r/politics • u/Newsweek_CarloV ✔ Verified - Newsweek • Sep 21 '26
No Paywall Donald Trump’s Approval Rating Falls Below 30% For First Time Ever
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-124677274.1k
u/Lumpy-Crew-6702 Sep 21 '26
Couldn’t imagine the bottom of the barrel left supporting this
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u/Life_Bet8956 Virginia Sep 21 '26
It's people that were heavily into the vitriolic discourse of the late 2010s and early 2020s that are in way too deep to admit they were wrong.
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u/jaylotw Sep 21 '26
That's just it.
The people left are the ones who are too afraid to admit that they've been fooled.
They've had plenty of safe off-ramps, but every time they have chosen to not take them. At this point, they know jumping ship will expose them, so they double down.
They'll never change.
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u/LT_Dangle Sep 21 '26
Has anyone considered that maybe they’re not afraid that they were wrong, but not smart enough to have still not figured out that they were conned?
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u/Spektr44 Sep 21 '26
So many people are still captured by Fox News and their ilk. Those outlets still provide the talking points that allow the viewer never to challenge their views. Inflation happening right now? Still the lingering effect of Biden, goddamn him! Gas prices high? Iran just playing games before the election, no worries. Yes these are things I've heard unironically spoken just last week.
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u/Geno0wl Sep 21 '26
Yes these are things I've heard unironically spoken just last week.
Heard somebody recently say "just imagine how much worse it would be if Kamala was elected!"
They will never learn.
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u/Bentendo_64 Tennessee Sep 21 '26
About a week ago, one of my neighbors said to me "Kamala would be handling the Iran war so much worse than Trump is".
The thought that the war wouldn't have even happened if Kamala was president didn't even cross his mind. The lack of any form of critical thought truly is astounding.
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u/masterlich Sep 21 '26
I've seen a lot of shit over the last ten years that has blown my mind, but this... this really takes the cake.
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u/Chaotic-Catastrophe Sep 21 '26
It really shows how they perceive the world as a whole. Things don't happen for reasons. Cause and effect are fake. Things only happen because of God's WillTM or fate or some other magical bullshit. We're not at war with Iran because Trump intentionally started it with them for no reason. We're at war with Iran because that was always going to happen and nobody knows why. So if Harris were President right now, obviously the Iran war would still be happening. There is nothing she could have said or done in advance to prevent it.
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u/Beetlejuice_hero Sep 21 '26
Yes. Some of these posters should torture themselves and watch Fox & Friends, then Fox from The Five through Hannity.
It is difficult to overstate just how relentless (and, unfortunately effective) their coordinated propaganda is. Their impossibly stupid rube viewers - who already relish feeling persecuted - just bask in anger and outrage and persecution. All the fault of...
AOC, Bernie, Obama, AOC, Mamdani, Pelosi, Biden, "Socialism", AOC, "Trans for everybody", Al Gore/"The Green Scam", George Soros (they vote to cut his taxes btw), AOC, and of course AOC.
It is absolutely relentless and Trump most definitely has a hard floor in the mid-high 20s that it will never break through because of Fox et al propaganda.
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u/LT_Dangle Sep 21 '26
That’s exactly what I was thinking. They’ve replaced critical thinking with just allowing Fox News/OAN/Newsmax to tell them what to think.
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u/jaylotw Sep 21 '26
I would give some of them that.
By now, though...unless you have actual, verified mental handicaps, there's just no way to say "I didn't realize."
There's no real excuse any more.
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u/DeusCanis420 Sep 21 '26
I truly believe that if we tested all of the current self-proclaimed MAGA we would find that the vast majority do indeed have mental handicaps.
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u/LT_Dangle Sep 21 '26
Some might. But I think a lot of them likely have personality disorders like antisocial personality disorder.
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u/vixen-mixin Sep 21 '26
My aunt s dating a MAGA guy and she's the kind of woman who believes what her partner believes. I would believe she has some mental handicaps, but i'm not sure about him. Hes a fucking asshole and i hate him but he's not mentally handicapped from what i've seen
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u/Notrius01 Sep 21 '26
Assholes are attracted to MAGA because that's exactly what they would do if they were in a position of power.
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u/GodOfDarkLaughter Sep 21 '26
Poor man's idea of a rich man, dumb man's idea of a smart man, coward's idea of a brave man.
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u/chron67 Tennessee Sep 21 '26
also theres definitely a chunk who just really like the racism and cruelty
As someone living in the South I can assure you there is a VERY strong streak of this. They will definitely deny it of course but the actions they support and the things they demand speak louder than their denials.
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u/milfordcubicle Sep 21 '26
I just consider them society's burden akin to a country's violent crime prisoner population.
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u/tripping_on_phonics California Sep 21 '26
There is complete overlap between these people and the “in too deep” folks.
