r/nba • • 11h ago

LeBron on if he’s ever played with someone as fast as Tyrese Maxey: “Dennis Schroder… Dennis is damn fast too with the ball and defensively is damn good too.”

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u/heat_fan_ Raptors 11h ago

Schroeder getting his flowers 

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u/ShotgunStyles Kings 11h ago

Schroder also getting traded now that he has the Lebron seal of approval. How about Miami?

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u/Typical-Radish4317 Supersonics 9h ago

Schroeder is going to age well in NBA discourse. Especially since he is probably getting in the HOF

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u/malefiz123 Mavericks 8h ago

He's definitely getting in the HOF. World and Euro Championship with MVPs for both. If you're not getting into the HOF for that it should be renamed to NBA HOF, cause whats the point.

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u/OilOfOlaz Celtics 6h ago

He is also mostly respected by former teammates, ofc he gets clowned for the contract, but shit happens.

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u/YSLAnunoby Raptors 5h ago

I still don't quite understand why we traded him away for nothing because he was pretty good, but I think Darko may have been a bit too in love with running the ball through him vs the team vision of developing Scottie more in that role (Darko had coached him in OKC)

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u/thestinkystingray Raptors 4h ago

I think we had promised him a starting spot and then he was demoted for IQ. So the FO was trying to do right by him

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u/KazaamFan 4h ago

He was on my dubs briefly and i thought he sucked, too small, no defense, couldn’t contest shots, didn’t bring much to the team. 

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u/Magicnik99 76ers 2h ago

He didn't really fit Kerr's philosophy. Schröder needs the ball and make decisions with the ball. He's not someone you play off ball or someone who moves the ball all the time, or someone who shoots a lot of catch and shoot 3s.

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u/teardropshot Cavaliers 11h ago

I mean, the Cavs very literally could not have gotten out of the first round without him, so I agree.

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u/GeorgeEBHastings Cavaliers 10h ago

He wasn't always popular on the Cavs sub (which is mostly whining anyway) but I, for one, really enjoyed Herr Schroder on our team.

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u/teardropshot Cavaliers 7h ago

He has flaws but I never understand fans' instincts to blame Role Player #6 instead of the stars on the team for losses. It's got to be LeBron PTSD, but it's also not like we have a LeBron on our roster.

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u/Ok_Owl2856 United States 11h ago

Dennis is really fast and talented

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u/KarrotMovies [LAL] Chris Mañon 10h ago

My favorite Dennis move is his spin hesi (?) where he at the wing, shifts his body back like he's gonna pass to thetop of the key and then does a full 180 and drives to the rim cause his defender is one step slow

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u/SikeShay Lakers 3h ago

My favorite play is during end of reg, need to kill time and other team wants to take a foul. Dennis is unbeatable at running around wihout being caught lmao

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u/moo422 4h ago

That's pretty much his signature move that he does once per game.

Like Walt Williams' back-to-the-basket behind the back dribble, or Oakley's behind the back bounce pass.

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u/helgestrichen Mavericks 11h ago

Fast to get in there, fast to get out of there

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u/disterb 76ers 8h ago

pause

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u/NatureTrailToHell3D Supersonics 4h ago

Repeat

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u/EatsCatShit Lakers 11h ago

Always professional. Just needs a lag.

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u/ImAShaaaark Supersonics 3m ago

His career utterly baffles me, the guy clearly has the skills to be an elite PG and a highly effective contributor on a contender but he vasicllates between all star caliber and barely playable like few players I've seen.

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u/royalewlthcheese Australia 11h ago

I know he's the Bonnie Blue of the NBA but he's nice, that's why everybody wants a shot.

His deceleration is a thing of beauty.

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u/mightyboognish32 Thunder 11h ago

I enjoyed having him on the Thunder.

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u/_DarkStarCrashes_ 11h ago

that slomo clip of him crossing Dejounte and him laughing and taunting him is one of my favorites

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u/TravellerSL8200 11h ago

Dejounte....wtv happened to that guy

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u/Shasty-McNasty [LAL] Smush Parker 10h ago

He’s on the Pelicans, never to be seen again. (Averages 17,5,6 tho)

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u/royalewlthcheese Australia 11h ago

He should've won 6MOY in 19-20. Best season of his career and he was vital to OKC being surprisingly really good that season.

