r/politics • u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois • 8h ago
No Paywall Vance ‘disgusted’ by Republicans decrying Ramaswamy ad with Acton’s mother
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u/cad_internet 8h ago
Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern.
Yeah, this guy is totally on brand.
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u/iceflame1211 8h ago
He said basically the same thing about the lies about Haitians he made up/helped spread.
"Appropriateness" and "truth" aren't really things the Republican party is capable of anymore.
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u/itsmuddy 8h ago
He was told there wasn’t going to be any fact checking.
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u/Thrashosaurus_Wrecks 8h ago
I still don't understand why the Harris campaign didn't clip that and put it into every campaign ad for the rest of the election cycle.
I want to know when I'm wrong, so I can make better decisions that are informed by facts. Why is that a bad thing?
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u/wo_lo_lo Texas 8h ago
They were too busy trying to appease literally everyone while impressing literally no one.
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u/kingsumo_1 Oregon 8h ago
That's a perfect description. Walz was doing really good work for awhile there. They should have leaned into his approach rather than tempering him into theirs. It's sad that it should be that way, but it frankly is.
Conservatives weren't going to vote for her, so campaigning with them was a waste of time. And there is a large swath that needs to be enthused. And her campaign failed on that front as well.
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u/Thrashosaurus_Wrecks 8h ago
Exactly that. Shutting down Walz calling them weird was one of the worst decisions they made. It was so effective, and all their responses just proved his point. But no, they had to take the high road and fall off a cliff.
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u/Paizzu 6h ago edited 6h ago
Walz was doing really good work for awhile there. They should have leaned into his approach rather than tempering him into theirs.
I miss Walz outright calling Musk a "dipshit." We need more blunt honesty directed towards the "weirdos" affiliated with the Republican party.
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u/djanes376 Illinois 4h ago
I believe he said musk was ‘skipping around like a dipshit’. One of my favorite quotes in politics. The DNC did Walz dirty.
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u/Decent_Cheesecake_29 7h ago
Kamala’s campaign turned to shit the instant the DNC consultants took over at the convention.
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u/kingsumo_1 Oregon 6h ago
Yup. We seriously need to get all of them out of there. If the option on one side is literally fascism led my fucking Trump, and the best we can pull is essentially "well, we'll probably win this time" there is a HUGE gaping issue that needs to be addressed.
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u/SgtSlaughterEX 8h ago
The Beyonce endorsement was a dumpster fire. Literally everyone left and was mad she didn't sing. At least we got to saw Megan the stallion twerk at a political rally.
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u/underpants-gnome Ohio 7h ago
America has far too many people that are stupid enough to vote for the side that openly admits, "yeah we just make up whatever shit sounds good to help us gain more power" and think everything is going to turn out fine. We can all see how that's working out 2 years into a trump/vance administration.
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u/kia75 8h ago
Harris thought that she was guaranteed a win against Donald Trump so she concentrated on building bridges with all of the non-Trump Republicans. She was trying to set up a post-Trump coalition.
The problem is that building bridges to Republicans both alienated her left-leaning base, causing them to not want to vote for her, and very few of the "post-Trump Republicans" bothered to switch their vote for her, they either held their nose while they voted for Trump despite Harris's efforts, or at best just didn't vote for Trump.
Democrats keep on trying to build bridges with people who don't want any bridges built to them!
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u/So-Called_Lunatic Kentucky 7h ago
For once they need to take a page out of Sarah Palin's book and say thanks, but no thanks on that bridge to nowhere.
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u/meTspysball California 6h ago
It’s the whole conservative mindset. Think about what you want to do and make up the excuse for it after.
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u/Picnicpanther California 5h ago
Hard truth: because people in the center and right think of “fact checking” as gotcha journalism instead of something that yknow determines whether someone is lying their ass off or not
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u/Jesbro64 7h ago
Because they didn't want to seem too mean or insulting to Republicans.
That debate was embarassing for both candidates and I say that as a big Walz fan.
Walz was tripping over himself to agree wirh Vance or seem like him and Vance were more or less on the same page.
It was insane. Democratic consultants are a plague. That's probably too generous though. More likely the powers that be in the democratic party want the party to be Republicans-lite or diet GOP so they can remain palatable to their corporate overlords, I mean donors.
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u/petrovmendicant 7h ago
In a normal world, he would have been more sly or masked it and said, "scrutinizing," "validating," or something to that effect. Literally and openly complaining about "fact-checking" in a live vice-presidential debate and then winning the election anyway is bonkers crazy...but not here in America.