They thought that Trump was their permanent license to stop hiding their white supremacy. Now that they’re out of the racism/ethnonationalism closet, they can’t go back in.
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u/YouLegitimate4400 Sep 21 '26
They won't change or admit their wrong but I've already seen them pivot to "both sides are the same". Which is as far they will ever go. Deluding themselves into thinking things would have been just as bad with a Democrat in the office so they don't really need to take any responsibility because it was inevitable - in their minds at least.
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u/Silent-Storms Sep 21 '26
There is a vast portion of the population that has no clue what is going on in the world besides the seasonal sportsball.
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u/MadRaymer Sep 21 '26
And they apply that same sports mindset to politics. Republicans are the team they root for, no matter how bad the team is doing. Even if the team is fucking them over, that's still their team.
Expecting them to switch to the other team would be like trying to get a Packers fan to root for the Vikings. Never going to happen.
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u/Don_Gato1 Sep 21 '26
Nebraska Senate candidate Dan Osborn may have put it best:
“Billy Bob in f**king Red Cloud, Nebraska, who lives next door to the f**king Trump store as you pull into town and is waving the Trump flag … all he knows is he’s like on the winning team,” a speaker said in audio obtained by the Omaha World-Herald. “He’s been so effective at taking Billy Bob and his wife Mary Jane or Mary Jo and telling them, look we’re winning. You’re on the winning team. And that’s all they care about, because their lives probably suck so f**king much.”
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u/Beautiful-Musk-Ox Sep 21 '26
and because they do it they assume everyone else works the same.
i was raised in a family that lie cheated and stole, their mentality was to get one over on everyone else before they did it to you, they truly thought every one cheated the system and other people as much as they did, and when they found someone who didn't they 1) assumed they were a minority and 2) assumed that person was dumb and didn't know how to "play the game" so to speak, so they deserved to be take advantage of
i notice a lot of right wingers have these mindsets, they think they are part of the group who knows how the world REALLY works and everyone else is an idiot and deserves to be taken advantage of
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u/bert_brings_the_hurt Sep 21 '26
This is my belief after knowing my in-laws. I’m convinced it has nothing to do with admitting they were conned. They truly are just that disconnected and continue to live their lives and vote R when the time comes. They’re plugged in just enough to occasionally hear the most recent maga talking point and decide they still more or less agree with those sentiments.
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u/Thetman38 Sep 21 '26
Go on Facebook or /r/ conservative to see who is still there
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u/Quixotic_Tendency Sep 21 '26
Assuming half of them (a conservative estimate, heh) aren't bots?
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u/hightrix Sep 21 '26
If they aren't bots, holy hell I do not envy any humans they interact with in real life. They are the most hateful, ignorant comments that exist.
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u/Necessary-Smoke-424 Sep 21 '26
Dealt with one at work before he got fired recently. Easily the most monstrous, unhinged person I had the misfortune of being in the presence of.
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u/WessideLou Sep 21 '26
Even if they’re bots, they’re allowing more and more comments to disparage Trump while saying that republicans are our only hope and that dems would have been worse. They might be setting up a tone shift.
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u/itsstevedave Pennsylvania Sep 21 '26
The r-conservative folks are frustrating because they'll call out the dumb things he's going and still say Kamala would've been worse.
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u/Gimetulkathmir Sep 21 '26
It's really weird when I see a self-aware post there. I start feeling this small glimmer of hope that just maybe they're starting to realise and come around...
...and then someone makes an ignorant post about how it's Biden's fault and I am brought back to reality.
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u/JustaLyinTometa Sep 21 '26
Even the conservative subreddit has been criticizing him more lately.
Hell my insanely racist maga grandma complained to me about him last week and said she’s done with him. Gas prices and AI really seem to be the breaking point with his base.
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u/Indubitalist Sep 21 '26
If you look at polling on who’s responsible for current inflation, you’ll find your answer. The echo chamber feeding these folks lies has 30% convinced none of our current economic problems are Trump’s fault, so it doesn’t matter that America is objectively having a bad time, they’ll say they approve of how Trump is handling things, he was just dealt a bad hand by the last guy. That none of this tariff regime existed under Biden does not factor in to their calculus.
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u/steemSTEM Sep 21 '26
Trump was dealt a bad hand by the guy in charge at the start of covid. I'm sure he really has a bone to pick with that guy who really ruined the economy. That prior president is a real dipshit. Oh wait, that's also him. Damn.
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u/Vegetable-Seaweed591 Sep 21 '26
It's amazing how many Republicans somehow only remember the first 3 years of Trump's first term and then pretend that the first year (and their associated lockdowns) happened under Biden.
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u/yeahright17 Sep 21 '26
If all you ever listen to on news or politics is Fox News, you think the Iran War was completely necessary and temporary, pricing is just the fault of the necessary Iran War and Biden policies, and in fact, Trump has done a lot to lower prices like pricing transparency in hospital/prescriptions. If you give them more time, they'll definitely fix it.