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u/revisioncloud Thunder 11h ago

Also FIBA Schroder is literally MJ incarnate

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u/darnclem [OKC] Nick Collison 10h ago

I'm rarely frustrated about a snub, but that year felt like no one was watching us enough to see how fucking good he was. He definitely deserved that one.

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u/Spownach Wizards 2h ago

killer 3 guard lineup that year, very enjoyable team to watch with 3 very different types of guards as well, all highly skilled

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u/Troll_U_Softly Thunder 11h ago

He was awesome for us, I remember those days fondly

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u/Pormostar 11h ago

Honestly enjoyed his time with the Raps too

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u/pokerawz Lakers 11h ago

Bonnie Blue? Is that a Scottish term?

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u/royalewlthcheese Australia 11h ago

Lmao

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u/_tx 11h ago

God I hope he googles it lol

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u/cosgrove10 [CLE] Cedi Osman 9h ago

Yeah, it originates from 1057. Google Bonnie blue 1057 to find out more

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u/LMkingly [MIL] Khris Middleton 3h ago

I googled it. Pretty interesting historical facts.

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u/Mr_Cromer Raptors 8h ago

Was immediately suspiciously and googled that on my phone instead...

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u/uncleoptimus 4h ago

thank you for stopping me lol

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u/inconspicuous_ant Slovenia 11h ago

Pornstar. Famous for going through quite a lot of guys.

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u/FindingUsernamesSuck Raptors 8h ago

Eh, we probably could have let him believe the Scottish thing.

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u/Either-Studio4536 10h ago

it's weird you guys know the names of pornstars

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u/GreekGott Lakers 10h ago

Even if you don’t watch porn, she’s kind of infamous for a host of reasons. 1000 men at a go, getting pregnant in one of those orgies, celebrating the kid with a golden shower as a baby shower then having people bid on the name of the kid via an auction site.

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u/eutectic_h8r Raptors 10h ago

Well I knew some of that stuff and now regret that I know all of that stuff

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u/colantor [BOS] Pete Maravich 9h ago

Its not fair if some of us know it all you some of you don't. We all need to suffer together.

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u/SlyMrF0x Warriors 9h ago

Fuck a college fund, I hope she’s funding that kid’s therapy fund

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u/Itchy-Pudding-4240 76ers 10h ago

in this case bonnie blue has become a meme like Eva Elfie so unsurprising. Its not like I can just say Tina Yuzuki and people know who that is

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u/d4nowar 9h ago

Bro knows his ball.

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u/Rahnamatta Heat 5h ago

What happened to Eva Elfie?

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u/inconspicuous_ant Slovenia 9h ago

She was on the mainstream news and all over Reddit. I've never watched a clip of hers, not that I would care if anyone did or not anyway

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u/Wefting 10h ago

Do you really think anyone on this sub gets action like that irl ?

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u/YSLAnunoby Raptors 5h ago

Do you think this is 2006 Reddit? I got gen X coworkers with families browsing the site, it's mainstream as Hell and NBA sub is really big.

If you talking some weird niche sub I'd get it

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u/joshdej NBA 5h ago

Not to mention Bonnie Blue isn't even a strictly reddit thing lol. She is I think atm at Mia Khalifa's or Johnny Sins' level of recognizability in casual circles. I don't think you have to watch porn to know who they are lol.

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u/YSLAnunoby Raptors 5h ago

Idk anything about her but I'll take your word for it

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u/Wefting 5h ago

You don’t have proof

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u/YSLAnunoby Raptors 5h ago

Proof that Reddit is mainstream or proof the sub is mainstream on an incredibly mainstream website? Sub got 17 million subscribers lmao

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u/Wefting 4h ago

Damn you really going to bat for your fellow redditors . Here I was calling everyone a virgin but you so wise and virtuous leapt to the rescue!

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u/AfroManHighGuy 11h ago

He’s trying to say every team wanted a chance at having him on their team.

