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u/jphillips8648 1d ago edited 1d ago
House chiropractor sounds like a scammer who's going to permanently damage your home.
These are foundation specialists.
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u/-SaC 1d ago
"Sorry, I broke your house's neck. A ghost taught me to do this, you know!"
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u/WetEmotions 18h ago
Get it right. A ghost told someone else how to do it and I just read their journals.
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u/petervaz 1d ago
Was about to say that, those guys actually do something so that comparison is unfair.
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u/Substantial_Sea7327 1d ago
is there any advice from foundation specialists regarding prevention and home inspections
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u/zacknr 23h ago
I was a foreman for 5 years on these type of projects where we used Helical Piers and Push Piers to lift foundations of homes. Now I'm a Design Specialist/ Project Manager for these projects. I would recommend #1 making sure your gutters aren't leaking or discharging near your foundation. You also want your home to not be downhill, but flat or uphill because water is your worst enemy. French drains are not a permanent fix, but can help if you are downhill. If you think your home has issues, look for cracks in your foundation that go through the footing, not just the stem wall. Check if doors and windows close properly. Don't check for squareness of door frames, window frames, garage door frames on old homes because they were never built square to begin with most likely. Also check for cracks in your drywall, which may be a post/ footing or slab depending on the home issue not the foundation.
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u/trunksfreak 1d ago
It's too bad this costs an arm and a leg, otherwise I'd do it to my home.
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u/dmcnaughton1 23h ago
Had to have this done to the back of my house in 2023, cost us around $9k for four helical piles and removed about 2/3 of the overall deflection if I recall. Didn't remove more than that to avoid putting undue strain on the house. It's costly, but not as costly as you might think.
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u/PIPBOY-2000 19h ago
Sometimes the cost skyrockets beyond that if the pipes are potentially damaged and need to be addressed
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u/Unhappy-Professor-88 1d ago
Have you considered using a folded beer mat?
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u/Devincc 1d ago
Finance it. Debt sucks but losing your entire home sucks more and this could cost you a lot more than the fix would
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u/rhudejo 1d ago
You might not need such fancy tech. If your house hasn't moved much, you could just do concrete injection under it (where I like it's around 250€/meter and it likely stops any further movement, so you can fix cracks for good.
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u/trunksfreak 1d ago
So our house is 150 years old and it's settled in the middle. It hasn't moved any amount since we moved into it 6 years ago. I think we need to jack it up. But the thing is, while we had money to get the house in 2020, we haven't had a big increase in income. In fact considering what has happened over the last few years we have significantly lost income. It's been harder to save money and actually fix things around the house.
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u/shanghaishitter 1d ago
I used to do this type of work. The prep for this can take weeks and then it's all reset and moved in a couple hours. We used to do offce buildings and apartment complexes. Sometimes houses but not usually.
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u/SeedFoundation 1d ago
I saw a bunch of contractors do this too, except in reverse.
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u/Bob-Bhlabla-esq 1d ago
Curious, what kind of prices are the owners looking at?
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u/run66 1d ago
$30k for 6 piers installed to lift a corner of my house. my house is 3700 sq ft. single story. this was 8 years ago in Southern California.
these are helical piers. had an irrigation line break outside my home and saturated the clay heavy soil around one corner of my home. months later, after the clay dried, it left a void and that corner of my house dropped about 2 inches. they installed 6, (maybe 8) helical piers. fascinating process. first they map your house and identify the section that needs to be lifted. then bigger minds map out the location of the piers and the amount to lift. some trenching, then they drill the piers into the ground. they drill down until the amount of resistance that has been determined by the aforementioned big brains is reached. kind of like a big torque wrench, if that helps. that tells them they've embedded in bedrock or sufficient load bearing soil. next, they used hand jacks. one per pier, and one guy hanging out a window yelling instructions. I stood in the same room as him and felt the house lift. pretty cool. it's an orchestrated set of commands to lift the house correctly. the corner(s) furthest from where the slab broke have to come up more than the sections closer to the where the foundation broke. this is all determined from the mapping they did in step 1. then everything is secured and locked in. final step was to come into the house and drill a series of holes through the foundation. it's mapped out so when they start pumping the high density foam into one hole and it starts coming out the furthest hole, they know the void is filled. they had to do this in two rooms in my house. thankfully both rooms were carpeted and not tile or hardwood.
fixing the drywall and cracks inside and out would have been cheaper. the problem is that you can absolutely feel a 2inch drop across the width of a bedroom, and we didn't like that feeling.