Personally, I love all the Abbott ads in Texas complaining about how bad everything is when his party has been in control decades and he has been governor for 12 years.
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u/Tipsy-Canoe Sep 21 '26
My family sadly have just doubled down. And we are cattle ranchers. And the tariffs cost me two jobs now (I was a cost analyst in manufacturing for a company that used fabric from Vietnam).
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u/Zeusifer Sep 21 '26
They're the ones who think the most pressing issue facing the country are the trans women who want to play sports.
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u/80722 Sep 21 '26
Even 3% is too high for this dipshit.
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u/ActionJacksonATL24 Sep 21 '26
0% is too high.
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u/namastayhom33 Connecticut Sep 21 '26
9th circle of hell is too high
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u/Munkeyman18290 Sep 21 '26
The rent's too damn high.
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u/TrainingAttorney2344 Sep 21 '26
Gas is too damn high
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u/ciaomain New York Sep 21 '26
I'm not high enough.
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u/PerennialPhilosopher California Sep 21 '26
Oh hi mark
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u/jamesvtm Alabama Sep 21 '26
So some still approve!? Approve of what!?
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u/grunkfest Sep 21 '26
Didn't you see? ICE shot a person with dark skin today. They approve of that.
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u/Tiny_Structure_7 North Carolina Sep 21 '26
What's funny is that Trump just promised $5,000 to everyone if they win... and his approval rating sank even further. :-)
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u/AcrobaticWrangler330 Sep 21 '26
All he did was remind people that he lied about the last two checks he claimed he was going to send out.
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u/ebkalderon Sep 21 '26
True, but I think that's a pretty minor factor among his core base (if it even is one at all). IMO, the real driving force behind Trump's falling approval numbers has gotta be the rising cost of gas at the pumps. Remember, these people don't care about any political issue unless it affects them directly.
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u/MatsuzoSF Sep 21 '26
Because everyone with a functioning brain isn't buying the bullshit.
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u/IntelligentStyle402 Sep 21 '26
The elite wealthy always will stay with republicans. Why? Because republicans have always supported the filthy rich. Always!
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u/IamDDT Colorado Sep 21 '26
That, and remember Mark Twain: "It is easier to trick a man, than to convince him he has been tricked." The Republican voters don't want to believe that they were duped, that they made a stupid decision, because that attacks their egos. So they double and triple down on the stupidity.
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u/barryvm Europe Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26
Themselves.
They can do no wrong in their own eyes; they chose him; therefore he can do no wrong in their eyes. These are people who, at any given moment, believe whatever they need to believe to justify doing what they wanted to do anyway. It's bad faith, in other words.
The worse the leader they identify with, the more destructive the actions they support, the fiercer they will hold fast tot that moral absolute, even if they have to twist reality and morality around it. The alternative is to confront the consequences of their own choices and actions. There are off ramps ("discovering" that Trump betrayed them, for example), but those only reduce the hard core by attrition, and they do not imply an actual change of heart, because they merely represent a shift into a new bad faith narrative of victim-hood to replace the old one.
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u/2ManyCatsNever2Many Sep 21 '26
no kidding - literally what has to happen for those people to move into the "not approve" category? shows how dumb human beings are.
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u/Michael_DeSanta Sep 21 '26
The economic impact is finally catching up and biting some boomers in the ass, in my experience. I visited my parents over the weekend and heard my dad respond to some Trump news story with “what a frickin’ idiot”. I was actually kind of shocked, my dad is an idiot and voted for him every chance he could.
He spent the weekend complaining about the war, gas prices, grocery prices, etc. I mean, far too little too late, but it was nice seeing my dad act sane and seem to care about my future for a minute.
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u/jhoosi Sep 21 '26
Sadly, it always takes something affecting them personally before they have a change of heart, and even then I feel like the change is only temporary. I suspect as soon as the economic situation improves, they'd be back to their voting ways.
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u/Michael_DeSanta Sep 21 '26
Unfortunately, I suspect the same. I won’t let him forget this period, though. Before Trump, they were able to retire in a cushy, large beach house, buy new cars and boats, travel the world…all while being extremely financially stable until long past the average lifespan.
Now they’re having to adhere to a tight budget again, having to help my brother out of crippling debt/health issues, and paying out the ass for my grandparents’ care. Life isn’t quite as fun as his conservative buddies promised.
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u/ReactsWithWords Sep 21 '26
With the "My team no matter what" attitude Republicans have, anything under 40% is surprising.
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u/SpoonyDinosaur Sep 21 '26
Yup. No matter how bad Trump is, the best you'll hear is "I'm not happy with Trump, but "he is still better then a Democrat/Harris."
They just think they voted for the wrong Republican, but will never vote for a evil Democrat.
