r/PoursTea • u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire • 3h ago
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u/Mr_R0mpers Pinkie Finger Extended 3h ago
Immigrants are such fkn hard workers. Iâll never understand someone defending a billionaire.
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u/Adventurous_Wave_806 2h ago
Billionaires love immigrants. The more desperate for work, the more tenuous the connection to the country they're in, the lower the wage they can pay, the better.
Jeff B is a perfect example. Amazon functions by underpaying vulnerable workers and vendors who hire vulnerable workers.
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u/frostymugson 1h ago
Yeah, illegal immigration is a labor source a lot of people exploit. Itâs not a good thing and I donât know why people pretend it is
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u/Icy-Cauliflower5830 1h ago
How does he do that exactly? A company like Amazon doesnât have to file I9 forms?
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u/Skoodge42 3h ago
Income tax?
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u/want-some-stew-ob 3h ago
Also sales tax and property tax depending on the state.
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u/Shades1374 2h ago
Sales tax is regressive - a percentage cost on food means more to someone making 60k than someone making 1250k much less someone making 150000k.
Just sayin.
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 3h ago
Some actually do. They will get SSN that belongs to someone else. So they end up paying both FICA and income taxes but will never see the benefits of those FICA taxes. But they also pay a ton of sales tax, property taxes (directly or indirectly through rent), gas tax, and other excise and franchise taxes.
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u/M0ebius_1 2h ago
Even if you don't have an SSN you can apply for a Tax identification number and pay taxes
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u/Ok_Nefariousness9579 1h ago
Dude an illegal isnât going to have any of the below that you need to apply for I9.
List A Document (Proves both identity and work authorization):
U.S. Passport or U.S. Passport Card
Permanent Resident Card or Green Card (Form I-551)
Foreign passport with a temporary I-551 stamp or MRIV
Employment Authorization Document (EAD) with a photograph (Form I-7661
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u/Ravenluna798 2h ago
Dumb comment.
Illegal immigrants and people without work permits get ITTNs so they can be on American payrolls.
The IRS always gets their cut. You dont have to break the law here to pay taxes.
Republicans have had 1000 chances to establish Everify.
They haven't yet because they love cheap labor.
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u/Skoodge42 3h ago
That also requires them to steal identities...which is super illegal, immoral, and can really harm people's lives even if they aren't being purposely malicious.
There are stories about people getting laid off and not being able to get unemployment because of that behavior.
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u/strict_barnacle676 2h ago
I donât think theyâre stealing identities. Come on. If that was happening thatâs what the right would be screaming about.
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u/Skoodge42 2h ago
I was talking about the specific response saying they use other's SSNs...
And the right did complain about it. Hence why I saw 2 separate news stories about it happening at the start of this admin and during the elections.
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u/michaelh98 2h ago
Where the fork do people get this information? They don't have to steal identities to pay taxes. up until this forking administration, they could get an ITIN and pay federal taxes the way everyone else does
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u/Skoodge42 2h ago
I was responding to the specific claim of using SSN
And I HAVE seen at last 2 stories of people being denied unemployment because their SSN was being used by someone else.
Just because "they don't have to" doesn't mean they don't do it.
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u/Al_Tilly_the_Bum 2h ago
I am not endorsing it at all. But it does happen and they do end up paying more taxes because of it
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u/HappyGoLuckyBacon 19m ago
Its funny how the top 1% have billions in cash to fund political parties and rig elections but they dont have billions for taxes then say "i cant pay taxes its all un assets". Riiiight
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u/teachthisdognewtrick 2h ago
The language is wrong. The top 1% do not evade taxes, they avoid them, using the loopholes that elected officials are paid to write into the law. Tax evasion is illegal, tax avoidance is legal.
