Humanity does something cool, but its elon musks company: š¤¬š
seriously, can people not just appreciate the engineering that went into this for a second without defaulting to "elons company did it so it must be bad/worthless?"
Japan is amazing though. I love the innovations that Tesla has achieved as well.
Anyone that acts like this isn't amazing doesn't understand a literal vehicle was in the air and flew down with little mini jets and landed safely. That's.... Not something any average idiot could achieve.
I'm meaning in the literal *watch it with your eyes in real life* sense. Also, that game wasn't designed by the players. They're just enjoying the fruits of the labor of some actual high IQ people that helped design that game with realistic physics.
And to add to this, the roadster demo suggests that like much of Lockheed's business, this really only has a military purpose. Another comment somewhere said "tumbler from the Christopher Nolan Batman series.
I don't have to like Elon (i don't hate him though) to be amazed by everything he does, seeing the first time his rockets came back from space and landed on specific landing pads gave me goosebumps.
His politics sucks, but he is great in technological innovation. This car will be a part of safety features like for example accidentally fallen to the cliff and those thruster can save you.
People seem to miss this but Elon likely had little to do with most of the innovation in any of the companies he owns. He did not make Tesla, Space X, or the Boring Company he just owns them. Steve Jobs was more involved with what apple created than what Elon has done. His first all his design was the Cyber truck and that thing was a disaster.
Still those engineers won't make anything without the capital provided by Elon. Innovation requires capital and resource like they can't rely on theoretical science. You people... are so insufferable
Then donāt give him personal credit for inventing something. I donāt know many people who think heās the guy doing the work, but he is definitely one of the guys making the decisions that make these things happen.
Most CEOs arenāt gonna let a team work on the flying car project that will never be sold to anyone ever. Thatās what Elon gets credit for. Letting people spend the money on crazy shit like this. Maybe a piece of real technology come out of letting them tinker on the crazy stuff. Most companies arenāt willing to find out.
If Kleenex changed their name, no one would go along with it either. Some things just are what they are. Twitter is Twitter because they invented Twitter and tweeting. They donāt own the words we use out here in reality. They only choose how they market.
I donāt think itās letting people do anything. He demands a flying car and his engineers have to figure out how to make one thatās not letting people work thatās demanding a product to show off.
Are you under the impression that engineers donāt want to try to make flying cars with company money elsewhere?
Sure, itās just to show off. Engineers like to show off too! Iām not an automotive or aerospace engineer, but I imagine this is basically the dream project for a lot of them
I believe the statements theyāve put out is something like 5-10 seconds of thrust, and 7-10 hours to refill. Iād also not go anywhere near a 10,000psi tank myself.
Does it being a stunt mean that they didnāt enjoy the process of making it? That they didnāt learn anything?
I personally think it's impressive, it made me go "huh, cool..." When I saw it. But my hype is also tied to it's utility and honestly I have a hard time imagining any real utility, there doesn't seem to be anything "new" involved with this, just preexisting things made into a car shape.
I'll admit it's cool, but that's about it, and overall feels like a bit of a waste.
The utility is that it gets investors excited. There are too many logistical/ safety hazards to ever have this product used outside of highly micromanaged tests. Think about it who outside of an actual licensed pilot would you trust to fly this thing. Not to mention refueling would be insanely expensive. Their might be some small advancements in the technology used to build it that have actual applications but that's it. Tech companies do this all the time. They make a big showy product that the public will hear about for a few months to generate buzz and bring in investment, and then it dissappears because, there's no way they can release it to the public.
investors know that Tesla is already overvalued, and know this isn't anything the company will ever sell. this is just a (probably borderline illegal) method to signal to buy, and hoping they get less experienced investors to boost the pump.
how many times has he done a grand show for a feature that is not real?
all boring company loops.
full self drive (while making the cars LESS capable by removing lidar)
I donāt know if people are hating it so much as just realizing itās no more than a neat parlor trick. This has no real world application and it doesnāt help that the people hyping it up as the coolest thing thatās ever been done are all conservatives who praise Elon as a mega genius who needs to be worshipped lol.