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u/disarm2k10 1d ago
And they all're made out of ticitac and they all look just the same.
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u/LaminatedAirplane 1d ago
Nancy Botwin was my high school dream crush lol then Weeds turned to shit
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u/MeatCatRazzmatazz 1d ago
Yeah, it was good through season 3. Then 4 jumped the shark and they kept trying to find bigger sharks to jump every season after that
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u/stump2003 1d ago
Wow, I forgot this show even existed. It was fun for a bit. Don’t even know what happened…
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u/LaminatedAirplane 1d ago
You forgot about it because midway through, the show stopped making sense and went off the rails lol
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u/annieisawesome 1d ago
Yeah but these days, it would be an improvement and frankly wild variety if there was a green one and a pink one and a yellow one and a blue one
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u/pellikaniprasad 1d ago
The guy bought it from a company which sold it but was not fixing the damage, saw the original video somewhere it did get fixed.
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u/portageandmain 1d ago
I mean, my house could definitely use it, but
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u/Dakito 1d ago
My old house had to have 96' piers put in. Was stupid expensive.... Mainly happened because one of the owners over the years decided to destroy the foundation and put a basement exit door in.
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u/zachotule 1d ago
Obligatory note that chiropractors are not real doctors and you should never go to one. Their practice is based on their founder believing that ghosts taught him how to do it, and there is no actual science to it beyond "cracking your back feels good." Chiropractors are dangerous and every time you go to one you're at risk of receiving spinal damage from a glorified massage.
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u/Wisbonsin 1d ago
Hubs ended up with a severe disc herniation after a chiropractor did an “adjustment” without any imagery done first. Drop foot within 36 hours of his appointment and lost almost all leg function. Emergency laminectomy to repair and spent months learning how to walk again. Required fusion 4 months later. That was how we spent our first year of marriage. FUCK chiropractors.
I take the time to tell his story on every thread like this to help anyone avoid anything similar.
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u/purdueAces 1d ago
Adding: Every person I've ever known that went to a chiropractor, including my mother, my best friend, and my neighbor ... all ended up with WORSE back problems as a result of chiropractor treatment. Never go to one. Ever.
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u/avanross 1d ago
And as it gets worse they respond by going back more often.
And repeat.
Theyre so predatory and designed specifically to manipulate gullible people who lack scientific literacy
These are the exact people that governments are supposed to be protecting their vulnerable citizens from
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u/Madshibs 1d ago
Fixed my back/ribs in one visit when nothing else was working. Months of painful breathing, barely sleeping, stiffness, pills, sleep-aids, physio, stretching, massage, etc.
I don’t know what to say. I was a skeptic (and still am for everything else they say they can do), but I never had to go back.
I know everyone wants to shit on them, and maybe rightly so, but that dude made my life better in one appointment and I don’t know what else I can say about it.
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u/Enlightened_Gardener 23h ago
Yes, I have exactly the same experience. I was in absolute agony – couldn’t stand up, sit down, lie down – it was awful. A chiropractor fixed it in five minutes. I’d been going to doctors, and physiotherapists for weeks, literally weeping in pain. I was on some really good painkillers, but none of them could fix the actual problem.
I’m in Australia though, and Chiropractic practice here is much more strongly and rigorously regulated than in America. It’s a minimum five year degree here, and they’re about to make seven years the standard. It’s more like physiotherapy than what I suspect Americans think chiropractors are like.
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u/Madshibs 1d ago
Dude, I am a VERY skeptical person, but my ex dragged me to a chiropractor to fix a fucked up issue in my back/ribcage that was making it hard to breathe and it worked.
