r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Skwellington GREEN • 10h ago
I just wanted a hot dog Sign outside of a baseball field that intends for children to pledge allegiance to God and to follow the laws of the U.S. before getting to the main message of trying their best during their Little League games.
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u/Sufficient_Stop8381 9h ago
Interesting. I’ve never seen this before and I played little league in the southern Bible Belt. Maybe we were a heathen team and didn’t know it.
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u/BrutalAnarky 9h ago
Yeah I played little league all the way to HS ball and we never did whatever this it. However I did have to do the pledge of allegiance in elementary school so I could see how we got there.
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 9h ago edited 9h ago
Did you ever play in the postseason (all-stars) tournament? That’s the only time it’s enforced I believe. And even then, the district could choose not to enforce the rule.
Edit: it’s explicitly not a rule actually:
“Whether to recite the Little League Pledge (either partially or in its entirety), play/sing a National Anthem, or say a prayer, is entirely up to the local league’s Board of Directors. While many local leagues and districts include a recitation of the Little League Pledge in ceremonies, it is not, and has never been, required to be recited by any person involved with Little League Baseball or Softball.
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u/One-Insurance-5878 9h ago
You may have played PONY League, a separate organization. This is true if the age levels had names like Pinto, Mustang, Bronco, etc.
Actual Little League requires this pledge before every game.
Ofc, it's possible your local organization broke national rules.
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u/Infidelio 9h ago
Nah. I’m with him. I coached my son’s LL team for 2 years and never once saw this. We were LL. Not Pony
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u/strongbadia7 9h ago
I didn't play little league but I did play softball and we used the same facilities. I've never seen this pledge in my life and I never saw anyone reciting it. I'm pretty confident that we didn't have the anthem play or anything before games. Our coaches were mostly functional alcoholics who were not invested in teaching us anything. (With the one notable exception of Larry, who rocks.)
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u/CannedNoodlez 9h ago
I played LL in the 90s and don’t ever remember reciting this. Someone might have read it during opening ceremonies but I’m almost positive I never had to recite it
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u/Lich-Slapped 9h ago
At my first little league (96-99) wesaid it every opening day and i wanna say every game pregame. But then i moved to a new city in like 2000 and that league never had us say it. I think it really was a “who is the commissioner of this little league” kinda deal
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u/Automatic_Actuator_0 9h ago edited 9h ago
Not sure about the old days - my youth league was not part of LL.
But today they have the kids recite it at opening ceremonies and then before each all-star game along with the national anthem.
Edit: it’s explicitly not a rule actually:
“Whether to recite the Little League Pledge (either partially or in its entirety), play/sing a National Anthem, or say a prayer, is entirely up to the local league’s Board of Directors. While many local leagues and districts include a recitation of the Little League Pledge in ceremonies, it is not, and has never been, required to be recited by any person involved with Little League Baseball or Softball.
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u/grandmawaffles 9h ago
I believe god was added to the pledge of allegiance in the 50’s as well. My guess was following the trend at the time.
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u/CountDorkula77 9h ago
Also added to currency at that time, in an effort to fight "godless communism."
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u/Mental_Plankton7902 😬 9h ago edited 9h ago
Yesterday the reds were the enemy and today we now has Krasnov and MAGA defending them.
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u/_njhiker 9h ago
Per their website:
“The Little League® Pledge is a historical document, written in the mid-1950s, by an official of Little League. It is not, and has never been, required to be recited by any person involved with Little League Baseball or Softball.
The text of the Little League Pledge has remained unchanged since its inception.”
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u/Dear_Mycologist_1696 10h ago
I played official Little League from ‘86-‘93 and never once saw “trust in god” or “love my country” anywhere. It was never posted anywhere and never spoken. Yes it has been around since 1954, but modern American conservatives have taken every opportunity to post Christian nationalist adjacent slogans and signs everywhere they can to trick kids into thinking god is real and is a part of our countries founding and governmental structure. That is what is beyond mildly infuriating about this sign.
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u/--_____o_o______-- 9h ago
“When fascism comes to America, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying the cross.” * Sinclair Lewis, 1935
_ Using jingoistic bullshit to tie god, service, and country together is and will always be disgusting.
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u/_probablyryan 9h ago
Same. I played little league in the late 90s and early 2000s. Didn't even know there was a pledge, let alone that it started off thanking God. Also did boy scouts, and while I was aware that it was a Christian-ish organization, there was little to no talk of God involved.
I guess all the conservative snowflakes got upset not enough people were thanking their imaginary friend in public.
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u/Kaneki_Kim 10h ago
I really have no idea why people come into a sub called mildly infuriating and then say "there's better things to be upset about"
Hunny, just say you don't get it, this is literally where posts like this GO. Everyone here just defending this bc they think it's an affront to God if they don't. Problem is, this is WEIRD for a bunch of KIDS to PLEDGE just to PLAY BASEBALL.
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u/Sad_bippy 10h ago
I posted something very mildly annoying here once years ago and got eviscerated for being “dramatic.” It’s fascinating. Do people just not read the subreddit name????
