Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff to Vladimir Putin today: “You talk so much about Trump being a humanitarian, you are a humanitarian also, sir. And I salute that. I commend you.”

[u/ExactlySorta]

[u/Leftunders]

Having lived with people like Trump all my life, it's not a lie. At least not in the common meaning of the word like you and I understand it.

A narcissist believes that their own belief makes a thing the truth. And no amount of proof or reasoning can make them deny "their" truth.

Trump himself is the perfect example. His recent statement about the supposed "deal" went something like "They've made a deal because I said they've made a deal." Questioning him goes nowhere because in his mind, it's not a lie- because HE said it, that makes it true.

This confuses people like you & me. We have normal reasoning ability and can see the objective truth before us. Trump and his followers can only work with what they consider the acceptable truth. I.e. the truth that they've been given and are incapable of doubting.

[u/Maximum-Formal-6672 → u/Leftunders]

No, that is a lie. A vile lie, at that.

Just because an individual lives in a virtual world and believes it to be real, that doesn’t make it real.

By that logic, one could even justify a serial killer, simply because he believes he is doing good.

[u/Leftunders → u/Maximum-Formal-6672]

You might be conflating the concept of a "falsehood," which is "a statement that contradicts a fact or facts" with a "lie" which is "a falsehood made with the intent to deceive."

You can make a falsehood without intent to deceive. I once told my mechanic that the oil in my car needed to be changed when I did not know that my wife had taken it to the same dealership for an oil change a couple of days before. I did not intend to deceive the service tech about the state of my vehicle's lubricants. That made my statement "it needs an oil change" a falsehood. But not a lie, even though I intended for him to believe me.

If I had returned the next day with the same car in the same general condition and made the same statement, it would have been a lie- assuming I wanted to convince the service tech that it was the truth.

Trump's belief that the deal had been stuck was the same as my belief that the car's oil needed changing. The difference is that his belief came from his narcissism causing him to equate "I said it" with "it's the truth," and my mistaken belief came from my inability to pay attention to anything my wife says.

Granted, there are situations where the person should have known that their statement was a falsehood, which would blur the line between "falsehood" and "lie," but those don't apply to narcissists because to them it doesn't matter whether what they say is true or false. Only that you believe and comply. To them, their statement is still true, for the same reason: they said so.

[u/Twat_Features → u/Leftunders]

This man is obsessed with “cock warming” and semen and posts stories about it, lol.

Take nothing seriously. A lot of words for no point.