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u/Significant-Owl-2980 Sep 21 '26
My evangelical in-laws are MAGA. They love the war. Think people that are just “whining and complaining “ about high prices are lazy.
They are sexist, racist, xenophobic boomers with little to no knowledge of anything. And they love Trump.
They are the people that go out of their way to be offended when something says Happy Holidays instead of Merry Christmas. 🙄
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u/Papa_Bearto2 Sep 21 '26
I have a niece in her mid 20s who voted for him and supports the war. She announced this at a family dinner last week.
But somehow I’m the asshole because I sent her and her boyfriend the address of the closest Armed Forces recruitment center.
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u/j_andrew_h Florida Sep 21 '26
She's for the war because she supports Trump, not the other way around. If Biden/Harris/Obama/Clinton or any other Democrat did this they would all be against it. They have no guiding principles other than Red = Good and Blue = Bad. And if Blue is upset, then Red must be right, rather than looking at any issue objectively and realizing we should all be upset!!!!
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u/MandeR1 Sep 21 '26
Of course, she won't be promoted and will be treated as a lower class in Hegseth's military, but I'm sure she won't mind 😊
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u/Significant-Owl-2980 Sep 21 '26
Also, even for these snowflake Christians, there is more than one holiday during that time that they celebrate as well.
Don’t they celebrate New Years? Lol.
Just another reason to be a victim.
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u/ceojp Sep 21 '26
Some dude on nextdoor was saying he would gladly pay $20/gallon for gas if it meant Iran couldn't have "nukes". And at the same time he won't shut up about it being higher while Biden was in office.
It really is like a religion. That's all they have. Their identity, who they are, is directly tied to it.
They are so heavily invested in the ideology that it would completely shatter their worldview, and their perception of who they even are, to admit or even recognize that their leader could be wrong. They have to believe it.
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u/ThaddeusJP Illinois Sep 21 '26
My conservative neighbor says "gasoline is only like 2% of a person's budget so it's not a big deal"
Except it's pre tax. And it's 3-4% now with the price increase.
So to someone making 100k a year, they take home 75000 and now spend 3500+ a year, that's a lot of God damn money.
But of course she's retired and hardly drives so what does she care
And with diesel pushing $7 everything that goes on a truck costs more
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u/spa22lurk Sep 21 '26
The connection between prejudice and authoritarianism lay at the heart of our analysis of Trump’s supporters, and the survey strongly supported it. How strongly? The correlation between RWA Scale scores and prejudice equalled .856, which is as close to perfection (1.00) as you are likely to ever see in social science. To put it another way, suppose you decided to hold a dance for the 100 most prejudiced white people in your community, along with the 100 most authoritarian ones. (Who knows why you would want to? We do not.) Would you need to print 200 invitations? No, about 120 should do it, since most of the people who are one will also be the other. There is about an 80 percent overlap.
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“most amazing discovery you never heard of,” that you can explain most prejudice in terms of authoritarianism. So social scientists have not been crying wolf for all these years. There truly is a big, very bad wolf at our collective doors, and this metaphoric evil snarls such intolerance, discrimination, and victimization that it not only injures its immediate victims, but also shakes our democratic society to its core. Knowingly or unknowingly, prejudiced people bring into the voting booth something of even greater danger to everyone’s freedom and our country’s very existence: authoritarianism. As we explained in our earlier chapters, the most prejudiced people in America were likely drawn to Trump because he told them their prejudices were justified. But they connected with him and with one another on more than their attitudes toward minorities, for the showman at the rallies was a megalomaniac and demagogue driven to dominate everyone in the world. He did not campaign on a platform of overthrowing democracy, obviously, but he did sanctify prejudice. And the crowd that responded to his evil message was full of authoritarian supporters yearning for a mighty leader to fight their enemies and protect them.
From Authoritarian Nightmare, by John W. Dean & Bob Altemeyer
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u/permalink_save Sep 21 '26
So did they complajn about gas prices under Biden? Cause I just paid $4/gal in TX and it got down to $2.50/gal under Biden shortly after the "I did that" shit.
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u/Significant-Owl-2980 Sep 21 '26
Yes they did complain. They still complain and say prices were higher under Biden.
They still do not understand how tariffs work.
They post Alligator Alcatraz memes and have stickers on their cars that read “Stand for the Flag, Kneel for the cross”
They are against birth control and think the earth is a few thousand years old.
My MIL literally stands on street corners with signs against abortion but votes against WIC and SNAP. She is such a jealous, narcissistic, selfish person. And mean. Very mean.
They have zero common sense. It is easier talking to a goldfish than to them. It is painful.
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u/Van_Hoven Sep 21 '26
uff, thats rough. hope you and your significant other are doing well. i mean, i know how it is when family is being bonkers and not loosing all compassion for them is difficult but atleast imo essential.