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u/BeefStu907 Supersonics 10h ago

I think there’s a song about it

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u/PointBlank2100 11h ago

Bonnie Blue, the New York financier?

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u/sanjit8103 Nuggets 11h ago

That’s an insane statement to make lmfao

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u/Mukbeth [PHI] Joel Embiid 11h ago

Mr. Modern Slavery

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u/throwaway8943265 Pistons 11h ago

lol this thread is how I'm finding out he got traded AGAIN and is no longer on the Cavs

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u/KarrotMovies [LAL] Chris Mañon 10h ago

The sad truth is to be a journeyman in the league, you have to be good enough that you got value but not good enough that teams won't sell you away

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u/TJ_IRL_ 6h ago

Laundry Shamet on his way to becoming HOF journey man.

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u/ruckyruciano Knicks 6h ago

And I hope he ends his journey with us 😭

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u/pachimariparty 10h ago

One hell of a comparison LOL

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u/dat_boy_lurks Hawks 1h ago

Yeah, he can infuriate you and his German blunt temperament probably does him no favors, but he's a solid point guard. His game is especially evident during FIBA and the Olympics -- he disappears among star PGs in the NBA, but when he plays for Germany he's a problem

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u/MrBallistik Pistons 1h ago

He did far more than disappear for us

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u/kapparino-feederino Bucks 10h ago

Bonnie Blue

im out of the blue who is bonnie blue?

Edit: I googled...

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u/The_Assassin_Gower Pacers 4h ago

Edit: I googled...

How was it?

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u/ABlazinBlueToe 11h ago

Damn, why you make me google Bonnie Blue on my work computer lol

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u/ImmediatelyDeep Lakers 10h ago

Jesus Christ man what a thing to say

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u/so-cal_kid Lakers 6h ago

Team Germany legend 

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u/GuessZealousideal729 Raptors 4h ago

I'm confused. Is he the Bonnie blue of the nba because everyone wants a shot or because he gets passed around?

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u/Draconda Grizzlies 10h ago

You’ve invoked Dennis Schröder - his passive ability, Nomad's Curse, immediately moves him to the nearest opposing team.

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u/wiresquire1 11h ago

ESPN tomorrow: Does Lebron think Tyrese Maxey is too slow? What does this mean for the sixers season?

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u/Turd_Ferguson420 11h ago

“LeBron says Schroder is faster & better at defense than Maxey”

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u/My-Life-For-Auir Australia 3h ago

You're thinking too small. They can turn this into a story of how LeBron hates Luka because of the Luka/Schroeder beef

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u/Otherwise_Nobody8148 9h ago

Stephen A - I KNOW! Dennis, even HE! would say LeeeBron! is smoking something here!

Now maybe... Maybe maxey is resisting lebron stepping into his father's role? I'm just saying - things aren't looking good for Philadelphia!

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u/Ok-Salad-7799 11h ago

Was it only me or at some points during the game yesterday, everything looked and felt like a blur. I've been watching the NBA for the last two decades and yesterday was the first time I thought everyone was moving on an entirely different plain. The game is just so goddamn fast now.

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u/shortyman920 Lakers 11h ago

The Knicks are always a high effort defensive team and the Sixers have very athletic perimeter players plus a guy like LeBron who can throw surgical fast balls. So this probably was a faster than normal looking ballgame

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u/Immynimmy 76ers 10h ago

Holy shit it’s crazy you just said the Sixers have very athletic perimeter players.

I freaking prayed for times like this.

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u/shortyman920 Lakers 9h ago

Haha enjoy it. That seems to be the current meta of the league. Have all these fast, athletic perimeter players, one solid big (superstar in your case), and then LeBron there to glue it all together

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u/Orphasmia Warriors 7h ago

Totally. That’s also whats causing all these damn achilles tears

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u/FaithlessnessOwn3436 76ers 8h ago

Right? I was like the Philadelphia 76ers? Never read that before in my adult life lol

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u/YSLAnunoby Raptors 5h ago

Last time you could say that was with Jimmy and Ben and even then you had Redick holding you back and Harris who was a decent but not really exceptional athlete

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u/Rapscallious1 9h ago

Plane

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u/Ok-Salad-7799 9h ago

thanks man. ESL here, could use those corrections

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u/CycleV Vancouver Grizzlies 6h ago

Were hear four ewe

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u/yuhanz [PHO] Steve Nash 11h ago

Game is fast enough for stoppages to be long enough. Less game, more ads

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u/TargetGuyJohn Grizzlies 9h ago

First game. 