At first I was like “fuck that fake-ass stuff”, but I was desperate after months of physio, stretching, massage, pain pills and waking up every night to pop Robax just to get a a few hours of sleep, so I gave in to her request.
Well, this big dude almost twisted me in half but I swear to god he fixed me in one visit. My girl was laughing at me because I couldn’t get the smile off my face afterward. I never had to go back. One and done.
I know they’re like 90% BS, but I simply cannot abide by you people who are like “At best, it doesn’t work, at worst, it makes it worse or you die”.
Sure, maybe it’s not a good gamble, but it for sure can work, in MY experience.
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u/Hexamancer 1d ago
/u/Saelethil covered why this is here.
Some chiropractors are purists, only doing the full woo-woo shit, if it wasn't what a magnet healer learnt from a ghost, they don't want to hear about it.
But others, they're basically just doing 99% physical therapy. You know, real medicine. Stuff that actually works. But this way, they don't have to actually learn how to do it properly and pay and do all the placements and stuff, they can just watch some YouTube videos and just wing it. The vibe coders of the physiotherapy world.
There's a whole bunch of quacks in between too and chiropractors also like to sneak in other MAHA BS that would get RFK's wet jeans all tight.
So... Just go to a physical therapist. Why roll the dice?
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u/Richard_Cromwell 22h ago
I hear you, and agree with you, but the commenter you replied to stated that they did go to physio for months with no a improvement.
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u/Hexamancer 20h ago
If your car isn't working and you take it to a mechanic over and over again and he can't fix it, then you take it to a plumber, he kicks it, a wrench falls out and your car works, is the lesson "don't take your cars to mechanics, take it to a plumber." or "Don't take your car to THAT mechanic for a problem even a plumber could fix."
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u/JarblesWestlington 15h ago
If you want a real answer: because a lot of physical therapists are incredibly bad. They know a few stretches and exercises that they will put every patient through while booking multiple patients at a time. On top of that, most physical therapists are exercise-focused, where some physical problems truly require a specialist to focus on hands on work.
The term “chiropractor” is an umbrella term for someone who heals through massage adjacent techniques and not necessarily “traditional” methods. There ARE good chiropractors out there, and they’ve done 1000% more good for my specific issues than the multitude of physical therapists I’ve tried.
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u/AGsec 11h ago
Friend of mine is a PT, now works in admin, but said that so much of the industry is a cash grab and meat grinder for new, optimistic grads. The for profit centers pay really well and offer good bonuses for moving patients through the pipeline.
He took a pay cut to work for a non-profit hospital but he feels like he's an actual medical practitioner.
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u/SaskRail 19h ago
Working as blue collar iv done my back in a few times. Cant stand straight after a bad lift or slip on Ice (Canada). Iv been stuck bent over and off work for a couple days before and its back to normal almost instantly after the chiro. Other times im getting sharp pain for a couple weeks if I dont go and again 15 minutes after chiro ita gone. Doctors just five pain meds and relaxers which do little to nothing.
Im not sure how guys in my industry would survive without it. Has gotten plenty of guys back on our feet pretty quickly.
Also get X rays to see how the back look and track its progress or deterioration.
I think alot that push against it sit at a desk all day and get knots. So yeah they need to go to a massage therapist not chiro.
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u/im4lonerdottie4rebel 1d ago
Sameeee I was in a car accident and I was having bad lower back pain. The chiropractor took X-rays and was like did you know you have scoliosis? insert shocked Pikachu face. But seriously that pissed me off bc for years I would tell my doctor that my back shape felt weird like half was wonky and he had the NERVE to write that I was being paranoid on my chart! Anyway the chiropractor put me down and did some pops and twists and I felt so good after. I went back a couple more times bc I wanted that pop feeling again but that was years ago.
I don't doubt that a lot are full of crap and dangerous but this guy did me solid
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u/Ohmec 22h ago
Any chiro with access to an x-ray machine is already world's above what we're discussing here
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u/SaskRail 19h ago
Is there a large difference between American/Canada Chiro? None of these comments make sense as a Canadain. Its heavily regulated here, all have option to send for X rays reviewed by both tech/chirco. Communicate with family doctors when they find things out of scope. Its not uncommon that people that come to chiro get an X ray for their back and cancer gets flagged. Alot of physio/chiro here are run out of the same clinic.
