r/pcmasterrace • u/Wargulf • 12h ago

News/Article Helldivers 2 gets hit by yet another review bomb as Easy Anti Cheat breaks the game's most ambitious mods

https://frvr.com/blog/news/helldivers-2-gets-hit-by-yet-another-review-bomb-as-easy-anti-cheat-breaks-the-games-most-ambitious-mods/
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u/GuyMansworth 11h ago

How can you say cheating doesn't ruin PVE games?

I was playing with my Nephew, he's 16 on PSN. He saw me and a friend using certain warbond weapons and was envious so he grinded for like 5 hours one night to get the same guns. He was so excited and kept talking about it.

Later he went to invite his friend to play with us who had everything unlocked and the poor boys attitude dropped as soon as he realized his friend had every single item in the game with 15 hours on record. His strategems could stick to things ours couldn't and so many more "quality of life" things. I don't think he's played it since.

Point is. If you cheat in a PVE game. It's still cheating. You're still a piece of shit. I'm fine with them adding modded lobbies only, but here's the fun thing..... cheaters don't want to play with other cheaters. Why is that?

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u/ShoulderWhich5520 10h ago

See, this here.

Cheating in a singleplayer game is fine.

But cheating in any MP game isnt. I did not think this was a difficult concept, if I logged into Darktide and played with cheaters I would be similarly unhappy. But because these people have been negatively affected (me to, I modded my armor) they are pissed.

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u/GuyMansworth 10h ago

Skyrims a great example. I mod the shit out of that game. But if I were to play a coop mod with a friend and went in without telling him I had crazy mods and he was expecting a genuine playthrough, I'd be a fucking asshole and waste his time.

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u/MrBanditFleshpound 10h ago

Problem with Helldivers is:

1: people already negatively affect each other by kicking and teamkilling and actually lynching people by your choices of tools on vanilla alone. 2: developers do seem to go the DbD way which does not help with number one 3:The seperation of Discord from other platforms and how many of the actual information is hidden from outside, so even people on every platform wont get some of the official info.

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u/rhou17 10h ago

one 16 year old enjoys a game differently to you

“ALL CHEATING IS REPREHENSIBLE AND MORALLY CORRUPT”

Dog I’m sorry that you lost your sense of pride and accomplishment because somebody else didn’t want to grind out basic quality of life features lmao

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u/It_just_works_bro 8h ago

"Quality of life"

Refers to the entire game

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u/GuyMansworth 10h ago

and i'm sorry you need cheats to keep up with other players in a multiplayer game. Yikes lol

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u/rhou17 8h ago

keep up with other players

ah yes how very skilled one must be to grind lol

this dude has a fascinating post history too highly recommend

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u/ImprintVector 10h ago

Crossplay off. Problem solved.

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u/FUPAMagneto 10h ago

Bro if you’re just gonna cheat why bother playing? That’s so pathetic

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u/TotalChaosRush 9h ago

Because they enjoy the game, but not the grind.

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u/FUPAMagneto 9h ago

They clearly don’t enjoy the game, or else they wouldn’t be cheating in order to not have to play the game.

It’s so sad that yall have so thoroughly cooked your Briana that you can’t handle anything other than instant gratification

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u/Hefty_Map3665 8h ago

They clearly don’t enjoy the game, or else they wouldn’t be cheating in order to not have to play the game.

But they are clearly playing the game after they cheated?

You are just mad they dont want to grind before they can play/enjoy the game

It’s so sad that yall have so thoroughly cooked your Briana that you can’t handle anything other than instant gratification

Ironic

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u/FUPAMagneto 5h ago

Oh no, autocorrect made me make a minor spelling mistake, my entire argument is invalid.

Idk why I’m bothering to argue with spoiled children anyway

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u/Hefty_Map3665 4h ago

You probably should go touch some grass and let the grown ups handle it

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u/TotalChaosRush 8h ago

They don't enjoy it in the same manner you do. They doesn't mean they don't enjoy it.

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u/FUPAMagneto 5h ago

Bro hacking a multiplayer game is loser shit

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u/TotalChaosRush 4h ago

Pvp, sure. Pve? Who cares.

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u/Icarium__ 9h ago

Your brain is completely fried if the only way you can be motivated to play is grinding.

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u/FUPAMagneto 9h ago

“Bro you actually want to play a game??? You don’t want to just get everything immediately with no effort and bitch about how much the game sucks for years?? Are you even a gamer???”

