r/AskReddit • • 4h ago

What's a job you think deserves a much higher salary than it actually pays?

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u/TeslaCast 4h ago

Care workers, especially the ones doing the lifting and washing.

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u/No-Bit-2913 2h ago

Yep this was my thought, transporters in my hospital are responsible for transporting critical patients, with large heavy medical equipment in tow. They also respond to all codes. And they get paid minimum wage.

Why should they subject themselves to that level of responsibility for minimum wage?

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u/Tiiimmmaayy 2h ago

Yeah but how will the CEOs and owners get their bonuses??

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u/bmcle071 2h ago

Oh yeah, my wife was an MRT and her mom is a PSW.

I sit around at home at a computer and make over 2x what my wife made when she was HEALING THE SICK. Its insane

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u/DumbFeralRaccoon 4h ago

Janitorial staff. They handle biohazards, regularly do overtime, and often hold the key to the building.

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u/feral_philosopher 4h ago

Hells yea. I actually want to be a janitor, but the pay sucks. Not only do they keep everyone from being up to their over-educated armpits in waste, they have to be handy-men, security, and the first person in the building, and last to leave.

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u/Blecher_onthe_Hudson 4h ago

If you were a janitor in my school system you'd be making well over a $100k.

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u/offspringphreak 2h ago

Where are you located and are they hiring?

Custodian at a college here, nowhere near 100k. Or 50k. Or even 30k.

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u/Blecher_onthe_Hudson 2h ago

I'm in northern New Jersey, and like a lot of cushy union jobs, you need to know someone.

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u/DumbFeralRaccoon 4h ago

Exactly, I just listed what I thought of off the top of my head. I’d love to be one too bc I love cleaning for other people but I have the same issue with the low wage

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u/crimxxx 3h ago

Probably almost every job at this point, at least where I live decades of stagnant wages plus inflation has mostly killed most people buying power, like 15 years ago 100k was your doing really well, now it’s okay to probably not great depending on your city, and that is still a higher end salary on a national level.

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u/funkingroovy77 2h ago

I remember fresh out of college during Covid era telling my dad what I made for managing third party housekeeping for multiple retirement homes and he looked upset lol then he said he made 2 bucks more an hour back in 1995 in a light bulb warehouse haha

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u/Bearded_Pip 34m ago

The US has not raised the minimum wage in nearly 20 years.

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u/Potential_Aardvark59 4h ago

EMT/Medic

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u/FuturePrimitiv3 2h ago

EMS needs to be an equal service to police and fire with pay and benefits to match. (And I say this as a union firefighter.)

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u/Potential_Aardvark59 1h ago

My wife is an EMT, and does a lot of extra work like scheduling, etc. I totally agree. These people actually risk their lives at times. They deserve to be recognized.

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u/estellerlight 4h ago

teachers

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u/could_use_a_snack 4h ago

Also school custodians.

Any school employee really.

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u/anothercookie90 3h ago

Well some football coaches make more than the rest of the staff

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u/TheScuzz 2h ago

I think we can agree that we are referring to the staff in American public primary and secondary schools (think elementary through highschool). College level is an entire different can of worms when it comes to how they compensate staff.

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u/scientifichooligans 2h ago

Depending on the area, this also applies to high schools. Texas has several high school football coaches earning +$150,000

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u/TheScuzz 2h ago

In Texas that doesn't surprise me. I'm curious if that is from a public or private school.

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u/PeppyQuotient57 1h ago

I’ve seen it in public Colorado schools

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u/UnsungSumac 2h ago edited 2h ago

I took home less than $15 per hour after deductions in a wealthy town as a custodian it wasn’t right and it was a town job. Forced into a retirement contribution I didn’t want that was also high along with the healthcare. Without those I may have been able to rent something. To rent a room in the broader area is way over 1,000.

Since the schedule changes during school breaks and summers, plus the emergency snow response stuff it was tough to figure out a second job. It wasn’t union either. They were already attempting to outsource one building to an outside contractor for less money, while my boss got a 10% raise, that he told me about, it was messed up. He was the director of facilities at 150k. His raise represented nearly half of my yearly earnings after deductions.

I was the 9th custodian they lost in less than 4 years. Boss was an ass but the pay and the scheduling was atrocious. The town I worked in, at the public school, has a median income of 250k, and a mean income of over 330k.

