r/Damnthatsinteresting • u/ArcherVisible5866 • 4h ago

Video New controversial Ad in Ireland about consent

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u/BLYNDLUCK 4h ago

Ok this is absolutely an honest question. Are you referring to the people who think those add is a good thing or the people who don’t think it’s a good thing?

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u/Accomplished-City484 4h ago

The ambiguity makes it a great comment, because they have both camps agreeing

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u/SaleAggressive9202 3h ago

i play both sides so i always come out on top

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u/cromulentenigmas1 3h ago

Unexpected IASIP

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u/Hard-Pore-Corn 3h ago

Judging from recent experiences, i can surely say that appeasement works guys!

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u/BitcoinMD 59m ago

I think we can all agree that we know which side the commenter is really on 😉

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u/Tsu_Dho_Namh 3h ago

They said people are getting too sensitive. Implying people weren't too sensitive before.

Since hugs from grandparents didn't need consent before, it stands to reason they're referring to the people who think this ad is a good thing.

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u/HyperlexicEpiphany 3h ago

Media literacy and context clues be like

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u/thisdesignup 2h ago

They needed consent before too, they just didn't ask.

There's plenty of jokes in media about unwanted attention from grandparents kissing on their grandkids, pinching their cheeks, hugging them, etc.

The whole reason consent is a topic now is because people didn't like it before.

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u/secretaccount94 1h ago

They mean society didn’t expect consent from kids before.

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u/lana_silver 1h ago

pinching their cheeks

That's such an interesting example, by the way. It's a thing that's generally not done any more, because everybody hated it, and now we are more conscious.

Just like we're more conscious of mental health in general, and we get therapy instead of committing suicide, and so on. In my father's age range the number of suicides is crazy high. I know of like 4 guys who killed themselves (born in the 40s to 60s), and I know only of one person who killed herself who was born after 1980 (my own age range). Turns out that not mistreating everybody all day long has positive effects on mental health.

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u/Tsu_Dho_Namh 2h ago

Oh I know they didn't like it, they're kids. They don't know any better. Kids don't like going to school, cleaning their room, or going to bed either, plenty of jokes in media about those too. But they still have to do it anyways because until they grow up they have to be forced to act like an adult.

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u/BLYNDLUCK 3h ago

You don’t think people getting their panties in a twist about an ad are being a little sensitive?

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u/HyperlexicEpiphany 3h ago

It’s not an ad, it’s a PSA

/s but only a little bit. nothing is being sold

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u/Tsu_Dho_Namh 2h ago

Are their panties in a twist? Asking if people are getting "maybe, too sensitive" seems a relevant and pertinent question.

If the question offends you, then I guess the answer's right there.

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u/BLYNDLUCK 2h ago

I wasn’t offended at all. I wasn’t disparaging the question either. I was literally asking which party they were directing their “too sensitive” comment towards. Because depending who you ask, everyone is a snowflake.

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u/MoopLoom 2h ago

Those who say "if that offends you" when no one around then was showing any sign of offense, are in fact, too sensitive.

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u/coffee_nights 1h ago

I think both sides are psychos. Its very obvious consent is important but also theres ppl in here projecting their trauma onto other ppl. Either way imo this ad is incredibly stupid. They could've talked about consent but instead made the POV of the grandparents like they were monsters lol.

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u/TheMadManiac 4h ago

Very obviously the pro ad people. This is ridiculous.

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u/JurassicParkCSR 3h ago

Please don't touch people against their will.

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u/ncm0229 3h ago

Random people, sure, even people you know, especially if it’s been established that hugs or a pat on the back is a no-go is understandable.

But my kids are getting hugs every time I see them.

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u/lowbatteries 3h ago

... which maybe isn't going to be very often once they turn 18, with that attitude.

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u/ncm0229 3h ago

Funny to assume I don’t already have children over 18 who hug me every time I see them.

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u/TheMadManiac 3h ago

Please go away

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u/king_hutton 3h ago

Is that what people say to you before you touch them without consent?

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u/TheMadManiac 3h ago

Victimize yourself a little harder.

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u/king_hutton 3h ago

Go cry about consent with Brock Turner

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u/InfiniteLuxGiven 3h ago

You’ve now compared giving a hug with rape mate, what a disgusting comparison to make.