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u/Schrodingers-Femboy 34m ago
No no, you don't understand. The super genius philanthropist billionaires are the only reason that is stupid ignorant plebians are able to have jobs, so we HAVE to fork over our tax money to them! It's just their reward for being smart and rich! /s
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u/EatYellowSnus 2h ago
Undocumented immigrants also cost the taxpayer 185 billion. A year . Whatâs your point
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u/Round-Arugula7347 2h ago
No they donât đthey contribute about 96 billion in taxes. Iâd want to see those stats
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u/Environmental_Beat84 2h ago
The top 10 percent of U.S. income earners pay 70.5% of all federal individual income taxes, according to the latest finalized IRS data. [1]
To be considered in the top 10% of earners, an individual or household must make an adjusted gross income (AGI) of at least $187,608. [1]
Key Figures for the Top 10%
- Total Tax Paid: Collectively, this group pays $1.51 trillion in federal income taxes. [1]
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u/Realistic-Duty-3874 1h ago
This. They cost $185 billion a year and only pay about $30-50 billion in taxes for a net negative of over $100 billion a year.
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u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire 2h ago
Okay, strictly going with the figure you provided and for the sake of argument we'll say it's accurate that's a deficit of $85 billion. Meanwhile the top 1% EVADE paying $163 billion of taxes owed per year. That's not taxes that can be added, that is actual taxes that they should owe. Do you get the point now?
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u/oddball09 53m ago
Honestly, it is what it is and this argument is stupid but, do you use any deductions when you file your taxes? Because if you do, youâre just like those rich people.
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u/Icy-Cauliflower5830 2h ago
How exactly does that work? If theyâre undocumented, how do they pay taxes? Are they just voluntarily writing checks and sending them into the IRS?
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u/Im-Reddington 1h ago
I know that most people on asylum have a ssn and they can work and pay taxes with it. The IRS also issues ITIN to everyone including illegals. They also pay a lot if taxes through that. Having an income through these means that they will also have their social security and medicare deductions however will never receive the benefits they pay into.
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u/contractorskid 55m ago
Undocumented is not a very good name. It means anyone in the US without federal authorization, including people who came here with a work visa.and overstayed
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u/_DuckDorde 1h ago
Sales taxes, wage taxes, basically any tax that comes with interacting with society
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u/Icy-Cauliflower5830 1h ago
If theyâre paying âwage taxâ, they are âdocumentedâ. All employers in the US must fill out an I9 form to prove citizenship before hiring somebody. So billionaires are getting of paying sales tax and âany tax that comes with interacting with societyâ? I believe the meme is referring to income tax. Some illegals give false SS numbers so they donât have to pay taxes. If theyâre getting paid cash, theyâre not paying income tax.
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u/Alert_Routine_8873 1h ago
Hey donât ruin a good social justice meme with truth and facts. Youâre supposed to blindly hate
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u/Arcaddes 59m ago
The majority of immigrants that get into the US immediately file for asylum or citizenship. In doing so they can also apply for an EAD that allows them to work in the US but gain no substantial benefits.
Even if the asylum or citizenship falls through or takes years, the EAD still allows them to work here. So the idea of undocumented immigrants flooding in is a misnomer as most want to be documented to work real jobs, not under the table.
The more documentation they have that they are a functioning and beneficial part of US society works in their favor with USCIS. USCIS in this case usually holds off on accepting their paperwork on purpose to gain those sweet free benefits of labor taxation without giving anything in return.
If an immigrant is undocumented it usually means they are in the sex trade against their will, be it sold off to a US citizen as a forced wife promising citizenship, or a legit sex slave to pimps for the same deal.
Source; I worked VAWA cases at the USCIS, shit is so fucking common it makes normal folks sick and they stop doing it after a short period of time.
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u/Substantial-Cold6546 42m ago
Which means they are documented. Not the ones the meme is referring too
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u/Arcaddes 36m ago
The meme is just as misguided as Conservative drivel of the opposing caliber. Undocumented is not a status any immigrant wants to be illegal or not. Folk are taught more about immigration laws in Mexico and South America than Americans are, that is why there is so much misinformation.