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u/funkingroovy77 2h ago

The over paying of random admin is also why all schools feel so underfunded

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u/UnsungSumac 2h ago

I don’t disagree. The talk going around was the town would eventually sub all the janitorial out to a third party since they’re incapable of retaining staff but end up with even more potential issues. The boss had already automated all the doors and could lock and unlock them from his house 30 miles away. It’s sad I would’ve made it work if they didn’t make it so difficult.

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u/uber765 2h ago

If they think the school directly can't retain staff, imagine how much turnover the 3rd party company has.

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u/UnsungSumac 1h ago

I know lol, but then they can just blame the contractor. Anything but remove the director and pay people enough who would otherwise stay and not cause any issues.

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u/uber765 1h ago

And they will end up paying the contract company twice what would be a reasonable wage for the position, while the company drops pennies down to the staff actually doing the job. The company that gets hired is probably owned by the buddy of a board member too.

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u/giggity_giggity 1h ago

Except that one bus driver who would idle their bus loudly every day outside my house at 6:30am while I was trying to sleep. Fuck that guy. But pay the rest more!

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u/VikingRodeo9 3h ago

The amount of people I know who initially wanted to be teachers only to pivot in either college or shortly afterwards is staggering.

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u/blisteringchristmas 3h ago

I’m a teacher, albeit one that lives in a well paid city/state. If I had a dollar for every friend or acquaintance who works a corporate type job that said to me “oh, that’s something I’ve always thought about doing / pivoting to” I could fund my retirement.

I made serious concessions to my earning potential to work in a field I love, even in one of the better situations in the country. How are we going to attract talent to the profession if they can make more money literally anywhere else?

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u/boilermakerteacher 3h ago

You are me. Same thought pattern, etc. there are about 5 states I’d consider teaching in in the entire country, and that’s salary and union alone. I couldn’t fathom teaching in large swaths of the country where you max out at $60k.

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u/JmunE204 2h ago

You just answered your own question. It’s a field you love, so you’re willing to do it for less money than being a corporate robot.

I’m sure most people would prefer teaching over what they currently do but not enough to take the pay cut

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u/anxiousbarista 3h ago edited 2h ago

Paraeducators too. I'm new to the profession and work in a level 3 autism classroom with 3-5 year olds and this is absolutely the hardest job I've ever done. We change diapers, get bit, listen to screaming, chase elopers all while staying positive and calm. I make $20/hr... less than my previous job in customer service where I sat at a desk all day. All that said, it is very meaningful work and you really bond with the kiddos and get invested in seeing them succeed.

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u/KindaWitchAdjacent 2h ago

Agreed! My husband works in education with kids with autism and he's come with a gash across his nose because one kid got mad and threw a game controller at him. Later that week he came home with fingernail gashes across his forehead from another kid who didn't want to work. And don't get me started on the kid who liked to spit! He loves what he does but he has a master's degree and makes barely $60k a year. And he said this is the most what ever made working in this field. It's insane to me how little they are paid for what they do.

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u/secretlyaraccoon 1h ago

Special education teachers and staff in general should be paid more. My district used to pay sped paras higher than other paras but then the other ones complained that it wasn’t fair so they changed it but I don’t see other paras getting bitten or literally pooped on sooo

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u/IfuDidntCome2Party 4h ago

If I had my way, Teachers would be paid a lot more and parents would be responsible for their kids. Any kid acting up will need to be present with their parents for a week. Parents will realize real fast, Teachers are not there to train kids to be respectful and something at home will straighten up real fast.

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u/athrowawayacct999 4h ago

Teachers because you get what you pay for. You want crappy teachers, pay crap. If you want consistently great teachers, pay a great salary.

The top kids in college are not interested in a teaching career because you can make SO much more in basically any field. Furthermore, you don't need to deal with parents.

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u/EaterOfPenguins 3h ago

What's always been interesting to me too is that it's not necessarily governed by some supply/demand issue when it comes to public school teachers. We could just choose, culturally, that teachers deserve a lot more money and pay that.

Imagine a world where public school teachers start at triple what they do now, and the best uni students are fighting for the chance to perform well enough for the well-paid privilege of teaching the next generation. Potentially we end up with experienced subject matter experts who got enough experience on their specialty to "finally" be able to transfer out of industry and into teaching. Being a teacher becomes an indicator of high achievement with difficult competition.

