r/memes • • 9h ago

Just... ask for more money?

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u/DiscoLibra 9h ago edited 6h ago

It's why I haven't gotten my tattoo touched up. I was quoted for $500+ for my tattoo touch up and a 25% tip on top of that, just can't afford it.

Edit for Clarification: Apologies on the confusion, my mistake for using the word touch up. My tattoo is 20+ years old, and was looking for quotes to get it redone (touch up), but not a coverup.

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u/melswift 8h ago

Tips went from "you did a really good job" to "I did the job" for some reason.

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

A good tattoo artist doesn't have to take your business. If you aren't tipping them, then you don't think their work is good enough for a tip.

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u/BlueCat9922 8h ago

Or they could stop being so pretentious and raise their prices instead if they don't think they're making enough.

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

What difference does that make to you?

And why do you care?

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u/cykoTom3 7h ago

Because we contracted for a price and they are effectively lying. It's not like a restraunt where the price is set by the corporation and the server effectively doesn't get any of that money.

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u/-blundertaker- 8h ago

A tattoo artist sets their own prices and I expect to be charged exactly what they expect to be paid.

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

Cool :)

Don't tip then.

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u/cykoTom3 7h ago

No problem. Don't mention it.

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u/-blundertaker- 7h ago

Thanks for your permission! I didn't need it, but that's mighty kind.

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u/Hefty_Map3665 8h ago

A good artist charges what they need up front and doesn't low ball and hope to make up the difference in tips

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

That's not what is happening lmao. Since you feel so strongly, don't tip for your next tattoo that you'll never get.

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u/ViolentlyVia 5h ago

My artist has a sign on the counter that flat out says "we do not accept tips"

he charges what he's worth, like all artists should

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u/ggggofast 5h ago

Okay :)

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u/Ok_Fly1271 8h ago

Or they could just, you know, be an adult and charge a fair rate

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u/wtclim 8h ago

Fucking Americans man...

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u/ElephantCares 8h ago

Agreed. (And I am a US born citizen.)

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

I'm Canadian and have been tattooed more times in Europe/Australia than in the US.

If you fucking dorks can't imagine tipping your artist, don't tip them :)

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u/allgespraeche 4h ago

My artist, who has done all 14 of my tattoos, literally answers the question "how much would you like as a tip" with "just bring me some snacks, Id like that more".

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u/cykoTom3 7h ago

I don't think it's that they can't imagine it. But the average tattoo is average and doesn't deserve a tip.

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u/nova_noveiia 8h ago

If you’re paying $200 an hour, clearly you think their work is good because you’re paying $200 an hour with or without a tip.

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u/ggggofast 8h ago
  1. A portion of that money goes to the shop.
  2. The tip goes to the artist.
  3. If you don't want to tip, don't tip :)

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u/nova_noveiia 8h ago

Most of the time they just pay rent to the shop. Which… is most businesses. Most businesses either pay a mortgage or rent on their location.

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u/cykoTom3 7h ago

No problem buddy. Don't mention it.

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u/MrInCog_ 8h ago

A good tattoo artist doesn’t need a tip, what are we talking about?? They’ll just name their price. What does that even mean, “good enough for a tip”???? I’m paying you for the tattoo already

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u/ProposalWest3152 8h ago

Its because of morons like you that tipoing culture went nuts.

I guess you tip cops when they catch thieves? You tip the doctor when you visit them?

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u/Kaka-carrot-cake 8h ago

If I am quoted 500 for a tattoo then why is it expected to give them more money if I think the work is good enough? Is that not what they quoted me 500 for?

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u/ggggofast 7h ago

All good :)

Don't tip them :)

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u/Kaka-carrot-cake 7h ago

But im asking why not tipping means their work wasnt good enough.

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u/GrayScale15 7h ago

Would I be treated any differently by the artist the rest of the appointment or the next time if I don’t tip?

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u/cykoTom3 8h ago

I am unfamiliar with how tattoo parlors pay artists. Do they not set their own rates and just pay rent?

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u/nova_noveiia 8h ago

Most of the time it’s this.

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u/cykoTom3 7h ago

Most of the time they decide their own rates and just pay rent? Then asking for a tip is beyond absurd.

