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Just... ask for more money?

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u/MonicaTrollinski 9h ago edited 7h ago

Tipping should be for the blue collar people who dont set their own price. The pizza delivery kid gets a tip if my pizza was ok and he was nice. The bike shop guy does not get a tip. The hairdresser who told me how much it would be doesnt get a tip. You told me how much it would be. But if youre a server just busting your ass you my friend are getting 20%. The only reason I dont like tipping those types of people is because it endorses the whole system and reinforces the strategy with the owners. "We dont gotta pay them a living wage they get tips" but im not gonna stop tipping and make those people suffer for it. The 20% tip options at a McDonald's when you've walked in and literally ordered it yourself too from a kiosk. Youre not getting a fucking tip. Im not rounding anything up and im not donating to charity for you.

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u/tjsquishface 9h ago

I had a plumbing company ask for a tip on their payment screen. 20 percent on a 2k bill. I tapped hell TF no.

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u/Cheap-Ambition5336 9h ago

As a former plumber, most plumbers deserve zero tips lmfao.

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u/SammathNaur1600 9h ago

Tipping a hairdresser at a big chain is ethical though. They don't make enough at all. I still do tip my local barber though as he does not charge enough in the slightest.

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u/Patient-Energy-8352 9h ago

There are a lot of jobs that don’t pay well that we don’t tip for. You tip paramedics?

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u/Red_Sox0905 9h ago

I don't have an extra $1,200 laying around to tip paramedics unfortunately.

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u/WingersAbsNotches 7h ago

Can't even tip 1%, geez /s

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u/Patient-Energy-8352 8h ago

Do you tip grocery store workers? Like Trader Joe’s people who bag your stuff? Hotel cleaning staff? Fast food workers? Flight attendants? Tour guides?

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u/RacksOnRacksOnRacks3 7h ago

I’ve tipped flight attendants and I always leave money in my room at hotels for cleaning staff. I’d probably tip a tour guide also if they showed me a lot of cool places and were full of knowledge.

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u/Extension_Can_2973 7h ago

It’s very common to leave tips for hotel cleaning staff, are you being serious?

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u/Patient-Energy-8352 5h ago

23% of Americans do this

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u/greatuncleglazer 9h ago

All of that is relative to where you live. Paramedics around my area make $38+ an hour (if you’re not working for a crappy private ambulance company.) Good money in the South.

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u/fromearthtomorgue 8h ago

I don’t think paramedics would be allowed to accept tips since it’s medical, I’ve heard it’s an ethical thing

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u/FinancialLab8983 8h ago

buddy, if i need a paramedic some day, i promise you that i will tip them as long as they save my life.

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u/sovereign666 8h ago

do you want paramedics to decide if they do a good job or not based on if you tip?

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u/HJSDGCE 3h ago

Do you want anyone to decide that?

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u/halfgatorhalfhorse 6h ago

Where I am from Paramedics don't go through as much schooling as cosmetologists. Isn't that wild!? They spend less time in and on school AND they get paid more upon immediately entering their field.....the hair dressers at the great clips that I take my kids to make $9.50/hour; I don't imagine other chains like Fantastic Sams, cost cutters, etc. are offering anything higher. I feel even worse for the chain salon employees that are suckered into commission, like the staff at Lady Janes. They tell those women to wear skirts and heels and under pay them despite cosmetologists being educated and licensed professionals.

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u/ItIsSoOrdered23 1h ago

With food yeah.

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u/HellaReyna 9h ago

Top commenter you're replying to thinks they have it all figured out but they don't.

They probably don't even realize BOH and FOH in restaurants all take in a slice of the total tip, and FOH (wait staff) get drained out the 10% regardless. So if they don't get tipped, they technically lose money.

Most "employee" hair dressers at salons depend on tips too.

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u/coldlightofday 9h ago

Tipping is just a dumb shitshow that needs to go away.

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u/sonicpieman 8h ago

Ngl, knowing that makes me want to tip waiters even less.

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u/Omnom_Omnath 5h ago

No restaurant Ive ever worked BOH did I ever get a share of the tips.

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u/Downtown-Soft-9770 8h ago

Restaurants don't take anything if you tip in cash. That's what I always do, just leave it on the table for the waitress or hand it to her directly.

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u/Funny-ish-_-Scholar 8h ago

Not true. Many do a percentage of sales, not the tip, with the expectation that if you’re consistently not getting tipped you’ll quit.