People talk about raising teacher pay just to pay our poor teachers more, which would be nice, but I'd like to raise teacher pay so much that becoming one attracts the best and brightest among us.

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u/narium 2h ago

Unfortunately never going to happen because the average American has a visceral hatred of any sort of taxation, and double hatred for property tax, which is how schools are funded.

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u/JoeyJoJoJrShabadou 3h ago

I agree. But would just paying more improve the system? Look at police. They get paid a ton, and it attracts power-tripping, inept, corrupt, wife-beating, racist assholes. If teaching paid a lot, would it attract people who really just want to teach, or people who really just want to make a lot of money? We'd have to keep the standards of who becomes a teacher very high. I think your idea of people "finally" being able to teach is great. You become so proficient at something, you get the privilege of teaching it and earning a great salary.

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u/littleproducer 3h ago

Police is a ~6 month education requirement. I think that plays a big part.

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u/KonigderWasserpfeife 2h ago

I just did a quick google, and found that the median police officer salary is about $76,000 ( mean ~$74,000) compared to a teacher with a median salary at about $65,000 (mean ~$74,000).

Keeping the standards for teachers high is good. The standard for police should be significantly higher than it is currently. I don’t think it’s the salary that attracts cops. I suspect it attracts power-tripping, inept, corrupt, wife-beating, racist assholes because it has an incredibly low barrier to entry while supporting the tendency to be all of those things.

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u/HelpfulSeaMammal 4h ago

Thread over.

Every response should be this.

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u/hansn 2h ago

Well, emts/paramedics are ridiculously underpaid as well. Home health workers often get minimum wage. 

I agree with you that teachers are underpaid, but I don't think they are the only ones.

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u/toripotter86 4h ago

anyone who disagrees has never spent time in a school at any level. i don’t teach anymore, but still work in education, and it’s absolutely ridiculous that they aren’t paid more.

but yeah, they get 12 weeks “off” a year, so that’s fantastic. 🥴

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u/Tremulant887 3h ago

Just spending time around kids is enough to warrant a pay increase. Education needs incentive for better teachers anyway. It's hard being taught algebra by a football coach and expected to go into your next year knowing more. Then the burnt out or the angry teachers having to deal with asshole kids from the dumbest parents?

I couldn't do it. Not effectively the way I think it should be done, anyway.

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u/Fish-With-Pants 2h ago

Ya “off” more like seasonal unemployment lol

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u/Herbal77 4m ago

It's a feature, not a bug

They barely want to educate anymore, with burning books It's looking grim guys

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u/davy_crockett_slayer 4h ago

Depends where you live. Teachers in Texas earn very well.

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u/Blecher_onthe_Hudson 4h ago

Same in New Jersey, median salary in my district is like $110k.

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u/mymeatpuppets 3h ago

Every public facing job. All of them.

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u/xheist 1h ago

Funny how quickly these "essential workers" became "unskilled" or were otherwise left abandoned

Australia thanked our "essential workers" by immediately cutting their penalty rates

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u/Minute_Limit_3169 1h ago

Teachers, but they need to improve the quality of education, too. Far too many who shouldn’t be allowed near our children.

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u/PeachMan- 1h ago

If we paid teachers a competitive salary, we would have better teachers. We can't pay them shit and expect stellar work.

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u/Minute_Limit_3169 1h ago

Agreed!!! Increase pay and raise the bar. The big thing is to get them the support they need. It’s unbelievable what the non-teaching expectations are today. Changing dirty diapers in 2nd and 3rd grade?!? The extras that are demanded of them have gotten out of control. My family members work 10 hours per day these days. And still have to work side hustles.

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u/CreativeName233223 48m ago

Yep, that is part of the problem.  With the exception of those that will simply endure regardless due to their level of passion for the job, lower and lower relative pay will inevitably result in all the good ones leaving for greener pastures.  And even the former group has its breaking point.  And, when they go, the school is fucked.

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u/Danominator 1h ago

If they paid more they would get more quality people and could get rid of the bad ones

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u/Dont_Ban_Me_Bros 1h ago

There’s also a lot of teachers who have no control over their own curriculum. Being forced to teach shit content can be demoralizing.

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u/Minute_Limit_3169 1h ago

Having two in my family, I 100% agree with you.

