip the sleep on this day
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u/Unlucky_Photo_599 2d ago
Is this one of those things where it takes 20 hours to farm that many apples but it takes 2 hours to turn them into exp so you call it 1-30 in 2 hours instead of 22 hours?
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u/misterbigchad69 2d ago edited 2d ago
You can buy infinite apples for pennies, the quest reward vendor price is enough to keep you afloat, perhaps you'll need one or two helpers
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u/Grittenald 2d ago
Can also trade water -> apples at one of the farms which I think is cheaper if I'm not mistakened. Also a "quest" but gives no xp.
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u/Dapaaads 2d ago
No silly. They buy gold and overpay for someone else to buy the apples. These people don’t play the game
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u/Hairy_Yoghurt_145 2d ago
People are talking about automating this when it’s actually as simple as cheesing 100 stealth at the start of oblivion. Controller mode and something heavy.
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u/No_Basket3832 2d ago
Huh i'm surprised normally stuff like this is kept quiet so people can exploit it during the launch nice job OP
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u/Suspicious_Yam_1938 2d ago
Agrand posted these were fixed hours ago, and before this post. No need for this to be up.
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u/a404notfound 2d ago edited 2d ago
Something tells me anyone who tries this is gonna get banned
4,084,700xp/170=24,028 turn ins of 4 apples 24,028 x 4 x 26copper each = 2,498,912 copper or 249g89s12c
Edit: oops apples are 5 for 26c not pet so divide the cost by 5
Editedit: didnt realize it scaled with level disregard number of turn ins
I seriously doubt anyone will have that kind of money to make a serious attempt at this (for world first)
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u/_Vard_ 2d ago
Imagine some dev checkign to see this in hte first couple hours
"The average player has done 47 quest so far!"
"The Top player has done 24,033 quests31
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u/SaltyArchea 2d ago
It is exactly this way how one banker got caught skimming people. Bank decided to do a promotion and give a reward to the account with the highest transaction number. It had orders of magnitude more transactions than the next account. Basically bank employee was transferring pennies from random accounts to his.
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u/Affectionate-Alps527 2d ago
That could be the plot to a movie.... Something about Offices and Spaces...
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u/Green-Broccoli277 2d ago
The turn-in XP scales with level, so it's way less than that
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u/ddr19 2d ago
It's a bug that will get patched before launch..... no one's getting banned. That's why there's a beta to find stuff like this.
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u/Axlndo 2d ago
True but im sure theres plenty more exploits that people aren't sharing lol
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u/panlakes 2d ago
They don’t get banned either. Exploiting is how this stuff gets fixed and one or two people doing it doesn’t necessitate bans. They might get rid of ill gotten gains or ban repeat offenders but that’s it
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u/steena88 2d ago
and now the realization should hit you where the beta is for 1-30 content with a lot of stuff obscured/temporarily removed so it cant' be interacted with.
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u/misterbigchad69 2d ago edited 2d ago
Apples sell for 5c a piece (25c for 5, so 20c per turn in) and the vendor price of a Thunder Applejack (1 per turn in) is 12c, so you only lose 8c per turn in.
Xp also appears to scale up by 10 with each level, if this continues linearly as it seems to then by level 30 you're getting 260xp per 8 copper and by 54 you're getting 500xp per 8 copper. Given that the vast majority of your leveling journey takes place past level 40 lets say the average rate will be like 400 xp, so the total net cost will be a bit over 80000 copper (10000 turn ins @ 400 xp avg) aka 8 gold, I couldn't be bothered to double check this so could be wrong but it's definitely nowhere near 250g required.
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u/Thunderjazz 2d ago
xp that you get goes up every time you level. Also you get 90% of your gold back selling the juice you get. You dont know what you are talking about
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u/modnar1212 2d ago
Thats not true, because the quest scales with level. You get more xp, the higher the level
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u/MarloSimp 2d ago
Uh okay lol. Imagine clicking like that for 5 hours. Don’t understand why people play classic if they hate levelling that much.
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u/Henk011235 2d ago
OSRS players call that a casual afternoon😅
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u/viotix90 2d ago
Riveting gameplay, even.
