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u/GamesForPlebs 8h ago

Couldn't cut another fifa game had to be a studio who made timeless games. I wish I could call EA's mom and let her know how how disappointed I am in her son

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u/Sellier123 8h ago

I mean, when was the last "timeless" game they made?

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u/goliathfasa 7h ago

Anthem. It was truly timeless.

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u/TheGreatMrMagoo 6h ago

Anthem was fantastic just needed more content. And released better than so many other games. I'll die on that hill

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u/Savingseanbean 6h ago

Anthem was dogshit even if it had 10 times the content.

It was a fundamentally extremely flawed game, we just really really liked the visuals.

There was no saving its horrible mismatch of gameplay,loot,level,enemy design with more content. it needed entire system redesigns.

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u/punchedboa 4h ago

Don’t forget how worthless the loot was. Nothing you did mattered.

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u/goliathfasa 3h ago

It was a great concept of a game. A good skeleton to build an actual game on.

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u/DM_ME_YOUR_MAMMARIES 6h ago

Anthem is the type of game that unironically needed Bungie level commitment and could've reliably gone toe to toe with Destiny.

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u/Starkiller2442 2h ago

Would have beat destiny hands down had they stuck with it like bungie has stuck with destiny.

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u/Rump-Buffalo 6h ago

What a lonely hill to try to die on

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u/dicjones 3h ago

I’ll die on that hill with him. Lol.

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u/AlsoOtto 6h ago

Even if we accept that Anthem was good, that's still seven years ago.

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u/H8thinmints 4h ago

Fuuuuuuuck no that wasn't 7 years?!?! damn

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u/Vegasmarine88 5h ago

Going to be honeat that was all on EA. Profit first mindset doesn't make good games. It makes buggy unfinished product but since the devs take the hate they likely dont care. Just buy another studio and destroy what made them special.

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u/crookeddy 5h ago

Look up the story of Anthem. There are countless articles. Absolutely NOT on "all on EA".

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u/voidox 4h ago

nah, facts and history is bad for these "EA killed the studio for no reason" ppl, legit trying to act like EA shut down Bioware for no reason at all -_-

as you say, with Anthem we literally have information on it's development hell and how it was NOT EA at all that resulted in that shit game, it was bioware.

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u/crookeddy 4h ago

The studio had 3 HUGE financial flops in a row. They wouldn't have survived that as an indy either.

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u/voidox 4h ago

yup, apparently that information is nothing and Bioware had nothing to do with being shut down, just insane stuff with some ppl

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u/crookeddy 3h ago

The real issue, of course, is the cost of AAA games. Basically one bad flop can end a successful company. And the thing is games like Andromeda weren't even that bad, but "not that bad" isn't good enough with the budgets we're talking about.

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u/435rouhnj234_209u 1h ago

Anthem is the type of game that needs to be top 3 in its genre for it to be successful, with an interesting enough premise that draws players from other online shooters to play it in the first place. If I were a dev, I'd start job searching as soon as I'm put on a live service project like that because chances of failure are 99.99%.

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u/DarkSpore117 7h ago

It doesn’t matter they’re timeless


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u/bman123457 6h ago

I mean, out of the games they listed in their own post. They are all 20 year old series (Anthem obviously doesnt count)

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u/Virtual_Link_3410 8h ago

Mass effect 2

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u/Prestigious_Sale_667 7h ago

16 years ago then lmao

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u/TerminallyEmployed 6h ago

Exactly can’t believe these guys are blinded by nostalgia, you can still go and play these games that’s not a problem, but BioWare sucks now.

The Veilguard sucked and was more about some writers non-binary conversation with her traditional immigrant parents than Dragons, that got through the chopping block just showing they have no idea how to make a good game anymore. Anyone with a brain could see that would be cringe and not immersive.

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u/Iccotak 6h ago

I know people like to harp on Taash, but all the characters in general were written poorly

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u/UtkuOfficial 3h ago

I never got why people were upset at her character when none of the other characters felt like actual people either.

