r/mildlyinfuriating • u/relaqz • 8h ago

ಠ_ಠ Caught our exam grader pasting every essay into ChatGPT

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Not a single word was read per grade.

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u/urbancrier 8h ago

they might be trained to do that (i teach college and ai is now built in)

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u/TwinkiesSucker 8h ago

Yes, but using inappropriate tools means that the essays will be used for further model training and without the consent of the students, this is questionable at best

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u/urbancrier 7h ago

there might be consent (though probably not read) by students to be able to take/sign up to classes - kind of like terms of service. My school is super open about it (boomers love ai)

There is also an educational ai that is explicitly not used to train the models - no idea if he is using that.

I am a little checked out of the details as I don't teach classes where this is applicable (Im an architect and teach them hand drafting and model building) and also not applicable in my day to day as an architect - but kind of shocked how much it is used and encouraged

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u/BooHorde 4h ago

but using inappropriate tools

they might be trained to do that

The comment you replied too is saying it might not be an "innapropriate tool".

There are enterprise licensing option for most large LLM's that cover this.

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u/OnceMoreAndAgain 5h ago edited 5h ago

It's probably a controversial opinion on reddit, but I genuinely believe there exist AI models today that can be trained to grade papers as good or better than a professor. The key would be the professor coming up with a fairly sophisticated grading rubric as well as training the model via things like feeding it transcripts of each lecture. You could also train it by feeding it old exams that the professor or teaching assistant already graded and then having the model come up with a grade and then if it's significantly different from what the professor graded it then have the model explain why it gave the grade it did and then instruct it why that grade wasn't "correct".

I think AI in education isn't as problematic as some might think. It's just about remembering what your goal is with a certain assignment/task. Is the goal to test the student's knowledge? Okay, then test them on-premises so that they have to write their answers by pen/pencil. If AI makes homework impossible to verify as being from the student, then stop assigning essays and problem sets as homework and change your method. Maybe students watch lectures as homework and then they do the essays and problem sets on-premises.

Adapt, ya know... It's not the first time we've had to revolutionize our methods due to new technology. I don't even think this case is particularly difficult to work around unless it is people taking online courses. Online courses are pretty fucked by AI. No idea how you could possibly avoid an online student from using AI for tests and homework.

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u/urbancrier 4h ago

I grade depending on the specific student's growth. Even without a name, I can tell who does what. A student that comes in with no knowledge that improves so much, compared to a student that was versed on the subject that puts no additional effort.

My program is a little more job training, so I am an easy A, but the $$$ just paid will be a waste if you put nothing into it. It can make sense in my program, but certain subjects need to be graded neutrally.

I would also say the water waste issue is completely different than the ethical issues. We should absolutely be able to solve the water issue + the fact we are not putting more resources to work on that is criminal - but the ethics are complicated and there is no right answer.