r/pcmasterrace • • 8h ago

News/Article BioWare is closing down.

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u/cornbread6767 8h ago

EA dooms every property that they purchase.

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u/Great_White_Samurai 8h ago

You can't put it all on EA. Bioware was a highly mismanaged company and it was their own fault. Their development cycle was dick around for several years then try to churn out a game in one year.

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u/DemonicArthas Specs/Imgur here 7h ago edited 7h ago

Bullshit. Complete and utter bullshit. Every time this happens, every time, some people come out and say "Oh, it's actually not EA's fault! See, they bought a great studio, but the next few games from that studio flopped. What did you expect EA to do? They're a business, after all!"

At some point you people should realize that if EA buys a studio and that studio starts producing horrible games, then the fault is with EA. One or two times I could believe it. But how many studio died under EA by now, while releasing bangers before that?

IDK if it's copium or some EA damage control or what, but it's bullshit. It's EA's fault, full stop.

EDIT: a word

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u/Great_White_Samurai 7h ago edited 7h ago

I see EA as more of a catalyst for Bioware's demise and not the sole reason. Bioware was a fundamentally disfuntional company with how they operated. They needed tons of time to fuck around to make a good game. They also had some brilliant people that had some great ideas, but they all ended jumping ship. EA put them under actual deadlines, Bioware still fucked around as usual, but had to publish the shit sandwiches they were making. Ultimately I was think Bioware would be a dead studio regardless of EA acquisition, EA just sped it up a tiny bit.

I think a better example of what you're saying is Dead Space. That was 100% a franchise that was killed off by EA being stupid and greedy.

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u/DemonicArthas Specs/Imgur here 7h ago

I honestly think just about every franchise and studio that died under EA died because of them being stupid and greedy. Maybe there are exceptions, but those just prove the rule, IMO.

Even then, if (in this example) Bioware liked to experiment and fuck around, but produced some great (and profitable) games because of that, wouldn't it be wiser to just let them do that? Instead of whatever they did with Anthem, Veilguard, etc.?

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u/ProfessionalDoctor 7h ago

EA wasn't in the writing room churning out all the horrific dialogue in Veilguard.

I'm not a fan of EA and I think they ruin everything they touch, but the Bioware we knew and loved died a long time ago.

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u/ibstrd 7h ago

EA did make them write a light story for a live service RPG. It only ended up as a single player game after Anthem crashed and burned.

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u/John-Dune-Awakening 5h ago

"light story" yeah, because that was the issue with the dialogue lmao

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u/ibstrd 4h ago

Lighthearted dialogue was one of the issues. I did not list all of them.

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u/cornbread6767 3h ago

I don't think that you know as much as you think that you do.

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u/DemonicArthas Specs/Imgur here 7h ago

EA wasn't in the writing room

And who hired people writing dialogues, I wonder. Also, there's a reason people say the dialogue feels like HR is standing in the room.

the Bioware we knew and loved died a long time ago

And why do you think that is? Did the founders, the upper management, all the good developers left... just cause? Or maybe it's because EA is forcing developers to do shit they don't want to do, meddles in the production and hiring processes, pays less than they should, force horrible deadlines, etc.?

It's called cause-and-effect. If the same story happens with EVERY studio the publisher bought up for more than 5 times, surely you should realize SOMETHING is up.

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u/ProfessionalDoctor 7h ago

And who hired people writing dialogues, I wonder

The managers at Bioware

And why do you think that is? Did the founders, the upper management, all the good developers left... just cause?

I'm not blaming the founders or old staff members, and their reasons for leaving are irrelevant to the central point: in the past 15 years, Bioware as a studio has proven itself incapable of making a good game. The fact that the current staff can't write is not the fault of the founders leaving after the EA acquisition. I agree with you that EA is a shit company that ruins everything, but they aren't to blame for every problem Bioware had.

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u/DemonicArthas Specs/Imgur here 5h ago edited 5h ago

I'm not blaming the founders or old staff members

Huh? I never said you did?

their reasons for leaving are irrelevant to the central point

It's actually very relevant. All the good developers left in the following years after EA acquisition, but EA is not to blame?

in the past 15 years, Bioware as a studio has proven itself incapable of making a good game

EXACTLY! They were making great games, but as soon as EA bought them, the studio stopped making great games and core studio members left. And we've seen this like what, 7 times now with DIFFERENT studios? How can you not put 2 and 2 together?

The fact that the current staff can't write is not the fault of the founders

What? What are you talking about? Who even blaming the old developers for anything?

Wait, I'm starting to think you're not even actually reading what I'm typing and completely missing the point, huh... Are you, like... illiterate or what's going on?

EA is a shit company that ruins everything

Except Bioware, apparently? Like ????

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u/Confron7a7ion7 PC Master Race 6h ago

And they hated him for he spoke the truth.

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u/Evening_Telephone_26 7h ago

that this is getting down voted is actually crazy to me! lol you're completely correct