An if they do crazy shit they get their license pulled.
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u/Humble-Parsnip-484 18h ago
I think Americans just have poor man's budget Chiro with some crackhead who has a pop at it. No wonder they think it's fake news
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u/StumbleOn 1d ago
Yep.
The sadly true fact is that there are very few actual treatments for back problems. All we really got is "strengthen your back muscles"
The rest? Usually do nothing. Backs are not responsive to virtually all treatments. Exceptions for some conditions, obviously, but not the ones like nearly everyone faces as they age.
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u/Malisient 1d ago
I've had great results from seeing a licensed massage therapist. My pain levels are much lower and I'm able to exercise and do daily tasks with a massively reduced pain level during and after. It's helped my recovery and allowed me to start doing the exercise I need to strengthen my back and neck. it's also reduced my constant migraines, both in severity and length.
Is it expensive? Absolutely. It's also the only thing I've found that has helped me so much.
I would never go to a chiropractor, though. If I want to gamble away my health and future, I have better odds in Vegas.
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u/swany5 1d ago
I used to be the person who said this. My Mom started going to a chiropractor once a week and then suddenly she needed to go 3 times a week - I said, "that's not progress!" And I still believe that.
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I ended up having some issues and my regular Dr referred to me a Physical Therapist who was nothing short of a miracle worker. After he was done doing what needed to be done (which is to say, what insurance would pay for) HE suggested that I should see a Chiropractor to continue the progress, I was like, you can't be serious - but he stressed that I neded one which also did therapeutic massage and stretching - like physical therapy. My issues largely stem from muscle tightness. Anyway, I begrudgingly went and I have to say, massage coupled with the occasional cracking (adjustment) and I never felt better in my life. I do think in my case it was the massage & stretching that really did the work but my mind was somewhat changed on chiropractors in general. I'm sure there's some that are little more than witch doctors who think adjustments fix everything but mine actually worked on identifying root causes and fixing those even if the fix wasn't cracking.
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u/another_mouse 1d ago edited 1d ago
You aren’t defending chiropractors here you’re defending PT. The type of chiropractors you’re describing is just cheaper PT-lite. Muscle weakness and tightness is your problem so massage and exercise can fix it. Adjustments themselves can’t fix anything and provide temporary relief if anything.
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u/lythy2016 1d ago
My dad went to one for years and swore it was making his back better, but it never seemed to be making it that much better that he could actually stop going.
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u/xrelaht 1d ago
I used to teach at the satellite location of a large martial arts school. The other instructor there kept getting put out for a week or more at a time by a back injury. Every time, he went to the chiropractor. After a year of this, I finally convinced him to go to a PT instead. That was the last time I had to sub for him because of back issues.
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u/Saelethil 1d ago
I always tell people that a chiropractor is at best an unlicensed physical therapist, and at worst a person who believes that magic can heal you by manipulating some very delicate bones and could leave you crippled or dead in 1 bad move.
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u/kmoneyrecords 1d ago edited 1d ago
And as far as what TO do, go to a licensed masseuse or physical therapist. They’ll do a couple of things that overlap with chiropractics that DO work, but with none of the cracking bs that will give you a thpinal.
And fixing muscle tone, knots, and fascia is what will really put your joints in the right position for long term relief.
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u/FullMoonTwist 1d ago
I think a big reason why chiropractors are so popular in the US is how expensive the real options are.
A lot of PT offices won't even look at you unless you get a referral from a general practitioner, and massage is a minimum of $1/min and for bad problems, generally takes 1-2 weekly sessions for a solid chunk of time.
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u/BringerOfBricks 1d ago
That’s really the crux of the issue for PT.
PCPs often don’t want to sign off on a PT plan until they see the patient themselves creating a bureaucratic mess and having to pay 2x copay + medical exam fees for both.
Until that’s removed, access to PT will be limited and people will gravitate towards chiropractors.
