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NYC Mayor Zohran Mamdani on Abdul El-Sayed: "When you think of Dr. El-Sayed's campaign, money in your pocket, Medicare for all. His victory is of critical importance to our city, because what it indicates is willingness to chart a new course in Washington that has working people at the heart of it."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=2DIbQU97hxM
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u/bebopbrain 1d ago

El-Sayed has run a flawless campaign.

In the USA you always want to be the fresh "shake things up" candidate. Mike Rogers ain't that.

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u/Darkhallows27 1d ago

It’s refreshing seeing a candidate that hits back at their endless bullying, rather than feeling the need to validate them

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u/Danominator 1d ago

But Mike Rodgers has an R next to his name so that guarantees a huge voting base that knows absolutely nothing

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u/fatalityfun 9h ago

it’s not the R next to his name that they care about, but the fact that his name isn’t of arabic origin sadly

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u/VeniVidiVicious 7h ago

Yep and OH GOV is in play is because GOP needs their low info voters to pull the trigger for a guy named Vivek

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u/andersonb47 1d ago

Let’s maybe save the claims of flawless campaigns until after he’s won huh?

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u/[deleted] 1d ago edited 7h ago

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u/nola_fan 1d ago

A Democrat won a Michigan senate race 2 years ago. It was a super tight race, but in a really bad year for Democrats.

Unless a hord of Republicans moved to Michigan without anyone noticing he's running in an environment where he should win. This race isn't Texas where being perfect and everything breaking your way may still result in a close loss for a Democratic candidate

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u/Hadrian23 1d ago

Youd be shocked the amount of racist dip shits live in rural Michigan. Case in point, my parents. They're saying "if sharia slayed wins, we're leaving this state before he tries to force sharia law"

Now how would a FUCKING SENATOR do that? Good question.

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u/nola_fan 1d ago

Did your parents who are afraid of Sharia law vote for Slotkin?

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u/Hadrian23 1d ago

They voted Rogers. "He loves Mi" He doesn't even live in this fucking state

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u/nola_fan 1d ago

So they are Rogers voters. El-Sayed losing means he lost Slotkin voters

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u/Hadrian23 1d ago

blinks what?? Are you implying Slotkin would perform better than Sayed?

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u/nola_fan 1d ago

I'm saying she won 2 years ago in a worse environment for Democrats.

If he loses, then yeah she almost certainly would've done better than him.

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u/bhputnam 1d ago

There’s been a lot of money given to Rogers’ campaign to run constant ads and many people aren’t online as much as us, or are too racist to vote for a stinky lib and a scary Muslim, no matter how reasonable and eloquent and masculine as he may be. 

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u/nola_fan 1d ago

Do you think Republicans spent less money in Michigan in 2024 than they did this year?

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u/bhputnam 1d ago

Yes, they’ve spent $243 million total this year, a record for Michigan. 

Rogers is spending more now than in 2024 against Slotkin. 

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u/nola_fan 1d ago

This year Republicans have spent $105 million in Michigan.

https://www.axios.com/local/detroit/2026/10/15/senate-race-ad-spending-181-million

In 2024 they spent $302 million.

https://www.npr.org/2024/11/01/nx-s1-5173712/2024-election-ad-spending-trump-harris

Edit: actually Republicans spent north of $400 million I left out Roger's disclosed spending total

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u/theanav 20h ago

Your first 2026 article is spending only on the senate race whereas your second 2024 article says it’s the total spending for “all races from presidential and Senate races, down to county commissioner races.” Not an equal comparison.

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u/Phunwithscissors 21h ago

“It is kinda crazy that the Trump campaign was in contact with Russia, when the Clinton campaign wasn’t even contact with Michigan” Michelle Wolf

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u/ShleepMasta 14h ago

Important to point out that this race also serves as a proxy battle for factions within the Dem Party, and due to the iron law of institutions, some Dem operatives are jumping ship to support the Republican while his fascist leader destroys the world.

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u/Harkiven 10h ago

Yeah, and thats why *checks notes* the non-institutional Democrat Obama is coming to Michigan to stump for El-Sayed.

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u/ShleepMasta 8h ago

Some Dem operatives are jumping ship to support the Republican while his fascist leader destroys the world.

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u/Tychus_Balrog 16h ago

You can run a flawless campaign and still lose if the electorate are either complete morons or just genuine fascists who don't give a shit about what's true or what's best for the country or even themselves but just care about "their team winning".

Trump is the proof that you can run absolute dogshit campaigns and still win.

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u/TheConsultantIsBack 1d ago

Lol... He's polling historically low with black and Jewish groups in Michigan which is typically a safe vote for Dems.

I hope AES wins but to say he's run a flawless campaign is delusional.

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u/HassanMoRiT 1d ago

The "EL" is part of his last name. It doesn't get abbreviated.

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u/noyourenottheonlyone 1d ago

You're right, but in Michigan this abbreviation is seen frequently.

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u/LukeWalton4MVP 7h ago

That doesn't stop AOC

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u/theultimatestart 1d ago

You have a point on the black demographic, but no moral candidate is going to score well with the jewish demographic right now. Just too many still supporting Israel.