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u/Willchud 5h ago
“If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that’s what I’m going to do, Dana, because you guys are completely letting Kamala Harris coast,” Vance said.
The bold part just means lying.
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u/DrunkAndHornyGuy 8h ago
Newt Gingrich summoned this up like 10 years ago. Republican voters want to be told what they feel is true, not what actually is true.
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u/OddWorldliness989 7h ago
Is he the same guy who wanted open marriage so he can bang as many chics as he can?
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u/doesamulletmakeaman Michigan 7h ago
In no point in his entire life have I seen evidence there would be enough women to want to bang him to justify that request
This is also the same guy hegseth announced is one of the trifecta of leaders on that new bullshit panel. I opened his wiki because I already forgot the name of it and I’m happy to say I couldn’t find it on there either
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u/stokelydokely 5h ago
What the fuck, TIL that Newt Gingrich isn't dead. I'm sure I haven't seen him pop up in any news clips or political endorsements in the last couple of years, at least. But he just wrote a book! He posted on Instagram five goddamn hours ago!
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u/HoightyToighty 6h ago
I believe he was chasing women while his wife was sick in the hospital with cancer
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u/92eph 8h ago
Same with morality and honor. Ironic given their affinity for “Christian values”
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u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois 8h ago edited 8h ago
Yep, this is MAGA today, and this has always been MAGA. Both immoral and amoral, completely valueless, and lacking of any empathy to a pathological degree.
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u/TheGivingStump 8h ago
I'd say they are more immoral than amoral, and they deeply value cruelty
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u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois 8h ago
No argument here. They are both I think. Certainly immoral in their actions, but also amoral in their sycophantic following of their pos leader. I will edit.
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u/AndThisGuyPeedOnIt 8h ago
Never admit you were wrong. Never take any responsibility. Blame and deflect until, worse case scenario, you find a scapegoat to take the fall.
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u/supercyberlurker 8h ago
It's disturbing how he's outright saying that only winning matters.
He's openly telling Republicans to go as low as they can.
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u/Thrashosaurus_Wrecks 8h ago
He's been saying that the entire time. He made up the lie about Haitian immigrants eating cats and dogs to "start a conversation." He refused to debate Walz unless they agreed to "no fact checking." He's never been concerned with the truth.
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u/Gibonius 8h ago
He said that straight up during the 2024 campaign when he admitted lying about the "eating cats and dogs" story. Truth absolutely doesn't matter to them.
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u/FartyJizzums 8h ago
Cruelty is a selling point for the subhuman MAGA cult. They live for this shit.
"Owning the Libs." is what gets these pedophile worshippers hard. The more cruel and inhumane us non-cultists are treated, the better in their eyes.
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u/Bluestained 8h ago
Time to run some adverts about how a drug addled addicts son’s not fit for high office then.
Democrats need to fight dickheads with fire now.
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u/TheBestGhost 8h ago
Not even enough awareness to read the room. It’s a weird flex on his part thinking it somehow makes him appear strong
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u/ElysiumMidknight 8h ago
And this is something that'll absolutely follow him when he inevitably tries to run for the presidency in 2028. You aren't going to shake not condemning an ad of a woman who remained married to a monster who raped her own daughter.
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u/ChiGuy6124 Illinois 8h ago edited 8h ago
The video: https://x.com/OhioCrawler/status/2112341856256409759
“I have to admit that I’m a little bit disgusted when I see Republicans across the country who are whining more about that advertisement than they are about what the congressional Democrats and other Democrats want to do to the United States of America,” Vance said at a fraud task force press conference Wednesday."
"The ad features the mother of Ramaswamy’s Democratic opponent, Amy Acton, who accuses Acton of being a “liar” and saying “my daughter needs help.”
"Acton’s brother released a statement and a competing video hours later saying that he and Acton have been estranged from their mother for years because she stayed married to the man who sexually abused Acton at a young age. Acton was removed from her mother’s care at the age of 12, something unmentioned in the Ramaswamy ad."
"The personal nature and controversy surrounding the ad led Democrats and some Republicans to condemn it and call on Ramaswamy, who admitted Tuesday that the ad was from his campaign, to change course."
"Axios reported Tuesday that Ramaswamy’s campaign will now spend $4 million on airing the ad statewide."
"Vance, a former Ohio senator, said Wednesday that he is not concerned about the ad and is only focused on Republicans winning Ohio."
“Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern,” Vance said."