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u/heshouldgo Lakers 7h ago

Loved Dennis on the lakers, always played with heart and hustle

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u/KazaamFan 4h ago

Really? He sucked in his brief warriors stint. Mostly useless and a defensive liability. 

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u/SwizzGod Lakers 4h ago

He was very good. And I don’t think anyone would consider him being a defensive liability in LA.

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u/hijoshh 1h ago

That’s cause compared to dlo he’s prime rodman

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u/Existing-Ad5460 7h ago

FIBA Dennis is still my favorite dissonance in professional sports

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u/HokageEzio Knicks 11h ago

Not a bad pick, although I think Maxey is a little faster

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u/probablymade_thatup Bucks [MIL] Luke Kornet 11h ago

Maxey also has a crazy motor. If a coach told him to just run non stop the whole game, I bet he'd do it

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u/i_like_philly 76ers 3h ago

You just described Nick Nurse's regular season game plan for the last 2 seasons lol

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u/LA-Aron 11h ago

He has a combo of fast and quick that is unique to him.

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u/mcbiggles 76ers 11h ago

And cute

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u/indoninjah 76ers 9h ago

He's also insanely good at getting off layups at 100mph. He can definitely get tunnel vision and I'd love for him to kick out more, but it's still extremely impressive

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u/AMGBoz Lakers 55m ago

That 6’7 wingspan help too

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u/NbaAllDAYger Mavericks 10h ago

Maxey might be faster overall but Schröder has a quicker step its hard to explain, there are players who are fast and some who are have a elite quick step which makes the defender unable to recover.

D.Rose was blessed with both btw.

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u/Magicnik99 76ers 2h ago

I know what you mean. I have a high level football (soccer) background in Europe. As a basketball player I was always the fastest and also quickest player on every court. But I'm in my late twenties now and had ACL surgery and three meniscus injuries and 2 more surgeries because of that. Also two bone bruises. I'm still by far the fastest player. Like Coast to Coast I'm probably faster with the ball than everyone without the ball.

But that quickness from a standstill has noticeably declined. I didn't even need moves back then, now I often run into someone's chest when I try. Back then it felt like "teleporting" now It feels more like a locomotive that builds speed.

Schröder always had that teleporting quickness to the absolute maximum. He was gone before you could react. But Coast to Coast I would take Maxey all day or most of the other Hyper athletic PGs over the last decade.

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u/PrinceOfAssassins 2h ago

id define it as such from the moment you start to make your move to the end of the first move, people think of explosiveness and they think big rippling muscles but a lot of the first step is neurons firing, its your brain telling your muscles to move faster than the defender can react and get his muscles to move

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u/Standortfaktor 9h ago

Schröder is 33, Maxey is 25. I think now Maxey edges him but Schröder in his younger Hawks years was insanely fast. Like, obviously ever sub 7 foot player that makes it into the NBA is incredibly athletic but you could visually see how Schröder was quicker than everyone on court.

That's why he was such a good 6th man, he'd come off the bench and would feast on tired defenses with his relentless drives to the basket.

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u/ForneauCosmique Spurs 9h ago

Knowing Lebrons photographic memory, I'd have to take his word for it

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u/TahoesRedEyeJedi 11h ago

He loses a few steps in the exchange rate from FIBA to NBA

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u/Confident-Floor1233 Jazz 11h ago

Anyone in here who loves a fast asf PG gotta tap into Isaiah Collier it’s like easily his best trait

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u/SnooDonkeys2892 11h ago

No neck mf, but he can ball out

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u/Confident-Floor1233 Jazz 11h ago

Just a lil bowling ball out there

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u/BlueGrovyle Hawks 9h ago

You think so? From what I've seen of him, I feel like it's just as much his strength/ability to shed other guard defenders like they're mosquitos. And of course, his passing isn't bad either.