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u/papaprof 1d ago
Spoke to an IT guy who went to a chiropractor with neck issues. Chiropractor "adjusted" him or whatever other stupid term they use. Guy went home after and started to feel unwell. Went to ER the next day and they discovered that the chiropractor had severed a major blood vessel in his neck. He was slowly bleeding out... Don't go to a chiropractor!
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u/WhatveIdone2dsrvthis 1d ago
Sadly I've seen it a few times. I've also seen several pneumothoraxes (puncture lung) from when they did acupuncture in the "neck" region (trapezius area).
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u/this_is_bs 1d ago
There's data that suggests some people may be at an increased risk of stroke after seeing one.
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u/lostbutnotgone 1d ago
Not JUST spinal damage: they're very well known for causing arterial dissections in the neck which can lead to strokes in otherwise young, healthy individuals. I had a spontaneous internal carotid dissection and every single doctor and nurse's first question was "have you seen a chiropractor recently?"
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u/Utaneus 1d ago
I'm a physician and in less than 10 years of practice I have seen several arterial dissections caused by a chiropractor in otherwise young and healthy patients.
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u/Melodic-Basshole 1d ago
I went to one at the recommendation of a colleague who said she only does stretches and not the cracking bullshit. I was recently postpartum and insisted she not touch my neck because I was not having that risk. First fucking thing she did was grab my head and crack that shit. I'll never go back.
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u/trace501 1d ago
Which you’d think would be obvious as doctors don’t want you to come back every week for your whole life
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u/ZePepsico 9h ago
Why do we tolerate them when they should all be in jail?
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u/So6oring 9h ago
Cause the "smarter" brother in Two and a Half Men was a chiropractor? I know that added validity to the profession for me when I was a kid and didn't know better
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u/KG354 1d ago
Licensed chiropractor is an oxymoron, like jumbo shrimp or Great Britain
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u/Un__Real 1d ago
My former BIL is a chiropractor. He is also a fucking scam artist. So I can confirm.
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u/-deepseababy- 10h ago
When I was 24 I was told to go to a chiropractor by my primary doctor because I threw my lower back out. After that chiro appointment I lost complete feeling in my left leg because my L5-S1 disc popped and the core poured out onto my spinal cord. I'm 34 now and 3 spinal surgeries later have 2 artificial discs and have been told to be prepared for many more. I still can't feel a portion of my left leg and have many other issues with it.
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u/bcrosby51 1d ago
What's the best alternative when you have back or neck issues?
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u/Kyle___Ren 1d ago
Us PTs can do all the same manipulations (they call them adjustments) that chiros can do HOWEVER we understand when it is appropriate and when it is not. We will also follow up with how to back those benefits up with therapy so that it’s not a ‘come back to me weekly’. We hope to provide you with enough info and education that you won’t need us down the road
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u/Delicious-Yak-1095 1d ago
Might just need to see a physiotherapist, they have helped my back issues by identifying the strain and weakness in my muscles that have caused them, educating me on how to exercise and stretch to avoid them.
Honestly they go out of their way to fix it so you don’t come back, unlike a chiro who wants you to have frequent visits and doesn’t even fix the problem.
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u/zachotule 1d ago
Talking to a real doctor and getting a referral to a physical therapist or another actual medical specialist depending on what's going on with you. In some cases proper stretching and exercise, improved sleep and sleep position, improving the ergonomics of how you work and do other physical activities in your life, addressing other health issues, etc, may help and may be part of what a medical professional will advise. It really depends! But going to a chiropractor does not do anything positive other than maybe making you feel good in the short term because cracking your back feels good.
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u/Enough_Supermarket_7 1d ago
What people look for when they want a chiropractor, is a physiotherapist (i hope i spelled that right)
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u/Uncommonality 1d ago
That's an insult to massages. A real massage will make you bendy like a pool noodle. I can highly recommend them.
You need a certified masseuse with a real practice and customer reviews, so no back alley massages. But if you ever find one like that it's amazing.
Chiropractors will genuinely just fuck up your joints. Massages will cause muscles that have been tensed up for 10 years to relax
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u/Plz_DM_Me_Small_Tits 1d ago
I'll never understand why some insurance companies force you to go to them when you get injured in an accident
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u/RavishingRedRN 10h ago
As a former ER nurse for 6 years, I second this!
