r/pcmasterrace • u/Nightfallen__ • Aug 06 '26
Story I wonder why it won’t turn on?
I’m going to start turning on lights before plugging things in
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u/DrachenDad Aug 06 '26
Though not how you should be plugging it in, it should still work as all power holes are on a rail. All neutral holes are on another rail.
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u/honeywhereismypenis Aug 07 '26
And as we all know, a hole is a hole
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u/Steel_Bolt 9800x3D | B650E-E | 7900XTX Aug 06 '26
Actually surprised it doesn't work. You got a hot from one and neutral from the other. They're just in parallel in the power strip anyway.
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u/couchcushion7 Ryzen 7 9800x3d / RTX 4090 / 3x 48” oled Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
This is perfectly safe and legit. Its a feature not a flaw. Otherwise they woulda spaced them differently.
Read the UL listing for this device and i guarantee it mentions that this is fine.
Source: am licensed general contractor, am almost licensed electrician, am pc nerd.
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u/BoysenberryFinal9113 Aug 06 '26
You had me at PC nerd.
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u/chezzer33 9850X3D, 5070ti Aug 06 '26
Well that’s good because he didn’t have anything else after that
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u/Raphi_55 5700X3D, 32GB, RTX3080, 3.2TB NVMe Aug 06 '26
I'm sorry, but from a non US perspective, this sound insane.
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u/LutimoDancer3459 Aug 06 '26
As an EU citizen I would say its... unusual. But not insane. I dont see why you would want to support that... but not like it would be a big problem
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u/Code_Merk Aug 06 '26
My best guess, if this was truly a supported usecase, would be to allow a user to use a very chonky power supply/ wall wart type of plug while only taking up 2 plugs instead of 3, if it were to be used normally.
Guessing old AV Uints, old sewing machines, battery chargers, Brother Label Makers, old power tool stations, ect.
Just a shot in the dark though.
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u/couchcushion7 Ryzen 7 9800x3d / RTX 4090 / 3x 48” oled Aug 06 '26
This is precisely the reason. That and its just harmless. One safely connected hot and one neutral from the same circuit- is the same thing no matter how you accomplish it.
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u/Jman43195 Aug 06 '26
Big adapters might cover up only 1 prong of the adjacent socket, so if you have multiple adapters, you can rearrange them to be able to get one more plug in that would otherwise be covered up
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u/jackofslayers Aug 06 '26
The older I get the more I realize that everything American that seems insane to Europeans (and vice versa), are actually fine when you break down the differences. US and EU do lots of things different, but one is not always obviously better or worse.
...Except for profit healthcare. Fuck that shit.
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u/PMacDiggity Aug 06 '26
Imperial units are pretty dumb too, except Fahrenheit, I still like Fahrenheit.
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u/Maleficent_Memory831 Aug 06 '26
Not every outlet in the US has a ground, some aren't even polarized correctly. This is mostly due to older homes not updating their wiring. Many smaller appliances that are older won't have polarity either.
What happens if polarity is wrong is that some lamps might accidentally shock you (only at 110V in US, unlike the the higher voltage in most other countries).
We did get a shock at work with a new product that accidentally connected the hot voltage to the case due to a deisgn flaw. Sent a worker to be checked out a the hospital, a nasty letter sent to the hardware team regarding their design, and a redoing safety training for the entire company.
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u/Dapper_Woodpecker621 Aug 07 '26
It seems insane if you dont know how a power strip works, this is basically no diffrent then plugging it in “right”. Each slot is just an alternating hot and neutral. Any two slots next to each other is a hot and neutral regardless.
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u/terorasta 5950x | 7900 XTX pulse | 32 GB | 550 Tomahawk Aug 06 '26
As EU based electrician, I am now mad that this is not a feature on EU plugs too.