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u/nova_noveiia 7h ago

Yeah my artist charges $200 an hour and hits the “no tip” button on the POS when you pay by card before flipping the screen to you.

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u/cykoTom3 6h ago

I would absolutely require some convincing to take a tip on something that i decided how much it cost.

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u/FiddleThruTheFlowers 8h ago

A good artist charges the price that they think is fair for their work, knows that tattoos are expensive and a luxury, and doesn't expect a tip.

Source: I have more inked skin than blank skin and have been to a lot of artists. All of them have said something to the effect of tips being appreciated but not expected, and that they set their prices to what they think is fair. And yes, this is mostly in the US. Other countries where I've gotten tattooed just didn't have a tipping culture and it didn't even come up.

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u/TheBourbonTurtle 7h ago

They charge what they think their art is worth. If they thought it was worth 20% more than the quoted price then they should have made that the quoted price.

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u/quayle-man 8h ago

They told you your tip had to be 25%? I’ve seen a place before establish the tip percentage for themselves

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u/youtocin 8h ago

At that point calling it a tip is disingenuous. It’s a service fee.

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u/Money-Nectarine6584 8h ago

They set their own prices.  Just set the fucking price 25% higher if that’s what you wanted.

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u/NarwhalPrudent6323 8h ago

They do this for the same reason stores prices things at $3.99 instead of $4.00. Our stupid monkey brains see a smaller number and immediately ignore all the associated details that make it not a smaller number. 

By calling the 25% a tip, they get to advertise their rates lower than they actually are. They draw in customers with what seems like a good deal, and then since people are already there they just pay it anyway. 

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u/EndOfDecadence 7h ago

I'm directly appalled by the word tip, so I guess my monkey brain functions differently.

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u/Omnom_Omnath 4h ago

nah my monkey sees the bait and switch and knows that business owner is a scumbag

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u/Witch_heir 4h ago

In short - a legal scam. 

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u/SirMontego 5h ago

saving you $4000.

It might actually be as high as $5,500, depending on how "make 100k" is defined.

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u/AndrewH73333 8h ago

I dunno, a service fee should be part of the price already and is just a bogus markup. At least calling it a tip is being honest.

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u/Omnom_Omnath 4h ago

at that point just be honest and charge $625 up front with zero fees

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u/Roxylius 8h ago

Yeah, why not simply call it as service charge instead of passive aggressively shaking customer for money

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u/Elssa7 8h ago

and if 25% is service fee for tattooing, what is the 500+ then, material and rent only if yes, the the price should be for work, too they are not calculating it correctly

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u/quayle-man 8h ago

Hell, I’ve been to restaurants that charge a 10% service fee and a mandatory 20% gratuity. They put it on the menu though so you know upfront

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

25% is standard. They're saying they can't afford what is expected.

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u/ROCKKSOLIID 8h ago

Not required

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

It's expected everywhere in the world if you want to continue getting tattooed.

Like... cool... don't tip. That's 100% your decision. It also means you'll have to find a new tattoo artist. And a new one after that. And a new one after that. And a new one after that.

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u/RealDoraTheExplorer_ 8h ago

I don’t think you know much about the world. I have multiple tattoos all from the same studio minus maybe two and I’ve never tipped nor is it an expectation

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

My entire body is tattooed and I've been tattooed in shops across Europe, North America, and Australia. The tipping culture is the same except when an artist explicitly states otherwise.

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u/RealDoraTheExplorer_ 8h ago

I LIVE in Europe, I’ve gotten tattoos in Asia as well I know multiple people with tattoos and artists idk what places you’re going to but it’s not a cultural expectation to tip artists. We pay for the service thank them and leave

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

Guess I've just been more thankful to my artists. You do you.

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u/RealDoraTheExplorer_ 8h ago

It’s funny how Americans assume their culture should be standard and anyone who differs is just not as developed or nice as them. Our artists know not to take advantage of their customers but you do you

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u/IllegalDaycare 8h ago

Why not just roll that into the price then?

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

Because that's not the price. You don't have to tip.

But also... what difference would that even make? Why are you people so ass hurt over situations you will never find yourself in? Fuckin christ.