I firsthand took care of a patient who almost died (internal bleeding) from a floating rib being jammed into his spleen….by a chiropractor.
Absolutely not. No chiropractors ever.
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u/selfcenorship 1d ago
Someone posted this to structural engineering and a comment pointed out that this is a good comparison because what they are doing by itself is a short term cosmetic thing to the building that can make things much worse long term if not accompanied by other things as well
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u/mungobungo2221 1d ago
Too many times do we see people who just need some PT but they just go to the chiropractors.
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u/Codaya-The-Slaya 1d ago
Went to a chiropractor for lower back issues, he cracked my neck one time. It was extremely painful. After that one time I continue to get chronic migraines from occipital nerve irritation.
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u/Zemom1971 1d ago
What do you mean? They offered me a lifetime treatment that could potentially heal and cure future cancer and all. It was just a down payment of a couple 100$ and more for the rest of my life. The way that they said it, it was that we are all born this way and that we all required this treatments if we want to have a better life.
Also, that won't cure my back pain. Well, it will but only if I pay for the rest of my life.
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u/3atTh3R1ch79 1d ago
That'll be 50k, cash only.
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u/BrooklynLivesMatter 1d ago
If my house was falling onto its side I would gladly pay 50k to continue having a house
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u/MrSneller 1d ago
We had a corner of our house raised by over three inches in 2022 and it was $15k. It was no small feat with 6 support point on the foundation plus some in the crawl. It was very impressive to watch.
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u/jhguitarfreak 1d ago
Not really comparable. See what they're doing to the house is actually fixing it instead of charging you for a coin flip between paralyzing you or popping a joint/knuckle that you could have done yourself.
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u/Genetics 1d ago
My friend's wife went to have her neck and upper back looked at by a chiropractor. He adjusted her and she had a stroke / seizure right on the table. She was paralyzed on the right side of her body for around 10 months. Face sagging, had to walk with a cane. She's better now, thankfully.
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u/Pittsbirds 1d ago
Are there architects or house experts who can say if what's happening here is a good, long term fix? I feel like every time I see videos of this genre there's someone at least claiming proficiency in the field saying "this will last 6 months then explode" or something lol
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u/Ian_Patrick_Freely 1d ago
I'm a structural engineering consultant who specializes in settlement abatement and repair. This is a good long term fix.
From what I can see in the video, the portion of the house that has settled is an addition on a surprisingly shallow foundation (note the vertical joint in the masonry and the soil only covering a few inches of the concrete down). I'm guessing it was not an engineered addition. In the opening seconds, you can see the shiny metal cylinder of a hydraulic ram that is pushing lengths of pipe into the ground. These pipes will now support the foundation instead of the weak top layer of soil.
Depending on the required loads and the thickness of the weak soil layers, these pipes could extend as little as 10 feet or as much as 50 or 60 feet into the ground. Contractors will generally issue a 25 year warranty with this kind of repair.
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u/Gillilnomics 23h ago
Thanks for your time and concise info
This is something my ex will have to do with the house eventually and I want to make sure my daughter doesn’t wake up in a sink hole.
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u/Ian_Patrick_Freely 22h ago
To be clear, a sinkhole situation is entirely different than general site settlement. Please feel free to PM me with any specific questions you may have.
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u/Pretend_Berry8070 1d ago
An architect wouldn’t know. You would want an engineer
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u/Pittsbirds 1d ago
Just one of many reasons I pursued a career that has no stakes, I don't know jack
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u/TheNewYellowZealot 10h ago
The people who perform this work are specifically foundational repair experts, who are at the instruction of one or more structural and soil engineers who determine the proper repairs and new piering for homes.
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u/Netflixandmeal 1d ago
This is typically the best long term solution. The subgrade is poor here and piers get down to solid ground and are then attached to the foundation of the home.
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u/StevenMaff 1d ago
a chiropractor doesn’t do shit
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u/Public-Platypus2995 1d ago
Well, technically they make little cracky noises and tell you to come back week after week for more cracky noises until the problem fixes itself.