They were all boring ass npcs.

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u/Iccotak 3h ago

In Taash’s case, for some they don’t like any lgbtq elements in their game (who miss that those were in the franchise since the beginning)

For others, it’s that the concepts of a nonbinary Qunari were handled so poorly in implementation, with so little nuance and dismissing existing lore, that it was laughable.

It really felt like blatant propaganda rather than genuine storytelling and character exploration. They was such a poorly written character.

And I know people like to say that story is optional, but they make it pretty clear that doing all of the character side stories is kind of essential for being successful in the end mission.

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u/UtkuOfficial 2h ago

Who the hell plays and rpg and skips the character side missions. It might be optional, but if you are an rpg player that shit is definitely not optional and often the best parts of the genre.

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u/OscarOzzieOzborne21 5h ago

It wasn’t “more about” no reason to over exaggerate. The non-binary character’s story is majorly just a side quest. You can ignore it. In fact, you can just leave Taash at the lighthouse and never bring them into battle.

Like, Lonesome road DLC in New Vegas sucks, but i ain’t saying the whole game is shit because of one optional side quest.

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u/Agreeable-Ad4079 6h ago

Yes, it’s been almost 20 years

You want them to keep bankrolling a failing business ?

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u/Shmirel 7h ago

I would really reccomend people replaying some of those "timeless games" like Mass effect series, because i did that this year, and holy shit, it was a real struggle.

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u/Automatic_Bus_7634 7h ago

I constantly come back to the mass effect series, it still holds up great, especially the legendary edition

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u/Substantial_Policy60 6h ago

Yeah, like personally I hate the Mako sections of 1 but those are pretty menial and only really a slog if you want to do all the side content, I do a random play through every couple years lol, I don’t even mind Andromeda but I usually skip that on replays of the series 

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u/Automatic_Bus_7634 5h ago

Legendary edition greatly improved the controls and Mako sections of Mass Effect 1

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u/Substantial_Policy60 2h ago

Its still just so boring driving across barren grey moons just to hit random bases and then slog all the way to grab random stuff that is pretty beneficial to the best ending

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u/Sellier123 7h ago

I shall as soon as the EA launcher isn't required to play them on steam!

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u/AlsoOtto 6h ago

I played the remastered Mass Effect trilogy recently and still had an absolute blast. Just curious, what games do you think hold up 10+ years later?

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u/crookeddy 5h ago

I would raise that - what newer games are actually better?

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u/Exotic_Insurance_610 7h ago

Got my wife into mass effect series. Loved 1 and 3 but was dissapointed in 2.

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u/Alternative_Bat_669 6h ago

2 does nothing for the overall story of mass effect.

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u/Exotic_Insurance_610 3h ago

Thats what she said.

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u/rootofallstevil 6h ago

I suppose if you played an unpatched PS3 version of ME1, then yes I agree you can call it a real struggle. But the legendary edition is really awesome and I can always go back to that.

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u/crookeddy 5h ago

What the heck do you play if Mass Effect is a slog to you?

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u/UtkuOfficial 3h ago

Im curious as well. Mass Effect is the pinnacle of western RPG in my eyes.

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u/dicjones 3h ago

Not to mention, at the time they were doing something truly unique. It was a planned trilogy from the very beginning.

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u/7listens 3h ago

I found the combat of 2 (the only one I played) pretty terrible. The movement and gunplay just felt so slow and clunky. I truly hated the gameplay but I loved the story and art so in the end I enjoyed it

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u/UtkuOfficial 3h ago

Mass effect is still as beautiful as the first day i laid my eyes upon it. I replay the series every 3 years and each time is wonderful.

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u/7listens 3h ago

Yeah i enjoyed Mass Effect 2 for the story and art. The gameplay? On the fun scale it was in the negative

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u/Jubachi99 8h ago

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u/Trade_King 8h ago

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