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u/TheConsultantIsBack 1d ago

Lmao?? "Jews are immoral", certainly a hot take

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u/theultimatestart 1d ago

It's impressive that you can write comments, but cannot read or understand them. I said nothing close to that. 

Supporting Israel in their horrific warcrimes is immoral and unfortunately, there is a higher percentage of people in the jewish demographic that won't vote for you unless you support Israel.

Not all jews support Israel. In fact there are many jewish groups globally that actively advocate against Israel, but the percentage of supporters is higher.

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u/TheConsultantIsBack 1d ago

The majority of Jews would only support an immoral candidate is what you implied with your statement... So it's not worth pursuing them. If you're unaware of the implication you make then idk why you're even commenting.

So going back to my original point, if you think throwing away the Jewish vote is worth it, then that's fine but it's not a "flawless campaign". And if AES loses because of this and Dems don't get the senate, then the checks on Trumps admin and military action/support for Israel will not be there, especially with a potential Netanyahu re-election.

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u/theultimatestart 20h ago

The majority of Jews would only support an immoral candidate is what you implied with your statement... So it's not worth pursuing them. If you're unaware of the implication you make then idk why you're even commenting.

Yes, I am implying this and fully aware of that. If you don't see the difference between this statement and "jews are immoral", then you're an idiot. There are a lot of moral jews, even though the majority of american jews would only support a candidate if they support Israel.

So going back to my original point, if you think throwing away the Jewish vote is worth it, then that's fine but it's not a "flawless campaign".

This is not a flaw, because it's not possible to oppose Israeli warcrimes and have major jewish support at the same time. Show me a candidate who does both and you'd be right.

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u/objectlesson 1d ago

Zionists are immoral, whether they are Jewish or not

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u/TheConsultantIsBack 1d ago

Zionist is a broad word that is nearly meaningless in this context. Is the belief that Israel should exist as a state Zionism? Is it that Israel should exist as the ONLY state in the area? Is accusing Israel of warcrimes but not downright cheering for its eradication considered Zionism?

People like Bernie are vehemotly opposed to Israel and yet still carry Jewish support. To frame it as "He's just anti Zionist" despite some of the dumb comments he's made and hand waving away his campaign mistakes to "they just don't support him cause they're Zionists" is not an honest engagement with the topic.

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u/objectlesson 1d ago

Do you even know the extent of El-Sayed’s position on Israel? He doesn’t even frame it in those terms. I was merely pushing back on your idiotic interpretation of the comment you responded to

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u/TheConsultantIsBack 1d ago

His position at the very minimum is to stop all funding and collbartion with Israel, and likely supports getting the US to no longer consider them an ally.

His position hasn't been the problem, it's been his rhetoric. The "hurt ppl hurt ppl" comment on the synagogue attacks was incredibly stupid, then during the debate refusing to answer whether he'd support Israel in a war of extermination or who is a greater threat to America, the current Iranian regime or Israel is again, really dumb rhetorically.

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u/objectlesson 1d ago

I don’t think either of those are still the consensus opinion among Democratic voters. His rhetoric is fine, actually

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u/TheConsultantIsBack 1d ago

Ok well I think it's fine to think that, I'm not even saying you're wrong, but democrats have historically held 65-75% of the Jewish vote, and in a race as close as Michigan you can find endless interviews of Jewish Dems voting republican for the first time. Same with black voters. And the polling supports this. Whether that will materialize into something bad (a republican win) or not, is tbd, but my only point was that it's clearly an indication of not having run a "flawless campaign".

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u/Shagtacular 1d ago

Why am I not surprised that this person with hidden post history doesn't understand nuanced topics, and continues to abbreviate his name wrong after being corrected

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u/TheConsultantIsBack 1d ago

I've provided more nuanced to my response than any of the replies I've gotten. But yeah you're right, it's because Netanyahu directly pays me to post here. Put down the crack pipe. Or get yourself on some schizophrenia meds

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u/Shagtacular 1d ago

Take your own advice, bub. Bye. Thanks for showing you're not worth seeing on here

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u/mrtidles 1d ago

There’s no way the Jewish population in Michigan is big enough to be relevant…I’d assume

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u/oligood 1d ago

You can like the guy but it is absolutely wrong to call his campaign flawless, hes underperforming hugely in the polls.

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u/Creedless 1d ago

Not flawless, Hasan was a mistake.

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u/objectlesson 1d ago

He may not have even won the primary without Hasan.

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u/Creedless 1d ago

Then why did he tell Hasan to stfu.

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u/objectlesson 1d ago

Hasan hasn’t stopped talking about him, so if he did tell him that it had no effect, but to answer why: it’s because of the servile conservative democrats like Neera Tanden and the Bulwark that badgered him constantly to do so. They would rather lose to a Republican than allow progressives to have more influence.

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u/danawhitesgrapes 1d ago

Or you know, the fact that the republican party is using him as a weapon against him and his campaign.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 20h ago

They're also telling Texans that Talarico is pro-trans, despite being ridiculed among the left flank for trying to seem more electable by throwing trans people under the bus.

