r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/ArcherVisible5866 • 5h ago

Video New controversial Ad in Ireland about consent

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u/BLYNDLUCK 5h ago

Ok this is absolutely an honest question. Are you referring to the people who think those add is a good thing or the people who don’t think it’s a good thing?

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u/Flewizzle 5h ago

the sensitive people are the ones who dont want a hug from their family

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u/JurassicParkCSR 4h ago

Please don't touch people against their will.

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u/Flewizzle 4h ago

Equating a standard hug from a grandparent to some kind of sinister violation is a massive reach. Context exists. If we are at the point where we are using the language of assault to describe a grandmother greeting her grandchild, we have completely lost the plot on what normal family affection looks like.

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u/lowbatteries 4h ago

Nobody is saying arrest these old folks for attempting to give a hug. You can teach people to be polite without saying arrest everyone who isn't polite.

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u/Flewizzle 4h ago

Literally nobody actually thinks swat teams are coming for granny lol. The point is the government is spending time and money running national ad campaigns that pathologize normal family affection. Treating a loving hug from a grandparent like some kind of HR violation that needs a verbal contract is completely out of touch with reality.

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u/FlyOne6324 4h ago

ad campaigns that pathologize normal family affection

It doesn't seem to pathologize normal family affection at all, though. If it did, it wouldn't have shown that first kid immediately throwing himself at them gleefully.

It's simply about some people not wanting to be touched and other people who ought to respect that.

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u/Flewizzle 4h ago

Lol the fact that they feel the need to run a national campaign to lecture grandparents on getting verbal consent from their own grandkids is the definition of pathologizing it. They are taking a totally normal family dynamic (a kid being grumpy and a grandparent wanting a hug) and turning it into a clinical HR safety lesson. its deranged.

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u/FlyOne6324 4h ago

(a kid being grumpy and a grandparent wanting a hug)

Except that's a huge assumption.

I don't know if I'm projecting, man, I'm very affectionate myself but I often struggle with physical contact from men even if they're family due to a past SA.

Not most of the cases out there? For sure, thankfully. But also, it's nice that you can just politely step out of it and deny kisses or hugs without having to explain yourself.

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u/Flewizzle 4h ago

I'm genuinely sorry you had to go through that, and in your specific context, establishing strict physical boundaries makes complete sense. But as you noted, that is the exception, not the rule. The issue here is public policy.

We shouldn't be designing national ad campaigns and general societal baselines around severe trauma.

When you try to mandate clinical consent rules for the 99% of healthy, functioning families just to accommodate the worst-case scenarios, you end up pathologizing normal human affection for everyone else.

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u/HedonismBot90 4h ago

Is that not the point of the ad lad? That its not assault, its a conversation and it can be awkward but important. I think you might be taking things too far in response to other people taking the point too far. As for the other part, it isint an assault thing, it just might facilitate assault later in life.

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u/Flewizzle 4h ago

Yeah exactly but that logic assumes a child cant tell the difference between a loving relative and a genuine threat. treating your grandmother with the same clinical boundary-setting as a stranger doesnt make kids safer it just makes them disconnected. we shouldn't have to raise kids in a hyper sterile bubble where every hug needs a verbal contract just because it might facilitate something decades down the line. its preposterous.

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u/HedonismBot90 4h ago

Nah I think youre taking the thought process too far, its not about at that moment. People can be uncomfortable but they might still do it, this ad is for grandparents and relatives to take on board, that a conversation is always a goid thing to have. At worst I think the point being made by some above is that people might become numb to the idea that being touched when youre uncomfortable has be gotten over that it can lead to unwelcome sexual boundaries being crossed with a partner in later life.

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u/Maurirz 4h ago

Agree