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u/couchcushion7 Ryzen 7 9800x3d / RTX 4090 / 3x 48” oled Aug 06 '26
Fair! From a US perspective-
Your entire world sounds better than mine.So trust i feel that emotion
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u/Narwahl_Whisperer Aug 06 '26
We have one of those "one outlet become three outlets" things. It has a hinge for easy access, baby!
Anyway, you can totally plug stuff in 'between' the official slots and I can confirm, it works just fine.
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u/taintedcake i5 6600k | 2x gigabyte g1 980ti | 16gb DDR4 | Aug 06 '26
Im more surprised it isnt working tbh. Technically they should still have both polarities
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u/TheOgGhadTurner Aug 06 '26
That’s not your pc cable. That’s not why it’s not turning on. If this is your whole power strip. I don’t know what monitor you’re using but every monitor I’ve had has a three prong like the far right cord. Assuming it is indeed a three prong you’re missing a cable plugged in here. If this 2 prong donger is for your monitor. This should work fine and shouldn’t prevent your pc from powering on.
All this too say it’s likely something is not assembled correctly in the system. Reseat all components and cables
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u/bswalsh Aug 06 '26
If it doesn't turn on, you need to replace that power strip. While not ideal, there's no reason why that shouldn't work unless if the power strip is broken and unsafe.
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u/OldManGrimm 7700X | 9070 XT | 32GB | Lian Li A3 Aug 07 '26
I work in an ER. I recently had to “fix” the docs’ PC - someone had plugged the power strip into itself.
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u/OmenQtx Aug 07 '26
That happened to me at my manufacturing job about 10 years ago. Pioneers of industry, I tell ya.
I just set the entire thing that was plugged into itself on top of the desk and left for the day.
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u/TheProphesy1086 Aug 07 '26
Licensed electrician here, this should work. If this doesn't work, you may have a separate problem.
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u/gerowen PC Master Race Aug 06 '26
I mean, it's wrong, but not so much that it shouldn't work. You've still got one prong in hot and one in neutral, and they're sized so they won't fit in the wrong holes. Seems like it would still work, unless there's some safety feature in that power bar that is causing issues, because most of the cheap ones I've taken apart were literally just two big metal strips soldered to the incoming wires that just run the length of the bar and have little stamped or cut out spots for the prongs to interface when you plug something in.
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u/Wild-Thing Aug 06 '26
The stuff people will do for fake Internet points...
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u/BilliamClimptonIII Aug 06 '26
Thank you. There's no way this is real. If it is, someone went out of their way to bend the contacts in a way they'd straddle both outlets
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u/SquashSquigglyShrimp Aug 06 '26
As described in some other comments, this is not only real, but a valid use case and supported design for some outlets to allow flexibility (think of an awkwardly sized DC adapter that can now take only 2 spots instead of blocking 3.
It is electrically identical to plugging in the "normal" way.
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u/JonathanSCE Aug 07 '26
Here is a Japaneses outlet that is specifically designed to be plugged into the half space. They even call it an 8.5 outlet power strip. Thought it is non-polarized. https://www.amazon.co.jp/dp/B082XXN1F6

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u/Particular_Client833 Aug 07 '26
It is very likely a surge protector. It SHOULD work because the live and neutral are just wired differently, like if you turned the cable. So there is some form of protection that stops it from working.
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u/EJintheCloud Aug 06 '26
They look like they're surprised you poked their eyes out
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u/flapjackboy Ryzen 7 2700X|16GB Corsair Vengeance RGB 3200|RX 580 8GB Aug 06 '26
US electrical sockets always look perpetually shocked.
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u/RBeck Steam ID Here Aug 06 '26
The only way this doesn't "work" is if those are Tamper Resistant outlets, where the hot has a door that doesn't open until the neutral opens it, but if that's the case he forced it anyway.
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u/Evening_Scale_5755 Aug 06 '26
Im going out on a limb and saying this post is karma farm. This would have still worked so we must imagine it didn't even try to turn it on.