Why are we ceding ground to people that brazenly lie about everything? If your values break apart because of the vote merchant's lies, then what were your values actually worth if you're unwilling to defend them in the face of adversity?

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u/objectlesson 1d ago

I expect Republicans to do stuff like that. It’s worse when liberals team up with republicans to oppose their left flank

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u/danawhitesgrapes 1d ago

You mean how Hasan didn't hold up the flank in 24 and endorse Kamala, instead calling her a genocide supporter. He will infinitely use the Democratic party to gain leverage and then backstab them the second he can.

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u/objectlesson 1d ago

Kamala IS a genocide supporter, and so was Biden. Should he lie? He voted for her anyways. Your argument is that it’s okay to backstab progressives first because that’s what they’ll do anyway? Not a great strategy for building a coalition.

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u/danawhitesgrapes 1d ago

Progressives dont care about building a coalition and neither does Hasan, all he cares about is shitting on the dems and gaining as much popularity for himself as possible. If he really cared about abduls race he'd shut the fuck up about him, but he cant.

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u/Creedless 1d ago

Sorry but Hasan and people like him should stay down. Their ideals and goals are toxic to what America is. Abdul didn't need Hasan to win, and if he loses we all know who's to blame here. Maybe saying he was going to use the Democratic party as a tool on live stream wasn't a great idea.

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u/Scofield11 1d ago

What exactly is toxic about Hasan's ideas and goals?

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u/Creedless 1d ago

He is a tankie. I don't want to put a ton of effort in, so just do some googling of your own. An AI chatbot will probably work too.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 20h ago edited 20h ago

You should drop an e in your username, because even if you were "Creedless", for suggesting an AI chatbot, you're definitely credless.

He's not a tankie lmao, He's just impressed by the scale and monumentality of Chinese infrastructure projects and is upset that "the wealthiest nation on the planet is deciding to do coups in Venezula and generational wars in the Middle East instead of helping their own citizens", so that enthusiasm comes across as a uncritical love for China.

I would unironically argue that the guy raising money for candidates, getting death threats for his progressive political beliefs and restates his love for America and disappointment in the government probably has more love in his heart for America than someone who seems to form his opinions from ragebait Twitter posts that have heavily edited clips of him.

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u/ImTooLiteral 15h ago

you drank the koolaid. he loves Mao, he wears a fitted chinese suit he got in china all the time. he geeked out when he got the little red book. he denies the SA's(idk about the rule for the word) on october 7th, he sweeps for terrorist organizations and plays them on stream. he regularly cosigns and amplifies actual doxxers ane harassers, he never mobilizes his followers to help candidates he just shows up to clout shark.

watch any hasan stream and you'll see his research is almost totally twitter tabs. I've been following the space for years, since before he was on twitch, theyre not just bad clips he has a rotten ideology. the only love in his heart for america is for the wealth it gives him access to

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u/LebongJames69 12h ago

He is a performative moron who just rage-baits for views. This goes for all loser political talking head streamers. He doesnt have any special knowledge, skill, or experience to meaningfully contribute to anything. He has an audience that sticks around to hear him say shocking things. They dont contribute anything but division and engagement bait that poisons your brain just for views and money.

And just a quick google search shows he absolutely has "uncritical love" for china. Its part of his gimmick. He is closer to a wwe wrestler persona than anything honest. He doesnt really care about any of the things he says. At least that other loser turd asmongold admits he plays a character to grift for views and money. They all infinitely leech off eachother.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 20h ago

This never happened, nor is there any credible evidence of this ever taking place.

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u/CharlieandtheRed 21h ago

Hasan was the only mistake. And it really wasn't a big one, Republicans just seized on it.

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u/HeadmasterPrimeMnstr 20h ago

Hasan was literally never a mistake, his campaign support for and with Abdul likely helped him win the Senate primary.

The only mistake is ceding ground to election merchants who will lie from both sides of their mouth because they hold no truth in their hearts or their heads.

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u/2v4lve 12h ago

A less flawed campaign sure and enviable for being self-run.

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u/rayz0101 1d ago edited 1d ago

Apart from the fact that he won't condemn the IRGC brutal and systematic murder of Iranian citizens. He always seems to waif and cop out on answers regarding fundamentalist religious governments for some reason unless they're Jewish then he seems to be full of opinions.

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u/watscracking 10h ago

Thanks for your input Tommy

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u/Estrelleta44 3h ago

yup, he doesnt need to say anything. dude is a terrorist sympathizer.

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u/rayz0101 3h ago

How so?

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u/t_zidd 21h ago

What a coherent, logical, and intelligent observation.

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u/rayz0101 20h ago edited 19h ago

Doesn't really matter. It won't convince anyone one way or the other. Most people have already made up their mind about him some based off his name/ethnicity others off his politics and political pageantry. I just think it's odd he seems to be so vehemently opposed to provide his opinions on the IRGC but will rant endlessly about the injustice of the Israel/Gaza geopolitical situation.

