r/pcmasterrace • • 10h ago

Meme/Macro Ape has a point

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u/Baxxtabb 10h ago

There's no difference between pre-ordering and waiting for launch day when you know you're going to buy it lmao.

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u/ekimolaos 10h ago

There is. On launch day there's a chance you'll hear about thousands of negative reviews so you may change your mind before buying. Small chance since it's launch day, but still it exists.

If you pre-order you just give your money randomly for something that doesn't exist yet nor is going to run out since it's digital.

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u/kent1146 10h ago

If you buy the game on Steam, you have the return window.

If the game doesn't launch, runs poorly, or is getting trashed in reviews, you can get a refund.

It is highly unlikely that you would've run the game for 2+ hours at that point, if the game is dogshit. And I'm sure that Steam would be flooded with similar refund requests.

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u/ekimolaos 10h ago

There are too many "ifs" there for something to actually work for a majority.

The facts are that pre-ordering games are one of the (many) reasons that the game industry is shit and customers are fucked. Your ifs don't help the fact. Your pre-ordering does though.

Keep pre-ordering digital games without a real way to know if the product you're paying for is going to be good. Let the industry rot more.

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u/UpInClouds 9h ago

all those ifs are solved by the same solution of just returning the game, what the hell are you talking about

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u/ShrekBackShots 10h ago

Why are you so mad about the way people spend their money? Pre-ordering games didn't "ruin" the games industry. Sounds like you don't play a lot of video games if we're being honest.

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u/aegis87 9h ago

no one is mad Shrek. We are explaining the dynamics to you.

- Companies could allow reviewers early access to games, so that on launch day you know what you are buying.

  • They don't do that.
  • On average this hurts the consumer
  • One reason they don't do that is because a lot of people don't mind prepaying for a game they haven't seen.

In other words, video game publishers have shifted the risk to the consumer and have zero incentives to change.

Feel free to continue spending as you wish; even if it means buying blindly. Meanwhile, we will keep highlighting the flaw in this logic in the hopes of driving real change.

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u/Simple_Tip_7816 9h ago

You idiots are all so mad and so misinformed.

No one should listen to you.

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u/aegis87 9h ago

feel free to explain dumbass. you got time and presumably you know how to write simple sentences

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u/ShrekBackShots 9h ago

This is blatant misinformation. Companies regularly allow reviewers EA to games to review before launch?

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u/aegis87 8h ago

To be clear, there is 0 misinformation here. If reviews are available when you pre-buy a game, then the argument just doesn't apply.

I opted to write the pertinent aspects of the argument to avoid wasting everyone's time.

If a review is available and you like a game, there is (almost) 0 risk in pre-buying -- enjoy your game!

You need nuance though. For example in cyberpunk, reviewers were only given the PC version, not the other versions.
Also reviewers were not allowed to publish their own captured gameplay.

So there the argument does apply.

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u/ShrekBackShots 8h ago

One example from the past six years doesn’t mean your argument is correct. I see what you’re trying to say but the evidence just isn’t there.

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u/Tactical_Squishy 10h ago

there are no if just options

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u/Simple_Tip_7816 9h ago

wow so emotional

hope you feel this strongly about your local voting, because this seems super personal for you lol