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u/Malo1301 Arch Linux | RTX 3060 | Ryzen 7 5000 Series | 16 GB DDR4 Aug 07 '26
American power outlets are stupid, why can you even do that
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u/Non-Euclidian-Turtle Aug 07 '26
Yeah this will still work for most power strips. The outlets are all connected inside with bus bars. Makes no difference which slot as long as polarity is correct.
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u/Moist-Dentist8253 PC Master Race Aug 07 '26
Technically this should work perfectly fine. It's connected to live and neutral, so it's a proper woring circuit as all the outlets are daisy chained.
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u/NaCl_Sailor Ryzen 9 5950X, RTX 4090 Aug 06 '26
being German it is literally insane to me that this is even possible.
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u/busternut420 Aug 06 '26
So stop being German then, tf?
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u/futureformerteacher Aug 06 '26
Would you prefer he be Austrian, pretending to be German?
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u/bob69joe Aug 06 '26
This is designed to work like this. It should function as expected but isn’t working for OP for some reason.
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u/Lion_Knight Aug 06 '26
Not only is it possible It should be functional if you notice everyone is confused as to why it doesn't work.
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u/Maleficent_Memory831 Aug 06 '26
Why not possible, technically? The only snag here are new appliances that still only have 2 power pins with no ground, which isn't legal in some countries.
Most of the power adapters I have only have 2 pins, both unpolarized, no ground pin. Certified for US and Canada. The reasoning is that none of the hot power gets to the outside plastic case, it's electrically isolated from the mains, and the wires coming out are greatly reduced in voltage. However you can't really rely upon which low voltage wire is actually a common ground should multiple power adapters indirectly connect to each other (ie, power adapter to a board plus a power adapter to a JTAG debugger). Humans won't get shocked but you could blow out some sensitive parts if the board circuits don't have protection.
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u/revalucion Aug 07 '26
Actually, that should work if the plug is not polarized with a bigger prong for the neutral then the hot wire. Underneath that plastic is just a copper or aluminum buss bar that extends the same circuit to all of the outlets.
Still going to lose a few minutes of sleep over it...
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u/Konrow AMD 5900X, RX 7900 XT Aug 06 '26
If real, it should work, no? Unless there's some safety feature they included when they realized how dumb their design was
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u/WhoSc3w3dDaP00ch Aug 06 '26
Not sure if it's worse, but I had someone plug his power strip into itself, and then get annoyed at IT that this didn't work...
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u/IntegrityMustReign Aug 07 '26
As much as I wish I could afford a good rig and start gaming again, I want to say as a licensed electrician, this sub's collective knowledge of theory and electrical devices is impressive.
You guys care about your PCs and it shows.
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u/unclefunkstar Aug 07 '26
Firstly, what an idiot.
Secondly, whoever designed that strip is an even bigger idiot.
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u/jtnoble Ryzen 5600X | RTX 3080Ti Aug 07 '26
Tbf I've had a Nintendo switch dock plugged in like this for two years and it's been fine. This should normally work unless there's some extra weird protections going on.
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u/Special_Bender Aug 07 '26
I wonder why didn't it catch fire?
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u/storm4chaser Aug 08 '26
It should work though, and no fancy smoke... hot is hot and neutral is neutral
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u/DigitalDruid01110110 Aug 06 '26
It should work. They are made this way on purpose “It’s a feature, not a bug”.
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u/Semanticss Aug 06 '26
You might need to flip it around, but that straddling should actually work fine.
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u/Steel_Bolt 9800x3D | B650E-E | 7900XTX Aug 06 '26
May not fit flipped depending on the plug. A lot of plugs are polarized for safety.
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u/trickman01 M2 Mac Mini Aug 06 '26
If they are polarized than the neutral prong would be wider and only fit in the neutral side either way.
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u/Alternative-World-33 Aug 06 '26 edited Aug 06 '26
Test it with a multimeter and see if you get 120v
Edit: I just tested one like that and got 120v. It should work.