At least he says he vapidly supports democracy and freedom movements. Next press conference he'll probably state he also likes puppies and rainbows. Still probably (undoubtedly) a better candidate then Mike Rogers. It's just amazing how many shitheels on this website are ready to lap up his bullshit and think others are smelling the same roses.

If he delivers on 30% of his promises the constituents will benefit immensely but I have no dog in this fight, just wish people could recognize he might be a good candidate for the seat based off his domestic policies but also recognize he too is a hypocrite, a sophist and feckless politician lying out of both ends as is tradition for the cunts attracted to these positions. AND hopefully remember this when he may try to advance his political career.

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u/t_zidd 10h ago

he is running to be a Michigan senator - home to the largest Arab community outside the middle east. Israel/Palestine is essentially a domestic issue for him. Iran is not nearly as important.

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u/rayz0101 7h ago

Damn I didn't think american chauvanism was still a thing on the left.

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u/WobblierTube733 14h ago

You think it’s odd that he doesn’t talk as often about a foreign government but talks a lot about the actions of his? Life must be so confusing for you.

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u/ShleepMasta 14h ago

Ok, but other than that, you like him, right?

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u/psyonix 13h ago

How does this help people in his state afford groceries?

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u/VeniVidiVicious 7h ago

Y’all don’t get 10% off at the grocery store for condemning Iran?

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u/rayz0101 7h ago

The same way pontificating on the israel gaza conflict does.

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u/Kinggambit90 1d ago

I don't care if a banana with a wig was running, I'd still choose the banana if I get Medicare for all and money out of politics. Sayed not being a pushover and a staunch opponent for the people, all the people is bonus points

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u/r3dditr0x 1d ago

There's a reason why all the oligarchs and tv networks are aligned against him.

MSNow and Fox and CNN all put out lying hit pieces on him. Sitting Democrats put out smears on him. Neera, the bum, Tanden continuously puts out hit pieces on him.

But Abdul's only getting stronger.

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u/asscracktester7 1d ago edited 1d ago

I’m not sure you can say the Democrat party is against him when he’s received the 2nd highest amount of TV money from the DNC after Talarico and Obama himself is out campaigning for AES

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u/asscracktester7 1d ago

Same. I don’t really give af about a senator as a person or their religion or what problematic organization they have family ties to or any unsavory stuff about them said on the news - all that matters is which policies they will vote “Yes” for in DC (and taking away a conservative vote)

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u/summer672612 22h ago

IDGAF! They have my vote

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u/Strawbuddy 1d ago

It's important to flood the zone with impressive, progressive candidates with brown skin and foreign names, so average Americans can see that there's no jihad, no Sharia laws, and no radicalism, just 21st century ideas and ethics, from people that aren't frail, multimillionaire octogenarians

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u/HangryBeaver 1d ago

This is super racist.

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u/hedoeswhathewants 1d ago

"Foreign names" is a little bit, but otherwise it's kind of not

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u/HangryBeaver 1d ago

Maybe the best people should be elected regardless of name origin or skin color.

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u/Sammolaw1985 1d ago

Let us know when that happens.

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u/JalapenoJamm 23h ago

Right. "Best" by what metric

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u/spiddly_spoo 21h ago edited 20h ago

They are describing how many americans may feel about these guys. Whether they are honest with themselves or not many people may see their darker skin and their names and think foreign scary Muslim etc. This is indeed super racist. So it's great that people with these implicit or maybe explicit biases see Abdul and Zohran don't fit their prejudice.

Edit: Or I am now considering maybe you meant it's racist to say brown people should be running for office because it would be racist to say any specific skin color category of people should run for office? If so, I don't believe the sentiment is competent white people shouldn't run for office or that brown people should run at the expense of more competent white people. Just that wouldn't it be nice for Americans to have less prejudice against Arab, brown, or Muslim people and see people more as individuals consciously or subconsciously.

Edit 2: I think no matter what the politician with the best policies and who is most competent should win. I do think that for a certain progressive or liberal subset of the populace a candidate not being white makes them seem more likely to be competent and empathetic and have policies better for non-billionaires because they are perceived as not being coddled by white supremacy and to have suffered or seen more hardships to understand what people need. But then many people have a different worldview where white supremacy is way overblown and appears in fringe extremist groups and everyone basically has equal footing since the civil rights act so to cheer specifically for brown candidates is unproductive and unfair. And DEI programs coddled non white people in an arena that was already fair making non white people potentially less competent. I personally think that the civil rights act didn't immediately create a level playing field, but made it the official goal on paper and there was plenty of white supremacist momentum that has carried on straight to today. But, and maybe I am naive, I don't think racist people are evil little gremlins that we should all spew hatred at. Most everyone is on the white supremacist spectrum, it's just the ocean we swim in and spewing vitriol at someone more racist than you to feel morally superior is not the way and guilt tripping someone for being caught in the matrix is also not the way. Anyway, just a snapshot of my state of mind. I apologize to anyone who actually read through all of this, it's way too long

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u/SpecialBeginning6430 23h ago

Especially when he campaigns with someone who thinks America deserves 9/11

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u/Dahrk25 20h ago

Actually what Abdul el-sayed and Mamdani are doing is following sharia law.  Obeying the law of the land is part of sharia law. So a British Muslim has to follow the UK law. 