"The initial video – which was shared widely on social media, including by the president’s eldest son, Donald Trump Jr. – has been roiling the gubernatorial race since it first showed up on social media, bringing the abuse Democratic nominee Amy Acton said she suffered at the hands of her stepfather to the forefront."
"Democrats condemned the spot, and even some Republicans – including Nikki Haley and Meghan McCain – were critical. But Ohio Republicans have so far been quiet, and Vance’s remarks appeared to be an attempt to keep the party in line during an especially fraught moment."
"On Tuesday morning, Acton’s campaign released a statement from her brother, Philip Stearns, denouncing the video and linking it to Ramaswamy."
“It’s not surprising that Vivek Ramaswamy has stooped to such a despicable low as to attempt to turn the sexual abuse Amy endured at twelve years old from our birth mother’s husband into a political talking point,” Stearns said. “After he was arrested and Amy and I were removed from their custody, our birth mother stayed married to Amy’s rapist until he died.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/jd-vance-tells-republicans-stop-163635695.html
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u/jmchao New York 8h ago
Textbook argument for power by any means. Not as charismatic as Trump, but 100% as dangerous.
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u/Fuck-WestJet 8h ago
I actually think Vance is more dangerous as he doesn't have stupid pet projects to occupy his time.
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u/MonkeyWrench1973 8h ago
And is 100% not bothered by things like integrity and telling the truth. Trump has told tens of thousands verified lies while in Office. Vance lives his life saying "Pffftttt. Amatuer" and works very hard every day to not tell the truth in any utterance.
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u/morsindutus 8h ago
Trump is a consummate bullshit artist. Vance is a liar. Trump doesn't know or care what the truth is, he just spouts whatever nonsense crosses his battered neurons. Vance knows the truth and chooses to explicitly lie to further his fascist ideology.
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u/SanchoPandas Oregon 6h ago
And he is closely coached, mentored and monitored by the billionaires running this admin.
Vance is the hope upon which their plans to formally enact end times fascism rests.
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u/GraceMcClellans 6h ago
His entire career beginning with college has been planned, funded, and coached by Thiel. It's not a conspiracy theory or a secret, it's verifiable reality.
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u/SanchoPandas Oregon 6h ago
Yup. Not a theory. It’s a literal conspiracy. Thiel is conspiring with Vance to fuck us all and they aren’t even trying to hide it.
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u/donkeyrocket 8h ago
On the flip side, it’s yet to be seen if he can command the party quite like Trump.
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u/seeker4482 4h ago
he's too incompetent to order some fuckin donuts, let alone cultivate the same kind of charisma as trump
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u/Exact-Kale3070 8h ago
he literally could not suck more. literally. the betrayal of his kids and wife. the betrayal of his voters. the betrayal of his country. there is no bottom.
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u/detail_giraffe 8h ago
There was probably a time when I would have thought he would be a better president than Trump at least, but he's just disgusting all the way down. If he runs in the next Presidential election I may switch my registration just so I can vote against him in the primary.
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u/Tiny_Structure_7 North Carolina 8h ago
He's disgusted that Republicans push back on that disgusting ad rather than believe all his LIES about Democrats. What an asshole.
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u/nhavar 8h ago
It's always "but the Democrats are worse, move along now" and not "Well DAMN that's horrible! Quit that!"
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u/specqq 8h ago
Just imagine how many more people the Democrats would be executing, and their death camps would be five times the size of ours.
The Republican ability to imagine the Democrats as worse no matter how bad the Republicans get truly knows no bounds.
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u/Vyzantinist 6h ago edited 3h ago
The Republican ability to imagine the Democrats as worse no matter how bad the Republicans get truly knows no bounds.
Because it gives them permission to continue being their awful, shitty, selves. That is the core of their projection and victim complex - in a shitty world where everyone is as shitty as the shitty conservative, criticizing conservatives for their shittiness is singling them out. It's unfair and mean.
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u/Mateorabi 8h ago
Or “it doesn’t matter how false and despicable our claims are, it’s justified if it tricks people into voting for us” ends-justifying-the-means for him. Like when called out that the dog/cat eating claims were BS.
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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania 7h ago
"It doesn't matter if we lie, it is winning that counts. So lying is fair game".
This is the guy that said the lies about immigrants eating pets was fine because it got people talking about immigrants in a bad light which they should be.
Vance is the point man for that philosophy.
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u/UndoxxableOhioan 6h ago
Acton was removed from her mother’s care at the age of 12, something unmentioned in the Ramaswamy ad
And this was in around 1978. To get removed from your mother's care in 1978, you know it was BAD.
