r/SipsTea • u/ExactlySorta • 14h ago

SMH Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff to Vladimir Putin today: “You talk so much about Trump being a humanitarian, you are a humanitarian also, sir. And I salute that. I commend you.”

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u/Maximum-Formal-6672 10h ago

No, that is a lie. A vile lie, at that.

Just because an individual lives in a virtual world and believes it to be real, that doesn’t make it real.

By that logic, one could even justify a serial killer, simply because he believes he is doing good.

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u/keeper_of_the_donkey 10h ago

And that is exactly the point he is making. He even said this confuses people like us. He said what he said, and he was correct.

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u/bushsniffa 10h ago

No, they have agency and can tell the truth.

This is the ridiculous and enabling lie: "Trump and his followers can only work with what they consider the acceptable truth. I.e. the truth that they've been given and are incapable of doubting" 

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u/keeper_of_the_donkey 9h ago

We're not speaking on terms of normal people here. We're talking on terms of narcissists like Trump. Trump believes in his head that what he is saying is true. That means that he is going to perform actions based on his truth. It has absolutely nothing to do with the actual truth. This is the part I think people are missing.

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u/bushsniffa 9h ago edited 9h ago

Whatever "normal" people are... What you are saying for trump, is literally true for everybody. It's not the responsibility of other people to coddle one towards reality. What a dogwater excuse for shit behavior. 

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u/glassy_paddle 9h ago

Normal people == people without a significant personality disorder. Personality orders are identifiable and officially categorized: https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/personality-disorders/what-are-personality-disorders

OP here isn't saying we should allow it or excuse it, but it helps to understand where Trump's behavior starts. If you've never encountered a true narcissist in your life, you are lucky. They are genuinely terrible.

I'm not a psychologist/psychiatrist, so it's unclear if Trump is narcissist or sociopathic, or both. He seems to be both IMO.

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u/bushsniffa 9h ago

This has gotten a bit out of hand, and thank you for you comment. They are still lying. And no wishy-washy no it's a falsehood because they don't intend to deceive. Bullshit grand station. 

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u/glassy_paddle 9h ago

Oh I agree 100%. It's truly terrible that we have a president with severe personality disorders. And we need to make sure they are all held to account.