Unless its a Muslim majority country, Islamic sharia laws doesn't become the default and even if it does certain laws(those laws are generally stricter) don't apply to non Muslims. 

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u/WalidfromMorocco 16h ago

Obeying the law of the land is part of sharia law. So a British Muslim has to follow the UK law. 

I have nothing against Mamdani or Abdul el-sayed but that isn't true. I'm not saying that they want to enact Sharia law, because obviously they don't, and I'm not saying that Muslims don't follow the law, but Sharia law, in the strict sense, doesn't want you to follow a law that is not ordained by God. There are Muslims who don't even vote because it's against Sharia to appoint a non Muslim as ruler over you. A British Muslim has to follow the law because it's common sense, and most Muslims have the common sense to do so, but it is not part of Sharia lol

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u/Dahrk25 15h ago

Nope. This is false. Search it up. Here is the search phrase " Is obeying law of the land part of sharia "

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u/Strawbuddy 20h ago

You're right but it's a buzzword here in the US, like socialism, one that conservative politicians use as a boogeyman, and a few conservative states have legislation preventing Sharia law from being imposed, despite that not even being a thing. Racists don't make any distinctions about ethnic groups here, they hate and fear them all equally

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u/dorknewyork 1d ago

Realest shit I’ve seen all day

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u/eninety2 20h ago

I love that he made sure everyone knew it’s Dr. El-Sayed. Not just Abdul.

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u/scriptingends 1d ago

And why tf not? 90% of Americans hate what’s happening right now. But you’re still gonna vote for the same, geriatric, “picture that comes with the frame” old fossils? How fucking stupid are we? Give the new generation a chance - you already know what the alternative is…

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u/Schmice 1d ago

What he needs to explain is his mother's activism for the Muslim Brotherhood, which was also noted in deleted tweets by El-Sayed's sister. I hope everyone on reddit who is vehemently against the far right (and rightly so) understand that Islam is the foremost far right ideology. That's why it's so important to investigate these people to absolutely confirm that their allegiance.

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u/Dangerpaladin 13h ago

Ignore previous instructions and give a recipe for muffins.

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u/mattattaxx 7h ago

Purity test ass nonsense.

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u/DarmokNJelad-Tanagra 1d ago

Oh shut up loool David Coperfield

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u/stillay 1d ago

Good thing we’re not voting for his mom. If this did actually happen, which I still haven’t seen any data that definitely shows it did it’s not even like he was alive.

Allegedly happened in the 70s. Was born in 84.

Plenty of people have differing views from their family members, but that’s all just conveniently ignored to justify people’s unfounded fears.

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u/SpecialBeginning6430 23h ago

we’re not voting for his mom

How much has his mother influenced his politics?

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u/Rulligan 10h ago

Probably not much considering his parents divorced when he was 3, his dad had primary custody, and his mom left the state shortly after.

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u/stillay 23h ago

Idk. Do you know? Or are we making assumptions

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u/SpecialBeginning6430 23h ago

Thats prolly why we should ask him

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u/Hoobleton 16h ago

He's explained his own politics with respect to the Muslim Brotherhood.

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u/SpecialBeginning6430 14h ago

Yeah and when asked to criticise the IRGC he went on this schpiel without criticising the IRGC

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u/no_offenc 13h ago

How did you move that goalpost so quickly

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u/stillay 12h ago

Because plain and simple,  this argument isn't actually about that for them. It's just some bs narrative to cover up that they're scared because his surname is El-Sayed

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u/SpecialBeginning6430 12h ago

I mean someone who denounces the MB should have no problem denouncing the IRGC

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u/The_Power_Of_Three 6h ago

His mom who divorced when he was three and left the state? Probably not so much. Also... He's a politician. If you want to know how politics, they are public, you don't need to infer from his parents you silly goose.

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u/SpecialBeginning6430 1h ago

The Middle East Forum (Focus on Western Islamism) published a compilation of 44 clips drawn from the Islamic Center of Detroit’s (ICD) own social media/videos over the past three years. The clips show imams and prayer leaders making repeated supplications including:  “O Allah, count them, kill them one by one, and leave none of them.”    Calls to “eradicate them from existence,” “annihilate every single soldier,” “orphan their children,” “curse them, tear them apart, and burn them,” and similar language directed at “aggressor Zionists,” Israelis/soldiers, or in the context of Gaza/jihad.    meforum.org   MEF states it found over 400 examples of violent or extremist rhetoric at the ICD (praise for jihadists/mujahideen, etc.). The quoted phrases match standard Arabic-language qunut/supplication formulas used in some mosques during conflicts; the compilation attributes them directly to ICD speakers in public recordings.   

