r/Tengwar • • Jan 23 '24

Please Read Before Posting

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Welcome to r/Tengwar, where we can discuss all things related to Tolkien's writing systems: Tengwar, Cirth, and Sarati.

If you want to learn Tengwar yourself, we recommend the following resources:

If you want to get a transcription, check with the following tools before posting:

As the tools above aren't perfect, never forget to double-check important transcriptions like for tattoos or jewelry by asking someone knowledgeable, such as the members of this subreddit.


Please note that simply changing English text to a Tengwar font only produces unreadable gibberish. If you are trying to figure out the meaning of some Tengwar without any tehtar (vowel diacritics/accents) or tehtar that aren't aligned with the letters below them it likely is such a mistaken attempt at transliterating. The community calls this the "Mode of Baloneyland", due to its surface-level similarity with the tehtar-less mode of Beleriand.


r/Tengwar • • 15h ago

are there other good fonts for tengwar?

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i'm thinking of getting a tattoo but i don't like the fonts on tecendil enough to put that on my body. do y'all know where i can find other fonts? or should i just try to design one myself?


r/Tengwar • • 1d ago

Is this Sindarin text correct?

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So, this is Gandalf’s “All we have to decide…” quote in Sindarin. I got it from Tecendil, which showed me a translation by a user named Elaran, who as far as I’ve investigated is a great reference for translations.
I just want to make sure it’s a good reference since it’s for a tattoo (how original lol) and I’ve only found posts that verify the English transliteration instead of an actual translation


r/Tengwar • • 1d ago

Tattoo help!

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my friend wants her first tattoo.. a few friends tried transcribing, i told them I could ask Reddit.. i dont know much about this, so can anyone help tell us which one is the more accurate or if we did something wrong? Bcuz i know you cant rlly translate iykwim.

Thank you!!


r/Tengwar • • 1d ago

Tattoo help again

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r/Tengwar • • 2d ago

Thorin quote in Cirth

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Attempting to translate Thorin's famous last words into Cirth:
"If more of us valued food and cheer and song
above hoarded gold, the world would be merrier"

I used Glǽmscribe as suggested and ended up with this. Could anyone please help with checking for accuracy? This will likely become a tattoo, so I obviously want to get it right!

Edit: I mistyped the quote above. The actual text reads:
"If more of us valued food and cheer and song
above hoarded gold, it would be a merrier world."


r/Tengwar • • 3d ago

Tengwar transcription check for a LOTR wedding gift

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Hi everyone!

I'm hoping someone knowledgeable about Tengwar could help verify a transcription before we have it permanently printed on a wedding gift.

The couple are huge Lord of the Rings fans and got engaged in Hobbiton, New Zealand. We're framing a photograph of the exact Hobbit hole where they got engaged, with two intertwined gold rings and the following inscription:

"One love to rule them all, two rings to bind them, and neither to meet the fire."

We want to keep the wording in English but write it using Tengwar. We've used Tecendil's English mode with the Annatar Italic font.

Could someone please confirm whether the transcription is accurate, particularly the spelling, punctuation, and letter choices? We're also open to suggestions for making it look more authentic to Tolkien's writing.

Thank you so much!


r/Tengwar • • 3d ago

Help with tattoo translation/transliteration

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Hello everyone I am looking to get a tattoo and would love to translate this quote: "Do you think I care for you so little that betraying me would make a difference?"

Because the vocabulary doesn't translate perfectly into Elven languages, I want to do an English transliteration.

I have played around with Tecendil, but before I put permanent ink on my body, I want to be sure.

Could anyone verify the correct Tengwar script for these?


r/Tengwar • • 5d ago

Help in confirming Peace written

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Hey all, been doing some research recently and believe I have the correct information but wanted to confirm with others who are definitely more knowledgeable with the language than I.
I am wanting to get the word Peace tattooed and believe that would be Îdh or sîdh in Sindarin then written in Tengwar would be the attached image. Thanks in advance for your help all!


r/Tengwar • • 5d ago

Translation / grammar - spot check request

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Howdy, I was never good with wording (even in English)... Mathing person here.

Can someone who knows ball please help me validate this rendering?
If there is feedback or a change request, please apply the corrected rendering suggestion and paste it in the comment?

Thank you all for running this thread.


r/Tengwar • • 6d ago

Tolkien language found in college lounge, please translate

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r/Tengwar • • 6d ago

Potential Tattoo Design - Confirmation of Elvish Text

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I'm considering using this design from a t shirt for a tattoo. I simply (perhaps not simply) wanted to confirm what the text says in Tengwar. I believe/hope it's the inscription from the One Ring. Any help is appreciated. Thanks!


r/Tengwar • • 7d ago

Ayuda por favoooooor

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Quisera que alguien me ayude

Quiero tatuarme la sfechas de nacimiento de mis hijas en Tengwar. Son las siguientes:

Dieciocho de septiembre de dos mil doce

Uno de septiembre de dos mil quince

Veintinueve de agosto de dos mil veinte

Alguien me puede ayudar para ser lo más fiable posible por favor


r/Tengwar • • 7d ago

Quisera que alguien me ayude

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Quiero tatuarme la sfechas de nacimiento de mis hijas en Tengwar. Son las siguientes:

Dieciocho de septiembre de dos mil doce

Uno de septiembre de dos mil quince

Veintinueve de agosto de dos mil veinte

Alguien me puede ayudar para ser lo más fiable posible por favor?


r/Tengwar • • 7d ago

Tattoo check! :)

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Hi, hoping to get this as a tattoo soon, just want to double check the translation is correct!! Thank you!


r/Tengwar • • 8d ago

Help with an Andúril Cirth inscription for a tattoo.