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u/CharmingCrust Sep 21 '26
30% is an insanely high number and it should worry everyone how he manages to keep the votes of the single cell organisms.
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u/SoglinBottomBoy Sep 21 '26
This is a great time to remind yourself of The Keyes Constant also known as the Crazification Factor. 30% of our population will always be batshit insane.
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u/IrascibleOcelot Sep 21 '26
Which aligns really closely with the percentage of the population that are authoritarian followers. About 30% of every human population wants someone to tell them what to do. They want a dictator, king, or emperor to sweep in and “fix the problems.” And they will never, ever turn on their chosen “strongman,” no matter how bad things get. So 30% is about the floor of what a wannabe dictator will hit. Hitler still had 28% approval when he was dead and Germany was a smoking ruin.
So while 30% is still too high in any sane world, it’s also a really good sign in the insane one we live in.
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u/Melicor Sep 22 '26
That's why it's important to implement systems that require actual majorities to implement policy and change. Our current Congress is basically at the mercy of that 30% because of structural flaws like the filibuster and gerrymandering. The Senate itself is fundamentally a problem because a senator from Wyoming representing 600,000 people has the same power as one from CA that represents 30 million. It's just fucking broken.
The broken senate has lead to the broken Supreme Court because they're the only barrier to the President's appointments.
Everyone should have a voice. But our current system amplifies and empowers certain groups, such as rural white Christians.
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u/Thermodymix Sep 21 '26
Good point. Around 30% support is basically the noise floor - which makes sense when you consider that probably around 30% of the country also believes in a flat earth and / or that a cadre of reptillians disguised as humans control global affairs.
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u/MC_Fap_Commander America Sep 21 '26
That's an understandable response, but even among the worst presidents and the most failed global leaders in history, they typically manage to keep their polling in the 20's. That said, if polling stays in the 20's, his administration is (functionally) done and we will start getting (way too late) defections from the GOP. Probably after the midterms, if it's a Dem landslide...
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u/midwinter_ Sep 21 '26
Nixon's lowest point was 24%. I tend to think that the best way to process that is that about a quarter of the country are utterly irrational and will go down with their team no matter what.
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u/TheDotanuki Sep 21 '26
GW Bush hit 25%. The current situation is entirely beyond the pale.
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u/layeofthedead Sep 21 '26
Plus a lot of his supporters will refuse to admit they were wrong. They’d rather keep following him into hell than admit they were conned
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u/Idrinkbeereverywhere Sep 21 '26
You say that, but the last two corrupt Korean presidents were impeached with 10% approval ratings
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u/Mikeseddit Sep 21 '26
I’m guessing more people in Korea pay attention to politics than here. About 20% more.
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u/MC_Fap_Commander America Sep 21 '26
The 10's are not far away from the 20's and he's really on track to get there. Removal is a pipe dream in the structure of our system, tho.
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u/LJSidney Sep 21 '26
Percentages in the teens will probably happen if we end up with an actual fuel crisis and/or if the (very related) cost of food keeps going up.
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u/MaverickBG Sep 21 '26
Lol no.
Expect Republicans to propose some insane thing like "we will stop exporting all oil and begin drilling all our public lands" and when Democrats say no- it will just be pitched as "the Democrats don't want your gas prices to go down".
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u/DJ_Aftershock United Kingdom Sep 21 '26
Honestly the right love doing this shit.
Right: "To bring fuel prices down, we are going to kick puppies like footballs."
Left: "Uhm, that's a stupid and cruel idea?"
Right: "THE LEFT LOVE FUEL PRICES GOING UP!"
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u/AnatidaephobiaAnon Sep 21 '26
Yeah, there are people like my stepdad and my uncle who will ignore everything he does because they are absolutely 100% convinced that if a Democrat were president things would be worse. There is a huge amount of people in this country who simply don't pay attention to politics or they support Trump and don't care what he does because "it's part of his genius plan and they are just going to weather it until prosperity happens." or they fall into my first statement of "still better than a democrat because it would be worse and they hate America.".
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u/RedditIsMyTherapist Sep 21 '26
Spot on. Even when they are willing to admit he's doing something stupid or that things are bad it's always, "but could you imagine how much worse it would be if Kamala won!?" They ignore that Trump is the CAUSE of it all!
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u/Talador12 Sep 21 '26
And even then, how is 20% support still happening? We need to figure out how a dumpster fire still has support
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u/bb_kelly77 Sep 21 '26
Propaganda and lack of information/education
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u/Perram Sep 21 '26
This exactly - these people are literally not hearing anything bad about him. They're in an info bubble that blames all the wrongs in their life on his opponents.
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u/eorlingas_riders Sep 21 '26
Roughly 78 million evangelical Christians in the US or about 23% of the total population and while not all are ride or die Trump/Republican the vast majority are.