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u/Downtown-Soft-9770 8h ago

What part is not true? If you tip a waitress in cash, she puts it in her pocket and doesn't tell the restaurant. I have no idea how what you said relates to anything I said.

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u/Funny-ish-_-Scholar 8h ago

She is still expected to tip out based on her sales. If you do or do not tip in cash makes no difference other than for taxes. She is expected to pay the same amount into the tip pool. If enough people tip low or don’t tip, she may literally pay to come to work to cover the tip out. Normally a decent manager will put a stop to that, but not always.

And if one person is holding cash and not declaring it to the tip pool, that will also have coworkers sideyeing you.

I’m just saying it’s not as simple as “they don’t know about the cash I gave her.” The restaurant expects you to pay into the tip pool a set percentage of your sales, period. The only benefit is not declaring the income for taxes, but even then, some restaurants auto-declare a percentage of your cash sales too, especially in big soulless corporate places.

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u/Downtown-Soft-9770 8h ago

That must depend heavily on the restaurant. I've worked in several and none of them did that. But I believe you.

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u/HellaReyna 5h ago

The steakhouse chain, "The Keg" does this in my city. They expect you to get tipped and will take 10% of your sales. Hiding money won't do anything.

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u/Technical-Mix-981 5h ago

my god. paying for working. the" tip out" is crazy. American capitalism is something else. because I'm assuming you are American, right?

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u/MonicaTrollinski 9h ago

I could definitely see both those. The modest humble guy who refuses. I then am challenged to hide money somewhere for that friendly bastard. And the hairdresser who's not setting her prices at that point falls into my pizza delivery system. Good cut and they were even mildly friendly just grinding as a hairdresser for some shop they dont own just a regular employee, of course.

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u/master-boofer 8h ago

My barber doesnt speak english but he does a fantastic job, seriously the best I have ever had. Extremely gentle and meticulous and my hair looks excellent every time. Its entertaining too. Im 6'4" and he needs to use a stool. He charges $8.50! I hand him a 20 every time!

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u/No-Perception3305 9h ago

I tip at Great Clips, I even restock the candy that they give to kids.

I took my kid there the first time and they gave him a little sucker. The second time, they said they were out. I asked if the owner was gonna refill it and they said they normally pay for it themselves.

Everytime I take my kid there I check to see how much they have left. If its low then I get a few bags and have my kid drop it off.

They like it and my kid feels great about helping... he then asks for a sucker for dropping it off lol

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u/Bill-Billiard 6h ago

You mention they should be tipped because they don’t make enough. That is exactly what the person you replied to mentioned was the problem. By endorsing tipping, it has percolated into other areas of business allowing business owners to shift payroll costs over to customers in the form of tips.

Paying a server more is different because there is a level of attention being paid to you over other customers. Speed of service, how often they return, etc. is what earns a waiter/waitress a tip over someone doing a job for one customer at a time.

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u/_probablyryan 7h ago

Tipping the barber depends on whether or not they own the business/are self employed. Like my last barber was an employee of the place I went to, and I tipped him because I knew some amount of the money I paid for the cut was going to his boss.

But then he broke off on his own and started his own place and started charging more than I paid at the previous place plus tip, so I stopped tipping him.

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u/rem_1984 9h ago

Yep my friend charges like $10 because it’s a chain and th ey dont pick, i almost double it

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u/latemodelusedcar 9h ago

Yea I agree. As an aside though, it really grinded my gears that a barber got annoyed I didn’t offer a tip on time when I went to his house on his time for a haircut. He worked at a chain. I met him out one night, and said hey i like the way you cut my hair, if we exchange numbers, you can cut my hair offsite and you can keep the whole profit rather than just your hourly/split with the parlor/however you’re normally paid.

Went to his spot, on a time convenient around his barbershop schedule, where he clearly had a spot in his apartment specifically set up for shit like that. He charged me the normal rate that I get at the parlor. I thought okay yea, he gets the full profit, and I get a little discount by not having to tip. That annoyed him. I caved and tipped. So wait, I met you at your place, on a time convenient to you, you’re not making an hourly wage or cutting the fee with the barber shop owner, but I still have to pay full price AND tip you? Yea I’m not tipping people who set their own price and get the full profit. And I never set up an appointment like that again. I get no benefit from it. So I just started scheduling my appointments with him through the parlor again.

