r/memes • • 10h ago

Just... ask for more money?

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u/ResponsibleBowl492 10h ago

Yep. And lord have mercy on your soul if you don’t tip

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u/Happy_Disaster7347 10h ago

I might not have a lot to be proud of about the UK, but fuck me I am so glad we don't have a tipping culture.

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u/Exark141 10h ago

I would say most restaurants here do add on a 10% service fee at the end, they just hope you don't notice

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u/zcontium 10h ago

10% isn't bad, but here in the US you're kind of expected to tip 20%-25% on most things

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u/nnnoooeee 9h ago

Which i still dont get. Standard used to be 15% and now the default os 20%.

I know everything is more expensive, but that should be accounted for with a %, versus a static number, no?

(not asking you personally, just venting out loud)

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u/RiparianTreeLobster 9h ago

In California they also add “service fees” and “cost of living fees” with the letters description being “to provide adequate pay and insurance for employees. This is not a tip, please tip your server” and that exists so management can scrape off an additional 15% that goes into an “employee fund” which just means they take it and pocket it.

Like how about you just pay your employees and then if I think they did a superb job I will give them a little extra

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u/sender2bender 9h ago

They list those fees, like COL, healthcare, ect, to send a message. Usually to complain about a politician or law. I've been in a couple restaurants that had it listed and they name the governor and/or the law. They don't have to, they can put it in the price like everything else. If one of their vendors raises prices they don't and try to make a statement or list it as a separate cost. It's disrespectful to the employees too, like I didn't want to give my employees enough money to live but unfortunately I have to. I once brought it up to a waiter after getting a bill with added costs and you could tell she hated her boss for putting it on the menu. Made sure to give her cash tip. I don't eat at those restaurants anymore and will walk out as soon as I see it listed.

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u/SleepyLabrador 7h ago

Just don't tip or take any fees from your tip.

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u/RiparianTreeLobster 7h ago

While I really agree, I know how much I am struggling out here so I do tip just so the employee can eat dinner (I also just don’t go out to eat anymore cuz I just can’t afford a $25-30 meal that becomes $45-50 with random fees and the tip). I also like to do cash tip so I know they get it and not come scummy management. But again, can’t afford it anymore except for an occasion or if I need a pick me up lol

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u/RedneckScienceGeek 9h ago

I'm old enough to remember when standard was 10%, and 15% was reserved for exceptional service.

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u/pisspeeleak 9h ago

I still do that. Minimum wage here is like $18/hr. It’s not like the states where you can pay them $3/hr. I refuse to tip a minimum of 18% like so many machines insist on

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u/Zebidee 8h ago

I've had arguments on here with people who say 10% was never a thing. I'm Gen X, so it wasn't even that long ago.

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u/pisspeeleak 7h ago

I was born in 97. This is in Canada so it is a bit different, but I always grew up with 10%, 2019/2020 is when it started just skyrocketing

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u/Appropriate_Ride_821 7h ago

Im a millennial and it wasn't that long ago

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u/ipourmilkfirst 7h ago

I am shocked to see people saying 10% was a thing, been tipping since the 90s and never tipped below 15%. Everyone I know tipped either 20% or double the tax (about 15-20% depending on the year)

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u/Quick1711 4h ago

Me too

They’ve passed on the cost of paying their employees on to the consumer being required to tip them more. It’s total bullshit

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u/zcontium 9h ago

I know you weren't asking me directly, but I genuinely believe its because of the corporate culture shift, trying to put more pressure on the customers to pay employees directly, thus having the employers pay less.

10-15% is a good tip. 25% feels like were fronting the employee wages on top of the service fees.

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u/blackcray 9h ago

That's exactly what it is, most states still have the tipped wage set well below the federal minimum, and the companies operating them don't want to give that up.

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u/StrictlySanDiego 9h ago

I tip 15% minus any added service fee. I don’t care anymore.

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u/Biduleman 7h ago

Where I live, during Covid they pushed us to tip more because people at home ate less delivery food.

The reason people at home ate less delivery is because lots of people stopped being paid so it was pretty tone deaf from the start.

Then, restaurants and servers saw that people did it, and then continued after covid, so the expectation stayed.

Restaurant prices grew so tips would have gone up anyway (15% of $30 is more than 15% of $20) but they're still asking for the 18%-25%.

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u/cortez_brosefski 6h ago

Yes, that's exactly how a percentage works. The higher the base price, the higher the tip will be.

I don't understand why the expected percentage changed to 20% all of a sudden. Hell, some people are even asking for 25-30% now

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u/meh_69420 3h ago

The standard went to 20% because the mental math for 15% is too hard for most people these days. All the other old rules are out the window as well, like you're only supposed to tip 10% on alcohol and tip on before tax amounts not the total.

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u/dontnation 9h ago

Agreed. The whole point of a percentage is that the tip will increase along with prices. Now some servers are arguing that a 20% tip is the "minimum", which is crazy. On the other hand, the minimum base pay for tipped workers hasn't increased since 1991. Some states have increased that limit, but the majority have not, and many that have only require base pay to supplement tips up to minimum wage combined.

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u/lexalander 9h ago

The standard is still 15%.

These people just have to show everyone what victims they are.

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u/Moderator-Admin 9h ago

I don't get why people keep saying it's higher. They must be workers that get tips trying to sway public opinion so they make more money.

As prices for food goes up (which they have quite ridiculously), 15% of that amount also increases. Why should I give an even higher increase for no reason?

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u/JaysFan26 9h ago

15% is definitely the lowest tip option on a lot of checkout systems now, if not 18%. I'd assume it won't be long till 18% is the new minimum on the majority of screens and you need to press the "other" button in front of the person who served you to put in 15%.

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u/Mekisteus 9h ago

If the person who served me is hovering over me watching me complete the tip portion to pressure me, they're not even getting 15%.

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u/lexalander 8h ago

The fear you all have of clicking on other is crazy.

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u/MazerNoob 7h ago

On top of w.e random fees they have already included

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u/fiddeldeedee 7h ago

That's something that's holding me back from visiting your country... that and the several ingredients that are allowed in your food that are banned in Europe.

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u/Quick1711 4h ago

No tf ur not!! 15% is a good high

20-25% is outrageous for services rendered

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u/zcontium 4h ago

Idk about your experience but most of the time I use services, anything from a gas pump to doordash to a coffee vendor the tip screen always shows "10% - 20% - 25%" making 20% in the center and subliminally the "default" option.

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u/Quick1711 4h ago

We are being passed on the costs of paying their employees.

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u/zcontium 4h ago

Exactly. It sucks. :(

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u/NefariousnessOk209 8h ago

So on a night out if you scan a menu you just gotta assume everything on the menu is 75-80% of full cost.

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u/DadBodZawa 8h ago

And a lot of restaurants still add a service fee.