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u/ddddooooook 1h ago
This isnât quite correct:
First, independent contractors and a few other types of work donât have I9 requirements.
Second, the I9 only establishes identity and permission to work - not citizenship. Noncitizens CAN legally work if they have work permits, including many undocumented immigrants and/or those in the citizenship or asylum process.
(And yes, some employers accept false documents or ignore the rules here, but this still results in taxes being paid usually)
Lastly, many undocumented immigrants can and do file income taxes through an ITIN - you donât need a SSN to file taxes.
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u/clickclackyisbacky 44m ago
"(And yes, some employers accept false documents or ignore the rules here, but this still results in taxes being paid usually)"
Any conversation about unpaid taxes is speculative. But the Congressional Budget Office estimates compliance is between 50-75% for Federal and payroll tax. And orginizations that push for legal status say an additional $40 billion in taxes would be paid. These estimates cut both ways, in my opinion. 50% of taxes being paid sounds good or bad depending on your politics.
It's funny that the OP also cuts both ways. Billionaires do dodge more tax in absolute terms, but immigrants dodge more taxes as a percent.
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u/Aggravating-Ad8087 29m ago
You must report any wage over $600 to the irs through 1099's. People are just illegally working without documents or under other peoples documents. This becomes an issue when they try to get documented. How do i know, i work in a tac place and see it almost everyday.
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u/LonelyReflection1717 1h ago
So they pay tax through spending another countrys money that they are gifted...remember to stretch and not pull a hamstring with those mental gymnasticsÂ
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u/Overall-Group-7347 1h ago
Wage taxes? You mean income tax that requires a social security number or a work visa in order for it to be taken out of your paycheck?
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u/Otherwise-Log9281 1h ago
And itâs a net loss because they cost the taxpayer $150B on the low end and upwards of $450B on the high end. So yeah, we would save money by deporting every one of them.
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u/Bumm-fluff 39m ago
Aka buying stuff.Â
Hey look everyone Immigration is great because they buy stuff.Â
Lol.Â
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u/Fitasfafter55 51m ago
Nope theyâre NOT paying fkg 1/3 of their income in INCOME TAXES like LEGAL immigrants and CITIZENS!
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u/trying3216 1m ago
People on vacation here from another country pay those too. They still have to go home when their vacation is over.
Meanwhile citizens are expected to pay income tax ON TOP OF THE OTHER TAXES while illegals mostly donât pay those.
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u/Good-Daddy1970 1h ago
I've always wondered this myself. Thanks for asking this question.
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u/phil1054 1h ago
Many people, including my cousin, got fake ids and ssns, the people who employ workings send money to the IRS for taxes. That money gets deposited regardless of the legal status of the employee. My cousin eventually did get citizenship, but she paid taxes and into Medicare for years while she was illegally in the US
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u/Overall-Group-7347 1h ago
"Fake IDs and ssns". So your cousin committed identity theft to pay taxes. Sure she did.
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u/Environmental_Ant268 27m ago
You're trying to engage in a reasonable discussion with an ideologically driven pawn, don't waste your time
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u/throwaway5675313123 2m ago
It does not work as this meme people keep repeating is a lie.
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u/Proper_Car6159 1h ago
They donât! Then they send their untaxed money back home to their country!
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u/Ballads321 1h ago
Everyone I always worked with claimed max dependents on their taxes tho, taking my their tax to near 0. They never filed at the end of the year so they never had to provide the dependents numbers.
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u/AwardMinute8052 2h ago
lol this is something to easily research
Too 1% of tax payers in the US pay roughly $825-850 billion a year in taxes. Even if they âevadeâ the $163 billion, they still contribute a lot more than anyone.
Illegal Immigrants do contribute tax dollars but are still a net draw on the US. They cost us around $150 billion annually (schooling, healthcare, and law enforcement) after accounting for tax revenue which is estimated to be closer to $31 billion. Even if your number is right they are still costing more than they contribute.
