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News/Article BioWare is closing down.

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u/PoroPopRocks 7h ago

Out of the games listed in bold. Not one of those franchises have had a hit in the last 15 years. Which is a shame. Some of my favorite games of all time. But id were being honest the same people who made those games do not work at there anymore

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u/Edgy_Robin 7h ago

I mean Baldurs Gate has a massive hit!

It just, y'know...Had the advantage of not being made by bioware lmao.

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u/Potential_Aioli_4611 7h ago

1 and 2 were GOOD. just never got the amount of popularity as 3 did. but still some of my favorite games as a kid. But that was OLD bioware.. current bioware makes trash. I'm not sorry they are shutting down cause they basically shot it in the leg close to two decades ago and it's been bleeding out since. Fuck EA.

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u/Edgy_Robin 6h ago

1 and 2 are genre defining games hailed as some of the best rpgs in history lmao, they absolutely did, but they're old games and people moved on.

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u/Adventurous_Wave_806 4h ago

Yeah you can tell this guy is under 25 lol

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u/AbsorbedWheat42 6h ago

1 & 2 were PC games at a time when PC gaming was more for enthusiasts and nerds.

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u/Adventurous_Wave_806 4h ago

They were PC games at a time when GAMING was more for enthusiasts and nerds.

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u/Amdusiasparagus 6h ago

They were so good they shaped the genre of western RPGs for decades to come and were - and often still are if only for historical reasons - considered as must-haves.

However, it was in a time where pc games, and video games in general simply weren't half as widespread and accepted as today. It simply wasn't physically possible to sell as many copies and have the popularity some games have today, but the cultural impact they made remains nonetheless absolutely massive.

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u/Adventurous_Wave_806 4h ago

BG2 was a legendary and widely heralded game, it was just 26 years ago.

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u/Mainely420Gaming 4h ago

My dude they made 1&2. Did you think the 3 in BG 3 was for kicks?

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u/OkActivity2038 3h ago

Many people legitimately don't even know BG1 and 2 even exists. They just ignore the 3.

Some people don't even know what a CRPG is, or even what an RPG is before BG3. They don't know that it's a sequel or even what DnD even is.

I saw a comment on YouTube today praising the class system and leveling of BG3 as revolutionary.

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u/ozmega 6h ago

Had the advantage of not being made by bioware lmao.

u might be onto something, but instead of asking larian to revive dragon age we might hope some new upcoming EU studio to do it, keep it away from LA

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u/Heavymando 5h ago

BG3 sure was and it also killed every fantasy RPG that came after it for the next like 2 years.

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u/WhoSc3w3dDaP00ch 5h ago

Definitely! I know some folks on their fourth or fifth playthrough (college students). They'd much rather revisit the Forgotten Realms with high quality than waste time on something "new and disappointing."

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u/Ok-Bill3318 1h ago

So, so glad baldurs gate 3 was not a BioWare title

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u/throwitaway_tdot 7h ago

I think dragon age inquisition sold a lot and even won goty, although in a weak year.

Granted, it doesn’t seem to have held through time compared to origins.

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u/zak55 7h ago

Inquisition was their best selling game. Plus ME 3 came out in 2012, which is only 14 years ago.

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u/ArstanWhitebeard297 7h ago

That’s 2 console generations ago. A lot has changed. 

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u/xX7heGuyXx 7h ago

This, the amount of time is wrong, but still, BioWare has long not been the group of people who made those great games.

Sucks because I love the Mass Effect universe, but they had zero idea what to do with it after the Reaper War and seemed really reluctant to just make another game during it from a new perspective or even just make a fucking MMO outa it.

Just a waste of essentially Star Trek + Star Wars that worked really well.

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u/TheFourtHorsmen 3h ago

Inquisition was crosplatform, but we can be right on saying they didn't release a decent game in the past 2 generations (current one, and xbox one/ps4 gen). Andromeda was a failure, anthem was a failure, veilguard was a failure.

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u/ArstanWhitebeard297 3h ago

I was more referring to ME3, Inquisition was panned badly when it released although I liked it. 

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u/countdorkyala 5h ago

ONLY?

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u/zak55 5h ago

Its within 15 years!

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u/Cultural_Mastodon_69 R9 5900X | RX 6900 XT | 64 GB 3600 MHz 4h ago

Some of us work on Bethesda timelines.