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u/Confident-Floor1233 Jazz 9h ago

It’s def a combo of playmaking, strength, and speed that are all pretty top tier traits. The strength and speed work to compliment each other so well with his downhill finishing and ability to collapse the defense. Just can’t shoot worth a damn. I think of him as role player Westbrook.

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u/SnooDonkeys2892 6h ago

I remember that game where jazz were givin my raps the business and him being the mastermind, then they tanked in the 4th lol. He was cuttin us up good

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u/ExtremelyPetty Lakers 9h ago

The streets will never forget Ish Smith

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u/noqms Mavericks 10h ago

Nolan Traore is insanely fast with the ball too

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u/TylerDurdensAlterEgo 10h ago

Brandon Williams is another one who is pretty quick. 

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u/immolxte 10h ago

Love him, great playmaker too.

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u/F7_2007 Nuggets 10h ago

Maxey motor is ridiculous tho both Dennis and Maxey can do the same thing tho Maxey can genuinely do it for 35-36 minutes over an entire season

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u/we_hella_believe 10h ago

Dennis seems like an underrated defender.

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u/throwmeinthetrassssh 10h ago

I loved Dennis. Both times he left us I was sad

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u/Dangerous_Ad5039 11h ago

Dennis Schroder you are a sixer. Congrats.

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u/Trimax42 Germany 11h ago

*Future Basketball Hall of Famer Dennis Schröder

Ftfy

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u/AggroAssault [LAL] Pau Gasol 6h ago

Love Dennis. Always the man to close out games cause he could kill clock with his speed and make free throws

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u/KnickedUp 7h ago

Dennis was a menace….really good when he was focused

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u/CloudstrifeHY3 7h ago

I mean he's played 23 full seasons He has seen or played with just about every type of player

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u/PulgaTheFlea 4h ago

Played with; the fastest I’ve seen in his career is collison. Asshole, but he was fast.

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u/NavyVetRasmussen 8h ago

Yes wel LeBron isn't wrong Dennis Schroder is very fast and can play D.

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u/Impressive-Turnip-38 Trail Blazers 7h ago

Shroeder the shooter! One of my favorite basketball players.

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u/Skinny0ne 3h ago

Sounds like Dennis might be adding Philly to the list of teams he's been on.

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u/FewViolinist8821 2h ago

Loved Dennis when he was on the pistons during our resurgence.

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u/SAM12489 Warriors 11h ago

And all 100 teams he’s played for!!

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u/zigzagtravel01 11h ago

There are players that are genuine arse thats why they get traded so much and there are players whose value and salary are enticing enough to be a good piece so they are a good trade piece. Shroeder is that. He makes decent money so he is a salary filler but he isnt a bum so teams are okay with getting him if since he is a value player whom you can plug to the team

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u/probablymade_thatup Bucks [MIL] Luke Kornet 11h ago

It seems like there's a guy that falls into this category for a few seasons at a time, usually after they have established that they are a reliable vet but on a roughly MLE salary. Robert Covington, Dorian Finney-Smith, Drummond, PJ Tucker, Jae Crowder, Javale

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u/lialialia20 Timberwolves 11h ago

good enough to trade for not good enough to keep

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u/CarsonWentzGOAT1 11h ago

Schroder is a good player on a really good contract

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u/EntertainmentFit3288 Clippers 10h ago

This. But may not have been this if he didn't drop the bag with the Lakers. Luka will remind him of that again next time they play.

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u/Old_Supermarket_7575 Thunder 10h ago

Did Westbrook die

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u/ExpressionAlone5204 Thunder 10h ago

I have to think Westbrook was at least as fast if not faster.

LeBron, however, is not a Brodie fan

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u/Fluid-Second2163 8h ago

big yikes

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u/LittleTinyBoy 11h ago

Dennis was very fast, but also there were a lot of notable moments where he slows down because it looks like he's trying to act nonchalant or something. Very weird.

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u/stridered Suns 11h ago

Think that’s just him trying to figure out what to do next.

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u/LittleTinyBoy 10h ago

Nah there are times when he looks lazy on defense. Seen it too many times.