They shouldn't* they can, will, and do all the time. It's not hard to find articles of people going to prison for using a firearm in defense after an unlawful entry.
And side note, if a cop can mag dump you with almost zero consequences just because they think you have a gun, you don't have the right to own a gun.
Blaming the Second Amendment for bad police behavior is a false equivalency, especially when Castle Doctrine laws successfully protect thousands of homeowners who use legal firearms to stop intruders every year. Nice try.
Someone needs to look up Ryan Whitaker. Go ahead and try to hold a gun when the police show up because you were playing video games a little too loud for your neighbor. See how that goes for you.
Black Air Force officer got shot dead in his home (don’t remember exact details but this is very recent) because he had a gun in his hand (pointing down to the floor and his other hand raised up) when he opened the door because the officer refused to identify himself when asked who it was, and then hid from the peekhole prompting the guy to get a gun in the first place. All over a noise complaint of some sorts. Deputy walked Scott free despite the sheriff department of the officer firing him for the whole thing.
Having a gun sure saved him, right? The cop was of course the one and only one responsible for this situation, but the more relaxed the gun laws are, the more trigger happy people get. Especially those with an ounce of authority.
There are also lots of road rage fueled shootings usually committed with legally obtained guns. According to data compiled by Everytown Research & Policy and the Gun Violence Archive, an individual is shot (either injured or killed) in a road rage incident roughly every 18 hours in the United States.
So many school shootings. So many other mass shootings besides that. Leading cause of death for children in the us is school shootings btw, most of which again are through legally obtained guns.
Ive said this before: Giving up your guns means permanently outsourcing your safety to the state and trusting that criminals who never follow the law anyway will suddenly decide to play fair. Guns just dont go away, the criminals & cops are the only ones with it now.
But you’re implying that more guns are necessary to protect yourself from rising gun violence. Less guns in AU hasn’t translated to more gun violence. There will always be a problem with gun violence as there is no perfect solution, but it certainly doesn’t seem to be a big or growing problem in AU. Do you think gun violence will go down further or go back up if they have more guns? Or are you saying the two things are completely unrelated?
The two things are actually unrelated, since the US and Australia saw the exact same massive drop in violent crime over the last few decades, showing that crime rates track with broader social trends rather than how many guns are in circulation.
You really should stop watching the news and start thinking for yourself.
Not saying you are wrong but what’s the definition of a “mass shooting”? I live in Chicago and sometimes 20+ get shot in a night and it will be 4-6 victims all done with illegal guns by gangs. I would consider 4 victims and up a mass shooting.
No they are pointing out the fact that after a mass shooting took place Australia took measures to prevent future events. While the states just shrugs their shoulders and says nothing can be done.
This was predicted in 1991 by Bill Cooper. School shootings in the push to ban guns. Do some homework. America has a mental health problem. Responsible owner are not shooting up places. Its careless parents and unhealthy minds.
"Do some homework" maybe you should and take note of countries that put stricter restrictions in place and how swiftly the mass shootings dropped. Weird how a country that jerks off to guns also has the most mass shootings by a landslide.
Just say "fuck off, I like guns". It's not a good argument but it's literally the only one you have. Every data point says less guns in the population makes the population safer. I say that as a gun owner.
Giving up your guns means permanently outsourcing your safety to the state and trusting that criminals who never follow the law anyway will suddenly decide to play fair. You cannot be this dumb.
Good thing we have enough of a robust social services saftey net that people don't need to break into houses to get their basic needs met. Weirdly that stops more crimes than the country having more guns than people.
Franklin was using this argument on behalf of the government’s ability to organize a collective defense in response to crisis. The gun-related death America is seeing right now is a crisis. To deny the reasonable curtailment of gun rights in fear of broader government overreach into the public’s privacy or security is stubborn. What I would argue for is universal background checks, red flag laws, and prohibitions for high risk groups like domestic abusers and convinced felons.
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u/Puzzleheaded_Neat763 9h ago
I’m too Australian for this