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u/AlterExpertise101 13m ago

Original comment so no hits in the past 15 years. Dude was pointing out that ME3 was 14 years ago.

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u/Sad_Ghost_Noises 4h ago

Fuck off. 2012 was like two years ago, max.

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u/Extreme996 RTX 4070 Ti Super | Ryzen 7 9800X3D |32GB DDR5 6000mhz 6h ago

Inquisition was released in 2014 which was very poor year for RPG. I never managed complete it because 90% of content I did was just bloat fetch quests.

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u/Ice278 RTX 2070 // Ryzen 2600x // 16gb Ram 7h ago

That was 12 years ago

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u/GrenHamblett 7h ago

I didn't hate Inquisition on my first playthrough, but I loathed starting a new game.

Holding R2 to attack is such a boring change from the CRPG roots the series had. (We're not talking about DA2)

And for the love of god, maybe they've patched it now, but the HAIR in Inquisition is some of the worst I've seen in ANY game with relatively good graphics. The beards look like someone smeared shit on their faces, literally.

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u/EverythingSucksYo 6h ago

And then there’s me who replayed the game several times to try out all classes lol 

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u/GRoyalPrime 7h ago

Inquisition will always have a fond spot in my memories, given it's the first game I bought for my (at the time) completely new PC bought from my first few months of wages.

Even if I also remember it being a bit of a mess already. Like who had the glorious idea of having the introduction to the main villain in the DLC of the previous game? That's just ass.

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u/Jayden82 RTX 3080 12GB - Ryzen 9800 X3D 6h ago

I’d been awaiting a solid RPG on my PS4 and it was one of the first I remember coming out so I played the shit out of it, so it’ll always have a soft spot for me too 

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u/A_Drop_of_Colour 2h ago

Inquisition took me years to finish because I kept getting burn out. But even when the gameplay got tedious, old Bioware knew how to write characters. Dragon Age still remains to this day, the only series where I have completed it with every race and done every romance.

And still with all that I have tried and failed to finish Veilguard since it came out. Opposite problem as Inquisition, fun game play and poor characterizations.

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u/WntrTmpst 5h ago

To be fair if you had previously played 2 and it’s dlc it would have been way cooler.

I’m still stuck in who made the architect and corypheus look like the same damn person.

Also technically solas was the bad guy, but that plot point was so contrived I ignored it entirely. Apparently the rest of BioWare did as well considering veilguard

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u/EncabulatorTurbo 6h ago

Inquisition would be a classic if they hadn't Wowified the fuck out of it and filled it with fucking mobile game mechanics to try to force daily engagement

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u/A_Drop_of_Colour 2h ago

What mobile game mechanics? Genuine question, not being snarky. I've 100% Inquisition on two consoles (three if you count that I had to 100% it for both 360 and then XBox One because of separated achievements). I don't remember any game mechanic that required daily engagement.

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u/scraw2k 1h ago

War table wait times probably, I mod that shit out every time.

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u/A_Drop_of_Colour 43m ago

Ahh, okay. Yeah agreed. I always forget about the war tables. I played on console so couldn't mod them out but after the first time I completed the game I just changed the Xbox time to complete most of them.

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u/Melodic_Crow_3409 6h ago

Inquisition felt to me too much like a lightweight MMO. It gave me Guild Wars 2 vibes. I never finished it.

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u/dkcraftbbq 7h ago

inquisition was a pile of hot garbage, it sold on the name, the game itself was a mess.

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u/fishvoidy 5h ago

i'm sure a lot of people feel nostalgic about Inquisition, but if you jump into it immediately after playing Origins and DA2, it slaps you in the face with how much of a huge backwards step it actually was.

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u/alpacadaver 6h ago edited 6h ago

The moment I cleared through a bunch of mobs and then had them spawn behind me on a one minute timer is the moment I uninstalled it. Wow already exists and it's better. And Origins still exists and it's better.

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u/dkcraftbbq 6h ago

Yep, impossible to play tactically

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u/Dixa 7h ago

Bull. The game was fantastic. Better than 2. Better gameplay loop than 1.