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u/GreedyNovel 26m ago

The big problem with most public schools in the US is that teachers are not actually expected to teach. They're expected to provide daycare for working parents, and are paid accordingly.

Actual *teachers* can deservedly make more money somewhere else working with parents who also invest their own time and have actual expectations.

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u/KatoB23 3h ago

DSPs, theyre essentially glorified caregivers doing nursing duties and behavioralist jobs for the disabled and intellectual disability communities and get paid less than food service.

These people are the backbone of society taking care of yalls disabled adult children and they get treated horribly and disgusting excuses of wage.

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u/1986toyotacorolla2 3h ago

Yeah it's exactly why I got out of the industry. 4 years burned me the fuck out.

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u/DeepValueDiver 4h ago

All jobs should pay a living wage. Corporate profits are stolen wages.

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u/redceramicfrypan 4h ago

Seriously. This comes up all the time in conversations about tipping. I know there are a lot of complicated layers to that conversation, but it often comes down to people complaining that "servers don't want to end tipping culture because then they wouldn't be making $35/hr" or whatever number.

Like no shit, because they're making a living wage and they don't want to be making a less-than-living wage. People who act that servers should be making minimum wage don't understand how unlivable minimum wage is. No one should be making minimum wage, especially not the federal minimum wage.

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u/Staav 2h ago

No one should be making minimum wage, especially not the federal minimum wage.

The fact what you said couldn't be truer is painfully ironic for what the federal minimum wage is supposed to be, by definition (when it obviously isn't).

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u/t3h_r0nz 2h ago

They've got us fighting each other instead of them.

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u/Random_Introvert_42 3h ago

Hospice care, especially pediatric hospice care.

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u/PaolitoG12 1h ago

Hard agree. And they probably do all the dirty stuff like feeding tubes, wiping ass, catheters etc.

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u/First_Butterscotch73 3h ago

Social workers

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u/Ajrob88 3h ago

I have been a teacher for 10 years. This summer I wanted to give a shot at being a Social Worker (child welfare).

I made more and did less work as a teacher. In my state, Social Workers require a degree and make in the low $40,000 range a year, capped under $50k.

On top of that, the work load was worse than teaching (I taught Special Education). Much higher burn out.

I had to DoorDash 10-20 hours a week to make ends meet, and I easily made more For DoorDashing.

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u/Plus_Juggernaut2819 56m ago

EMT/ Medics anything that still have a Volunteer, that’s just all bad.

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u/alessiapearl 2h ago

Teachers, nurses and the people who clean up after everyone else. Society would fall apart without them but somehow we pay them like their work doesn’t matter.

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u/nemofbaby2014 1h ago

Teachers fire fighters and for the love of god ems workers

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u/FLee21 2h ago

Social work. But in relality any and every minimum wage job. Becuase they serve the majority of people with the least amount of pay.

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u/Ancient_Bobcat_9150 4h ago

Social workers (and teachers, but they have been already mentionned quite a bit)

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u/Searchlights 3h ago

Social workers are criminally underpaid

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u/I-LeadandCoach 4h ago

For what it costs to become a social worker, they make nothing.

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u/davy_crockett_slayer 4h ago

My brother has a Master's in Social Work. We (his other siblings) all send him ~$300 a month so he can make ends meet.

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u/I-LeadandCoach 4h ago

It's a calling.

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u/Blecher_onthe_Hudson 3h ago

This. My LCSW wife with 35 years of experience was the director of a mental health clinic with 1500 patients making $105k.

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u/HappysavageMk2 3h ago

Everything.

All jobs deserves much higher salary but the rich have been stealing from us for years

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u/ChaoticAmoebae 2h ago

Ceo is part of everything

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u/HappysavageMk2 2h ago

CEO isn't a job

It's a grift

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u/BB5er 4h ago

CNA. They do all the grunt work in taking care of our elderly.

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u/tech_medic_five 3h ago

Paramedics

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u/G_Art33 2h ago

Veterinary technicians deserve a lot more than they get. A friend of mine is one, her pay is egregiously low for the amount of BS she goes through on a daily basis. And honestly if they are going to charge us ridiculous bills, they should be able to break some of that off and pay their staff better. Just a thought.