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u/BLYNDLUCK 3h ago

You don’t think the people offended by the add maybe a little too sensitive?

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u/Flewizzle 4h ago

the sensitive people are the ones who dont want a hug from their family

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u/JurassicParkCSR 3h ago

Please don't touch people against their will.

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u/Acceptable-Post733 3h ago

Okay. But what if I don’t understand consent? Is there maybe a commercial that could maybe inform me of the appropriate way to act in this situation?

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u/Flewizzle 3h ago

Careful, if you watch the ad too many times you might accidentally forget how to act like a normal human being altogether.

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u/Flewizzle 3h ago

Equating a standard hug from a grandparent to some kind of sinister violation is a massive reach. Context exists. If we are at the point where we are using the language of assault to describe a grandmother greeting her grandchild, we have completely lost the plot on what normal family affection looks like.

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u/lowbatteries 3h ago

Nobody is saying arrest these old folks for attempting to give a hug. You can teach people to be polite without saying arrest everyone who isn't polite.

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u/Flewizzle 3h ago

Literally nobody actually thinks swat teams are coming for granny lol. The point is the government is spending time and money running national ad campaigns that pathologize normal family affection. Treating a loving hug from a grandparent like some kind of HR violation that needs a verbal contract is completely out of touch with reality.

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u/FlyOne6324 3h ago

ad campaigns that pathologize normal family affection

It doesn't seem to pathologize normal family affection at all, though. If it did, it wouldn't have shown that first kid immediately throwing himself at them gleefully.

It's simply about some people not wanting to be touched and other people who ought to respect that.

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u/Flewizzle 3h ago

Lol the fact that they feel the need to run a national campaign to lecture grandparents on getting verbal consent from their own grandkids is the definition of pathologizing it. They are taking a totally normal family dynamic (a kid being grumpy and a grandparent wanting a hug) and turning it into a clinical HR safety lesson. its deranged.

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u/FlyOne6324 3h ago

(a kid being grumpy and a grandparent wanting a hug)

Except that's a huge assumption.

I don't know if I'm projecting, man, I'm very affectionate myself but I often struggle with physical contact from men even if they're family due to a past SA.

Not most of the cases out there? For sure, thankfully. But also, it's nice that you can just politely step out of it and deny kisses or hugs without having to explain yourself.

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u/Flewizzle 2h ago

I'm genuinely sorry you had to go through that, and in your specific context, establishing strict physical boundaries makes complete sense. But as you noted, that is the exception, not the rule. The issue here is public policy.

We shouldn't be designing national ad campaigns and general societal baselines around severe trauma.

When you try to mandate clinical consent rules for the 99% of healthy, functioning families just to accommodate the worst-case scenarios, you end up pathologizing normal human affection for everyone else.

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u/HedonismBot90 3h ago

Is that not the point of the ad lad? That its not assault, its a conversation and it can be awkward but important. I think you might be taking things too far in response to other people taking the point too far. As for the other part, it isint an assault thing, it just might facilitate assault later in life.

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u/Flewizzle 3h ago

Yeah exactly but that logic assumes a child cant tell the difference between a loving relative and a genuine threat. treating your grandmother with the same clinical boundary-setting as a stranger doesnt make kids safer it just makes them disconnected. we shouldn't have to raise kids in a hyper sterile bubble where every hug needs a verbal contract just because it might facilitate something decades down the line. its preposterous.

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u/HedonismBot90 2h ago

Nah I think youre taking the thought process too far, its not about at that moment. People can be uncomfortable but they might still do it, this ad is for grandparents and relatives to take on board, that a conversation is always a goid thing to have. At worst I think the point being made by some above is that people might become numb to the idea that being touched when youre uncomfortable has be gotten over that it can lead to unwelcome sexual boundaries being crossed with a partner in later life.

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u/Maurirz 3h ago

Agree

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u/m007368 2h ago

Kalshi bets are live! Team Hug or Team Nope!

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u/Max-Phallus 3h ago

What do you think?

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u/BLYNDLUCK 3h ago

Both sides are absolutely too sensitive. You don’t need an ad campaign about not hugging grandma, and if you don’t like the ad you don’t need to clutch your pearls over it.

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u/Max-Phallus 3h ago

Yeah I agree