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u/OutlawedLogic 3h ago
Direct Government Service Costs
âą Public K-12 Education: Constitutes the largest single public cost, with estimates around $68 billion annually for children of undocumented immigrants.
Emergency Healthcare: Undocumented immigrants are barred from standard Medicaid, but federal law (EMTALA) requires emergency rooms to treat life-threatening conditions, and Emergency Medicaid reimburses hospitals for acute care and labor/delivery. Federal and state emergency medical expenditures total several billion dollars per year (with CBO estimates noting over $16 billion across a multi-year period).
State & Local Welfare Programs: While federal means-tested programs are restricted, roughly half the states offer limited, state-funded healthcare, nutrition, or assistance programs for specific groups (such as pregnant women or children) regardless of status. Overall estimates for total federal, state, and local expenditures vary widely by organization (e.g., conservative policy groups like FAIR estimate total annual federal/state costs in the tens of billions, while fiscal analyses debate net impacts).
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u/williamgman 2h ago
It's worked for decades in the US. They've convinced the poorest of people that "others" are the cause of their bad outcomes.
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u/strict_barnacle676 2h ago
The billionaires fu**ing love this conversation. Keep them all bantering and at odds as we rob them all blind and they all have to work until they die!!
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u/MadeToYell 2h ago
Cool it's still net loss, why do you think said billionaires support mass migration?
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u/Big_Gear9771 2h ago
If this is an issue the government is taking seriously, then why arenât they going after employers? Are you telling me we canât have a verification process that prevents someone not eligible to work from working? If the company is negligent in its verification then they should be heavily fined. If the process was nationwide and uniformed then why would we have an issue.
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u/Puzzleheaded-Bat-511 2h ago
Just out of curiosity, how would anyone know how much the top 1% evade in taxes?
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u/Different-Run339 2h ago
Can I be picky about the immigrants that I like at least? And Iâm not referring to race or anything like that so much as can I just support the ones that have similar values to mine? Iâd love to do that because I know billionaires donât have the same values that I do. đ€Ł
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u/Dry-Regret5444 2h ago
Letâs compare the overall economic impact between the 2 groups before we start complaining about who does whatâŠâŠ
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u/Lameduck_Humor 2h ago
Taxes are based on earnings not feelings. People who earn the most money pay the most taxes and itâs not debatable. Not sure why you are spreading propaganda and everyone is nodding along
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u/Important_Zombie_485 2h ago
Avoid=/=evade. Immigrants are not the problem,,I can agree with that, but they 163 billion ( a highly suspicious figure) would not really even help. That's like, 6 days of operating the federal government.
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u/HoneyParking6176 2h ago
so what's the plan? deporting the billionares with the undocumented immigrants then seize the billionares assets to make up the loss in taxes?
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u/Creepy-Instance-4430 1h ago
This might be true if it was legal to compensate undocumented immigrants. If youâve never heard of form i9 then youâd miss the facts.
Then of course the fact that billionaires who own businesses pay 7.65% for FICA âTAXâ. Corporate tax rates per state, FUTA & SUTA âTaxâ. Soooooo billionaires pay plenty of tax.
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u/RoadRunner8195 1h ago
Defending these illegal immigrants unironically helps the billionaires who exploit them.
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u/Standy25 1h ago
Tax evasion is a crime. If you mean they follow the tax code thatâs different. If you donât like the current tax code call your congressman
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u/Blazekill001 1h ago
the top 1% donât live off welfare, take jobs from residents and burn down churches
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u/Valkyr1987 1h ago
Neither do undocumented workers, but the 1% do everything in their power to eliminate jobs while getting government handouts
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u/Blazekill001 1h ago
the 1% do everything they can to eliminate jobs by switching to AI or replacing american workers with non-citizen workers
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u/Winter_Ad6187 1h ago
You're dreaming if you think illegal immigrants pay taxes or are any kind of net positive to the economy. Last I looked the bounding interval was $150B to $200B net negative...