You do realize that almost everything that has been invented started as what people would call a "cheap parlor trick," right? Like Tesla was locked and criticized for his work. Many inventors are, as well as their inventions.
You're using "cheap parlor trick" as the scapegoat to hide behind while you're real reasoning is "anything involving Elon is bad."
Its cool that they did it, but its still not a good peice of tech for society at large. Tesla guards their repair manuals thoroughly and frankly people just dont refuse like they should.
That may be true at the moment, but there are many points in history at which people looked at a piece of technology and disliked it, but then it ended up becoming extremely popular and utilised. I'm not saying this is one of them, but it's a bit early to count out the idea of potential flying cars in the futureĀ
Im not saying it doesnt have its possible uses, in fact is perfect for what the grand scheme is. All of Elon's companies really do something that contributes to his obsession with Mars colonization. Flying cars would absolutely function better in low atmosphere/gravity than on earth
Edit:I think i had a stroke or something when I wrote that. Lord it was bad lmao
No, it probably started with his stupid idea, because every engineer with half a brain will tell you this feature is completely useless in the real world. Then he walked away until he got to present all his hard work.
For any idea to come to fruition in any company, the vision starts at the top. Then it trickles down to the people who actually do it.
Can Elon build this car himself? Absolutely not. But would the engineers have received this opportunity to build the car had Elon/other exes and the Board agreed on the same vision amd project to move forward with it? That's how everything works.
Hating a person is fine. Don't hate the science or art in this case.
What happened? Not long ago, the entirety of Reddit was firmly on Elons penis. All snug between his pubic hairs. Now, the hive mind switched and you obviously had to follow?
This is correct, whenever thereās a live announcement/showing of something thatās broadcasted, they absolutely should spend 30 minutes to an hour or two going through every single staff members name and role that went into building it. Even if there were several thousands of staff members involved in the creation of the product.
Elon is letting his engineers do crazy things! Itās this level of leadership that is missing in every other company and why Tesla has been able to do everything they have. Itās way more than writing a check.
Yeah but sadly itās thanks to people like him that this kind of stuff is happening. Engineers that work in Space X have said the same thing, he is pushing space exploration faster than anyone else to where it resulted in other countries advancing their space programs as well. I believe China and Japan are behind space x when it comes to reuse able rockets. Germany or Norway are testing advanced one time use but very cheap compared to NASAās expensive one time use technology.
Isn't this just American history in general? Just throw a huge amount of money at people to come to your country and make stuff for you and then say how great America is.
Exactly. But even then I dislike the generalized Elon hate because itās discrediting the hard and talented work of all the engineers under him even more. Itās ok to say āthat is so cool! And Iām sure Elon had nothing to do with it and is slapping his name on it anyways because heās kind of a turd!ā
Great. But who was accumulating the right people who know how to build it to build it?
If he didnt know shit or deserve any semblance of credit, why wasnt this done by people who knew how to do it prior to him getting them to do it?
What ever it is, even if its just constructing the proper crew to figure it out, nobody else was able to do that before... None of those individuals did it themselves or came collectively to create it without Musk.
I mean yeah. That's huge. The talent always existed but Elon produced an organization that delivers stuff like this. We can both not listen to his ketamine inspired rants and acknowledge the man is at the center of quite a few modern tech marvels.
Great firms (governments) don't just exist. It takes work.
Such a tired bot argument. Elon is doing more than anyone else. I guarantee he had more to do with it than people think. But lets say he didnt, then it is still selective outrage when you compare it to 99% of the products people drool over and their respective companies. Every chance they get, people try to spread hate. It's things like this car and Elon, that help make the US better than any other nation. They wait for the US to do the "thing", hate on every step before hand, while coattailing it from behind the saftey glass the US put up. With all that aside, this obv isnt going to be for the average consumer. It was never about that. Especially, at this stage. You dont have to give Elon himself the credit for building it. However, he still deserves credit for making it happen. Its a cool thing that may or may not have impacts for future developments. No one is Tony Stark. Even if someone was, life aint a movie. It wouldnt just be Tony working on it. Hell, even Tony doesnt make everything himself and he is a super hero.