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u/MemoryDemise 3h ago

Most public service/safety jobs like fire fighters, emt, police, teachers etc. I saw a hiring ad from the county fire department, starting pay was $54,000/year. Meanwhile median income in the county is $105,798, and a modest 1400sqft 3 bedroom house is $470,000+. Impossible to live in the area on that little.

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u/Suspicious-Chair5130 2h ago

EMTs are criminally underpaid for what they do

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u/arepotatoesreal 2h ago edited 2h ago

Now look up the median salary in the police and fire department. They make good money and are massive portions of city budgets.

EMTs don’t and teachers generally don’t though.

Edit: Specifics for my city: median individual income $62,000, starting base pay for a new recruit at the police department $98,000. That’s a pretty surefire way into a comfortable living if you don’t have a degree.

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u/JBru_92 4h ago

EMTs

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u/ShadowyPepper 59m ago

Non-police first responders

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u/GumboDiplomacy 38m ago

Median pay for a new EMT is $17/hr. That's the person you're counting on to treat and transport you on the worst day of your life, $2/hr more than a cashier at Target.

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u/Mirar 17m ago

Teachers. XD

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u/Madmonkeman 1h ago

Minimum wage needs to actually be enough to afford housing, food, and other necessary expenses.

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u/Slylok 1h ago

Anything physical deserves higher pay. You are spent by 40.

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u/Deaze_ 4h ago

Teachers, Nurses, Firefighters, Aged Care, Disability Carers.

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u/awkwardbastard 4h ago

Therapists they do NOT make enough money at all. Folks are getting $50k in debt just to have 50% or more of their income taken

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u/Shattered_Visage 3h ago

only 50k would be a dream

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u/sulllenriot 35m ago

I’m still sitting at just over six figures and I graduated in 2015

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u/whimsical_spider 4h ago

Hi hello it me

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u/Jayswag96 29m ago

PSWs, doctors and nurses (even though they make good money already) they are worked to the bone!

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u/LordAwesomeguy 1h ago

Firefighters, police, medical staff (including EMT), and teachers

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u/CreativeName233223 52m ago

EMTs were my first thought.  They deal with everything that doesn't walk/drive itself to the clinic/ER and these ambulance companies charge so much that people legit ask for people to call an Uber or throw them in the back of a truck rather than call an ambulance.  Yet EMTs see a fraction of it.

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u/riftastic76 1h ago

Most cops retire making well over six figures and so do firefighters

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u/Odd-Pumpkin-4199 4h ago

I'll second others who have said social workers and therapists. These are people with graduate degrees (and the debt to prove it) and must meet licensing and continuing education requirements, but many jobs in the field pay less than $40,000. On top of that, if they're working as therapists, they spend untold unpaid hours arguing with insurance companies both on behalf of their clients and to get paid for work they've already done. And then companies like Headway that purport to make life easier for patients and practitioners, instead require therapists to agree to pay cuts and sign over the rights to their images and voice so that they can be replaced with shitty, ineffective AI "therapy."

Child therapists have it even worse, for all the unpaid hours dealing with custodial parents, estranged parents, teachers, other school officials and so on.

Given all that, it is a miracle that any therapist accepts insurance or charges less than $300 an hour.

(I'm not a social worker or a therapist. Just married to one.)

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u/jellyn7 4h ago

Librarians.

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u/Harden_Doneski 2h ago

Better question: which jobs can't cover rent?

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u/ForsakenRacism 2h ago

Air traffic control.

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u/Generico300 2h ago

Pretty much everything, except CEO

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u/Jackthwolf 4h ago edited 4h ago

Basically the entire list of jobs that were listed as "essential" during Covid.

Every single one is criminally underpayed
And every single oneo is apparently important enough that workers had to risk their life during a pandemic or entire countries would have collapsed.

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u/gothiclg 4h ago

Paramedics. I’ve made more as a waitress than a paramedic makes.

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u/its-a-saw-dude 2h ago

Social workers and teachers.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Rice849 58m ago

EMTs/Paramedics and Firefighters

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u/princess_gothic 4h ago

Definitely customer service

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u/PsykoFlounder 4h ago

Soecifically anyone who has to put up with customers. A few months ago I was at work. A guy came in, super friendly, and bought a 2L bottle of nitrous.. I worked at a smoke shop... Transaction was great, no problems whatsoever.

3 hours later the phone rings.

Me: "Thanks for calling The Smoke Shop I Worked At! What can I do for ya' today?"