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u/dkcraftbbq 7h ago edited 6h ago

My first impression into the game was meticulously setting up one of of the opening battles. I moved each of my companions into positions, set up their orders, readied, actions, spent like 30-45 minutes reading through all the abilities and making sure I was good to go. Started the battle and every single character straight up ignored "hold position" and undid all my work. Found out other players were all having the same issue and that "hold position" was treated by the AI as a suggestion, not a hard order. No fucking thank you. I can't speak towards how much fun you may have had with the game, how good or bad the story was, etc. All I can say is they absolutely massacred the tactical playstyle of the franchise that I purchased it for. Quickest refund I ever made.

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u/Dixa 6h ago

I question may have had an overhead strategy mode but the game was very clearly designed for more moment to moment combat. I knew this going in. I preferred it as I find turn based gameplay slow and tedious. So this is a non issue for me.

But I guess we shall gloss over the fact that origins ai wasn’t any better unless you could figure out the convoluted systems.

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u/dkcraftbbq 6h ago

I think that's fair if you didn't want to play it from an overhead tactical standpoint. HOWEVER, Origins practically redefined the genre. It was the biggest breath of fresh air in tactical RPGs since baldur's gate 2, and opened up the doors for games like Pillars of Eternity, Divinity, and I'd argue even BG3. I went into Inquisition expecting those systems to remain in tact, and was completely blindsided by how poor the minute controls were. Felt like they pulled a Mass Effect on me and I wasn't happy about it.

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u/Dixa 6h ago

You also didn’t have to pause origins ever. Thats what was new about it. It could just be played in real time and done so successfully

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u/IceC0re 6h ago

Agreed that it's better than 2 in basically every aspect. It is definitely not better than 1 in any aspect, that's for sure.

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u/Moromom22 7h ago

I partially agree. I've played hours into it but the mmo style gameplay threw me off. The classes feel so uninspired. I don't plan on finishing it but it had it's charm.

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u/Prophet_Tenebrae 6h ago

I know it started life as an MMO (so the story goes) but it genuinely feels like a massive over-correction from all the criticism of DA2.

People didn't like the game being just one city? Fine. Have a dozen different areas that are all huge and very distinct.

There's not enough to do? Here, have a bunch of busy work tasks to while away the hours.

Too short? No problem, just the starter area will take ages to do!

Enemies die to quickly? Here, have enemies that are spongy like a mother fucker even on the lowest difficulty setting.

It's not bad but it's funny to see it so overstuffed with busy work content like it was an Assassin's Creed game where you can be 30 hours in and still find new minigames.

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u/Deeppurp 7h ago

If they trimmed up hinterlands a bit it might have had some staying power.

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u/Snoo-28829 7h ago

I actually enjoyed dragon age inquisition but it was the last game I bought of theirs. The new dragon didnt look like aomething I would be interested in so I never bought it.

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u/Prophet_Tenebrae 6h ago

I'm not sure I've seen anyone say anything nice about Veilguard.

If it was Generic Fantasy RPG, I think people would have been kinder to it but it's not.

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u/EverythingSucksYo 6h ago

I think the later game went on gamepass a while ago so I tried it and I did not like at all. DQ Inquisition was one of my favorites I remember replaying it many times to try out all the classes. Only played Veilguard for like 2 hours before calling it quits. 

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u/Own-Refrigerator7804 5h ago

And how long ago was that?

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u/CaleanKnight 5h ago

Inquisition was the last gasp of a Studio that was already beset by internal Bullshit and Mismanagement.

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u/AlsoOtto 5h ago

And even that is 12 years old next month.

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u/palehighelven 2h ago

It was a shell of what made the original Dragon Age good. It sucks for the people losing their jobs but that franchise was in a downward spiral ever since the first game.

Every installment moved further and further away from the CRPG format and with it went my interest in dragon age every time.

Then adding insult to injury, baldurs gate 3 came out which proved CRPGs are still massively popular if done right and I always felt like that could’ve been BioWares success if leadership had a shred of vision in what made the original dragon age cool.

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u/Silvertip_M 1h ago

I enjoyed inquisition far more than I did Origins, but to each their own...

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u/koosekoose 16m ago

And how about Veilguard?

