Its funny they get clowned for this, when it wasn't a teaser; just a "Hey starfield is first, but yes then elder scrolls, we aren't abandoning the game series"
Unfortunately Bethesda is like RockStar, they can shit out the same game for over a decade on a different console and they have customers dumb enough to buy it again and again. Otherwise they’d probably shut down too.
Rockstar actually builds innovative technology and games though.
Naughty Dog released TLOU2 at the same time RDR2 came out and R* are much closer to releasing GTA than ND is Intergalactic. 6+ Years later and RDR2 is still the most technically impressive game I've ever played.
Rockstar does anything but innovations. Their games are incredibly stale and formulaic in terms of gameplay, they are just elevated massively by enormous budgets, graphics, animations, massive worlds, and fantastic writing in terms of RDR2.
GTA 5 had dogshit writing and story but it didn't matter since it farms kids and insecure people in the online mode.
Pushing graphical tech forward IS innovation though. The fact that RDR2 came out on Xbox One is nothing short of a technological miracle, same with GTA VI on PS5 from what we've seen.
What innovations are you looking for? Because as far as AAA games go there's not much to "innovate" in terms of gameplay for a game like GTA other than expanding extremely wide in terms of a variety of shit to do and have it all be cohesive.
Also, something like the greet/antagonize system was pretty innovative as a gameplay mechanic IMO.
GTA IV and RDR2 were both groundbreaking tech at the time, so the whole "Burj Khalifa" narrative kinda falls flat on its face.
Also, there's countless companies who can throw an obscene amount of money. TTWO only has a $32B market cap which is peanuts compared to MSFT & Sony. It takes genuine innovation/talent to weave together ~6,000 employees worth of features, upgrades and mechanics into a single cohesive new product.
Rockstar also took one of the greatest physics engines ever created and shot it behind the woodshed, they've literally destroyed more innovation than bethesda has created over the last 20 years
How so? Are you arguing that GTA IV's over the top Looney Tunes ragdoll was so stripped down in RDR2 that it "destroyed innovation"? The ragdolls are just as good, if not better in RDR2 vs GTAIV from what I remember.
Or is this more about driving mechanics/physics? Which again, hard to say that it was "shot behind a woodshed" when we're just looking at a single different iteration that was made with the same Xbox 360 constraints?
I was more referring to the original implementation of Euphoria in GTA4, specifically the dynamic reactions of NPCs and animation cycling. Car physics were way too loose but the reactivity when you shoot an NPC and how they interact to disruptions was truly the best the industry has ever seen. Shooting someone in the shoulder would have them grab that spot and continue either running or fighting, or getting drunk would have nico grabbing for surfaces to catch him when he falls. Conversely GTA5 and RTDR2 has way less contextual dynamism and often looked like deliberate flopping and there are no attempts to brace catch or react to what is happening, they sort of just flop like they're in toy story. Euphoria was neutered heavily in GTA5 and RDR2 and the dynamism in 4, though flawed in some ways, was leagues ahead of what we see even today in other titles. It's a shame because Euphoria has a ton of potential and it sounded at the time like they had to dial it back to leave processing headroom in other areas of RDR2 and 5.
Heres a quick video showing the differences between 4 and 5
Yeah the real issue with Rockstar is they’re just a shit company. Very anti consumer and poor working conditions historically. People just keep buying their games because they aren’t flops like the rest of the AAA industry.
Each time they find a new platform to release skyrim on, ES6 gets pushed out a few more years. We'll never see it if they start releasing skyrim on your smart fridge.
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u/Johnclark38 7h ago
Can we agree that dropping a teaser 6 years ago and still saying its in early development is a moronic move that devs need to stop pulling.