r/aiwars • • 5h ago

I'd avoid "AI Cant

Because AI absolutely can.

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u/AbbyTheOneAndOnly 5h ago

going to that sub expecting good takes will leave you disappointed lmao

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

lol, the algorithm serves it up and I often lack self-control! Apparently, I'm respectful enough to avoid a ban. A mild critique of some pro mods don't be so quick to ban. respectful discussion is healthy.

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u/random_bug3562 5h ago

Ai can’t make accurate oegopsid cephalopods 

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

LOL, I can't even pronounce oegopsid cephalopods, oh and I think it's fair to say that as we have only seen oegopsid cephalopods in fossil's humans can't really make an accurate one either.

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u/random_bug3562 5h ago

Those are literally pelagic squids, definitely still existing, for example the northern shortfin squid

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u/random_bug3562 5h ago

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

I love learning stuff!

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u/random_bug3562 5h ago

lol I love squids

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

I've had some really good calamari. but I don't think thats what you mean at all!

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u/random_bug3562 4h ago

Lol I like eating squid as well

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

I wouldn't have the slightest idea if this was reasonably accurate

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u/random_bug3562 4h ago

It's pretty good, there's a few wrong anatomy details like the lack of a secondary eyelid, and only 8 arms

At first glance, it could fool someone that it's real

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u/Lucario-Mega 5h ago

The second pic actually looks neat

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u/ShagaONhan 5h ago edited 5h ago

Another anti was saying that a way to detect AI is when multiple different art styles are mixed because AI don't know how to be coherent.

They just spew random stuff as argument hopping they'll hit something.

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u/Prestigious-Lead-806 5h ago

Artist here :

Thats complete Bullshit

I LOVE mixing stuff! even if it comes in minor things, and im a begginer for fuck sake! imagine how much mixing an actual good artist can do!

and trust me, ive seen alot of really good artists make really cool art style mixes, its beautiful.

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u/Valuable-Progress-87 5h ago

i cant lie, im a little impressed. not that impressed, just a little

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u/MrBalderus 5h ago

Were those supposed to be the same cat or two different ones?

(Also, I love when multiple styles or media are combined in the same image)

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u/Prestigious-Lead-806 5h ago

(Also, I love when multiple styles or media are combined in the same image)

can we be friends withought introduction?

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

Oh! The same cat. I didn't consider that. They could have been, they also could have been one of my actual cats or both of them.

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u/nastyforehead 4h ago

I see a two big problems with this,

  1. I am a little dyslexic so this may just be me but some of those signatures seem completely unreadable.

  2. The type of background is different, the ai's version is sort of a more rustic design featuring multiple colors but the art one features just red in different brightness and slight tone shifts.

That's just to say, you didn't prove them entirely wrong, though your point still has merit (and this is me just pointing out differences from what the OOP was saying, not errors in the ai's work)

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 4h ago

I'd argue a signature isn't classroom cursive and it's quite ordinary for them to be illegible.

The background, your point is valid, but it's a language issue of mine rather than an ai issue. I simply don't know how to describe what I see with that. Sampling his background would have been trivial, but would ruin my point entirely

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u/SlapHappyDude 5h ago

Some antis apparently don't realize img2img is a thing and think AI can only do one prompt?

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u/SlapHappyDude 5h ago

Or the fact that some AI artists know how to use Photoshop (or at least canva. Or Microsoft paint)

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u/Kevdog824_ 5h ago

In all fairness I think they were talking about AI choosing to do it, rather than its ability to do it when prompted to do so

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

An interesting take... the thing is AI doesn't choose to do anything, it's prompted. That is entirely the point.

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u/Hinx_art 4h ago

Type make an image and its making all visual decisions, pretty sure that the majority of people who are very anti without any nuance are just seeing the 1 and done template type prompt ai images that are produced on mass by people.

The quality gap between ai images that have no human direction or concept behind them, and ones that have lots of direction and concept behind them is much closer than art made directly so people don't see the decisions, effort or skill gap between them.

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u/Kevdog824_ 2h ago

I used “choosing” in a colloquial sense. I’m aware that AI doesn’t very literally “choose” something

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 2h ago

The original post says "No AI could do this," then repeatedly uses "NEVER" to describe what AI supposedly can't do.

I understand you're trying to give the original poster some grace in interpreting what they meant. But then you frame it as AI making a choice, and now you're asking me to extend that same grace to your wording.

That's fine, but at some point, we should be able to acknowledge that the original claim was simply wrong.

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u/LostMyKeysInTheFade 5h ago

Yeah, nah, if your entire argument is "AI can't" just pack up and go home. If it can't, it just can't yet.

And if that's not your whole argument, drop the weak stuff and focus on the parts that'll still matter when model capabilities improve.

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u/Prestigious-Lead-806 5h ago

why is cat in portuguese (or spanish) tho

also this isent a sub for posting art, goober why u posting ur ai art

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

Spanish and Chinese because it's more difficult than English... the image is a demonstration of capability to refute the falsehood of "AI Can't"

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u/Prestigious-Lead-806 5h ago

oh okay. makes sense i guess

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u/Prestigious-Lead-806 5h ago

i love how im getting downvoted for asking a question lmao

im not saying cat being in portuguese is bad, im simply questioning ops line of thinking, as its a lenguage i interest myself in

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u/Witty-Artisan001 5h ago

You ain't this slow, surely?

You got downvoted for the second part of the comment.

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u/Prestigious-Lead-806 5h ago

no goober

im talking about the SECOND comment

of me just saying "oh makes sense i guess"

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u/Witty-Artisan001 5h ago

"I love how I'm getting downvoted for asking a question lmao"

"asking a question"

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u/Prestigious-Lead-806 5h ago

What?

what are you ON about??

i literaly asked a question n was a bit mean about it

thats literaly all i did

sure, downvotes deserved!

but why the fuck are people downvoting a comment simply aknowloging ops response and saying "oh okay makes sense!"

yk?

like, that comes to show how hivemindy this sub is, no??..

also, chill with the ai images, im neutral, idfc about them

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

I thought they were honest questions. I can see how they might be interpreted in a negative way. Personally, I only down vote blankly unconstructive comments

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u/Prestigious-Lead-806 5h ago

respectable.

idk why i was rude there, problably becouse i thought this was some sort of bait or something??
idk

my apologies tho, il try to refrain from doing it again.

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u/LunaticFlandre295 5h ago

Nice one! Also, if you may know, what does that Kanjii means? Is it the one for Neko?

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u/Jealous-Associate-41 5h ago

猫 (māo) is Simplified Chinese for cat.

However, there's an interesting detail:

  • Simplified Chinese: 猫
  • Traditional Chinese: 貓
  • Japanese: 猫 (neko)

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u/Prestigious-Lead-806 5h ago

woah, neat

thanks im saving this!

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u/Bra--ket 5h ago

Apparently, yes, and you led me to find something incredibly interesting: the Japanese kanji for "neko" and the Chinese hanzi for "mao" are written the same way.

I just learned the words "kanji" and "hanzi" are also written the exact same way... this is so interesting. Thank you for making me find this out. I had no idea they had this many symbols in common. The phonetics are completely different.

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u/random_bug3562 5h ago

kanji is borrowed characters from chinese