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u/skraptastic 1d ago
My chiro talks to me for about 45 seconds then sends me to see the in house massage therapist.
I really think the chiro part is just a front to get insurance to pay for weekly massage, and I'm down for it.
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u/velociraptorcatcher 1d ago
right? this is like whatever the opposite of a chiropractor is. an orthopedist is more like it
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u/Caffeinated_Ape_42 1d ago
It's called a Schuhmann Special. He did it in Venice in 1964 and once more in Istanbul during 1973. Some Americans did it in Amsterdam too, but they didnt steal anything. It remains a mystery to this day.
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u/TheOffKn1ght 1d ago
As someone who lives in a 100 year old house, how does one get this service done?
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u/phranks_phluids 1d ago edited 1d ago
My mom had a huge crack in ber brick from the seconfd story down on a load bearing exterior wall and some interior damage from the sag.
She contacted an structural engineer and he had some guys he trusted to do this work he suggested. She quoted it a few ways and I think it was like $60k all in including fixing all the cracked drywall. They actually ended up removing and reusing some of the bricks from the facade.
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u/TheOffKn1ght 1d ago
That’s a steep price but about what I’d expect. Do you know if there is any sort of service for lifting a house up and redoing the concrete foundation and also building out/expanding a basement? I have a crack dream of doing this along with also replacing all support boards and such.
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u/Comedic-Scientist 1d ago
It’s stupid expensive and I think, not worth it, if you have an old house on a hill like I do.
Our 112 year old house was quoted at $100k to fix the foundation. Granted my wife inherited it, so we’re either going to sell this place at a discount or tear down, rebuild the whole lot.
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u/shakygator 1d ago
They come measure your foundation to see if it's level with this machine they set in the center of the house then measure out to each corner to see if the elevation is the same. Then they use this data to formulate a plan to dig out the foundation and add the piers you see here lifting the house up in the low spots. They drive them into the ground like stilts so they support the house instead of the eroding/settling soil.
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u/ReasonablyConfused 1d ago
My dad was a chiropractor, and I find it morbidly funny that he died of an arterial dissection in his neck while he was giving a patient an adjustment.
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u/kilobitch 1d ago
Where’s the part where they violently twist the head of the house, leaving it paralyzed?
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u/jaime_riri 1d ago
How much does something like this cost? I think I need it.
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u/motorcyclesnracecars 1d ago
We got a quote to lift the corner of our home, $64k. Two story with a basement, Atlanta.
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u/SnoopySuited 1d ago
Cost my clients $150,000 to level their foundation in the Bay Area.
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u/Whatwhenwherehi 1d ago
Depends. 4k to 30k.
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u/jaime_riri 1d ago
oy vey. that's quite a spread
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u/Whatwhenwherehi 1d ago
Depends on house, type of foundation and how many piers or points you need fixed.
Pier and beam is far cheaper while slab can get pricey.
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u/niagara-nature 14h ago
Ugh I feel like I owe money just for watching this.
I’ve seen these services many times and have always wondered how astronomically expensive they might be.
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u/Quiverjones 1d ago
Those little electric levels are something else. We had our house leveled after an earthquake and it was loads quicker than my measurements using a laser and tape.
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u/Quick_Philosophy1426 23h ago
fucking hate this website, 80% of the comments here aren't actually talking about the post but desperately climbing over each other to go "uhm actually chiropractors are bad!!!" even though 400 other people have already posted more or less the exact same comment
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u/beerforbears 23h ago
The horror of Reddit is it's the only place left on the internet to get human created answers or opinions but the humans who are here are some of the most embarrassingly unaware, self satisfied, 'when does the narwhal bacon' cringe lords on the planet.
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u/Queasy_Salamander890 23h ago
It’s hilarious reddit has like several trigger subjects people just go apeshit for like sleeper cell agents activating.
Chiropractor is one.
Sex workers.. tipping culture.. or like random shit line outdoor cats, having a nice green lawn, fucking STACKING ROCKS somehow???7
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u/karlgeezer 23h ago
Honestly I’m convinced that the people making the comments on these are now being replaced by bots as well.