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u/IllegalDaycare 8h ago

I think ya’ll should just tell people how much money you want for the work and then those people pay that and everyone is happy

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

What difference would that make? Do you seriously not understand the desire to get tipped in cash?

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u/IllegalDaycare 8h ago

Because it makes way more sense. If I hire a plumber to fix my sink and he charges me 100 bucks I pay him 100 dollars. He doesn’t look at me expecting more. It is just simple communication.

A tip should be extra. It should never be expected. If it is expected than it should be listed as part of the price.

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u/ThatGuyLuis 8h ago

“Paying 1/5th of the bill extra to the one who provided you service is standard”

No it’s not and never has been stfu

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u/airboRN_82 8h ago

25% is 1/4th. 

In certain industries it is standard to tip up to 25%

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u/ThatGuyLuis 2h ago

Fat fingers

Point is still

Tips were never meant to rise with inflation, because 10% of something will always go up with the inflation, you don’t need to adjust for it.

10-15% is the max any tip should be, and it shouldn’t be expected, especially outside of food service.

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u/airboRN_82 1h ago

15-20% has been standard for waiters for a while. Skilled trades like barbers and tattoo artists always were a bit higher

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u/ThatGuyLuis 6m ago

That’s just what you believe in your head, it’s not a requirement or law and it shouldn’t be expected as your compensation since that’s not what it’s for.

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u/ggggofast 8h ago

No it’s not and never has been stfu

Okay then :)

Don't tip your tattoo artist :)

Just plan on finding a new one... and a new one after that... and a new one after that... and a new one after that... and a new one after that...

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u/allgespraeche 4h ago

Funny, 5 years with my artist, him being super happy if I bring him a few snacks and we enjoy every tattoo session.

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u/ThatGuyLuis 2h ago

Why would I need to go to a new tattoo shop ?

If I want, I’ll go back and ask for another price, I’ll compare it to other designs and other artists, because that’s how the free market works.

Tips aren’t required, otherwise they’re called fees.

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u/SchwizzySchwas94 8h ago

You just really seem to not be getting it.

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u/quayle-man 8h ago

Tipping then doesn’t make their work any better. Theres a local artist here who has good reviews, I’ve used him a couple times and each time had my design already made and I just asked him for a price to do it. Paid him whatever he asked and tipped him well to. But his work was not worthy of even the base price I paid.

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u/M1dj37 8h ago

This shit isn’t like going out to eat. The artist sets the price. If they want 750 instead of 500 fucking say something. The tips in America are for paying the unpaid wage of a worker. Does the artist not get paid for the art already? What the fuck am I tipping for? The expected result? Am I supposed to reward someone extra for… doing the job I’ve already paid for?

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u/CheGueyMaje 8h ago

Yanks are such bootlickers it’s insane lmao, you tip your landlords too or what?

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u/epelle9 8h ago

Holy fuck why is that so high? What are you paying for then?

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u/SlabsForDays 8h ago

Lol i need a tip for doing muh job. Get out of here with that nonsense especially for a tattoo place.

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u/teefdoll 8h ago

20% is standard, it always has been. Idk why it’d raise when prices have raised as well.

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u/quayle-man 8h ago

15% is the standard tip

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u/The_realpepe_sylvia 7h ago

Nah your post made sense, redditors are just deliberately obtuse and love to split hairs and can’t be wrong under any circumstances 

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u/Time_Machine8601 6h ago

Well I disagree. You are wrong and I am right. Neener neener neener.

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u/The_realpepe_sylvia 5h ago

I stand in awe at your flawless logic 

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u/AutoignitingDumpster 3h ago

Actually not all of us are and it's only specific circumstances /s

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u/HandjobCalrissian 8h ago

$500 for a touch up is insane. Is it a full body tattoo?

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u/Dinovius 8h ago

In all fairness the guy you wrote back to is this guy

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u/DiscoLibra 8h ago

No, its about a 7x5 inch tattoo on the back of my shoulder blade. I searched in our area and got three quotes and they were all about the same price. I just accepted my blue blob of a tattoo for now.

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u/MindofShadow 8h ago

touch up or cover up?

Two totally different things. Cover ups are extra hard and that is why they are gnerally more expensive.