And now they are pretending that someone that has not spoken to her in 48 years somehow knows her best.
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u/Cereborn Canada 5h ago
“Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern,” Vance said."
Utterly shocked that JD "I was told there wouldn't be fact-checking" Vance isn't concerned about Republicans weaponizing a sexual abuser for an attack ad.
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u/TrynnaFindaBalance Illinois 6h ago
“I have to admit that I’m a little bit disgusted when I see Republicans across the country who are whining more about that advertisement than they are about what the congressional Democrats and other Democrats want to do to the United States of America,” Vance said at a fraud task force press conference Wednesday."
Translation: free expression and honest political debate are worse than the physical abuse and rape of children by their own parents
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u/PsychedelicPill 6h ago
Every liberal rube who helped promote JD Vance’s awful book should feel deep shame for giving this monster a second’s worth of attention and legitimacy.
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u/offengineer 7h ago
If anything, this video should help the GOP. Ohio loves child abuse cover ups. Gym Jordan's been representing them almost 20 years.
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u/Smartyquarks 8h ago
I’m disgusted by Vance.
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u/TaterForming 8h ago
So are most futons and couches.
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u/No_Trade3571 Pennsylvania 8h ago
They were asking for it.
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u/MoreOrLess_iGuess America 6h ago
Don’t forget the divans, ottomans, settees, loungers, and especially the love seats
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u/YorubaOyinbo Canada 6h ago
These pedos and pedo protectors just can’t themselves.
They see child rape, and they compulsively have to defend it.
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u/Azoththemerciless 8h ago edited 5h ago
The Vice President of the most powerful country in the world, ladies and gentleman. What a completely soulless pos. He'd sell out his own mother if it would get him one inch closer to power.
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u/DonaldMerwinElbert 8h ago
Why would you expect the running mate to a literal child rapist to be anything other than perfectly fine with this?
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u/detail_giraffe 8h ago
Pence was running mate to the same child rapist and turned out to have at least an ounce of integrity. Pence isn't great, but he's better than this guy.
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u/Azoththemerciless 8h ago
I didn't expect it. I guess I'm just shocked that these vile creatures can get elected. Vance is the fucking front-runner for president in 2028. It just blows my mind.
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u/DonaldMerwinElbert 8h ago
And on "exposing" a child sex trafficking ring and the Epstein files, too.
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u/Solonohioperson 7h ago
I think he has sold out his mother before; because she was a single mom drug addict that lost custody. I think he's chastised her before. The more he talks though, I understand why she sold him for drugs.
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u/Toomanyeastereggs 6h ago
Umm, he did sell out his mother.
The book that started him on the road was one big dump on his own mother.
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u/Allaplgy 8h ago
Did he not already?
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u/TraverseTown New York 8h ago
To be fair his mother tried to sell him for percs so
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u/FuriousBuffalo 8h ago
This asshole asked Americans to make sure that anyone who criticized a friggin podcaster be fired. Pretty on brand for this couch-fucker.
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u/Most_Boat492 7h ago
He already has sold his own family out. Ironically thats what made a name for him in republican politics. Having no spine is a requirement.
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u/schfourteen-teen 6h ago
“Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern,” Vance said. “What is my concern is who is going to govern the next generation of American government, who is going to win the Senate race in the state of Ohio, who is going to win the governor’s race in the state of Ohio?”
So how about running ads about what Republicans will actually do? Oh wait, that's exactly why they instead run ads like this.
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u/Accurate-Frame5104 5h ago
What to watch a Republican tap dance? Ask them to name one single GOP policy from the last decade designed to improve the lives of the average American.
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u/Korps_de_Krieg Louisiana 5h ago
They won’t tap dance, they’ll straight make shit up and then be proud of it. I’ve seen it happen to many times, the deep MAGAts are living in an actual alternate reality
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u/sparkax 4h ago
Or claim some of the laws signed by Biden that none of them voted for, were in fact their personal legislation to their constituents:
Edit to add: This article does a better job of talking about those who refused to support, then claimed it during the lead up to the 2024 election year:
https://www.eenews.net/articles/republicans-cheer-spending-from-bill-they-opposed-again/
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u/spencer4991 5h ago
Man, I remember when the Republican Party declared, quite loudly, that character matters in leaders. Now, it doesn’t matter if Vivek is an utter scumbag, he’s our scumbag.