Customer: "Hey.. I was in there a little bit ago, and I bought the big nitrous bottle. It must have a leak or something... This keeps happening with you guys. Can I come in and get my money back for this thing?"

Now. He sounded slightly frustrated, which I could imagine being the case. He spent $75+ tax on what should have been a substantial supply of Nitrous (I assume, anyways. Don't do that stuff myself)

Me: "Unfortunately, do the disposable nature of the nitrous canisters, and the unfortunate case of people trying to take advantage of our kindness in the pass, we no longer offer refunds on nitrous products, unless the leak or damaged product js pointed out before it leaves the store."

I have been told by others that I have an inhumanly good customer service voice. Had a previous boss tell me that customer service was in fact my super power. I vould sense that this wasn't going to go great, so I decided to tag on

Me: "But, seeing as it's super frustrating that this kind of thing happens, if you want, I can pull up your rewards account and go ahead and put a 20% discount on there for you to use next time, and I can throw some bonus points on the account to get you closer to the next discount tier, as well.... Just don't tell my boss about that one."

At this point, I hear a hearty sigh from the other end of the phone.

Customer: "Fine. Alright. I'll take that, I guess. I know it's not like you guys make these things. It's the company's fault. Not yours... But, thanks for the discount."

Me: after taking his info and adding his points and discount to his account "Sorry again about the faulty tank, man. Next time you come in, take a second to check out the tank and make sure it's not leaking or anything before you leave, that way we can make sure it's not faulty, I have no problems helping you out with that. I hope the rest of your day goes better."

About an hour later. The phone rings, I answer, and before I can get to the name of the smoke shop, the same dude interrupts me

Customer: "Hey, f****t! You sold me a leaky fuckin' tank, cocksucker. Fuckin' gimme a new one!"

Me: "Hey... No need for hostility, my man. Like I said earlier, I can't give you-"

Customer: "Fuck you, f*g! Gimme a new tank, or we're gonna' have a fuckin' problem! I'll fuck you up!"

Me: "There's no need for slurs, man. If you want, I can talk to my manager, and we cab get this sorted for you."

Customer: "You pansy fuckin' bitch, you're gonna' give me a new fuckin' rank or I'm gonna' fuckin' cut you, f****t!"

Me: "If you insist on using slurs and threate ing violence, I won't try and help you ou-"

Customer: "F****t ass pansy motherfucker!"

He probably continued, but I hung up on him, and called the shop owner. Owner apologized for me having to deal with that, said that he hated selling nitrous, oil burners, and a couple other products because of the people that it brought into the store, but because California keeps banning things that we CAN make money from, they are things we have to sell. He got the customer's phone number from me and told me he would handle it.

About an hour later the phone rings, and before I can say a word I hear him again.

Customer: "Pansy f*t bitch boy called his manager like a pussy ass bitch! Fuck you, I ever see you again, I'm gonna' treat you like a ft in the showers in the joint, you f***t ass bitch."

Then I lost my cool. I sinply said...

Me: "Dude, fuck you." And hung up the phone.

I called my boss again and told him what happened. My boss came to the store immediately, he was there within 8 minutes. He had an envelope with the customer's name on it. He told him he was going to give him his money back, and that he was never welcome in the store again. He stayed in the store for 3 hours, until closing time. I closed up for the night and left.

I was off the next day. Which I was quite thankful for. But the day after, I worked. When I got to work, my coworker who we'll call Julie was there. She had opened the previous day. She told me that the customer showed up about 10 minutes after we opened, and he came in with a fucking machete. Julie, being fucking amazing, gave him his envelope, informed him that the boss had decided that it was best he didn't come to the store anymore, and she basically gave this dude a one on one counseling session over the course of 45 minutes, during which he broke down crying about his issues with th addiction and anger. He never came back.

Julie abd I both made minimum wage.

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u/duosx 2h ago

Fucking all of them

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u/charlieyeswecan 1h ago

Teachers and firefighters and wait staff. Off the top my head

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u/PaolitoG12 1h ago

Hard disagree on wait staff.

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u/Intrepid_Cup2765 4h ago edited 3h ago

Engineers - they get paid decently now, but for the impact their work makes on the world, they certainly deserve more. Higher pay would help lure more talented people into the field as well.

Edit: Looks like I triggered a bunch of responses from people who don’t understand what engineers do!