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u/Less_Avocado980 7h ago

Ironically 2014 (the year DQ: Inquisition released) was a pretty good year for Wii U (or Nintendo games in general)

It had Donkey Kong: Tropical Freeze, Mario Kart 8, Bayonetta 2 and Super Smash Bros for Wii U

And on the 3DS site we had Tomodachi Life, Super Smash Bros for 3DS and Pokemon ORAS

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u/nekomata_58 | R7 7700 | 4070 ti 6h ago edited 6h ago

Origins > Inquisition for sure.

Inquisition has almost no replay-value with no actual branching choices that matter. When I played Inquisition back in 2014 I was disappointed and was extremely surprised to see it win GotY.

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u/Saphira2002 6h ago

Origins aged like milk in everything but the narrative elements in my opinion. It's so clunky to play now.

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u/fishvoidy 5h ago

not to mention that it's literally unplayable after a certain point on PC without a mod to fix a critical memory leak issue.

i'm typically "whatever" about remakes, but Origins was one i was really hoping for at some point.

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u/Saphira2002 4h ago

I was too scared for how they'd murder the writing to be happy about gameplay in a remake lol

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u/fishvoidy 4h ago

oh, if they touched any of the writing i'd be pissed. lmao

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u/Consistent_Laziness 9800x3d | 32GB 6000 | 6950XT 7h ago

Putting anthem on that list is crazy. That’s probably how we got here. They know anthem marks the beginning of the end for them right?

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u/Deeppurp 7h ago

It wasn't even just Anthem.

It was Anthem and Andromeda.

Game play has never really been their problem, they couldn't ripcord and pull Anthem around soon enough on the end game narrative and game cycle. The writing on Andromeda was not fully up to spec through the red lense of their prior games.

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u/GrenHamblett 7h ago

I liked Andromeda for the most part, but the quippy companions were soooo unbelievably bad. It's the only thing that's stuck with me and will remain the only reason I don't replay it.

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u/AbsorbedWheat42 6h ago

Yeah I didn't mind Andromeda. Was it as good as 1 & 2? No. But that's almost an impossible goal as those were the type of games that don't come around often.

It had a good world and I could see potential in expanding it. The story itself was also solid. Not as good as the trilogy but again, hard to compete.

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u/PauseLost2137 6h ago

People are too forgiving for ME3 nowadays because the characters developed in the previous games carried it and received some iconic resolutions like Mordin.

But pretty much every character that ME3 introduced was dogshit. Except Javik, Javik's great but you couldn't even enjoy him originally as he was cut from the base game to be sold as DLC.

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u/Ode1st 3h ago

People are too forgiving of Andromeda nowadays. It was pretty universally and infamously disliked and heavily criticized when it was released. Horrible bugs, bad graphics and animations, rote gameplay, bad story and dialogue, unfinished story beats, etc.

The studio even got shut down because of it, which back then, happened more due to failure rather than because of the trash way this industry works now.

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u/kirotheavenger 5h ago

TBH I quite liked James, certainly more than I did Jacob

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u/RandomWordCombo9632 3h ago edited 3h ago

The problem with both Andromeda and Anthem was that Bioware spent way too long fucking about in preproduction trying to figure out what the game should be.

Andromeda with its procederally generated planets to explore until EA started asking where the actual game was.

Anthem with its... everything to the point an EA exec had to tell them "No. Put the flying back in. That was fun. Why did you take it out?"

Veilguard I put at EA's feet though. They had to reboot that game twice from a singleplayer RPG(Dreadwolf) to a live service game, and then back to a single player game because live service games were dying left and right.

Veilguard's writing I put on Bioware though:

("The elven gods Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain"

"The elven gods Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain"

"The elven gods Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain"

"The elven gods Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain"

"The elven gods Elgar'nan and Ghilan'nain"

Yah yah I GET IT! I GOT IT! WE'RE FIGHTING THE ELVEN GODS SHUT UP ABOUT IT!)

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u/bluris 6h ago

Andromeda wasn't "main" Bioware studio. but BioWare Montreal that was merged into another EA studio.

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u/Deeppurp 6h ago

yes but when you have 2 studios that functionally had the same problem, you have a leadership problem of that studio.

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u/goodsnpr R5 3600 | 3080ti 6h ago

Even Dragon Age Inquisition was a downturn compared to previous titles. Hell, Knights of the Old Republic 2 was a letdown due to it being rushed.