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u/Samson_J_Rivers 1d ago
As long as your foundation hasn't broken up, yeah it can be that easy. Ground errosion under your house makes the building flex and crack/break. This isn't the end of it though. You need to still make extensive interior/exterior repairs and put in a new more heavily compacted media under the house to prevent the exact same failure from occuring later.
Gutters are so important people don't treat them like they are. Water will do it's best to wash your entire house away if you don't stop it.
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u/fearlessbyfp 1d ago
It's fascinating to me that so many people focus in on gutters and soil washing away. It completely depends on the types of soils under your foundation. Silts and sands can wash away and cause cracking of the foundation and brittle facades. Lifting the foundation can be a temporary fix but as you mentioned, the erosion will likely continue and cause more issues if the root of the issue isn't addressed.
Where I'm from, a far bigger issue is shrink and swell of expansive soils and differential settlement across the foundation - the edges of the foundation lift up due to expansive clays swelling and the interior of the foundation remaining the same due to water being unable to penetrate evenly across the slab, or vice versa with shrink of soils during drought. If the original foundation wasn't designed to accommodate this, you're going to see cracks like this. If you go and repair it like this during the dry season for example, during the wet season the edges may swell and cause more issues. If you repair it during the wet season, it can settle if the repair is resting on shallow soils instead of deep foundations. There are things you can do to repair it, but the goal is more to mitigate issues once you already have them: use more flexible materials instead of brick or drywall, try to keep the area around the foundation a similar water content year-round (impossible in drought/flood conditions), and understand that the vast majority of these issues are cosmetic and not structural.
Ideally the foundation is designed to withstand this in the first place, but few people think about or care to spend extra money on their foundation.
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u/Uncommonality 1d ago
This is not easy my man
You're standing in the basement of an entire building with a couple of bottle jacks and steel beams praying the original builders did a good job despite literally being there because they didn't
Then you need to lift up the house, build a foundation under the lifted house, make sure it fits because there's no second try and lower it back down.
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u/DaNibbles 1d ago
These specific structures are probably chosen for this montage because it did work well. Each property is unique and not guaranteed to be straight forward... but in theory, yes, most all building cracks are a result of foundation issues from settling and moving. If you are able to reinforce and put the structure back in place to how it was built it would close the cracks up again to look how it did originally.
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u/CobaltCaterpillar 1d ago
Or they filmed a slow motion disaster and then played the film in reverse.
Or these days, hard to rule out AI without checking synthid and various other checks.
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u/charming-choom 1d ago
So you need to call them every three months or house is fucked?
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u/Bulky-Employer-1191 1d ago
Chiropracty is hooey dooey and the "alignments" are about aligning spiritual energies. They're not trying to "align your spine" or any of their marketing bs they pitch.
This is structural engineering. Actual modern science at play. Don't insult these guys by calling them chiropractors.
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u/Frequent_Opportunist 1d ago
Chiropractors are not medical doctors and often cause fatalities or paralysis. You don't need to see a chiropractor for the rest of your life.
If you have a problem with your bone's alignment, go to a licensed physical therapist to correct it appropriately. They will teach you how to keep yourself aligned.
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u/patrickkingart 1d ago
Reminds me of the post credits scene from Superman 2025 where he and Mr. Terrific are looking at the rebuilt building that's just slightly off.
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u/post_break 1d ago
Now you just have to replace all the plumbing under the house that exploded. My coworker is going through this nightmare after getting his foundation fixed.
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u/DownSouthBandit 1d ago
Had my whole foundation leveled 3 years ago and it ended up being $41,000 for a 2300 sq ft house. The company I went with ended up placing 65 cement pilings spread out under the foundation, along with a steel I-beam under a portion of our living room with a new slab poured in 3/4 of our living room. Our house had a 5in difference from the highest point to the lowest point.
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u/EtherealRep 21h ago
Yeah, but I'm SOMEHOW the "bad guy" for asking my landlord for hot water to work 😭
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u/fuckexoticroots 1d ago
"Now fix your damn gutters so it doesn't happen again."