r/theydidthemath • • 1d ago

[Request] How long until the rubbing of sand destroy the name engraved on the gravestone?

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u/Hiruma_Nitsuje 1d ago

Without knowing how deeply the letters are carved there is no way of knowing, but given that this is only done once a year I would think many thousands of years to the point that natural erosion would be more of a concern than somebody wiping some sand on it once a year.

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u/ShakinBacon24 1d ago

If anything, isn’t there also an argument to make that filling in the cavities of the lettering protects them from being eroded by sea wind?

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u/courtlandthethreeth 1d ago

I think in addition to that, there would be build up of dirt, debris, mildew on the stone, so this once a year would likely just scrub some of that off.

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u/OHrangutan 1d ago

That sand will dry and fall out pretty quickly. Couple of days and a sprinkle of rain and gusts later nothing will be there.

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u/Then_Supermarket18 1d ago

I guess th sand has very little effect one way or t'other

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u/kbcool 1d ago

It's not the lettering that erodes it's the rock around it, ending up in it being level with the carving.

If anything the erosion also makes the carving deeper, but much slower than the erosion around it

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u/ShakinBacon24 1d ago

Well sure, the lettering is an empty space and so cannot be eroded - I should have phrased that better.

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u/VerbingNoun413 1d ago

It's that immortal bird sharpening its beak.

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u/OldGeekWeirdo 1d ago

Since these are war graves, I'd imagine that the government will replace it should that happen.

It would be a far different situation if this wasn't in a veteran's cemetery and there were private headstones.

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u/The_Ghast_Hunter 1d ago

The engineer's answer.

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u/reredthxt 2h ago

Defense contractor answer, the government is too cheap and disorganized to do that.

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u/mkujoe 1d ago

More interested in: how many cubic meters of sand needed. We know all the letters from the known names and bio information and the engraving depth

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u/throwaway-15879 1d ago

More than 4

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u/Secret-Ad-7909 1d ago

Modern pickup truck short beds can hold about 2 yards. You’re calling for more than 2 of those?

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u/SnooMaps7370 1d ago

go get a 90s full bed truck and just bring one.

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u/throwaway-15879 1d ago

4!

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u/wizardwil 1d ago

Well, that's more than 4

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u/virtual_human 1d ago

It's a very solemn place to visit and it's a shame that that America is mostly gone. When I went in 2009 there was a group of very young German soldiers there, nice to see. A few people gave them the stink eye but most people understood why, I assume, they were there.

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u/bd1223 1d ago

Been there myself. What's astonishing after seeing this huge cemetery is that less than half of the US heroes who died in Normandy are actually buried here. Families were given the option of burying the remains here or having them returned to the states.

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u/Daddy2NZ 1d ago

Lest we forget. Many countries who fought to liberate Europe, have forgotten. But the many towns and small communities in Europe haven't forgotten. Even teach it in their schools. While countries like UK, AU, NZ, now are all focused on internal take overs.

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u/akamsteeg 1d ago edited 1d ago

In The Netherlands, there's a program for people to adopt a wargrave. You assume the responsibility of taking care for it, visiting it for example on their date of birth and date of death, learning about the deceased, staying in contact with their family, keeping the cemetery's library on the deceased updated, etc. It's very popular, there are waiting lists. People, often families, participating in this are very proud of it but never advertise it. This is for the people who liberated The Netherlands. Period.

Btw, the Polish general Maczek commanded the 1st Polish Armoured Division that liberated parts of The Netherlands. He could not return back home after the war and ended up as a bartender in the UK. When the Dutch people found out his daughter was very ill, they raised money for treatment. Later on, he got a pension from the Dutch government. He's buried next to his soldiers at the cemetery in Breda, The Netherlands.

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u/ziplock9000 1d ago

Utter shite. The UK has nor forgotten.

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u/brandidge 1d ago

You’ve got people cheering people terrorising their community. You’ve civilians calling for refugees to be shot and imprisoned. They might wear a poppy but they don’t seem to understand what the soldiers fought for.

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u/Upstairs-Hedgehog575 1d ago

Not everyone does, but the majority do. 

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u/Capitan_Scythe 1d ago

There are people calling the Royal National Lifeboat Institute traitors for rescuing other humans because they're asylum seekers.

The Portsmouth lifeboat station had to be temporarily closed because of the abuse they received. It got bad enough that the police had to step in.

These are volunteers who risk their lives saving anyone in distress, regardless of their origin or the weather, who have been called "scum" and "yellowbellies".

You can try to argue that these are a minority of shitty people but the fact they felt so confident to act openly is a disgusting indication of the current political landscape.

But sure, let's all wear a poppy once a year and pretend that we still honour the call to arms to fight on behalf of another nation against facism.

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u/Upstairs-Hedgehog575 1d ago

Internal take overs?

The U.K. still teaches it in their schools. We haven’t forgotten and I doubt Australia and New Zealand have either. 

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u/Busterlimes 15h ago

Thats why so many countries are preparing for WW III

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u/Rammipallero 1d ago

The US just decided to take the side of the Nazis in the modern era.

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u/The_B4dM4n_Bill 1d ago

? Why would they? Americans barely learn about the rest of the world in school. Id expect it to be the same in a vice versa scenario

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u/Then_Supermarket18 1d ago

There's a NEW Zealand now?

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u/brentspar 1d ago

It used to be called New America, but we changed it by executive order

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u/Dry-Lifeguard1081 1d ago

My American history class on specifically this had to list the 5 names of the beaches and the main countries who took said beaches, then list out the other countries that took part.

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u/cajunjoel 1d ago

The fact that americans don't learn about this is a failing of the american government at large, not the american people.

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u/RelevantTrash9745 1d ago

The American legal system itself states that ignorance is not a defense lol

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u/13Fleas 1d ago

Having visited here I was impressed how well France and the United States take care of this place. I did not know they filled the lettering with sand (nice touch). Being retired military with the thought of bringing everyone home, I was OK with this place.

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u/Fuzzy_Park109 1d ago edited 1d ago

This war was a turning point for the planet, the one that ushered in the Age of Atomic Weapons. Absolutely new levels of warfare.

They have allowed us to get farther then we would have without them. A protracted global Forever war of ever improved chemical and biological weapons awaited this planet in rat infested miles long trenches.

We have navigated some of the best outcomes possible while living in one of the those middle of the road timelines that could have been so much worse. Star Trek was on the table, but so was The Road.

Proxy wars are preferable to an irradiated wasteland devoid of life, which is preferable to a hellscape of the global combat that never ends, until it does, this outcome being equally devoid of life.. We just need to keep holding our head above water, just keep holding out. 50/50 if we'l get there again, and another 50/50 if we'll choose StarTrek oven Eulisium/Terminator, but we're still kicking and maintaining a large and diverse population/Gene Pool.

We're so close.

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u/C0RNFIELDS 18h ago

I like to believe that the Great War was avoidable, and that it's start was a concise decision by those who had not yet experienced fully industrialized warfare.

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u/gnpfrslo 1d ago

Europe is not, in fact, the center of the universe.

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u/decoran_ 1d ago

What?

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u/frejling 1d ago

It was called “World War”

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u/Fuzzy_Park109 1d ago

Who said it was

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u/backhand_english 14h ago

Its not... It is however, just above it, as witnessed here

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u/Leroyf1969 1d ago

I’d guess some sort of protectant once the gold is there would be good. But I do think this is a nice gesture of gratitude toward the soldiers who fought for them.