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u/Desmond253 PC Master Race 4h ago

Bioware didn't make Kotor 2

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u/CntBlah 5h ago

Bruh, my face is tired

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u/Adventurous_Wave_806 4h ago

Gameplay in Andromeda was yikes, though.

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u/GoatCovfefe 3h ago

That's why ghey said Anthem marked the beginning of the downfall.

Anthem came out first... And was the beginning.

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u/Deeppurp 2h ago

Anthem came out 2 years after Andromeda.

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u/EverythingSucksYo 6h ago

I’m pissed about Anthem, it had potential to be a game I could have really enjoyed and they screw it. 

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u/AhnoldXP 7h ago

I unironically loved that game. It was half baked but the core gameplay (especially flying around like Iron Man) was fun as fuck. With good leadership it probably could have at least been somewhat successful.

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u/Consistent_Laziness 9800x3d | 32GB 6000 | 6950XT 7h ago

It was fun for about a week. The idea was good but the loot was quarter baked and the available activities to do was minimal. No idea what they were thinking

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u/Ashamed-Example-2338 7h ago

yeah the core was good but then it seemed like they put all their effort in nongameplay stuff like the hub

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u/EverythingSucksYo 6h ago

The flying was fun, I just wish that was the focal point of combat, instead they stuck a timer on the length you can fly before overheating so a lot of combat took place on the ground, except for one class. 

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u/Useful_Perception620 7h ago

If the devs had access to the vibe code tools they do today, Anthem could have done well.

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u/Ungarlmek 6h ago

If cuck-coding was going to save them they wouldn't be dead right now.

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u/Gloomy_Team_7484 7h ago

The saddest part of Anthem was the very (VERY) few questline interactions with NPCs. 

It was a tiny shimmer of the old BioWare story telling and world building peeking up though the crap.

 You could tell there was an amazing world there that got buried under poor mechanics and focus on the wrong things.

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u/Trading_shadows 5h ago

Yep, Anthem being in that last post just spoils the whole idea.

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u/Tounushi 5h ago

I'd say the beginning of the end was during Mass Effect 3's development.

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u/SameImpression1646 4h ago

Totally agree, I know a lot of problems of Anthem was because of EA corp greed, but they should be ashamed of how they handled it, lies after lies

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u/lshun9 4h ago

Anthem was the start of their downfall , i couldn't even finish dragonage veilguard.

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u/Itz_Hen 7h ago

False, inquisition was their best selling game ever

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u/rtietatomic 7h ago

Hm... what happened a little more than 15 years ago with Bioware?

"The next few years saw a number of changes in BioWare's corporate status. In November 2005, it was announced that BioWare and Pandemic Studios (itself founded by former Activision employees) would be joining forces (with each maintaining their own branding), with private equity fund Elevation Partners investing in the newly named VG Holding Corp. partnership. On 11 October 2007, it was announced that VG Holding Corp. had been bought by Electronic Arts for US$775 million (equivalent to $1.2 billion in 2025).\13]) BioWare therefore became a unit of EA, but still retained its own branding."

Funny how that works. But Bioware's founders made a fortune so I guess good for them?

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u/Imaginary-Face7379 6h ago

They made a fortune and dipped from Bioware the moment their contracts with EA allowed them to. They already had careers before Bioware in the medical field (which is why they named the company Bioware) and by the time they sold the company they were already looking towards what they wanted to do next because they were basically bored with games.

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u/CrispyVibes 5h ago

Honestly if I made my bag I'd dip too.

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u/rtietatomic 5h ago

Yeah aware of the Bioware lore, my brother in law lived in Edmonton around the time Bioware started and is friends with more than a few of the original staff. It's weird to hear him talk about those days and know when he mentions "Mark" he's talking about Mark Meer...

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u/OnAPartyRock 6h ago

They went on to make Mass Effect 2 in 2012, so I doubt that was the entire issue behind BioWare’s enshitification.

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u/Automatic_Art_4469 6h ago

That was Mass Effect 3 in 2012, and that game is widely regarded as the beginning of the end for them

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u/Correct-Mall651 7h ago

 ..Those people were passionate gamers themselves. Making games wasn't just a job to them, and you could feel that passion when you played their games. Nowadays, it feels like some developers are just watching the clock, waiting for their shift to end. You can't expect people who genuinely care about games to take lectures from some suits who know nothing about gaming. So they left.

