Trump’s special envoy Steve Witkoff to Vladimir Putin today: “You talk so much about Trump being a humanitarian, you are a humanitarian also, sir. And I salute that. I commend you.”

[u/ExactlySorta]

[u/Leftunders]

Having lived with people like Trump all my life, it's not a lie. At least not in the common meaning of the word like you and I understand it.

A narcissist believes that their own belief makes a thing the truth. And no amount of proof or reasoning can make them deny "their" truth.

Trump himself is the perfect example. His recent statement about the supposed "deal" went something like "They've made a deal because I said they've made a deal." Questioning him goes nowhere because in his mind, it's not a lie- because HE said it, that makes it true.

This confuses people like you & me. We have normal reasoning ability and can see the objective truth before us. Trump and his followers can only work with what they consider the acceptable truth. I.e. the truth that they've been given and are incapable of doubting.

[u/Maximum-Formal-6672 → u/Leftunders]

No, that is a lie. A vile lie, at that.

Just because an individual lives in a virtual world and believes it to be real, that doesn’t make it real.

By that logic, one could even justify a serial killer, simply because he believes he is doing good.

[u/Prajnamarga → u/Maximum-Formal-6672]

Technically it's not a lie. It's bullshit. A liar cares about the truth and tries to deceive you. A bullshitter tries to persuade you with no regard for the truth (they neither know nor care what the truth is).

These men don't give a crap about truth.

But look at the three guys watching him suck Putin's dick. They cannot believe it.

[u/broguequery → u/Prajnamarga]

It is literally lying.

But you are correct that they don't care about the truth.