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u/I_Have_Hairy_Teeth2 2h ago

A road death in the UK costs around £2.5m to the public purse, but the engineer responsible for crunching the data in my area, designing safety improvements etc. and who has statistically reduced numbers over a 20 year period and gets paid a whopping £40k.

There are some engineers who are overpaid, but there's a lot who are drastically underpaid.

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u/Beebjank 2h ago

On the other side of that, mechanical designers. The guys who are in charge of routing pipes/hvac based on the engineer’s requirements. This tops out at like 130k/yr I feel like.

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u/DaSmartSwede 4h ago

As a manager of engineers, they get plenty already. A very small fraction is actually changing the world or making it better, they’re just there to make the company slightly more money.

Also, a surprisingly large number of them are kind of dumb.

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u/spoonerluv 3h ago

Management calling skilled workers dumb is incredible irony

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u/Christron 2h ago

A lot of management is former engineers too

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u/Agitated_Newt_7655 1h ago

More are pms with no real connection

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u/SL-Gremory- 4h ago

Engineer here, agreed.

However I think the increased pay would need to come with more scrutiny and stricter hiring.

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u/xRolox 1h ago

Dumb engineer here - yep.

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u/Odd_Opinion_289 3h ago

Teachers and care workers, especially nurses. They do some of the most essential work in society, looking after people at their most vulnerable, yet are consistently underpaid and undervalued for the physical, emotional and mental labour their jobs demand.

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u/prettycote 3h ago

Social work

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u/MegaDuckCougarBoy 4h ago

Almost all of them that aren't executive level, tbh.

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u/JennJayBee 3h ago

This is the correct answer.

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u/KingSteamRoller7168 4h ago

Construction jobs, we’re making these material companies 10x what we make a year. Putting their stuff in for them.

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u/FlourishPizza 4h ago

Anything that has to do with keeping airplanes safe. Pilots, engineers, ATC's, technicians, inspectors.... pay those guys whatever they want

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u/DGlen 2h ago

All that middle class stuff that is the actual backbone of the economy.

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u/HereForC0mments 4h ago

(good) teachers

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u/Big-Carpenter7921 4h ago

Higher pay attracts better teachers

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u/thomasrat1 4h ago

Only if you can fire the bad ones

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u/captainkappa173 4h ago

Educators, care providers for little kids and the elderly, anyone doing an "undesirable" job like trash collectors

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u/Novel-Structure-2359 4h ago

Scientists

We go toe to toe with mother nature trying to correct her homework. This is not easy.

My wife constantly nags me about being underpaid despite my two degrees and all my skills.

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u/excitedguy 3h ago

The answer is definitely teachers

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u/_Erindera_ 3h ago

Teaching. They deserve all the money.

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u/Wizzle_Pizzle_420 1h ago

Most of them, and CEO jobs much less. The smaller jobs are far more important, the top tier ones are useless.

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u/nwprogressivefans 43m ago

Government people. 175k for congress? $400k for the president? lol these incomes are security risks when rich people could easily dump millions toward them in all sorts of ways.

Literally go look at your local gop candidate donor numbers. These guys sell out our country for hilariously low amounts of money. They know they'll get insider info if they play ball and make millions ( they send the tips to cousin jimmy who runs the family hedge fund.)

There should be ranked choice voting, public funded campaigns, no super pacs, no dark money. we've made a whole system that makes it much easier for power to be collected by super wealthy folks that openly don't care about our whole society.

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u/Dry_Hunt_6935 1h ago

Computer repair.

Its something that I feel never got its proper wage set in stone. Its always been undersold and lowballed. I get that in an age with youtube, most people can figure it out, but I still feel we dont get paid decently for what we do. The amount of time spent troubleshooting, ordering and replacing parts, addressing unrelated but previously unknown issues, knowing what goes where, what affects certain things.

It sounds incredibly easy when its explained in layman terms, but we do a lot to diagnose and attempt to fix the issue. I get hardware related stuff generally doesnt pay great, and thats software and IT is where the money's at...but damn, I like working with my hands more than my brain lol. I dont deserve to be paid so low like its cheap labor.

Hardware people need love too lol.

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u/Big-Carpenter7921 4h ago

Teachers and first responders, all of them

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u/Several_Fog941 4h ago

NHS worker.

Forensic Pathologist.