Y’all are so fucking pathetic dawg

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u/Icarium__ 8h ago

That's what I'm talking about, your brain is so ruined that for you grinding IS the game, you cannot even comprehend the concept of a game that has no unlocks that you play because the actual gameplay itself is fun. Everything has to have a little progress bar that constantly goes up, otherwise you think it's pointless, and as soon as you get the thing you were griding for you instantly need something new to chase and grind for.

Get help.

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u/FUPAMagneto 5h ago

Honey, I never said any of that shit. I just think hacking in a multiplayer game is loser shit done by losers who can’t handle having to actually try at something in order to be successful at it

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u/Icarium__ 4h ago

Sweetie, if your brain is so broken you think gaming = grinding, then I'm sorry for you, I hope one day you grow up and realize you deserve better.

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u/FUPAMagneto 2h ago

Are you fucking illiterate?

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u/Icarium__ 2h ago

You don’t want to just get everything immediately with no effort and bitch about how much the game sucks for years??

your own words, but by all means, keep trying to gaslight

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u/Hawk-and-piper 8h ago

Why do you care how other people enjoy games. Some of us do not have time for grinding. I do not use cheats for this game, but I also do not give half a fek how anyone else enjoys it.

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u/FUPAMagneto 5h ago

Because hacking a multiplayer game is loser shit?

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u/youtocin 4h ago

Not a cheater but honestly if you spend money on a non-competitive game you should be able to play it how you want. Was it pathetic messing around with unlockable cheats in games like Goldeneye?

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u/FUPAMagneto 2h ago

Goldeneye wasn’t online multiplayer where other people playing can’t consent to you cheating. The fact that you’re reaching all the way back to fucking Goldeneye shows you know that.

You’re one of those people who watches shit on their phone in public at full volume, huh?

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u/ImprintVector 10h ago

Lmfao mf pulled out the pride and accomplishment. Straight up facts

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u/A_pirates_life4me 10h ago

You can unlock everything by paying money, is that not the same?

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u/FUPAMagneto 9h ago

It’s also sad and kinda pathetic, yeah

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u/theturtlemafiamusic 8h ago edited 5h ago

That's not true. You can't get war medals by paying money, you have to play missions to get them (or be a cheater).

Downvoted by people who don't play the game. Supercredits allow you to unlock war bonds. You have to spend medals on war bonds to unlock actual items in the game. You can't purchase everything and just get it, it only grants you the ability to unlock them with medals. It still takes weeks of grinding.

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u/Naddesh 10h ago

Honestly, it seems like your nephew stopped enjoying the game because he couldn't lord over his friend that he had more stuff equipped? I would argue that being mad that somebody didn't grind x amount of hours and doesnt siffer from frustrating issues is being a "piece of shit" more than using the QOL

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u/Ellorghast 10h ago

"When you really think about it, this evil fucking kid thinking he should be proud of achieving something through his own honest effort is gatekeeping!"

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u/Naddesh 10h ago

You should have fun from playing the game not from the EA type "sense of pride and accomplishment"

I don't get people whose hapiness depends on other people not having something.

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u/FUPAMagneto 9h ago

Cheating to unlock everything is the exact opposite of playing the game, man. Are you dumb or just stupid?

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u/Naddesh 9h ago

Cheating to unlock everything is the exact opposite of playing the game

You still play the game though? Just with everything unlocked? Also, how does that affect the other kid who was bothered by it so much that he stopped playing?

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u/FUPAMagneto 9h ago

No, you don’t. You cheat and unlock everything and make shit less fun for everyone else because you’re a fucking spoiled child

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u/Ellorghast 8h ago

Honest question, how do you feel about things like sports trophies?

By your logic, playing the game should be the point in and of itself, so we might as well give one to everybody who played and not really keep track of winners or losers. Sure, you could say that's a competitive game rather than a cooperative one like Helldivers, but it's a meaningless distinction. Getting stuff by grinding in games like Helldivers is still a form of indirect competition, and competitive games are still games, so the point should be to have fun, right? Winning is a type of happiness that depends on somebody else losing, so why have it?

If we take your point to its logical conclusion, we have to assume that all competition (and, perhaps, all forms of human excellence) are valueless.

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u/Zaroaster0 10h ago

“Oh you don’t like my cheating? well you’re the real asshole here!”

the fuck?

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u/FUPAMagneto 10h ago

Found the cheater