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u/Solo_Tomassi 42m ago
Even if you argue that they increase gdp (technically true) the labor they take leads to gross levels of wage suppression in the fields they work. And over all they lower the gdp and real wage growth per capita.
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u/Reasonable-Lynx-3403 1h ago
If they are undocumented how are they paying taxes. Do they file taxes while being undocumented? do you simps even know what undocumented means?
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u/TheMuffler42069 1h ago
Literally itâs both and then some. Why canât it be both ? Which it clearly is.
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u/Lilli_Puff 1h ago
And politicans are allowing this because they use the same tax loopholes to avoid paying taxes as well.
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u/Smooth_Composer1879 1h ago
Exactly. We will kill our own company to feel better about not having immigrants.
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u/Annual_Link1821 1h ago
So by your own numbers we'll assume only half of undocumented workers pay taxes, if they paid 3k a year in taxes that would be 66,666,666 undocumented immigrants, so like what, 1/7th of our population? And we're pretending like that's not a problem?
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u/Solo_Tomassi 46m ago
The ammount of immigrants is 1/7. If you are calculating purely for illegals its more like 1/11 to 1/10.5
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u/xxpow3llxx 1h ago
I get the point of the post but mathematically there's no way. The bottom 50% income earners account for 3.3% of federal taxes. That comes out to 69.9 billion dollars. How is it possible illegal immigrants (a smaller population than that) pays 100 billion in taxes?
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u/EngageWithCaution 1h ago
Um. How many jobs do they provide? Also Iâm guessing they paid 100 billion in sales tax? And then the billionaires dodged 168 billion in income tax? We calculating how much they pay when they spend? Or on their assets like property taxes?
Idk. Iâm just⊠like⊠baffled.
I hate billionaires but people just say the dumbest shit.
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u/SirAccomplished2625 1h ago
Itâs amazing how so many of you donât not know what a ITIN and how most immigrants pay so much taxes with knowing theyâll never see any of those SS benefits
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u/Fortestingporpoises 1h ago
And those undocumented immigrants pay those taxes while not being eligible for most of the benefits and entitlements they pay for.
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u/Old-Owl-1187 1h ago
I care more about driving down wages.
If immigrants are willing to work for wages lower than what Americans will accept, they're harmful to our way of life.
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u/QuikPops2020 1h ago
Reform tax system! Close all the loopholes and no tax on the first $500k of income so about 98% of tax payers would pay no income tax. Note that President Trump has suggested eliminating income tax.
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u/Sentient_Protoplasm 55m ago
Evade Taxes = Illegal, Billionaires do not do this. Avoid Taxes = Legal, all Billionaires do this.
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u/Equivalent-One4139 51m ago
THIS! Don't they realise that what we need to do is send the billionaires to Switzerland and just flood the country with undocumented immigrants and then everything would be AMAZING!
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u/SubstantialKBB 50m ago
So get rid of them and save $100 Billion ok 2 for 1 special sounds good to me.
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u/ManagerCautious8113 49m ago
Thereâs no such thing as an undocumented immigrant. Meanwhile, the top 1% of earners pay roughly 40% of all federal income taxes. Cherry-picking revenue numbers to hide the massive net strain on local infrastructure is pure propaganda.
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u/turboninja3011 41m ago edited 27m ago
Top 1% pays 1.5T in taxes or almost 25% of all taxes collected.
If a country relies on a tiny minority of its people funding a quarter of all its expenses, and it s still not enough, such country should be ashamed of itself.
Btw they only earn 20% of total income, which goes down to 13% when transfers (public services such as medicare) are accounted for. They consume 8% of total consumption.
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u/No_Diver_4500 36m ago
You all have no idea whats going on lol "Immigrants don't pay taxes, or get medical care you maga idiot" "immigrants pay more taxes than anyone else" which one is it ?!
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u/SpecialistSort3348 21m ago
Schools are intentionally failing people. Only someone in complete ignorance can spew this crap.