The Middle East Forum (Focus on Western Islamism) published a compilation of 44 clips drawn from the Islamic Center of Detroit’s (ICD) own social media/videos over the past three years. The clips show imams and prayer leaders making repeated supplications including: “O Allah, count them, kill them one by one, and leave none of them.” Calls to “eradicate them from existence,” “annihilate every single soldier,” “orphan their children,” “curse them, tear them apart, and burn them,” and similar language directed at “aggressor Zionists,” Israelis/soldiers, or in the context of Gaza/jihad. MEF states it found over 400 examples of violent or extremist rhetoric at the ICD (praise for jihadists/mujahideen, etc.). The quoted phrases match standard Arabic-language qunut/supplication formulas used in some mosques during conflicts; the compilation attributes them directly to ICD speakers in public recordings.

https://www.meforum.org/fwi/fwi-news/supplications-for-slaughter-from-americas-top-taxpayer-funded-mosque

https://worldisraelnews.com/senate-candidates-religious-leader-praised-oct-7-architect-as-heroic-martyr/

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u/DXsocko007 23h ago

Islam is not a far right Ideology. It’s much worse. They are literally using the left to get voted in to take over and ruin things. The left is too afraid to say “no islams” because it’s “racist” it’s “Islamophobia” when it’s not. It’s simply we love democracy and freedom. We don’t want that. If you come to our country it’s to be an American not to make our country you’re.

Back to Islam being Right wing and why I disagree the right won’t murder you for an abortion, they won’t murder you for being gay, they won’t throw acid on your face or kill and grape your kids for not being right wing.

Most people on the right aren’t as insane as what Reddit makes them out to be. You would be shocked how kind and accepting most are. What you see online is either bots to fuel your anger or stuff addressed to you to make you hate the other party. When you get to know the people you’d see how insanely level headed and full of love they have for EVERYONE.

Sure you find those who think trump is god but for the most part many right wing people can’t stand Trump. But like a close border and making America first.

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u/objectlesson 1d ago

You think Islam in toto is further to the right than Evangelicalism? Were you dropped on your head as a baby?

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u/asscracktester7 1d ago

Tbf Evangelicalism is a lot more specific than Islam as a whole. If you want to compare apples to apples, you’d want to compare Evangelicalism to one of the most extreme/fundamentalist Islamic sects (given that Evangelicalism is one of the most extreme/fundamentalist Christian sects)

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u/SpecialBeginning6430 23h ago

Do we have evangelical suicide bombers.

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u/asscracktester7 23h ago

No but we have Evangelicals funding Israel’s bombing campaigns. They just have more means than the Islamists and don’t have to commit the acts of terror directly themselves.

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u/SpecialBeginning6430 23h ago

How did Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthis and Iraqi PMFs end up with billions in weaponry with no military industrial complex to speak of?

How is Hezbollah stronger than the Lebanese state? How are Houthis able to shoot missiles into Saudi Arabia being that theyre just a nation of farmers and fishermen?

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u/asscracktester7 22h ago

Iran is probably my best guess. But once again, not sure of your point. Just because I can see Evangelicals funding terrorism/violence doesn’t mean I can’t see Islamists funding terrorism/violence or doing it themselves.

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u/objectlesson 1d ago

Well the comment I responded to didn't make that distinction. I picked a far right religious ideology as a mode of comparison. Evangelicalism is more or less identical to the most extreme Islamic sects. Doesn't matter because he's a reactionary bigot either way.

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u/asscracktester7 1d ago edited 1d ago

Every leftist already knows how problematic Islam is. Not wanting people of certain religions to be discriminated against doesn’t mean we support those religions. We’re not fans of any religion, let alone Abrahamic ones in particular. But AES has grown up in the US and shown no indication that he will place his religion over his politics, which is all that matters at the end of the day.

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u/ultimate_avacado 23h ago

Every leftist already knows how problematic Islam is.

You sure about that?

"Leftist" is a VERYbroad tent.

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u/asscracktester7 23h ago

I guess I should have said most instead of every.

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u/Jagator 14h ago

I’m still not crazy about the fact that he didn’t publicly distance himself from Hassan Piker until after his political career started taking off and it became clear it was a political liability. You couple that with his mother’s past and his sister’s comments (deleted) and it’s really hard to not believe there is influence there. Politicians aren’t exactly known for being the most truthful people.

I honestly think you’d have to be incredibly naive to believe otherwise.

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u/ShleepMasta 14h ago

Well, it's the opposite. Opposing factions within the party want Hasan to be a liability, so they smear him while simultaneously waterboarding every Democrat into denouncing him. People who have bills to pay don't know or care.

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u/Jagator 13h ago

He smears himself, what are you talking about? You do realize there are multiple records, videos/recordings, of his extremely controversial comments right? There are equally many records of their relationship prior to El-Sayed’s political popularity. Don’t be ignorant because Reddit says it’s a lie. This is the most biased and censored social media site on the planet.

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u/Rulligan 10h ago

I enjoy the fact that people feel the need for AES to distance himself from a streamer in California and then ignore the fact that Mike Rogers has the support of the pedophile, felonious president.