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u/DiscoLibra 8h ago

I think bc my tattoo is so old, I'm 47 now, but got my tattoo at 18, that touching it up would be the same as redoing it? So, that could be a misunderstanding on my part.

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u/Any_Cicada623 8h ago

definitely sounds like a redo type deal if its a blob like you mentioned, touch ups are more if theres a couple spots color faded out or didnt take fully post healing

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u/FiddleThruTheFlowers 8h ago

OK yeah, that changes things. I was picturing a standard touch up within a year or two of the tattoo being completed. A touch up on an older tattoo is more like a redo, yes, so it will cost more.

Explicitly asking for 25% tip on top of it is still fucking wild.

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u/DiscoLibra 8h ago

Yes, I went and edited my original post. I think me using the word touch up got confusing. That's on me.

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u/Any_Instruction5382 8h ago

Is it a very difficult touch up or something? I don't know anything about tattoos, but I know the best place near me charges $250 an hour. Surely it doesn't take more than an hour for a touch up?

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u/BooHorde 8h ago

Is it a very difficult touch up or something?

No, touchups are generally quick and easy as the name implies. Maybe some color has been lost over the years and you need it added back in, maybe some lines have faded or highlights disapeared.

But OP saying "blue blob of a tattoo" implies it's more than a touchup.

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u/DiscoLibra 6h ago

Yes, apologies on the confusion, my mistake for using the word touch up. My tattoo is 20+ years old, and was looking for quotes to get it redone, but not a coverup.

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u/Jsc_TG 🎃Happy Spooktober🎃 8h ago

Ima get back to you about a good idea of a reasonable quote once I find out.

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u/HandjobCalrissian 8h ago

What area do you live in? I live in NYC and my artists usually offer at least the first touch up for free. I can't wrap my head around this being the norm anywhere.

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u/act_normal 8h ago

What is the +25% for??? Do they not receive a salary?

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u/DistributionOdd9089 8h ago

They usually earn a commission, split with the shop. Also back in the day you just tip a $20 or 2. Everyone just wants more money, and people are willing to pay. So who's to blame?

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u/act_normal 8h ago

Oh I see, didn't know that. Thank you for the explanation.

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u/SpinShine-LEDSlipMat 8h ago

The person paying the tip is the one to blame 

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u/WolfgangAddams 7h ago

It really depends on the shop. Some tattoo artists split their commissions. Other places have the artists pay a set amount per month for their station and supplies.

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u/RyMcCloud 8h ago

If they're running a sole proprietorship they technically don't

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u/TheLurkingMenace 8h ago

Unless it's their own shop, they only get paid a commission. Which isn't a lot.

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u/act_normal 6h ago

gotcha

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u/Jsc_TG 🎃Happy Spooktober🎃 8h ago

Shop around some more. Not all places are like that, i dont think my shop enforces a tip requirement and prices are reasonable to me at least. $500 for a touch up sounds like a lot but heavily depends on the work.

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u/xZOMBIETAGx 8h ago

I literally have never had an artist charge to touch up if it was their own work.

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u/Novaer 39m ago

Dude I said that if a tattoo takes under an hour to do then it should never be more than $200 MAX and people devoured me for saying that.

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u/OverloadedSofa 8h ago

What?! Your quote also had their expected TIP?!?

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u/Killer_Ex_Con 8h ago

Thats crazy my artist said she will do my touch ups for free.

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u/North_Sugar_9185 7h ago

We do touch ups for free wtf?

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u/FiddleThruTheFlowers 8h ago

That's insane to me. I have more inked skin than blank skin and have for a while now. Touch ups within a year of the tattoo being completed have always been included unless you fucked up the healing (e.g. they can tell you pulled ink out while scratching). My usual artist will do touch ups for free on any of his tattoos as needed when I happen to be there anyway, but I've also been going to him for years at this point, so it's more like a maintaining a good business relationship with a stable client thing.

I've also never had an artist balk if I didn't tip. Most of them explicitly say that tips are appreciated, but not expected because they're aware that tattoos are already expensive. What other people are saying about artists expecting 25% or whatever just seems sketchy to me. Set your prices to what you want in that case rather than undercharging and expecting the client to make up for the rest.