Microbiologist.

Teacher.

First responders.

Basically anyone advancing technology, genetics, and medicine.

Visual artists and composers

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You didn't ask, but jobs that deserve a much LOWER salary:

"Influencers"/Streamers

OnlyFans

Shareholders of massive companies (Or anything that allows people to become billionaires)

Sports stars (Sorry, I know people love their sports but nobody should be paid millions for kicking a ball around a pitch when there are NHS workers struggling to make ends meet)

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u/Magenstrong 4h ago

well emts and paramedics

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u/Razathorn 4h ago

literally anything that happens in a school.

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u/Green-Match9341 4h ago

Municipal workers! Don’t get me wrong villages and township employees can make a lot but a lot of park district workers especially maintenance can be pretty underpaid for what they’re doing

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u/rlam81 4h ago

Early Childhood Educators (ECE)

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u/csch1992 4h ago

Grocery workers no doubt and those who deliver the food. Without these a lot of humans would suffer quite a lot!

I feel like a lot of people forget some work very hard to get food delivered to you and i

During covoid, we where called heros and that was the only time we where called that

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u/clear_flux 3h ago

Graphic designers. A brands design can change a companies entire financial outlook.

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u/NotJimmy97 3h ago

Dancing spiderman actor at children's birthday party forced to athletically dance around in front of unimpressed toddlers

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u/Sharkey__Shark 3h ago

Hospital environmental services (Janitors)

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u/UndoxxableOhioan 3h ago

Water and wastewater workers. Where would we be without basic sanitation?

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u/beakertongz 3h ago

teachers and social workers. they are the two noblest professions in our society, and they deserve to be compensated accordingly. as it stands, their labor is wildly under-appreciated & underpaid

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u/gatesaj85 3h ago

Flooring installer.

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u/blockametal 3h ago

Employed tradesman.

An electrician like myself can be self employed earning around £1200-£3500 a week. After all your overheads have been removed thats roughly £800 to £1400 on a grossly inflated overhead term. Especially if you work atleast 10 hours a day. At your own behest

An employed electrician probably takes home £700 to £900 a week. Working like a machine

No small amount. But for companies that only have you on payroll with no additional benefits its such bullshit for the amount of work they ask of you

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u/facehaver88 3h ago

All of them.

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u/Sokudon 2h ago

Minimum wage should be $30 an hour USD. Anything beyond that is a bonus.

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u/idontlikeburnttoast 2h ago

all public service jobs

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u/LaLaLaCAKE 2h ago

Sterile Processing Technicians.

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u/Otm_Shank1 2h ago

My job.

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u/Evol_Etah 2h ago

Those people who work on top of wind turbines and do thise scary wire repairs on top of bridges and cliffs

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u/RockonRocco 2h ago

Teachers easily

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u/broke_gamer_ 2h ago

Any type of first reaponder.

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u/artfuldawdg3r 2h ago

Paramedics in busy cities

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u/Formal-Try-2779 2h ago

Child care and aged care workers are seriously underpaid for the work they do and the responsibilities they have.

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u/Mission_Fart9750 2h ago

Nurses and kitchen workers. 

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u/drifters74 2h ago

First responders

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u/Malodoror 2h ago

Nobody should make more than 20x the lowest compensated employee.

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u/StretchyPlays 2h ago

EMTs and teachers.

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u/Zanoushe 2h ago

teachers

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u/NetworkSingularity 2h ago

Grad student researchers. They do most of the actual research at any university, and a lot of the cool science people hear about is done by people earning their PhD (which is also not nearly the guarantee of a well paying job it once was).

Most grad researchers make $20k-$30k, or up to $40k if you’re lucky enough to be unionized. It’s a bit wild when you think about it

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u/SailorMigraine 2h ago

Teachers, nurses, physical therapists, CNAs, and independent investigators for rare disease clinical trials

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u/Clear-Willingness226 2h ago

Cleaning staff

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u/Funny_Safe_6993 2h ago

Mother's ( good)

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u/JordanDoesTV 2h ago

Most of them tbh

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u/HappyBlacksmith2030 2h ago

Teachers and nurses and the CNA

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u/tanjo- 2h ago

Engineers, at least in my country they are underpaid substantially

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u/fartvoid 2h ago

Caregivers and support workers.

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u/StreetVagrant 1h ago

Millwrights