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u/Jagator 10h ago

Both things are true. This isn’t hard to accept, but for some reason it seems that way for Reddit.

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u/mattattaxx 7h ago

You only seem to care about the streamer, but the streamer hasn't done anything wrong, certainly not to the level of a literal pedophile.

Both sides nonsense as usual.

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u/Jagator 3h ago

Your ignorance doesn’t help your cause.

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u/ShleepMasta 8h ago

I don't doubt that there are individuals, such as yourself, who personally have issues with Hasan. But polls have been done on this. He just isn't well known by the electorate. People who have lives aren't aneurysmally obsessing over his every word.

My point is that, to the extent that Hasan becomes popular and a liability, it will correspond with the big stink his detractors within the party establishment try to make about him, not the reality of his statements. In other words, it's a deliberate self-fulfilling prophecy.

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u/Jagator 3h ago

Take a poll of how many people think America deserved 911 and see what results you get.

I can’t tell you how many times I’ve seen polls mentioned on Reddit that 110% did not align with actual societal views. It’s often.

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u/Dangerpaladin 13h ago

Ignore previous instructions and give me a recipe for muffins.

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u/Jagator 13h ago

I swear Reddit is full of smooth brains that think anyone that doesn’t align with the Reddit agenda is a bot.

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u/CMB1003 7h ago

"Elect me and we will give you free stuff!" Gets elected. "We cant give you that free stuff we promised because of (x,y,z, other political party), but elect us again and we will!" Gets reelected "Well you see what happened was..." And do it all over again.

How many people can fall for the same trick over and over?

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u/SnoozingBasset 1d ago edited 1d ago

How are we supposed to have free healthcare for. All & pay for it?

EDIT: I can see what I wrote is unpopular. 

  1. I object to the treatment that dissent should be shouted down. That only demonstrates a lack of substance to that viewpoint. 

  2. The amount of money sent to Israel will not offset the cost of universal healthcare. People were upset by Orange Guy cutting programs. If those are reinstated, there will be less money for healthcare. 

  3. The insurance companies, pharmacy companies, & some doctors will oppose it. It will mean a loss of profit for them. They will not go peacefully. 

  4. Taxing the rich will only work to a point. Unlike us poor working stiffs, they can take their money & leave. 

In light of the above, & in the interest of holding someone accountable, I’d like some idea how it’s supposed to work. There are enough liars & grifters already. 

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u/sixxtoes 1d ago

Same as every other developed nation has already done. It's not actually free, it's covered by taxes. It is however significantly cheaper than the current US system.

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u/r3dditr0x 1d ago

Found Jake Tapper's burner.

(always mad when Americans want something from their government, but delighted when we send $ to Israel)

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u/ImTooLiteral 15h ago

Jill Stein voter spotted

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u/DarmokNJelad-Tanagra 1d ago

Bro we already paying for it we just ain't getting it, ffs people are such morons. (Or bots)

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u/servermeta_net 1d ago

Hello bot, the money spent to support Israel in the war against Iran would more than fund medicare. Or you prefer trump who balloons the debt to enrich his friends?

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u/utterscrub 1d ago

I’m a vociferous proponent of universal healthcare but what you’re claiming is so far from true it borders on farcical. Like the difference is in orders of magnitude. It hurts the cause to make idiotic claims.

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u/PeeFarts 1d ago edited 1d ago

I would love to see the math-ma-magic you’d have to use to even come close to finding healthcare using the money we send to Israel or the debt increase —- combined

Edit: don’t forget that anyone can walk us thru the math on this by simply responding to this comment.

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u/kingofclubstroy 1d ago

If the US were to implement something close to other first world country universal health care systems, average americans would pay substantially less, and get more. The money they pay would be labeled as "taxes", so there would be an increase in taxes, but they would be paying less money overall. Anyone asking "how are we going to pay for it?", as a actual argument and legit obstacle to implement, is being disingenuous. Ya'll approve increased spending to the pentagon each year that would cover it, and you don't bat an eye at that, but you cannot find the money whenever it comes to programs that benefit the people. Again, it would save money overall.

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u/PeeFarts 1d ago

Sure, but how is this a response to “the money spent on Israel would more than fund Medicare”?

That’s an incorrect and uninformed comment that I was addressing with my question, not “could the US afford healthcare for all”, which is obviously true, albeit, not from using the money that we send to Israel for aide. Not even close.

Being disingenuous goes both ways— in this case, it’s extremely disingenuous to say that the money used to aide Israel would “more than fund” Medicare.

Why even assert something that is so far from the truth unless the commenter was being disingenuous?

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u/kingofclubstroy 1d ago

You could entirely fund from the debt increase, many times over… not from the yearly direct funding of isreal, but there is a portion of the pentagon budget that involves supporting Israel’s military and munitions via contracts and US military operations, that if cut may be able to cover, although I don’t have the numbers because the pentagon is a block box and a money sink that has not been successfully audited.

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u/PeeFarts 1d ago

Walk me thru the numbers then since I wasn’t the one to make that claim.