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u/Fantastic-Mud8765 8h ago

A real artist isn’t going to grief you over a tip, they know people aren’t just made of money. Be glad there are artists petty and greedy enough to add that to their quote, so you can avoid them.

From a heavily tattoed person with work from many artists.

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u/Pure-Season-4153 7h ago

You don’t have to tip 25%.

I’m happy with anything, and even nothing is fine. Though if you do choose to tip well, I will move the moon for you! Lol. Most people tip $20 on average.

Signed, a tattoo artist.

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u/YourPaleRabbit 7h ago

This is bananas bonkers unprofessional and it makes me so madddd.

I’m a tattoo artist, and I turned myself inside out to buy the shop I opened with my mentor out of her portion when she moved out of state JUST so I could have peace from how badly so many artists are taking the dip in economy.

I live in a HCOL area, and when things started getting tight, knowing my clients are mostly young people, I started adjusting my pricing to what “worked for both of us”. And I’d cut a deal if someone is struggling and really could use that boost in autonomy. Because like… if I’m not working I’m not happy, and my clients aren’t happy, and in my version of a perfect world art and money wouldn’t ever mix. I WANT to finish cool tattoos. I’m a good artist; not phenomenal, but I worked hard to be good. And the kid ringing up your French fries can’t afford a $1200 tap. I digress. But I had a few aggro old heads tell me that I “don’t respect myself or the trade” (that dude matched me 2mo later), another told me they’re “displacing” that loss (tricking their fucking clients, be honest) by “changing their deposit to a non refundable drawing fee” or “including tip in quote” (what your gender nonspecific dude did). Your artist literally purposefully gave you the tip as a percentage quote instead of a solid number hoping you wouldn’t do the math or question it. Like so many artists chose to try to claw-in-to whoever they still had and squeeze them for more, instead of stretching out or trying new things.

My heart goes out to the great artists I know struggling. Getting to touch stability after a life of chaos is intoxicating lolol. Artists are disproportionately mentally ill; and I’m not saying all tattoo artists are (there’s at least one dude in my art collective who went through art school and is so so stable and lovely, I’m stealing his dad), but a good fuckin majority of us. The industry is also toxic as shit with a long history of shops taking full on 50% of anything an artist makes (standard in my area unless you have negotiating point). Theres still tons of tormenting apprentices, harassing women, throwing a “cool kid” attitude. I lost it last year on a dude who tried to blacklist a random girl from every shop he could… because she wouldn’t sleep with him… in the year of our lord, 2026. So in the face of like… the whole world changing around us? Why? Where? The audacity? I’m just flabbergasted that hypothetically a whole group of people with art as extra lense to digest the world through, are just digging in their heels instead of moving with it. Idk. I keep telling people we need a renaissance, but I need artists to rise above the petty stuff for that to happen.

Obviously I’m very frustrated, so I hope this made sense. Sorry for the rant. And before anyone says anything I don’t know your artist; I’m guessing at their tactic based on what other people tell me they’re doing. Also not every artist is doing these kinds of things. There’s a lot of discussion in tattoo artist spaces right now about how one good thing that could come from all of this, is the industry shaking off the people who were never in it for love of the craft. Copy paste walk in shops don’t need to be on every corner. There’s also a lot of artists I know who would be adjusting their workflow and life balance, like I am, but can not because they’re stuck in a shop that doesn’t care about them. I’ve started pulling people from my collective to do community work with me; like I figure when I’m not tattooing I could still use my art to help people. But a good half of them are mandatory sat in an empty shop trying to snag tourists to get $20 flash clients. So it’s not all on the artists either. It’s a big mess. Sorry again for the wall of text xD I’m going to stop now otherwise I’ll go on forever about classism in the industry or something. I hope everyone has a nice day :0 get a sweet treat.

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u/its_yer_dad 7h ago

Asking for a 25% tip upfront isn’t really a tip then is it?

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u/Icy_Association2975 8h ago

Artists being political is why id pay double that to remove mine. When I let them tat me they seemed nice then they start screaming words of hatred all over the internet and I hate myself for ever funding them

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u/omeomorfismo 8h ago

a tip? whats wrong with you muricans?

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u/obstreperousRex 8h ago

I have never paid for a touch up. Your artist should be doing that for nothing.