The foundational technology behind the modern Tesla Roadster stunt began in 1970 when racing engineer Jim Hall introduced the Chaparral 2J race car, which successfully pioneered a sealed-underbody suction system powered by dual mechanical fans. This design generated intense downforce to grip track surfaces before the technology was banned from professional motorsport.
Nearly a decade later, in October 1979, stuntman Kenny Powers attempted a massive, rocket-powered car launch across the St. Lawrence River using a modified Lincoln Continental equipped with twin hydrogen-peroxide chemical rockets producing 11,000 pounds of thrust. Because that vehicle lacked any onboard stabilization computers or guidance systems, it functioned like an unguided ballistic missile, immediately losing structural control and disintegrating mid-air under massive aerodynamic pressures.
On November 16, 2017, Elon Musk announced the second-generation Tesla Roadster concept with an optional "SpaceX Package" featuring small cold-gas rocket thrusters. Following nearly a decade of development delays, Tesla and SpaceX conducted a live, autonomous demonstration of the production-intent prototype on October 15, 2026, at a rocket test facility in McGregor, Texas.
The 2026 demonstration succeeded where historical attempts failed by combining both historical concepts through advanced closed-loop automation. The unmanned prototype first used a specialized underbody suction system to generate over two Gs of downforce, allowing it to drive up a curved ramp until it reached a 170-degree inverted, upside-down position. Upon launching off the ramp, an internal aerospace flight computer dynamically controlled a matrix of 10 independent cold-gas thruster nozzles fed by ultra-high-pressure compressed air tanks. By executing real-time micro-adjustments, the automated software stabilization system controlled the car's mid-air rotation to complete a horizontal flip. It then safely cleared a 68-foot gap over five parked vehiclesāincluding a Tesla Semiāand fired retro-bursts of air to cushion a 3.2-G impact for a soft landing. While this experimental rocket configuration is slated for limited, invitation-only production starting in 2028, it remains unapproved for public road use.
The issue is the engineering isnāt that incredible. None of it is new technology, they just shoved it in a car (thatāsā not drivable), and it also serves no purpose.
Why do you assume it has anything to do with Musk? Itās neat engineering but an absolute waste of time and money and energy, when we have actual problems to deal with. Itās a rich manās play toy with zero societal benefit.
This is a very unoriginal critique youāre parroting and itās supposed to suggest that people are deranged against him. However one might note that a) SpaceX fans are blindly worshipful and b) not everything they think is cool is universally awesome and c) itās reasonable to be dismissive and not taken in by a publicity stunt and d) you all only say that when youāre impressed by a publicity stunt. Clap, baby, clap
Tbf as cool as it is the thing is a fucking death machine. Thereās a fucking pressurized tank for rockets in the thing. You could probably kill an entire city block with a fender bender.
I mean idgaf who did it, it IS worthless. So many things actually have benefits to society, this is nothing more than a PR stunt because it will likey never be commercially available to anyone.
Apparently not, I found the stunt kind of stupid but cool at the same time. Its something that we haven't really seen before and the level of engineering to pull it off is incredible. I get the hate fore Elon but this is an advancement toward the future just think of all ideas and tech that may come of this.
Thats what you sound like describing a trillionaires spending money he stole from you on turning a car into a bomb that can levitate for a few seconds āsomething coolā.
Especially when that trillionaire has the charisma of syphilis, the brain power of a rock, and the personality of a mustache twirling villain hoping to enslave us all. Also heās a Nazi collaborating piece of shit.