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u/scotte416 i5-13400 - 5060ti16 Aug 06 '26
I'm actually surprised it didn't work, you're hitting a neutral and a positive it's a pretty simple circuit lol
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u/BastetFurry PC Master Race | Geekom A8 running Arch Aug 06 '26
Couldn't have happened with Schuko. 😁
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u/Rulanik Aug 07 '26
Not that it's safe but that would work. One prong is positive, one is negative.
This feels like a poorly designed power strip though, they shouldn't be spaced perfectly for that to be able to happen by accident imo...
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u/The-Hank-Scorpio Aug 07 '26
THe fact this is possible is a massive design flaw.
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u/kritter4life Aug 06 '26
No this should work just fine. Hot rail neutral rail. Doesn’t matter which two holes. You could split the wires and put at opposite ends and it would still work. As long as one is big hole little hole.
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u/SquashSquigglyShrimp Aug 06 '26
Why do you think that? This is no more dangerous than plugging it in normally and is actually a valid way of using it if it was designed this way. They're all hooked up to the same bus
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u/StandardNerd92 Aug 06 '26
I'm glad I live in the UK, where we have non-terrifying plugs
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u/iothomas Aug 06 '26
I mean it could theoretically work if one is phase and the other is neutral...if both are the same the voltage difference would be zero (although the conductor are live)
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u/trickman01 M2 Mac Mini Aug 06 '26
Every outlet should be wired hot on the short pin and neutral on the long pin. It's not theoretical, it's just the way it works.
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u/iothomas Aug 06 '26
I don't know what is a short and long pin, I am European we don't have these sockets/plugs here. All plug pins are equally long here
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u/trickman01 M2 Mac Mini Aug 06 '26
Maybe I should have said wide and narrow.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC_power_plugs_and_sockets#NEMA_1-15_ungrounded_(Type_A)
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u/SmoogzZ 4070/32gb DDR4/i7-13700k Aug 06 '26
Learned something new from this thread, thanks nerds.
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u/wstsidhome Aug 06 '26
Wow…I haven’t seen that before. That’s almost impressive, if it wouldn’t have been so scary (to me, seeing what was done in the dark). At least the prongs are still technically in a hot and neutral in a neutral
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u/TheMundar Cable management is a sin Aug 07 '26
None of my computers have ever had a 2 prong cable, my powerstrip supplies power to two prongged cables plugged in like that.
idk wtf is going on but it makes no sense to me
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u/aevyian Ryzen 5800XT 32GB DDR4 6700XT Aug 07 '26
First thing I saw was two little faces, each with one eye getting poked out and they are saying “Oooouch!” with their tiny mouths :(
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u/Opposite-Donut-9239 AMD A8-3870, 16GB DDR3, GTX 570 Aug 07 '26
bro that would work bro, if it does not, run as fast as possible
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u/Omega_art Aug 07 '26
I hate that they build outlets like this. I even have one with sd slots that have the same spacing as a standard outlet. That should be banned.
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u/Inevitable_Spite5510 Intel Core i5 13450HX; 16 GB DDR5; 512 GB NVMe; NVIDIA RTX 4050 Aug 07 '26
r/electroboom material
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u/pandaSmore i5 6600k|GTX 980 Ti|16GB DDR4 Aug 07 '26
It's connected to a hot and neutral and electronic power supplies typically don't have a polarized prong.
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u/Litego Aug 07 '26
Well, I don't really see a problem here. It'll work just fine and it's not any less safe than doing it the proper way. You lose an outlet, so I don't see why you would do this.
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u/cleanshotVR Aug 07 '26
Me too. That should work. If not, either your multiple socket really does stupid stuff or you have other issues with you electrical.
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u/Negitive545 I7-9700K | RTX 4070 | 80GB RAM | 3 TB SSD Aug 07 '26
It's AC, so shouldn't this still work?
It's a bad idea, yes, but to my admittedly limited knowledge of our electrical system, that should still function?
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u/assidiou Aug 06 '26
Technically this should still work