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u/theme69 5h ago
As a Texan the only thing I know about paxton or abbots platform is that they really fuckin hate trans people. Haven’t seen one ad that describes what they’re gonna do for Texas just stuff saying how boys will play sports with your daughter and you’ll get thrown in jail for not letting them get transition surgery at 8 years old
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u/waffle299 I voted 7h ago
“Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern,” Vance said. “What is my concern is who is going to govern the next generation of American government, who is going to win the Senate race in the state of Ohio, who is going to win the governor’s race in the state of Ohio?”
This is most definitely your concern. This is a direct indication that the Republican candidate is either an incompetent asshole, or a power hungry monster. Neither is fit to serve in government.
Your responsibility is to serve the country, not your party. Your responsibility is to address the ad, and understand your side failed to nominate a decent person.
Your statement reveals you are more concerned with power than anything else. But we knew that already.
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u/BuffsBourbon 7h ago
What, exactly, are the democrats going to do to America? What happened to America under Obama after Bush, and Biden after Trump that they’re so concerned about?
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u/DangerousLoner 7h ago
The Consumer Protection Bureau allowed regular people a way to hold corporations accountable and the ACA allowed people with preexisting conditions to keep health insurance. These two things hurt profits of companies and sided with people over profit. The GOP would never allow such things.
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u/NaptownSnowman 7h ago
Ignore how shitty this is. You know, the entire reason for your disgust and ire. And focus on just using what ever means necessary to defeat our opponent. Because that is what is most important. They won’t even see democrats as people anymore. This country is truly lost if our leaders seek out winning at any moral or ethical cost.
It seems this is the Republican way.
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u/RationalTranscendent 8h ago
"Vance, a former Ohio senator, said Wednesday that he is not concerned about the ad and is only focused on Republicans winning Ohio."
“Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern,” Vance said."
Nice of him to remind us how much he’s willing to compromise his integrity for political expediency. That quote really ought to run constantly for the next two years.
“Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern,” Vance said."
“Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern,” Vance said."
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u/sarcasmsosubtle Ohio 8h ago
"I don't care about retraumatizing a victim of childhood rape as long as our party scores some cheap political points off of it."
JD Vance (paraphrased)
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u/MediumSizedTurtle 7h ago
I'm OK with giving a megaphone to an abusive rape apologist if it means we win elections! You disgust me if you believe any differently!
That is one hell of a message 2 weeks before an election, specially from a guy clearly running for president in a couple months.
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u/AdSouthern3403 7h ago
Man as a non American, republicans are absolutely vile. I understand the issues people have with democrats, but you’ll never convince me they’re the same side of the coin ( for the most part).how anyone with even a pin drop of self respect and integrity can vote for these pieces of shit, in its current form, is beyond me.
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u/guttanzer 7h ago edited 6h ago
American here. Same.
But I have relatives that actually vote for these people. I know they aren’t stupid, so something else is at work. My sense is that they are afraid. They plug themselves in to these horribly wrong horror shows of “news” channels and soak it all up.
BLM riots? Out here in the real world I dug for facts and found that nearly all events were peaceful, and the 3% that were not were responses to outside agitators.
My relatives believe entire cities were burned to the ground and are uninhabitable. I ask them, “which cities?” They don’t know which ones exactly, but they are sure it happened. There were stories about the destruction every 15 minutes for months. They never thought to check via other sources.
Fox even got caught airing footage of Basque Separatist riots in Spain and passing it off as footage from Detroit. You’d think the burning Citroens and Fiats with Spanish tags would be a problem for them, but no. Their audience was conditioned to expect carnage and they delivered.
“If you tell a lie long enough, it becomes the truth.” - Joseph Goebbels
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u/WitchesSphincter 5h ago
Also don't forgot xenophobia plays a big part. They're so well trained in dog whistles they likely don't even believe they are. I mean just yesterday I saw a thing about guns deaths being the leading cause of death for kids in the US and the number of posts arguing thats not so bad because it includes gang violence surprised me. By the way, gang is black if you listen to the whistle.
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u/trumpuniversity_ 6h ago
I know several of those voters as well. If it’s not stupidity, it’s ignorance. Stupidity, in many ways, is excusable. Willful ignorance, on the other hand, is disgraceful.
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u/FriedaKilligan Oregon 6h ago
100% it's fear. Fear that someone will have the power to treat them the way they've treated others, fear that their way of life is ending, fear they will be irrelevant.
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u/Bubbly-Treacle-4334 6h ago edited 5h ago
I mostly don't even understand the issues with dems as an American.