So you probably won’t see his approval rating dip much below that, as the republicans successfully co-opted this type of Christianity over 40+ years ago in a way that many of them do not segregate Republican Party alignment from their religious alignment, making it in many cases, unbreakable.
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u/chronomagnus Ohio Sep 21 '26
It’s actually kind of notable now. He previously had about a third of this country that was completely ride or die for him. There are finally cracks in that, pity they couldn’t see this 2 years ago.
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u/02K30C1 Sep 21 '26
They drop support for him only when it affects them personally. But they’ll still continue to vote only for republicans.
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u/literallymoist Sep 21 '26
If beef and gas were still cheap they'd still be cheering, these people are beyond reason.
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u/Viceroy1994 Sep 21 '26
There are finally cracks in that
I wouldn't give them that much credit; they're probably dying off in droves from republican policies, or just keeping their hate to themselves out of justified and deserved fear. Unfortunately the best we can hope from these people.
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u/Duncan_PhD Sep 21 '26
Roughly 40% of US citizens believe God created the earth less than 10k years ago. 30% makes sense for Trump support lol
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u/BlueMilk_and_Wookies Sep 21 '26
I was about to reply to you saying there’s no way 40% of Americans are actual Creationists, that’s an absurd amount. Then I looked it up, and you’re right. Holy shit.
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u/Duncan_PhD Sep 21 '26
Yeah it’s actually a fucking insane statistic. It makes perfect sense how someone as fucking stupid as Trump could be elected. At least 40% of people in this country are just a dumb.
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u/BlueMilk_and_Wookies Sep 21 '26
It got even more depressing as I read more. Only 16% of American adults with no college degree believe that humans evolved with no interference from god. And even among adults with college degrees, who believe in human evolution, more believe that our evolution was “guided” by god than not.
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u/Begging_Murphy Sep 21 '26
Retirement communities are Fox News echo chambers
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u/mishap1 I voted Sep 21 '26
Fox News is a bunch of commie pinkos at this point for daring to ever question Trump. All NewsMax and OANN these days.
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u/Ezekiel_DA Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26
This is 100% a hot take, but it's a hot take based on having two nationalities and having lived in 3 different countries with different politics:
At any given time, 10-30% of any given electorate is ready and willing to implement straight up fascism (under whatever name it has locally). If the economy is doing okay, the social elevator works, there is a decent social safety net, it's 10%. When those break down, it slides towards 30%. From there, it only takes convincing some low information idiots to be in range of winning elections.
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u/POEness Sep 21 '26
This is accurate. Personally I believe roughly 30% of human brains simply don't form correctly. That 30% is too consistent throughout history - it has to be essentially our defectiveness rate.
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u/Fabulous-Lychee-4464 Sep 21 '26
Even the worst leaders in history typically have a floor in the 20%-30% range. The fact that it's that low for someone whose entire M.O. is using a cult of personality to fail upwards is actually a good sign for the future of the United States. If you go issue-by-issue, the disapproval is actually shockingly high and blows several record disapproval numbers out of the water.
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u/Top-Difficulty5202 Sep 21 '26
We need to clean up journalism. There needs to be rules of what is considered news. They shouldn't be able to go and spew lies on tv and brainwash.
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u/BetterBiscuits Sep 21 '26
The journalism problem, the stolen wages problem, the bought and paid for politicians problem…same problem.
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u/Top-Difficulty5202 Sep 21 '26
Everything is out of control. Everything needs to be reined in. Extreme regulation. Business will be unhappy but every brat is upset when they're told to act right. They got to big for their britches. Now gotta be brought back down to earth.
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u/neodiodorus Sep 21 '26
Amoebas but especially single cell intestinal parasites keep applauding him. Somehow.
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u/WHSRWizard Sep 21 '26
I have questions for the 29%.
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u/Glenbard Sep 21 '26
You’d have to make a commercial and air it on Faux News just to reach them for a question…
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u/LarrySupertramp Sep 21 '26
That 29%’s answers will consistent of claiming you have TDS and that everything would have been worse under Kamala. They stopped actually answering questions years ago.
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u/Ok_Door_9720 Florida Sep 21 '26
"Wow! Conservative governance really really sucks. Let's vote for it again"
-Roughly half of the electorate in the next election
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u/Worthyness Sep 21 '26
"Dems didn't fix the government in 2 years even thought he Republicans own every single facet of government power. Better vote republicans again"
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u/g_pelly California Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26
24% supported Nixon during Watergate. There's always been a delusional, brain dead segment of the populace.
Unfortunately those people (somehow) procreate.
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u/222Czar Florida Sep 21 '26
I feel the need to note: It’s not a genetic problem. It’s an education problem. It’s traceable and formulated to the extent that Republicans are willfully weaponizing it. Blaming people based on ancestry is more comforting, but the key conflict here is a class conflict, and all other tribalism is symptomatic. Stay mindful of history.