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u/Prophet_Tenebrae 7h ago

People have this problem where they don't realise how much churn there is at developers. The company that made "Dragon Age: Origin" is not the same company that made "Dragon Age: Veilguard".

The glory days are a long time ago and much of Bioware's hype has been a function of people mistakenly thinking that - despite all evidence to the contrary - they're going to turn around and make another KOTOR or ME or DA:O like they haven't spent almost a decade and a half proving they simply aren't able to do that any more.

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u/NearPup Specs/Imgur Here 4h ago

As divisive as Inquisition was it’s hard to not call it a hit

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u/MinRoll 7h ago

Baldur's Gate??????

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u/Brittig 7h ago

Poor wording on ops part but Baldurs Gate 3 wasn't made by Bioware so its not really a point in their favor

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u/xVelunax 7h ago

There is a reason Larian Studios started at BG3.

BioWare did BG1 and BG2 back in the 90s. It was a different time. I tried playing BG1/BG2 after playing BG3 and I instantly regretted my choice. They are not modern games at all and I don't think hold up well today.

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u/npsimons Linux master race since before you were born 7h ago

"NeverWinter Nights" still has a modding community; Luke Scull is on Patreon making money making modules.

Say whatever you want about "hits", I, and many others, could not care less about market share. Some peoples' definition of "success" is incredibly disappointing.

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u/elinamebro PC Master Race 6h ago

Well Mass effect Andromeda did after a few years I came out tho

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u/MachBonin Avenger2099 6h ago

Mass Effect 3 wasn't a hit? Same with DA:I?

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u/the_dude_that_faps 6h ago

Me3 may be divisive, but it certainly is a hit and is less than 15 years ago

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u/ILikeFlyingMachines 6h ago

BG3 was a MAJOR hit.

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u/2peg2city 6h ago

Inquisition?

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u/Calm-Grapefruit-3153 5h ago

I would say the baldurs gate franchise has definitely had a hit recently.

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u/Ohitsworkingnow 5h ago

Was baldurs gate 3 not a success? All I heard was good things 

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u/dontcha_wanna_fanta 5h ago

Yeah it's was a bold move to list anthem. Will miss them tho, they were real people doing a real good job

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u/Esdrz 5h ago

Inquisition goty

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u/ALEKSDRAVEN 4h ago

Actually Andromeda sold on par with rest of ME titles. Anthem the same.

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u/Pursueth 4h ago

SWTOR no!!!! 😢

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u/Morlacks 3h ago

Funny enough they got bought by EA in 2007 or 19 years ago. Basically no good games post buyout, anything shipped the first four years was already in development.

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u/Mr_Cerealistic 3h ago

You hit the nail on the head.

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u/BmacTheSage 3h ago

Maybe not one done by them. Baldur's Gate 3 was massive and won GOTY

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u/Proctoron 3h ago

So around the time EA bought Bioware

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u/OrneryJack 3h ago

EA has shut down a lot of studios for fewer failures, or none at all. BioWare just lost a lot of the talent that made it great. Writing, coding, they all left over crunch and other issues, or were forced out over things they had no control over. What was left is barely worth mourning.

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u/Icy_Wasabi7823 3h ago

Didn’t Baldur’s gate 3 come out like 3 years ago? Wasn’t that like a huge hit? Like I recall not being able to escape baldurs gate 3 content for like a year at least, and I actively tried to avoid it

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u/HPCBusinessManager 3h ago

Baldurs gate? Are you just like fabricating shit or what?

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u/DiligentFoundation83 2h ago

Wait what? Baldur's gate 3 won game of the year lmao

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u/Far_Priority_6305 2h ago

Wasn't baulders gate a huge success?

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u/Artess PC Master Race 2h ago

Um, actually Mass Effect 3 came out 14 years and 7 months ago...

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u/TheSletchman 1h ago

Yeah. This is sad to hear but the Bioware I grew up on died a long time ago - none of guys who were there for Baldur's Gate, Neverwinter Knights, Knights of the Old Republic, Dragon Age or Mass Effect are there anymore, and haven't been for a long time.

Like a lot of people I hoped Mass Effect 4 might pull it together for them, but it was at best a very cautious optimism.