The amount of positive things Dems have tried that have been blocked by republicans over that past 15 years would have been absurdly positively transformative for Americans.
If Dems had like 60 percent majority over the past decade wed have universal healthcare, free school lunch for kids, consumer protections, price gouging rules, housing relief, higher taxes on corporations and the rich, better sick leave, better paternity maternity leave, better infrastructure, roe v wade, gun control, more fair voting rules with auto registration and no gerrymadnering, better renewable energy advancements, less discrimination, more unions with better legal protections and rights, higher minimum wage, more equal pay, net neutrality, ai regulations, likely overturning of citizens united, restrictions on undisclosed political donations, way less online misinformation, un ungutted consumer financial protection bureau, USAID and millions of unnecessary deaths related to its gutting wouldn't happen, actual international statesmanship and respect on the global stage, etc
It's a fucking endless list but Nancy Pelosi traded stocks and dems accept corporate donations so both sides are the same
Itd absolutely fucking insane how goddamn comically evil republicans are
We should be debating democratic policies vs democratic socialist policies not "is it ok to send a Guatemalan who overstayed their visa to die in Libya and orphan their 2 year old who was arrested by a redneck who posts racists social media shit and shot an unarmed protestor in the neck before going home to commit domestic abuse"
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u/Made_Human_Music 6h ago
I’m an American and many of us feel the same way. Democrats are far from perfect and both sides have their corporate masters but Democrats at least make some efforts to improve things
Most of their failures come from one or two traitors who side with Republicans and Republicans spreading so many lies about them that they can’t refute them all fast enough
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u/FLtoVT_For-A-Reason 8h ago
JD Vance is a piece of shit.
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u/starkey2 5h ago
His face shows the banality of evil.
Remember when the Nazi groupchat from the young republicans came out? This piece of shit was defending them and saying they are just young. Not a word about racism. All about forgiving peoples "stupid jokes."
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u/Tokie-Dokie 8h ago
In a party of miserable little opportunistic shit-fuckers, JD is one of the worst. Not only un-American but downright inhuman. Today’s GOP is comprised of child-raping/enabling monsters.
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u/Common_Ebb_162 6h ago
So, just to be clear…he’s disgusted by those who are disgusted by an attempt to victim shame someone in the worst way…but he’s all good with the victim shaming itself…God forbid it’s ever his wife or kids…but we would never hear the end of it if it was…this man has no courage and no convictions…only blind ambition…
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u/Pour_Me_Another_ 4h ago
Do you really think this dude would care if something happened to his wife or kids?
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u/AchillesNtortus 8h ago
For brief moment I misread the headline and thought Vance was condemning the sleazy tactics of the Ramaswamy campaign.
I was wrong!
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u/bwsmith201 California 7h ago
Me too. I was all ready to be pleasantly surprised but then I realized that was just wishful thinking and it's just Vance being Vance.
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u/Sidedmantis 8h ago
“Whether the ad was appropriate or not is not really my concern,” Vance said. “What is my concern is who is going to govern the next generation of American government, who is going to win the Senate race in the state of Ohio, who is going to win the governor’s race in the state of Ohio?”
These are the kind of people you want governing? I think you just told on yourself, man.
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u/dayglowe Canada 7h ago
Oh, maybe this is an opportunity to create an AI generated ad using Fred Trump saying how he never really loved Donnie and how he's impressed with how well of a liar he's become? I mean, this sounds like totally fair politics according to Vance.
Maybe one gets made of Vance with a chesterfield describing how its been defiled and how Vance can't be trusted?
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u/NYCinPGH 7h ago
The difference is that your proposed AI is almost certainly true. Donnie wasn’t the favored son and presumed heir, his older brother Fred Jr was, until Fred Jr decided he didn’t want to go into the family business and suddenly Donnie was the only option left.
And Fred did always did like a liar and a grifter - who was on his side - just look at Roy Cohn.
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u/whichwitch9 8h ago
Shocking, top Republicans platforming an abuser.
Sorry, gonna call out what it is: giving an abuser a platform to keep attacking her target. You don't have to agree with Acton at all to know that's fucking wrong.
Vance proving he's just as vile as Ramaswamy
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u/RamonaQ-JunieB 8h ago
Vance is a lowlife, despicable person. So is Ramaswamy. His quotes in this article are gross. Absolutely disgusting.
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u/Jambalayatime 7h ago
Anybody old enough to remember the 2004 presidential campaign should recall the moment in the VP debate where John Edwards attempted to leverage and weaponize Dick Cheney's lesbian daughter against him. It was slimy, cringy, pre-meditated, and actually managed to portray Cheney, who displayed restraint, as briefly sympathetic.