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u/cytherian New Jersey Sep 21 '26
In the thick of the Watergate scandal, he did have roughly 24% support, which was painfully low compared to pre-Watergate. But once the smoking gun came out, the altered tapes, he was done for. What's Trump going to have? Epstein scandal major reveal with verified witnesses coming forward? I think it's going to be some serious personal embezzlement of US funds. MAGA is totally over Epstein. "No Democrats? Then forget it. Don't care what kids Trump raped."
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u/SubmitSubmitTotal Sep 21 '26
Reading about Watergate and comparing it to Trump is like a fever dream.
Trump would have 100000% gotten away with it. That's not even close to most of the scandals he did.
What the fuck happened America...
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u/Newsweek_CarloV ✔ Verified - Newsweek Sep 21 '26
From the article:
President Donald Trump's approval rating dropped below 30 percent for the first time across both his White House terms Monday, as the midterms draw closer.
The new poll, from American Research Group, conducted September 16-20 among 1,100 American adults, showed the president with a 29 percent overall approval rating, with positive views on the economy at 26 percent.
Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-approval-rating-hits-all-time-low-12467727
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u/HighKingOfGondor Colorado Sep 21 '26
1 in 4 people thinking the economy is good is wild
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u/MC_Fap_Commander America Sep 21 '26
There are plenty of people in the top 20% of the economy under the delusion they're in the top 1%.
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u/Saneless Sep 21 '26
I don't have any financial issues but I'm also not stupid and can clearly see what's happening
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u/jleonardbc Sep 21 '26
The economy is amazing for people whose daily costs are offset by massive investments in the artificially skyrocketing stock market.
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u/neodiodorus Sep 21 '26
He said it is 95% didn't he just few days ago? I am sure soon he will have 137.2% approval rating. Bigly. No president ever has been so approved. Approvedest president ever.
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u/Outrageous-Hearing34 Sep 21 '26
95% from a poll that you had to opt in via his socials
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u/PossMom Sep 21 '26
A lot of people in the comments are claiming that's way too high, but this is actually significant. There's a political theory called the 33% threshold. In a nutshell, it's pretty much that no matter how polarizing they are, a populist strong-man leader can easily hold onto a 33% approve rating, as that's roughly their ride or die base.
After Watergate, Nixon only fell to 24%, proving that no matter how badly a President fucks up, they'll always have a loyal base.
Polling only drops below 33% if they've truly fucked up. Trump's approval finally hitting the 20s signifies that he's starting to lose some of his ride-or-die base. As things continue to get worse, we'll definitely see it get closer to the Nixon level.
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u/threevaluelogic Sep 21 '26
Crazy that what Nixon did is beaten by trump multiple times a day.
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u/PossMom Sep 21 '26
I guess when you do a Watergate everyday people just grow numb to it.
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u/Sturmgeshootz Sep 21 '26
That is by design. It's called "Flood the Zone" and was a strategy devised and implemented by Steve Bannon. 1 Watergate? Big, big deal. 1,000 Watergates? People lose the ability to focus on any one issue.
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u/NextJuice1622 Sep 21 '26
Ride or die...Rogan just came out and said he's always been left wing lmfao so yeah it's happening.
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u/00Qant5689 Sep 21 '26
The fact that 30% of Americans are still willing to back this authoritarian and creep is already deeply alarming.
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u/Icy_Feedback_4965 Sep 21 '26
Only 65% approval from those self-identifying as Republicans is even more telling. He could have done all the Project 2025 garbage he wanted, built all the ballrooms he wanted, deported all "those people" he wanted, without losing that base support. But starting a war in the Middle East should have been an obvious bridge too far.
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u/Vsx Sep 21 '26
They only care about the war because it is affecting gas prices. Republicans give unconditional support until their lives are significantly impacted directly and apparently 29% continue to do so anyway. It's funny to watch them go on facebook and argue either that high gas prices are a good thing or that gas prices were slightly worse under Biden. Even if that were true (it's not) being slightly better than "the worst president ever" doesn't justify support for the current admin.
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u/Happy_Feet333 Sep 21 '26
Well, this is the first "Trump's polling at <insert percentage here>" story that actually warrants attention... because it's now below 30%.
That means his base is starting to crack... if the polling numbers are consistent and this isn't a "one-off" blip.
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u/dnchw2 Sep 21 '26
I have a hard time believing that people won't vote for him if given the chance, even though, constitutionally speaking, he can't run.
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u/smack54az Sep 21 '26
Finally. That's the death knell I've been waiting years for. <30% and he can no longer win national elections, the cult doesn't have the political strength to bully Republicans in office as much. This does actually matter, not this second but Trump is done.