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u/3m4n 7h ago

"The pizza delivery kid gets a tip if my pizza was ok"

Wtf? You make the delivery kid wait there while you taste the pizza?

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u/Impossible_Detail176 5h ago

I think they mean if there pizza got there safely, Like the box isn't busted or something

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u/TheChudWhisperer 9h ago

I tip my hairdresser because she's been charging me $30 for a haircut for the past 17 years. I usually just send her $50.

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u/Chubuwee 9h ago

Nah, stop tipping all across the board. Don’t encourage that shit. It is a way to put clients versus workers

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u/Whatever0788 9h ago

Then you shouldn’t be giving business to the places that don’t pay their employees enough. That’s literally the only way to end tipping culture.

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u/Masterleon 9h ago

The employees don't want tip culture to end because most of them make way more from tips than they would from a salary/wage with no tips. They're part of the problem just as much as the business owners are

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u/witcher252 8h ago

No one ever talks about this side.

I’m a surgical trauma nurse and I know a guy who makes more money bartending weekends in a medium sized Midwest city.

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u/IudexJudy 7h ago

Dutch Bros baristas make an average of $22 an hour because of tips in AZ loo

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u/TheBourbonTurtle 8h ago

Wrong. If they stop getting tipped they'll either demand more from the people that pay them or they'll quit. Either way, it will solve the issue.

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u/ReapMeInLight 8h ago

You're just cheap and finding excuses for your cheapness

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u/GrasstouchYou 7h ago

The most egregious one for me are concert merch vendors asking for a tip. Like, seriously? Do they regularly tip their local cashiers at their favorite clothing stores? Cause I sure as hell don't.

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u/FreshTony 7h ago

Interesting to say the bike shop guy doesnt get a tip. Most bike shop guys are employees making an hourly wage and not setting their rates. As someone that once was a bike mechanic, the money wasn't great compared to the thousands I brought in each day in repairs. I had plenty of customers that would tip with cash or beer or other fun things and they were always appreciated.

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u/throwaway19851969 6h ago

Interesting. I tip my barber because he charges the same as the other guys in the shop but he’s far superior

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u/GoCougs2020 6h ago

I think that’s state dependent.

Here in Washington, you can’t be paid below minimum wage. So even if you don’t tip, they still get paid minimum wage.
Which is no different than working retail at target or working in McDonald’s (min wage no tip)

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u/WowImOldAF 6h ago

How can you "tip the pizza delivery kid" if your pizza was okay. Do you ask them to wait, open the box, give it a quick look, take a bite, and then give a tip if it tastes/looks good?

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u/MonicaTrollinski 3h ago

Lol I saw someone else ask this. My bar is so low I quite literally mean ok as in one singular container and resembling a circle. But I will let them stay for my review if they want.

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u/FoozleGenerator 4h ago

You don’t make anyone suffer when you don’t tip.

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u/Remarkable-Oven-2938 1h ago

Tipping should be for the blue collar people who dont set their own price.

No, tipping should be banned

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u/CatEmoji123 9h ago

Most hairdressers do not set their own prices.

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u/Beer_sighted 9h ago

It’s very common for a tattoo artist to kickback a percentage to the shop.
In liue of paying an itemized bill related to supplies, utilities, rent etc - the house gets 60-40%
So charging more means giving back more to the house.
Charging less means more room for tip.

Now this isn’t always the case, but it’s common enough.

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u/Conscious-Economy971 20m ago

Even in that kind of a situation, are we just saying fuck the shop? Of course they should get more money when artists charge more, it incentivizes the shop to keep better artists in the booths. Also its the shop paying the insane commercial rent at the end of the month

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u/PerryTheBunkaquag 9h ago

People at those chains don't even get the tips, the owners do and MAYBE they'll give some back to SOME of the staff

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u/dufo7 9h ago

I dont recall barbers asking for tips before, now my kids cut is triple the price and they want a tip on top

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u/wouldbecrazycatlady 9h ago

The charity donations are a HUGE scam anyway. They've already paid the donation to get the tax breaks, they're just guilting their customers into paying back their donations.

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u/Badboblfg 9h ago

I keep seeing and hearing about the charity round ups that all these companies are doing, and while it is annoying, if it shows up on your receipt, it is a tax deductible donation that was made directly by you and you could even claim it on your taxes.