Poor For evey $1.00 paid in taxes get $6.17 Rich For evey $1.00 paid in taxes get $0.11 Top Rich pay over 31% in taxes Poorest pay less than zero and get money back on taxes they did not pay
1% of bottom is more of a problem than 1% rich https://youtube.com/shorts/3Bmxi4bi7xs?is=EQOHxZx0s6ZOVBic
2021 The IRS's Statistics of Income division publishes annual data showing the share of taxes paid by taxpayers across ranges of Adjusted Gross Income (ACI). The newly released report covers Tax Year 2021 (for tax forms filed in 2022). The newest data reveals that the top 1 percent of earners, defined as those with incomes over $682,577, paid nearly 46 percent of all income taxes - marking the highest level in the available data.
The top 10% of earners bore responsibility for 76% of all income taxes paid, and the top 25% paid 89%of all income taxes. Altogether, the top 50% of filers earned 90% of all income and were responsible for 98% of all income taxes paid in 2021.
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u/kangorooz99 18m ago edited 14m ago
âSchools are failing people!â
Followed by a rant full of piss poor grammar and typos.
Canât make this shit up.
Also, you fucked up the most basic of math. Of course they pay most of the income taxes â they make most of the income. The question is what PERCENTAGE of their income do they pay vs. the middle class?
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u/Popular-Okra-5658 15m ago
Not trying to offend anyone. But how many of those illegal immigrates that ARE paying takes are creating jobs? Love them or hate them. The only billionaire in my town employs 1000âs of people by owning banks across half the country.
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u/MetalPaul 13m ago
Imagine what these âundocumented immigrantsâ could do for their own country if they had actually stayed there and worked.
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u/Dusso423 12m ago
That number is actually true, so great job. However, it doesnât take into account spending. Which is almost double according to congressional budgeting.
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u/MonsieurKnife 10m ago
Why canât we do both? Enforce immigration laws AND tax billionaires sensibly?
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u/Comfortable_Ice7205 5m ago
Alot of the Mexican contractors in austin don't want to pay taxes i ask them for a itin number and they tell me they don't have one and don't want to get one
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u/trying3216 4m ago
Avoiding taxes, using loopholes, and evading taxes are three very different things.
Is there a source in how much rich people EVADE taxes?
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u/antiaircraft20mm 3m ago
How do you prove whether an illegal paid any taxes at all if they're undocumented?
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u/Durabull26 2h ago
Everyone complaining about the â1%â while getting Amazon delivered should reassess
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u/Top_Crow931 2h ago
You mean the same top 1% that pays 38% of all federal taxes? 823 billion in the year 2023?
Got it.
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u/hackmalafore 1h ago
would you like to compare it with how much they take?
Or, do we want to talk about their contribution in comparison to their employees? Because those are takers, and nothing you can say changes that they manipulated the tax system over 50 years, and gee, how did the 1% with 32% of the wealth pay 26% of the taxes?
Do you benefit from that 6%? Because your boss pays less tax than you, do you think that's fair? Just because the number is bigger? You rich morons don't seem to understand that the average American would give you 26% of his daily pay (~$100) if you needed it, but you selfish cucks cant seem to pay your fair share....share, which you selfish pricks don't know how. It's the only way you can derive that kind of inequality. Gordon gecko was a character to be hated, not celebrated. Greed is not good, and that's why your kids are just waiting for you to die.
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u/flymon68 1h ago
The top 1% may avoid taxes and some do evade I'm sure, but they pay over 1 trillion. About 40% of all taxes collected come from the top 1%.
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u/Romol75 1h ago
It's never been about taxes (well for some morons it may be I guess). It's about law and order, and about trust in society. As an immigrant myself, it is an insult to us to say that illegals should not be bothered. But mostly, if your very arrival in this society is based on not respecting its laws and systems, why should we trust you about ANYTHING else? If the very first thing that qualifies you here is being a criminal from the very beginning, what can we expect you to bring to society? And that's for the best cases.