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u/SayonaraBakaChan 2d ago
nono osrs player would complain about doing this, do it for 2 weeks, then go onto a reskinned activity like this and complain about doing that
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u/Seeryous2020 2d ago
NO NO NO. OSRS players would not complain about doing this until they got 99, then become crusaders when OSRS makes an easier more efficient way to level the skill to 99 saying that they had to do it the hard way so no one deserves an easier more efficient way to do it because of the time they spent doing it their way.
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u/OfficeDrone-B28XY 2d ago
Bet if this guy aggro’d two squirrels and then started crafting something between turn-ins he could get it done in 3.5 hours instead.
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u/idleproc 2d ago
Was about to say I'm doing the same thing for 90 hours currently, and this is just one of the grinds :D Had worse.
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u/Keaneo315 2d ago
Were a different breed. I've always found it strange that in OSRS efficiency is king, we take pride in the xp/hr. While WoW players call you a toxic sweat if you want to do anything with any sort of efficiency.
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u/Nelcyon 2d ago
image maxing anything in OSRS in 5 hours start to finish
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u/MuckaMucka1337 2d ago
The crazy part about OSRS is that you’re only half way to 99 when you get to 92
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u/LiquidBionix 2d ago edited 2d ago
I was gonna say, I've casually chinned for longer than this on a lazy Sunday, this shit would be so free
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u/orsikbattlehammer 2d ago
This is hilarious to read after spending literal hundreds of hours doing pretty much exactly this in OSRS on totally normal and expected gameplay
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u/Some-Lingonberry-211 2d ago edited 2d ago
That was my exact reaction lol
Old mage training arena had me doing far worse than this but for 40 hours instead of 5 😔
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u/Some-Lingonberry-211 2d ago
I've done significantly worse on runescape.
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u/Administrative-Owl54 2d ago
1 ticking literally anything is far worse than this haha OSRS will do this for some time off 😂
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u/GoodShark 2d ago
I could easily click that while watching a couple movies. Probably wouldn't be 5 hours, but I could do it in a day probably.
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u/YesGameNolife 2d ago
Lol people play cookie clickers and runescape for years. Also leveling ones is fun but doing same zone in after just leveled a char is boring so if it stays I would use it for alts. Why bother to level in same zones 2 or 3 times for days if I can just click 5 hours and done
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u/Drummcycle 2d ago
Because they enjoy the endgame, not the leveling process. Seems pretty obvious. I personally enjoy leveling, but it's not hard to understand why someone else wouldn't. Basic logic answers your question.
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u/MalakortheAshen 2d ago
You literally can profit of this so massively you can then start power farming everything at high levels before anyone else can
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u/Some1ToDisagreeWith 2d ago edited 2d ago
Leatrix Plus has an auto turn in feature. So you could just bind an interact key. So a little less button pressing.
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u/ScottALind 2d ago
People play classic for their own reasons. Leveling is just one part of the game. When a game has many parts….. there is going to be one liked less than others
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u/Hugh-Manatee 2d ago
I mean it’s a super common occurrence the WoW devs have commented on a bunch of times before. People will drain all fun and adventure from the game in order to achieve a reward. They will do whatever monotonous tedious grindy thing if it’s more efficient
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u/WendigoCrossing 2d ago
I like leveling but like 50% as much as it takes to level then get bored haha
Luckily this time around I'm all about the journey, I don't have any sense of urgency to get to cap so I am free to have fun without worrying about not being raid ready for the guild
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u/samjoe6969 2d ago
Silly silly take. Clicking this for 5 hours compared to 250 hours of leveling. Cmon
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u/Qavligil6541 2d ago
People will always look for reasons to skip playing the game they paid for i guess
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u/SockofBadKarma 2d ago
tbh it's pretty easy to set up an autoclick macro and not even do it yourself. I could theoretically set one up that would be undetectable by Blizzard's programs, go to work, and return home to a level 60.
Not that that matters. They'll clearly fix this, especially since someone was honorable enough to post beta footage.
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u/Capital-Equal5102 2d ago
Is probably do it just to do it. Not that i hate leveling. Just feels like I'm doing something wrong, and if this scratches that itch I'd take it.