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I'm getting Andúril from The Lord of the Rings tattooed down my shin. From my understanding the original blade says "Anar Nányë Andúril i né Narsil i macil Elendilo Lercuvanten i móli Mordórëo Isil" which is loosely "Sun- I am Andúril who once was Narsil, sword of Elendil. The slaves of Mordor shall flee from me-Moon."

I'd like to shorten the original blade inscription to say Nányë Andúril. Lercuvanten i móli Mordórëo. "I am Andúril. The slaves of Mordor shall flee from me." (I think) but I lack the understanding to know which runes mean which words. I know there are 15 "phrases/words" in runes but only 14 in the translation so I'm guessing its not as easy as just take some of the runes out.

Could someone please provide an accurate transcription of this shortened phrase using the Angerthas Eregion runes or point me in the right direction?

Please forgive me if any of this is incorrect, I'm a huge Lord of the Rings fan but not exactly a scholar. This is for a permanent tattoo, so accuracy is very important to me. I greatly appreciate any help anyone can give me.

Thank you!


r/Tengwar • • 8d ago

Trying to learn again and I have a few gaps in my understanding

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I'm trying to pick up tengwar transliteration again and learning from Amanye Tenceli this time. Please help me figure out these pieces!

  1. First off - I know that I was wrong about the first assumption at the top of the list (open and closed), F and V don't follow it so it's clearly not a true rule. So are there any discernable patterns that match to the shapes, or did I just make that all up?

  2. The yellow on the right side is covering 2 other tengwar that I don't understand. Are they vowels, consonants, or neither?

  3. R (green) has 2 tengwar - which do I use when? If I'm just learning this for my own fun, could I just pick one of the two to use?

  4. S and Z have 2 tengwar each, so is there one in particular that I should stick with for each?

  5. Bue is for gh as in 'hugh'. So it's silent?

  6. How are the 2 orange ones different from each other?

  7. Bonus question! When I learned this over 10 years ago as I taught myself, I had an ending -y as 2 dots below the previous letter. Where the heck did I come up with that? Was that from my own brain?


r/Tengwar • • 8d ago

Engagement ring for my future husband!!

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r/Tengwar • • 8d ago

First try at Tengwar writing (Proverbs 7:4, translated to Quenya)

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Written by hand on an e-ink tablet.

Initial phrase: "Say to Wisdom: You are my sister! And call understanding your friend."

Quenya translation: "Á quetë Sailien: Elyë nésanya! Ar á esta handë meldetya."

Sailien (= "to Wisdom) is neo-quenya, made by extracting "saila" from the term "alasaila" (= unwise). I know there is also "nolwë" which also means wisdom, but from what I could gather that term has more to do with having deep knowledge of things, rather than the more spiritual connotation that the Proverbs passage has.

On that note, I was surprised to discover that Tengwar even has its own punctuation symbols! Very intricate writing system.


I'm very new to both Quenya and Tengwar. Was my translation roughly correct? Did I make any writing mistakes? Constructive feedback is welcome.


r/Tengwar • • 8d ago

Help!!

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Hy guys! I was planning to get a new tattoo, i just want to know what the translation of “my son, live your life with lightness” would’ve been. I saw a website that converts English characters into sindarin, should i trust that?


r/Tengwar • • 8d ago

Translation help (for matching tattoos)

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Hello! Can anyone help me and my best friend translate the following:

  1. Does it have legs?
  2. It sometimes has legs.

It’s from a rly funny moment that’s a deep cut of our interests (iykyk).

Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! 😊


r/Tengwar • • 9d ago

Can someone translate this ​Elvish letter?

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A little bit of context. My friend got a letter for last year Christmas written in elvish language. She tried everything to translate it but was no success. As her last resort she gave it to me but little do I know myself so I came here to try to ask for help. You might say why not ask the person that gave the letter, well that person is not around anymore so it would be hard to reach them. If anyone might know it would be a huge help and hopefully it means something kind.


r/Tengwar • • 9d ago

[UK] Looking for a penpal to write in English Mode

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I'm fluent in the English Mode and would love to have a regular penpal to write handwritten letters/snail mail with! Preferably in the UK but open to other countries too :)

Hope to find you out there, friends.


r/Tengwar • • 10d ago

Please help me verify, its going inside of my wedding ring

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Hey guys first time here. Can someone please verify this for me. Thank you so much in advance.


r/Tengwar • • 11d ago

Amon Amarth - “Upphaf” in Cirth

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I’ve been really enjoying Amon Amarth’s new album, “The Allfather Awakens”. One of the tracks, “Uphaff,” is an acoustic song which has lyrics taken from the first 5 stanzas of Henry Adam’s Bellows’ English translation of Völuspá. Amon Amarth’s name comes from Sindarin even if their lyrical content doesn’t reference Tolkien’s Middle-earth, so it felt appropriate to mix this bit of Norse mythology with Tolkien’s invented Cirth.

These are the lyrics as sung / growled in “Upphaf,” so there are a few very minor differences from Bellows’ translation such as the use of Midgard instead of Mithgarth and “cold waves” instead of “cool waves”.