This is equivalent in terms of outright sliminess. It's so evidently wrong that to not distance yourself from it when asked is to whiff at one of the most softball questions politics can offer. It speaks to a deficit of character and gives Vance's future GOP primary opponents ammunition.
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u/loach12 6h ago
Actually this is why worse that what John Edwards did . He pointed out the hypocrisy of him putting politics over his daughter wellbeing ( eventually he did change once out of office ) This here is defending the idea of protecting a pedophile protecting so-called mother who was a POS .
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u/Jambalayatime 7h ago
I'll mention that the reason this comparison came to mind is that many left/Democrat voters saw this happen and kinda recoiled. Edwards was a rising star at the time and this, arguably more than being on a losing ticket, really caused his career to lose momentum. Several years later Edwards would do even skeezier things to prove what we all took away from the debate.
Granted, that was a big stage with a lot of eyes, and Vance will likely not take heat long-term for this, but it's super low-rent.
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u/casualreader22 Pennsylvania 6h ago
Not that they shouldn't have recoiled, but Democrats having standards while Republicans don't is nothing new, even in 2004. As sad as it is if anything it actually gives Republicans an advantage with the way the system is currently configured. Too many Democrats seek perfection while Republicans will overlook just about anything, and look where it's helped to lead us.
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u/Main-Bandicoot6477 6h ago
Well, at least with that there is some point to be made about how could someone be one of the leaders of a party that outright works against things like marriage equality while also having a gay child.
Now, I don't think it's a great idea to bring up or talk about a candidate's family members, and I understand the more cynical take that it was done to try get Republicans to maybe not like Cheney just because he had a gay child, but I still don't think these are equivalent. Are they both dirty politics? Sure, but one I think is still much worse.
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u/Environmental-Arm365 8h ago
The most loathsome and cringey VP in history is attacking his own republicult for trying to show they have any moral compass whatsoever. Not a good look right before mid-terms.
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u/Objective-Giraffe-27 8h ago
Trump and Vance really are the dream team for worst political leaders of all time.
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u/DJPho3nix 5h ago
“Politics is a tough business,” Vance added. “My message to my fellow elected Republicans is if you actually believe in the things you say you believe in, stop whining about an advertisement and go win the race in 13 days.”
So, if you're a real Republican, stop whining about other Republicans crafting abhorrent false narratives against preteen SA victims because winning is more important?
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u/imjustnotready 8h ago
You have to give it Vance. It can't be easy to keep hitting new lows. Nothing but net Vance.
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u/ogreofnorth 7h ago
Here is the crazy reality. From talking with people in this field, in these situations, whether made up or not with children who may or may not have been abused, they take it seriously. It is well investigated and usually if it does not churn up 100% truth, they try and reunite with mother most of the time. They took not only her but her brother. Both children. The mother has been consistent. She thinks she lied the whole time. Burden of proof was different enough they had cause to remove children.
And a Republican’s best attempt to shut down their opponent was to drum this to the surface. It shows how far the Party has fallen. My wife a long voting Republican since she was able to, said, she will not vote for another one.
For years they have called Democrats “sheep.” All while following blindly their cult. And now the second most powerful by ranking, is saying this. It’s disgusting. First Epstein, now this. The party of pedophiles.
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u/MABQuestAcc 7h ago
This was the straw the broke the camel's back for your wife?
It's not small potatoes but if this is what made her finally say they won't vote Republican any more...
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u/ogreofnorth 7h ago
It is everything up to this point. She stopped voting Republican when Trump got the nomination in 2016. And then seeing all of them fall in line with him solidified it
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u/Snakesandrats 8h ago
Acton's step-father was indicted for raping her and her mother abandoned her and fled the state with him, but the REAL victim here according to Vance is... Vivek Ramaswamy.
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u/Fight_those_bastards 8h ago
You can be a good person, or you can be a pedo protector.
Republicans have made their decision.
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u/TheFeshy 7h ago
I have to admit that I’m a little bit disgusted when I see Republicans across the country who are whining more about that advertisement than they are about what the congressional Democrats and other Democrats want to do to the United States of America
Always without examples. Here's a list from Acton's website. Which of these does Vance think is worse than supporting child rape?
