Tipping should be for the blue collar people who dont set their own price. The pizza delivery kid gets a tip if my pizza was ok and he was nice. The bike shop guy does not get a tip. The hairdresser who told me how much it would be doesnt get a tip. You told me how much it would be. But if youre a server just busting your ass you my friend are getting 20%. The only reason I dont like tipping those types of people is because it endorses the whole system and reinforces the strategy with the owners. "We dont gotta pay them a living wage they get tips" but im not gonna stop tipping and make those people suffer for it. The 20% tip options at a McDonald's when you've walked in and literally ordered it yourself too from a kiosk. Youre not getting a fucking tip. Im not rounding anything up and im not donating to charity for you.
Tipping a hairdresser at a big chain is ethical though. They don't make enough at all. I still do tip my local barber though as he does not charge enough in the slightest.
Do you tip grocery store workers? Like Trader Joe’s people who bag your stuff? Hotel cleaning staff? Fast food workers? Flight attendants? Tour guides?
I’ve tipped flight attendants and I always leave money in my room at hotels for cleaning staff. I’d probably tip a tour guide also if they showed me a lot of cool places and were full of knowledge.
All of that is relative to where you live. Paramedics around my area make $38+ an hour (if you’re not working for a crappy private ambulance company.) Good money in the South.
Where I am from Paramedics don't go through as much schooling as cosmetologists. Isn't that wild!? They spend less time in and on school AND they get paid more upon immediately entering their field.....the hair dressers at the great clips that I take my kids to make $9.50/hour; I don't imagine other chains like Fantastic Sams, cost cutters, etc. are offering anything higher. I feel even worse for the chain salon employees that are suckered into commission, like the staff at Lady Janes. They tell those women to wear skirts and heels and under pay them despite cosmetologists being educated and licensed professionals.
Top commenter you're replying to thinks they have it all figured out but they don't.
They probably don't even realize BOH and FOH in restaurants all take in a slice of the total tip, and FOH (wait staff) get drained out the 10% regardless. So if they don't get tipped, they technically lose money.
Most "employee" hair dressers at salons depend on tips too.
What part is not true? If you tip a waitress in cash, she puts it in her pocket and doesn't tell the restaurant. I have no idea how what you said relates to anything I said.
She is still expected to tip out based on her sales. If you do or do not tip in cash makes no difference other than for taxes. She is expected to pay the same amount into the tip pool. If enough people tip low or don’t tip, she may literally pay to come to work to cover the tip out. Normally a decent manager will put a stop to that, but not always.
And if one person is holding cash and not declaring it to the tip pool, that will also have coworkers sideyeing you.
I’m just saying it’s not as simple as “they don’t know about the cash I gave her.” The restaurant expects you to pay into the tip pool a set percentage of your sales, period. The only benefit is not declaring the income for taxes, but even then, some restaurants auto-declare a percentage of your cash sales too, especially in big soulless corporate places.
I could definitely see both those. The modest humble guy who refuses. I then am challenged to hide money somewhere for that friendly bastard. And the hairdresser who's not setting her prices at that point falls into my pizza delivery system. Good cut and they were even mildly friendly just grinding as a hairdresser for some shop they dont own just a regular employee, of course.
My barber doesnt speak english but he does a fantastic job, seriously the best I have ever had. Extremely gentle and meticulous and my hair looks excellent every time. Its entertaining too. Im 6'4" and he needs to use a stool. He charges $8.50! I hand him a 20 every time!
I tip at Great Clips, I even restock the candy that they give to kids.
I took my kid there the first time and they gave him a little sucker. The second time, they said they were out. I asked if the owner was gonna refill it and they said they normally pay for it themselves.
Everytime I take my kid there I check to see how much they have left. If its low then I get a few bags and have my kid drop it off.
They like it and my kid feels great about helping... he then asks for a sucker for dropping it off lol
You mention they should be tipped because they don’t make enough. That is exactly what the person you replied to mentioned was the problem. By endorsing tipping, it has percolated into other areas of business allowing business owners to shift payroll costs over to customers in the form of tips.
Paying a server more is different because there is a level of attention being paid to you over other customers. Speed of service, how often they return, etc. is what earns a waiter/waitress a tip over someone doing a job for one customer at a time.
Tipping the barber depends on whether or not they own the business/are self employed. Like my last barber was an employee of the place I went to, and I tipped him because I knew some amount of the money I paid for the cut was going to his boss.
But then he broke off on his own and started his own place and started charging more than I paid at the previous place plus tip, so I stopped tipping him.
Yea I agree. As an aside though, it really grinded my gears that a barber got annoyed I didn’t offer a tip on time when I went to his house on his time for a haircut. He worked at a chain. I met him out one night, and said hey i like the way you cut my hair, if we exchange numbers, you can cut my hair offsite and you can keep the whole profit rather than just your hourly/split with the parlor/however you’re normally paid.
Went to his spot, on a time convenient around his barbershop schedule, where he clearly had a spot in his apartment specifically set up for shit like that. He charged me the normal rate that I get at the parlor. I thought okay yea, he gets the full profit, and I get a little discount by not having to tip. That annoyed him. I caved and tipped. So wait, I met you at your place, on a time convenient to you, you’re not making an hourly wage or cutting the fee with the barber shop owner, but I still have to pay full price AND tip you? Yea I’m not tipping people who set their own price and get the full profit. And I never set up an appointment like that again. I get no benefit from it. So I just started scheduling my appointments with him through the parlor again.
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u/MonicaTrollinski 9h ago edited 6h ago
Tipping should be for the blue collar people who dont set their own price. The pizza delivery kid gets a tip if my pizza was ok and he was nice. The bike shop guy does not get a tip. The hairdresser who told me how much it would be doesnt get a tip. You told me how much it would be. But if youre a server just busting your ass you my friend are getting 20%. The only reason I dont like tipping those types of people is because it endorses the whole system and reinforces the strategy with the owners. "We dont gotta pay them a living wage they get tips" but im not gonna stop tipping and make those people suffer for it. The 20% tip options at a McDonald's when you've walked in and literally ordered it yourself too from a kiosk. Youre not getting a fucking tip. Im not rounding anything up and im not donating to charity for you.