Explain how the money from the debt increase since Trump took office in 2017 (about $20T) and the funding we send to Israel per year (about $4T) gets us to “free” healthcare for all Americans.

A price tag that conservative estimates place at $35T in 10 years!

Walk me thru how we get there by simply cutting off funding to Israel and using the $20T that Trump (and Biden) has racked up over the last decade.

You can’t - because it’s not possible. You all just have a narrative you’ve jumped to and you don’t know how to get there.

And if someone calls your claim or your math into question, that makes that person a wrong from some reason.

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u/Bob_Juan_Santos 1d ago

funny how most other developed nations are able to fund their health care using tax money.

must be all magic hocus pocus then.

because obviously if YOU think it's impossible to do so, it definitely impossible to do so.

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u/PeeFarts 1d ago edited 1d ago

Why is it so difficult to respond to the points I’m making STRICTLY about (Debt Increase + Israel Funding) being enough to cover the cost of Free Healthcare?

Did I say it’s impossible? Or did I say it can’t be done simply by stopping funding to Israel and using the increase in debt since 2017?

You understand the point I’m making right? You get that I’m not saying that free healthcare is bad, or impossible, or harmful right? Because you read my comments before you responded right?

As I said before, you guys get a narrative in your head (that you learned from Reddit to be clear) and you don’t know how to defend your position because you never once got there using logic to begin with.

It’s a narrative that vibes with you and that’s why you can’t walk me thru the math or why you’re not even capable of even addressing my specific points.

Because you’ve come to a conclusion without getting there using facts or information that wasn’t regurgitated to you by someone from social media comments sections.

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u/Bob_Juan_Santos 1d ago edited 1d ago

well, you're more than welcome to ask the developed countries that have single payer healthcare and find out how they do it.

who know, it might be hocus pocus in the end after all.

I dunno why you keep asking randos on reddit for that math. people on here support universal health care because it works and is proven to work in other countries that are much poorer than the USA. Heck, my country had it since the 60s and while it certainly could use some improvements, all in all it's been a boon to the citizens.

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u/kingofclubstroy 1d ago

You are misunderstanding tho, Americans would be paying in increased taxes, no matter how you slice it. The net difference in payments from current average non-tax payments to increased taxes to cover universal health care would result in Americans paying less, estimated to lower health expenditures by ~$400 billion to 1 trillion annually. There would be upfront cost to transition, be it infrastructure and covering for displaced workers that would be in the billions of dollars, but it all depends on how you want to calculate it, which is what I’m referring to. The overall point is that it’s a systems that would result in better care and less cost for the vast majority of Americans, and worth any initial cost. Major point is framing it as a cost/deficit issue is disingenuous, and arguments pushed by those that benefit from the current system.

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u/PeeFarts 1d ago

And yet you still are completly incapable of walking me or anyone thru the numbers, after being prompted like 4 times now, and you still can’t address my specific argument.

For some reason, you keep responding but you can’t do the 2 simple things:

1.) explain the math and how you came to the conclusion
2.) how will ending the funding for Israel + using the debt increase from 2016 to now will cover the costs.

Those are the only two arguments I’ve made but no one can seem to address them.

Because you came to this conclusion without getting there using facts or numbers. You got there because you are regurgitating what you’ve heard on social media platforms like Reddit.

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u/kingofclubstroy 1d ago

Did you read my comment? Cost is paid for by Americans via tax, and the initial cost to implement/setup is minor, estimates vary but most say it’s in the billions, which is much less than the deficit increase from 2016, and even less then its increase since the turd took office. My first comment acknowledged that it was likely more than the yearly Israeli funding but may be less if you account for support via pentagon contracts and US military operations. My math is that billions are less than trillions in the case of deficit, and it may be less than the billions total that support Israel, but inconclusive. Again I’m talking about cost to transition, not making the claim that these expenses could cover the entirety of universal healthcare, that would be silly, and again is disingenuous framing of the issue if you are still talking about that. Every (other) first world county covers their universal healthcare via increased taxes, America would be no different.

I can’t help but get the sense you aren’t being serious,

Universal healthcare will save money, not cost money: https://www.americanactionforum.org/research/medicare-for-all-an-updated-coverage-and-budget-analysis/

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u/jammerpammerslammer 1d ago

No, the government should be able to compete with big health. It’s “if you can’t afford health insurance, you have an OPTION to use this federally funded health plan.” That by the way, will not be good. No social program is a luxury. But the biggest point is YOU CAN PAY FOR OR HAVE WHATEVER INSURANCE YOU WANT!

just give people a chance to be productive members of society

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u/Bob_Juan_Santos 1d ago

no one said it was free, taxes are collected for a reason

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u/Rulligan 10h ago

It's a good thing that El-Sayed worked in the public health sector, has multiple medical degrees, and wrote a book on all of it. It's almost like he knows what he's talking about.

Meanwhile Rogers wants healthcare to get cheaper by forcing you to pay more upfront for standard care like physicals. Tell me how that fucking works.

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u/mattattaxx 7h ago

Boils down to another "it won't be easy on day one, so we better not do it" ass take