āWow, Elon invented (which means Elon underpaid and overworked real talent to make something he claimed he invented) a bomb you can drive so you can explode into a fine mist in low speed collisions! But itās totally worth it, think of all the time youāll save jumping from all the half pipe hoops the USA has set up all over the country!.ā
The man actively steals from you, pours money into candidates who want to see you enslaved (if youāre white, any other color and get out), and you just canāt stop describing how much you like the taste of his cock.
It lacks any near future practicality to it, it was an expensive fashion show. Nothing was mentioned regarding flight duration, payload or operating costs. Nothing of substance was discussed.
The tech demo was showing stunts not any kind of meaningful road worthiness. A technological demonstration should be evaluated against a practical objective, not just how impressive it looks.
Anything to keep the simpletons entertained and shareholders happy.
A pedo taking credit for work that already been a thing for years isn't something you wanna defend. There's also a reason why flying cars never became normalized and its not because of engineering limits is that people are stupid in cars
So what exactly about this is so cool? How could it ever be useful in any situation? When someone with a history of not delivering on past promises, unveiling " new tech" before it's near functional outside of 1 demonstration in pure black so you can't see what's actually going on. You just STILL eat it up? After all the lies you still believe the snake oil salesman the next time he comes to town. How many lies would it take for you to finally stop believing the first thing he says? Is there even a number?
Years ago people gave Tesla piles of money as deposits for the āupcomingā roadster, Tesla then proceeds to not build that roadster and made it damn near impossible to get your money back.
Ok now itās finally time to see the new roadster!
Elon shows off a car thats not even a roadster hopping around on nitrogen compressed to such an ungodly high pressure that Tesla engineers donāt even know how a customer would recharge the tank in practice
None of the tech shown off is new or has any relevance to the things people want a Tesla roadster to actually do. If any other company had done a tech demo like this theyād be laughed off the stage because it has zero relevance to the product theyāre trying to sell.
Regardless of whose company did it, it's still worthless. Sure, it's great engineering (not by Musk personally, of course), but ultimately a waste of some good engineers' time to make a short-lived spectacle designed to briefly pump a company's stock price and inflate a trillionaire's ego.
seriously, can people not just appreciate the engineering that went into this for a second without defaulting to "elons company did it so it must be bad/worthless?"
No? Why would we? This is marketing for a guy who is single-handedly funding the Republican party, which is currently led by a pedophile, in the midterm elections, and who just empowered Russia to dramatically increase the violence and bloodshed in the invasion of Ukraine.
Both can be true and nuance doesn't make you a hypocrite. Yes, the demo was cool and I can respect the engineering that went into it.
However, how many car companies have you heard of that have promised a car to their clients who made reservations, made them wait 9 years, scrapped the car entirely with a new one and made them wait at least another full year?
Was the "Rocket" spec actually presented on stage doing the wall climb and barrel rolls, or was it a stripped out, remotely controlled/programmed mule? I will eat my trousers if that's anywhere near production level.
What about the legality of the fans and thrusters? Will they geofence those features for off road/track use? What about the safety of having two highly compressed 10,000 psi tanks in the car, one of which is right beside the driver where the passenger seat would be?
Musk is someone who has a long history of overpromising and under delivering. I respect the engineers of SpaceX and Tesla, but Musk is just another Steve Jobs. Another narcissistic whiny asshole. Let's not forget he publically called a cave diver conducting a rescue operation a "pedophile", just because he wouldn't accept his poorly designed submarine idea. So he hired a private investigator to dig up dirt on him and they came back with nothing. Then Musk fabricated a BS story about the investigator lying to him and running off with his money.
TLDR; SpaceX and Tesla engineers are cool. Fuck Musk.
Its not necessarily just because its the rich, racist and mildly retarded man's company. The way I see it. That car was not flying. That car, simply braced its fall more than once using momentum to carry it through the air. It also can jump, which I guess can be cool. But labeling it a "Flying Tesla" is false advertising. Thats not even going into the logistics of weather or not putting rocket boosters on a car made for the public is ethical, nor environmentally sound, or if you'd need to fill up the gas tank for the rockets with regular 87 or need to find a damn ROCKET FUEL PUMP! But I digress, its stupid because its not a flying car.