- Reducing costs for Ohio families (with several examples)
- Cleaning up corruption
- Improving education
- Growing Ohio jobs
- Standing up for workers
- Safer communities
- Reproductive freedom
- Aging in place
- LGBTQ rights
- Rural communities, black communities, veterans
- Forcing data centers to pay for their utiilties
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u/keepthebluestub 4h ago
JD is being paraded out for cameras so much lately... because Trump is failing hard. But here's the catch: We hate JD too. JD is failing even harder.
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u/RoninMagister 8h ago
Said the guy whose mother allegedly tried to sell him for drugs, right?
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u/TheMoorNextDoor 7h ago
Vance keep on killing your political chances as well.
Both you and Vivek are done, take them out to the trash.
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u/ScholarFit4426 6h ago
Vance and Ramaswamy are very dangerous people. They should have no place in American politics after Trump’s gone.
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u/CeeDubMo 8h ago
This is the man who correctly identified Trump as America’s Hitler and then joined his campaign.
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u/Actual__Wizard 6h ago edited 5h ago
“I have to admit that I’m a little bit disgusted when I see Republicans across the country who are whining more about that advertisement than they are about what the congressional Democrats and other Democrats want to do to the United States of America,”
Hey everybody, JD Vance's brain doesn't work correctly.
Can we get somebody who has a fully functional brain to be VP? Thank you American voters.
I'm getting really tired of people who do not have fully functional brains gaining power over others.
Edit: I'm more than a little bit disgusted and appalled by the inhuman and monstrous comments by the Vice President. Obviously we can't have somebody who is incapable of caring about human beings, being responsible for making decisions for them. The behavior is absurd and evil. This guy seems like he's trying to prove how dead he is...
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u/thecloudcities 7h ago
This is the same dude who said he was happy to make up stories about Haitians eating cats and dogs in Ohio if it helped him win.
Liars like liars.
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u/lawyerjsd California 8h ago
He's disgusted by the people who don't like an ad where a pedophile's protector decries a child's decision to go to the police? On brand, sure, but still.
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u/HallucinogenicFish Georgia 8h ago
VP taking every possible opportunity to show us what a repugnant human he is.
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u/BSA_DEMAX51 8h ago
"I have to admit that I’m a little bit disgusted when I see Republicans"
Me too, JD, me too.
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u/whydoyouonlylie 8h ago
He really followed up saying that the appropriateness of the ad wasn't his concern by claiming all he's concerned about is the right person is chosen to the Senate, as though someone playing such a grossly inappropriate ad isn't a direct indicator of the standard of the person who rand and approved of the ad. Republicans are so utterly disgusting.
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u/MartinTheOrderly 7h ago
I've known JD Vance existed for about four years and I've hated him every day of those four years a bit more than the last.
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u/GrittyTheGreat 7h ago
I really truly cannot wait for Vance to go down. It's going to be one of the highlights of America's history.
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u/HorrorOk1304 6h ago
Please let JD play press secretary each day till election day.
Its basically free ads for the Democrats.
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u/Irwin-M_Fletcher 5h ago
Just absolutely bizarre! Vance is disgusted by republicans criticizing a disgusting ad. I suppose what he is saying is that real republicans support the admiration and its friends no matter how vile they are.
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u/Specialist-Spare-785 4h ago
Just Dance Vance is a puppet for billionaire Peter Thiel. America finds JD to be like fingernails screeching on a chalkboard. He is disliked on both sides. Vote Blue!
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u/Ferengi_Quark 8h ago
This tracks. If you’re okay working for a pedo and rapist president, then the Ramaswarmy ad isn’t morally reprehensible to you
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u/redbulldrinkertoo 8h ago
So very Christian of him. Fucking scumbag, all they do is defend child rapists.
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u/OpenImagination9 8h ago
“How dare you sir! How dare you have any decency! Don’t you know this is the Republican Party?
Go molest a kid or kill a brown person before we kick you out!”
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u/YouWereBrained Tennessee 8h ago
Yup. He says this bullshit, after trying to appear “classy” and moderate on the CBS townhall. Dude is such a liar.
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u/Only4DNDandCigars 8h ago
He is disgusted by people being disgusted with exploiting sexual abuse in an attack ad?
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u/cwilly57 8h ago
Jd vance wears pleated chode jeans and nobody cares about his eye liner, his lies, or his complete lack of morals.
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u/misselphaba 8h ago
Republicans LOVE rape. It's their favorite. This should surprise no one and Vance would like couches more if they struggled a little and cried after.
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u/Jzamillah 8h ago
I guess Republicans are against child abuse, unless the political affiliation of those involved doesn't line up to theirs
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