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u/latemodelusedcar 9h ago

I almost 100% agree but for hairdressers, I’ll do a tip. I don’t know how much they are paid compared to servers and bartenders and delivery drivers, but I’m sitting in their chair they are taking the time to do my hair the specific way I want, adjusting if I change my mind a little after looking at it, and also however long I’m in there chair I’m taking away their chance someone else could have been sitting there for a more expensive cut and tipping more.

But overall I agree with your sentiment. As a bartender. I don’t like tipping culture. I was paid minimum wage without tips. My employer should be paying me a living wage. BUT if that’s the way it’s going to be, then I’m going to tip servers and bartenders because they make jack shit from their employer and I’m occupying their space, for 30 mins- 1 hour and they are constantly checking in on me and what I want or need like a servant. Register people or business owners or people who set their own prices, I fundamentally oppose having to tip them.

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u/CicatriceDeFeu 9h ago

I think tipping at mcdonalds is ok cos the staff are usually doing all sorts such as cleaning/till/cooking/drive thru etc. but 20% seems steep (im not american)

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u/alewiina 9h ago

if you're at a chain hairdressing place, tip them. Just like servers and the pizza delivery kid, they don't make very much money. Different for independent ones or like at fancy salons

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u/master-boofer 9h ago

My barber runs a small family business, just the guy and his wife. He always does a fantastic job and rdally takes his time. He generally takes close to an hour to cut my hair. In 2026 he charges $8.50 for a mens hair cut! I hand him a $20 every time. He easily does $20 worth of work and I feel like thats a steal. Ive had much worse $40 haircuts and most of tbe chain places with inexperienced barbers charge $25.

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u/NoAddition8958 8h ago

You’re argument has some logical issues
What makes you think that hairdressers and bike shop guys set their own prices? You assume these are self employed, but at least in my country these are employees in store owned shops just like the pizza guy

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u/IwasntDrunkThatNight 8h ago

why not...just have decent prices? why tipping at all?

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u/Kind_Ability3218 8h ago

hahaha i can guarantee you have comically bad hair unless you're hairdresser is charging $80+ for your cuts

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u/DrowAboveground 9h ago

I’m a hairdresser and don’t set my own prices, fyi.

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u/fearthainne 9h ago

I agree and think it makes sense but I do struggle with feeling obligated to tip when they're charging by the hour to do hair, which a lot of stylists are switching to. The stylist I currently go to is switching from service-based pricing to $100/hr. At that price point, I feel like she's already getting what she feels is a fair wage, so tipping on top of the $300-$400 seems excessive.

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u/h22lude 9h ago

I do believe most hairdressers that rent a chair do still set their own prices. They are still an independent business just renting space.

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u/Aggressive_Key_7763 9h ago

You don't tip the haircut lady after she do a good job on your hair? Just say you are broke bud

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u/h22lude 9h ago

I haven't been to a barber since college. Been doing my own hair. Why would anyone tip a barber? Don't they set their own prices? You would be paying them for their services based on what they want to charge? Why are we tipping every service now?

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u/skintypuppy 9h ago

the waitress does not set the prices besides at big chains most hairstylists are their own boss and decide their wage and prices servers get paid like $8 an hour

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u/CMDR-TealZebra 9h ago

Are you actually this dense or are you pretending? Yes tipping is bad but their logic is clear ...

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u/EatSoupFromMyGoatse 9h ago

The hairdresser sets the price of the haircut. The waitress does not get paid directly by you nor controls the price of services rendered.

I don't understand how you don't see the difference.

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u/h22lude 9h ago

Because a hairdresser sets their own prices (even ones that rent a chair) or if they are employed by the salon they get paid more than minimum wage. Waitstaff are paid under minimum wage with the expectation that their tips will bring their hourly pay up to minimum wage.

Do you tip your mechanic, accountant, person that bags your groceries? Where do you draw the line with tipping?

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u/Excludos 9h ago

Tipping should be for the blue collar people who dont set their own price. The pizza dilvery kid gets a tip if my pizza was ok and he was nice. The bike shop guy does not get a tip. The hairdresser who told me how much it would be doesnt get a tip. You told me how much it would be. But if youre a server just busting your ass you my friend are getting 20%. The only reason I dont like tipping those types of people is because it endorses the whole system and reinforces the strategy with the owners. "We dont gotta pay them a living wage they get tips" but im not gonna stop tipping and make those people suffer for it. The 20% tip options at a McDonald's when you've walked in and literally ordered it yourself too from a kiosk. Youre not getting a fucking tip. Im not rounding anything up and im not donating to charity for you.

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