Yeah its a neat thing to watch, like a Mr. Beast video or a multi-mile slack line walk.
Ultimately it's just the self landing rocket tech/software duct taped to a car making it illegal for road use. Yeah cool glue the self landing rocket tech to a fucking blue whale too, why not, no one can drive that to work either.
Because it's pretty transparent Musk is doing everything he can to dismantle democracy and he is using those cheap tricks to distract the population away from his nefarious business ?
Because it's a stunt. An 'engineering marvel' that was commissioned to make oohs and ahhs on the internet. The engineers that worked on this probably knew already it was never going to be anything but a stunt.
Starship and Falcon weren't stunts. They worked towards a real application and succeeded (well, for Falcon at least for now). People would appreciate that more.
The answer is a resounding no. There is a large group of people that is akin to a cult at this point. There is no deviating from doctrine. To acknowledge that something adjacent to Elon or Trump or anyone else not on the extreme left is cool, is blasphemy. These people are legitimately very similar to brainwashed cultists. Itās wild to see.
Itās not really useful or ācoolā though and weāve had vehicles that could do this for a while. He didnāt invent or engineer shit.
Furthermore, flying cars is some Back to the Future level futurism that ignores the actual needs of mankind right now. We need mass transit and clean energy. Not more polluting personal vehicles that are likely to kill a number of their users. We have plenty of those already. Thanks, leon.
Sure it's cool, but why? Certainly no state would allow such a vehicle onto interstate roads or highways. With the level of morons driving i don't need another that can flying into me.
I think its because its been done multiple times before, like 5 times at least. And flying cars look cool but they're never useful or practical. Elons just the 6th guy to do it
As soon as you accept that this isnt revolutionary and literally any spacefaring group could have done this with an empty car shell and a tiny thrust tank. It has as much worth as monster truck show. Probably less because musk is a slaver and literal Southafrican Nazi and monster trucks are actually controlled by humans instead of remote controlled sequence of code
Bro its worthless. Tell me which normal car needs to float for a better driving experience. Not to mention you would need dozens of new traffic rules.
Its just a toy for the rich like almost anything his company invents
It's cool, but it comes at a time when many people are suffering and want to see some progress, not a wasteful vanity project from a corrupt trillionaire.
I remember a time when reddit was gobbling Elonās schlong because he was āsaving the planet with his cars.ā Then he supported Trump and was against his one kid going trans. The entirety of the site shifted against Elon.
Its hard to blame them. musk is a complete piece of shit and the idea of giving anything he is associated with any positive attention is unappealing to say the least. Look at how badly he fucked things up in the government with the doge cuts, the massive amounts of money he gave to trump, the nazi crap, etc.... I do give credit to the people that actually engineered this, same as I do, for example, with tesla cars (except for the cyber dumpster) but I'll never buy one as long musk is associated with the company.
But the amount of glazing coming from people on the internet slamming this car that's not street legal in our faces when we're just trying to live our lives is so annoying.
Is it cool? Sure.
Is it street legal? No.
Are most people going to be able to buy it? No.
90% of the reason people are telling you guys to fuck off is because you elon ball garglers are so annoying, not the car.
Is it really so surprising that normal people want nothing to do with an admitted Nazi?
People will rightfully criticize Ford, IBM, etc. for having done business with the Nazis because society as a whole recognizes that propping up the companies of Nazis is counter productive. If you want to wear kneepads for temu Alfred Hugenberg, that's fine... But pretending that people shouldn't have a visceral reaction to a bigot/pedophile is absolutely fucking wild.
It has literally no autonomy at all and would loose all its fuel extremely fast, in minutes, while making the actual driving autonomy of the car smaller.
This is a massive gas tank. This is a literal bomb.
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Humanity does something cool, but its elon musks company: š¤¬š
seriously, can people not just appreciate the engineering that went into this for a second without defaulting to "elons company did it so it must be bad/worthless?"