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u/Ackerack Sep 21 '26
Disapproving does NOT mean not voting republican anyway. Still gotta vote our asses off in November, because of the conservatives who said they disapprove of him I guarantee you 75% or more of them will still vote republican.
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u/noelcowardspeaksout Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26
Yes, though it's only one poll - the average is 38 - 39% approval on the NYT poll of polls. But it is going to be an odd election, MAGA are still going to say 'we support Trump', but the enthusiasm has dropped a great deal and hopefully they won't bother to vote, so the Dems are expected to surpass predictions.
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u/Blue-Blazer-Regular Sep 21 '26
The new poll, from American Research Group, conducted September 16-20 among 1,100 American adults, showed the president with a 29 percent overall approval rating, with positive views on the economy at 26 percent.
They talk about the K-shaped economy when some people are doing well and others are suffering. The 26% must be doing really well and have so much money that inflation and high prices don’t impact them.
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u/FeelingStore8113 Sep 21 '26
People will see this and immediately call out the fact that we have a literacy problem, or that the US has too many dummies. "It should be 3%, 30% is still too high."
I will say this as many times as you need to hear it: those remaining 30% aren't still supporting this pedophilic nazi freak because they are dumb. They are supporting him because they like his cruelty, avarice, and sociopathy. They voted *for* the rape and the insurrection.
One day, you'll get it. You won't have a choice.
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u/LordAlvis Sep 21 '26
Some context:
59% of Americans believe in a literal Hell.
58% believe in a literal Devil.
39% believe in ghosts.
37% believe humans sprang into existence magically in the last 10,000 years.
30% believe in the existence of Bigfoot.
[Trump approvers are here.]
4% believe the US government is controlled by lizard people.
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u/_0611 Sep 21 '26
People need to remember that this is mostly because of high prices, especially gas and grocery prices. If they weren't as high as they are, Trump's approval would be closer to 50%, if not more.
This isn't because of Epstein, ICE or the raping of democracy and the rule of law.
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u/IAmTheJudasTree Sep 21 '26
I say this definitively, in a pre-social media age, Trump's approval would be 10% at most by now. It's absolutely insane how long the list of reasons why the public should hate him is at this point. The only reason he still has even 30%-ish approval is because the conservative media ecosystem is so massive and self-contained now. You can live inside of it and never have to be exposed to any other information about the world.
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u/BrandenWi Sep 21 '26
Trump and his bootlickers continue to scream "Biden! Biden! Biden!" but the polls show that after almost two years, no one is buying his bullshit.
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u/buck9000 Sep 21 '26
It’s almost as if bullshitting your way thru a presidency won’t work. It’s almost like there is an independent reality out there that will, eventually, start to reassert itself.
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u/indigocherry Sep 21 '26
It isn't low enough until it's 0, which I know will never happen. But at LEAST below 25%.
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u/MinivanPops Sep 21 '26
My 82 year old mother has gotten worse every week. Racist, stupid, hateful, petty, vindictive, cruel little woman who will cheer on ICE in her garage while smoking a cigarette.
It's so fucking hard to watch.
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u/shoulda-known-better Sep 21 '26
This was supposed to be a yay go us type article...
Only made me realize how fucking dumb so so many people still are fucking 30% of people just straight up lying to themselves
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u/tapdancinghellspawn Sep 21 '26
Welcome to the party, you fuckwits who held out this long. How many hits to the side of the head did it take to wake up?
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u/Exciting-Record8101 Europe Sep 21 '26
It doesn't matter if about half of US voters will mindlessly pick 'Some Other Republican' anyway.
Which is exactly what they have done for decades, and will continue to do.
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u/xkenn Sep 21 '26
This is more alarming in the fact that he still has any support. How are people claiming the economy is booming while they pay $100+ for a tank of gas, no jobs and no health insurance, unable to eat half the foods in overpriced grocery stores? Not to mention measles is making a comeback because he is spreading antivax propaganda and data centers are ruining water supplies in their cites so this fat oaf can generate a picture of himself as Jesus.
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u/Few_Ticket6959 Sep 21 '26
You can lie and bullshit people about a lot of things. You can't bullshit people about what's in their wallet.
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u/GalumphingWithGlee Sep 21 '26
It's crazy to me that this man's approval ratings have ever been above 30%.
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u/Jrobalmighty Sep 21 '26
It should be 0 but we have so many supernatural thinking stooges in this country.
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u/Enough_Concept3424 Sep 21 '26
At NASCAR this weekend, lots of "F Trump". But they wont change parties or think about the other party. They just hate Trump now.
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u/Calm_Chemist_4952 Sep 21 '26
This election can be the difference maker. End the GOP. Maga will disappear into the shadows, and Trump will be like a caged animal, with no escape.
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u/mrgraff New Mexico Sep 21 '26
Unless there’s news of a real look at invoking the 25th amendment, or the polls concern him so much that resignation is on the table… who cares about these polls??
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