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u/porn_sub_lurker 2d ago
They're min/maxers. They see something and they try to optimize it. They'll spend 3 hours farming mobs to give themselves an imperceptibly small advantage in a 10 second fight. That is the game to them.
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u/Fr0genY0zurt 2d ago
"hate leveling that much". Brother, it is a BETA TEST. This is literally the person doing it, sharing it. Holy shit, what an idiotic thing to say.
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u/Synchrotr0n 2d ago
Hypothetically, if this happened on live servers, would Blizzard reset the characters, or would they take a completely spineless approach and let the exploiters keep their characters?
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u/Retkicks 2d ago
They have said in the past that they cannot unlevel a character per say. It's more likely you would receive a suspension in line with how long it would take you to normally level. Perhaps a week or a month.
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u/cjh42689 2d ago
“Exploit early, exploit often” is a saying for a reason. No one gets punished for this most likely.
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u/TypicalxooT11 2d ago
Its insane how many ppl are convinced this isnt a thing.. and exploiting in wow will lead to perm banning or something.
Exploit Early Exploit often has been a thing for TWO DECADES. Theres a reason for that
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u/Zestyclose_Way_6607 2d ago
this wouldn't even be a punishment for alt accounts, instalevel, wait until account unlocked, profit
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u/Rough_Class8945 2d ago
Anyone asking why bother banning it: This is a prime botting/gold seller tool. I know they'll still be around, but we don't have to make it easy for them.
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u/altafitter 2d ago
Id probably do this to get every class to 25 and have a handful of legacy points for my main
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u/kpkeeley 2d ago
That's disgusting. What is this? Tell me where it is so I can avoid it.
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u/Rhoklaw 1d ago
Anyone stating leveling is boring as fuck should probably stop playing MMORPGs. This is equivalent to someone buying a book that hates reading.
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u/Hreny2 2d ago
have you tried reporting in game? there is this blue button, looks like a bug
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u/Electrical_Past9649 2d ago
What is this subreddit for to you people? Posting an image of "my first level 3 hunter pet! i never made it this far in 2019" and thats all? Make this shit public so it's fixed my god. Even when there are legitimate game breaking bugs you complain about people addressing them
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u/Mlst0r_Sm1leyf4ce 2d ago
Whre did he comlained about this post?? He was just asking if he also reported it ingame. This sub wtf
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u/LoreChief 2d ago
Yeah it's one of those situations where it's always good to remind people that they should -also- use the in game reporting feature, but don't be a dick about the fact that people post it here for better visibility.
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u/Romsia-Testament 2d ago
Great post. Hide now because apple vendors are coming to whoop your ass for ruining their business.
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u/DyrusforPresident 2d ago
Didnt Vanilla have a quest similar to this but it ended not giving exp after a certain point, think it was level 50
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u/bad_bad_data 2d ago
People could use Bijous as turn ins from 58-60. They were pretty cheap because mages were farming crocs 24/7.
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u/i_cant_not_even 2d ago
All this to not install an addon that auto does turn ins? Bro isn’t even efficient at this!
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u/BLFOURDE 2d ago
Its already fixed. Gives 0 xp.
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u/solventlessherbalist 2d ago
Shit lol I wanted to level another class quickly in beta so I could figure out which class I wanted to but now I can’t. Only got my second choice to 16 so far and idk if I’ll have time to really get them to 30 and actually test the class before launch. 🤦♂️🤷♂️
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u/benzuyen 2d ago
Curious did you submit using the report a bug feature or do you have enough information that you can?
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u/dudeguybroman 2d ago
This didn’t work on beta launch. It got busted during the last new build. It won’t stay for launch.
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u/LulzLookatTheseNoobs 2d ago
I don’t want to put a damper on the release but if there isn’t massive exploits found in the first few days I’d be surprised
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u/FixBlackLotusBlizz 2d ago
LMGD MMR coming in hot with the clutch b4 launch
if somethin like this is in the game I bet someone found another one
cant wait for launch lol
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u/gubigubi 2d ago
"Imagine clicking like this for 5 hours"
So they finally added Runescape to World of Warcraft.
Only 5 hours of clicking the same thing will be the fastest level 99 I've ever done.