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u/Jacky_dain 1h ago

Anthem could have been amazing also if BioWare didn’t screw it up

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u/Single-Refuse174 5h ago

baldur's gate was a mega hit

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u/JefferyTheQuaxly 7h ago

what do you mean? dragon age veilguard was obviously a huge hit!

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u/WasteTangerine 7h ago

Buddy did you miss the new baulders gate game?

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u/DickPuncht 7h ago

New one was not developed by Bioware

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u/AMaynard8091 7h ago

Larian ironically found success by making the type of RPG that BioWare has been too embarrassed to make for the last twenty years as they have increasingly focused on style over substance.

And to be fair, some if not a lot of that was probably due to pressure on them by EA.

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u/WasteTangerine 6h ago

It's still in the franchise though yes? Looks like BioWare will go down as being the devs that made the crappy Baulders Gate

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u/DickPuncht 4h ago

Not really, the BioWare Baldurs Gate games are considered some of the best DND PC games of all time, they just hadn’t touched the franchise since 2001 and left it for Larian to pick up again. Not that I would have trusted EA’s BioWare to do anything good with it.

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u/pigeonwiggle 7h ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baldur%27s_Gate_3

this one? from Larian studios?

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u/WasteTangerine 6h ago

Yeah it's too bad BioWare lost that franchise to a good developer.

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u/LordOfFlames55 7h ago

The one they didn’t make?

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u/WasteTangerine 6h ago

That's still a part of the franchise? The one that became a succes in another more competent developers hands?

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u/PineapleGG 9850x3d 5070ti / 5700x3d 3080 7h ago

Imagine being this confident

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u/WasteTangerine 6h ago

Why do you think baulders Gate 3 isn't part of the franchise? Sucks BioWare didn't get to make it huh🤷

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u/PineapleGG 9850x3d 5070ti / 5700x3d 3080 5h ago

If baldurs gate 3 had been made by bioware it would never have been even close to good, much less the masterpiece that is it

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u/Nope_______ 7h ago

The one that wasn't developed by Bioware?

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u/WasteTangerine 6h ago

That's still a part of the franchise?

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u/Daniel-Mclovin 7h ago

Bless your heart

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u/LSDeities 7h ago

Yeah the really good one made by Larian Studios. It's an amazing game!

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u/WasteTangerine 6h ago

Some would even say it's the best in the franchise.

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u/tomonee7358 7h ago

What are you talking about? Baldur's Gate 3 isn't remotely related to Bioware, not even former devs.

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u/WasteTangerine 6h ago

He said not one of those franchises had a hit.

Baulders gate is a franchise. Sorry BioWare didn't make a baulders gate game as good as Larian.

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u/Sbarty 7h ago

bioware had nothing to do with this "buddy" lmao.

saving before you delete

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u/According-Annual-586 7h ago

Purely semantics, but the original post simply said that the franchises haven’t had a hit game, didn’t mention anything about it being made by BioWare or not

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u/WasteTangerine 6h ago

Finally a smart guy

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u/WasteTangerine 6h ago

Baulders gate is one of the franchises listed in bold that has had a hit game in the last 15 years. Why would I delete it because nobody knows how to read?

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u/Sbarty 4h ago

Yeah bro Larian’s Baldurs Gate 3 was definitely going to save BioWare

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u/DarkAlatreon 7h ago

Well, not made by them, that one.

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u/diogenessexychicken 7h ago

Larian developed BG3.

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u/Ancient_Moose_3000 7h ago

Made by larian

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u/Late_Stage_Exception 7h ago

Baldur’s…Gate…? You sure about that?

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u/AxiisFW 7h ago

that was larian

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u/MancyMancy 7h ago

They didnt make BG3.

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u/fenlock56 7h ago

I presume he meant under BioWare

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u/usernameisusername57 RTX 3080 | R7 5800X3D | 32GB RAM | 3440x1440@100Hz 7h ago

Baldur's Gate 3 wasn't developed by Bioware.

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u/Jamboro 7h ago

Well, a hit made by Bioware then. Different studio made BG3.

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u/Deeppurp 7h ago

Baldur's Gate hasn't been a BioWare game in 15 years.

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u/Late_Stage_Exception 5h ago

“Not one franchise has had a hit in the last 15 years”. OP didn’t specify they had to be BioWare.