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u/Glassjaw888 1h ago
illegal is illegal. You should have not been in the US in the first place. Go do the right thing and we dont have to compare, Just taxpayer citizen.
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u/primeweed 55m ago
Illegals cost Americans 300bill+ per year and that includes the illegal tax payments to IRS with stolen SS cards and that's a very important distinction ILLEGAL not "undocumented" but hay if y'all want slaves I don't approve but you do you DemoKKKrats
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u/HammeringHarmon 34m ago
Illegal aliens use over 100 billion in resources every year. Why does the first photo say undocumented immigrants and the second photo says immigrants. Someone who went through immigration legally would have every right to be offended at that slight.
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u/RansomBeckwith 2h ago
Everybody from this lowly minion to the richest man on the planets knows taxes are a sewer hole of theft and corruption.
Everyone with a wit of sense avoids any taxes they don't have to pay.
Just for clarity. The top 1% currently pay 40.4% of all federal income taxes. Fact.
The bottom 50% of earners pay 3% of all federal income taxes. Fact
Paying or not paying taxes isn't the crux of the issue. Fraud, theft and outright corruption on every level of government is the real place the rubber meets the road.
Stop the theft, fraud and corruption and taxes can be reduced on every level.
Thank you. God bless.
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u/Due-Explanation-7560 2h ago edited 1h ago
Percentage of income tax paid into system not percentage taken out of pay just to be clear. 37% of your income, not including deductions when making over 660k sure hurts a lot less than 10% of someone making 12k Not to mention the 1% holds most of their wealth in assets, not income so their true wealth comes from stocks, property and other assets that they have a letiny of ways to avoid tax on, like taking low interest loans out to purchase more assets to increase their wealth without have to sell these assets avoiding capital gains tax.
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u/tookanarrow2thekneee 2h ago
The top 1% are responsible and main offenders for the wage theft, fraud, and corruption. Your logic is "Stop the corruption, but the ones that are corrupt and committed the wage theft aren't corrupt"
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u/BundyWay 2h ago
We found out the hard way when businesses were heavily taxed in the past. That's why hardly ever see anything made in the US anymore. Those businesses went overseas and all the jobs they provided.
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u/contractorskid 1h ago
They went overseas because Americans demand higher wages. That's literally it.
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u/Salty_Ballz845 1h ago
Why the fck would they pay taxes when there UNDOCUMENTED??? If i didnt have to pay taxs ever aging that would be SOOOO Nice so NO. Stopnthe bullshit
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u/contractorskid 1h ago
Because like half or more of them are just people who overstayed their visa. A lot of them are working and paying income tax. Hence why ICE got records from the IRS.
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u/Adventurous-Owl6297 19m ago
Then they are not undocumented they are documented illegal immigrants. Undocumented means they never had a visaÂ
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u/Anxious_Sleep1398 1h ago
They certainly not getting a tax break with the foodstamps they aren't using since they have no ID
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u/over_the_chill 3h ago
Sources please.
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u/Veshaad Timendi Causa Est Nescire 3h ago
Your fingers, the device you're currently on, and a quick Google search referencing what's listed here.
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u/BeGoodPeoplePlease 2h ago
Took two seconds
https://itep.org/undocumented-immigrants-taxes-2024/
I know you won't read it because it's not a picture book but to show others that you "people" are stupid on purpose.
Anti-intellectualism is a helluva drug, real lowest common denominator behavior.
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u/SilverSageVII 3h ago
They call it corporate welfare. Itâs the most disgusting and unAmerican idea. The same people that cry about free market ideals are happy to take the bailouts and the tax breaks and then they donât even reinvest it into the workforce they employ. The tax breaks were meant to help the boss pay employees more competitively and keep their workforce employed and skilled. Instead they use it for their own personal gain and then tell everyone to be wary of the foreigner who is contributing to society far more just by being a good human being.