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u/turBo246 9h ago
I do think that's a part of it. They don't realize the sub and just go for the jugular.
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u/Skwellington GREEN 10h ago
Why is no one reading the “mildly” part. “Mildly infuriating” is low key translated to “slightly annoying” in my mind and everyone thinks I’m abt to go postal over this dumbass sign lolol
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u/megab_rising 10h ago
I swear people just skip over the mildly...they miss the entire tone of this sub.
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u/Turbulent-Good227 9h ago
At this point I don’t believe this sub is for posting mildly infuriating things. It seems to be for dogpiling on people and telling them what they’re frustrated about isn’t valid
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u/Optimixto 9h ago
Religious people are so fucking weird. It is such a catastrophe that we are so prone to that kind of bullshit.
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u/TheRoyalShire 9h ago
That has been the pledge for at least 30 years now, I remember everyone chanting it
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u/RAGGAxDRAGGA 10h ago
Gotta start propagandizing them when they're young unfortunately
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u/MaterialPace8831 9h ago
Little League Dad who is four beers in: "GOD DOESN'T LOVE YOU IF YOU DON'T FUCKING SWING!"
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u/Gottech1101 9h ago
Oh, I got a good one.
In the small town my in laws live in, they call their little leagues the ‘midget league’. They also have the confederate flag flying beside the American flag during their pledges.
I wish I were joking.
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u/Born_Matter_5082 9h ago
Most kids play in some other league now anyway. Pretty sure their motto starts with an ode to the almighty dollar
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u/AhSoulsOnFire 9h ago
This has been the Little League pledge for like 70 years…..
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u/Squier133 9h ago
I played little league for like 8 years, from t- ball until middle school. Never once saw that little league pledge or heard anyone pushing it.
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u/SignificantRun6039 10h ago
I wonder how many people that are okay with this would be fine if it said "I trust in Allah."
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u/Facebook_Lawyer_Gym 10h ago edited 9h ago
Allah still means god so it checks out, but for sure conservatives would be pretty scared over it.
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u/Ecstatic_Doughnut216 10h ago
Oh, you're not going to like the Scout Oath then.
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u/remosiracha 9h ago
I refused to recite any parts that had to do with God the entire time I was in scouts.
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u/NittanyScout 9h ago
Rmember a lot of this stuff was created during cold war panic era politics, nust like the actual pledge of allegiance
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u/stickyplants 10h ago
Well Timmy, you’re going to hell because you didn’t play your best at little league. You entered a verbal contract.
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u/Odd-Entrepreneur-449 9h ago
Thanks for sharing this. I feel much better about the organization now.
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u/Actually_R0bin 9h ago
If you did a singular word change (God to Allah) you’d see this stadium receive bomb threats
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u/Myth1184 9h ago
I played at a field that started off Dixie Youth...never saw anything religion related and we are in the bible belt of Georgia...later converted to Little League...and never saw any religious poster either...
is this new or in some far right area?
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u/CalebDR1029 10h ago
What's so infuriating?
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u/ONEpoundDOUBLE 9h ago
It’s comedy that being against indoctrination makes you indoctrinated
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u/Budget-Cantaloupe725 9h ago
That’s the little league pledge. It’s the same as it was when I played 50 years ago.
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u/Paratrooper450 9h ago
The entire point of the Little League Pledge is to make it non-specific to any nation, since Little League is played in more than 80 countries worldwide. That's why it says "my country" not "the United States."
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u/bbatardo 10h ago
It's the same pledge from when I was a kid. I'm not even religious, but it never bothered me.
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u/Killing4MotherAgain 10h ago
I also said the pledge of allegiance every morning at school and didn't think that was weird until I became an adult haha
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u/fuelvolts 9h ago
Same for Boy Scouts. A "trust" in a generic Abrahamic God. Didn't offend me at all. I mean, it's kind of weird, but I never thought twice about it. They are a private organization, they can do whatever they want.
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u/No-Needleworker5429 10h ago
This was actually nostalgic to read. Totally forgot we said this before every game.
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u/Sac_of_Melons 10h ago
You guys said this before every game? Lmao, I played t-ball to high school and this is the first time I’ve ever seen this.
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u/Mental_Plankton7902 😬 10h ago
You have to get those youths mentally conditioned young so you can get them ready to sacrifice themselves for the robber barons as they mature into adults.
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u/ShutYourDumbUglyFace 9h ago
Someday, hopefully, those kids wake up to the indoctrination they are undergoing and rebel against it.
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u/Rocket1575 10h ago
It's been the pledge since 1955. Never bothered me when I was a kid in the early 90s, we didn't recite it or anything, it was just posted at the field we played at like it is here. I had forgotten about it until my own kids started playing, same thing, no recitation, just a sign. It still doesn't bother me.
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u/Jamesglodge 9h ago
This is standard in Little League. My kids’ league in California does it before each game, does not bother me at all.
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u/DigglerD 9h ago edited 9h ago
So if you don’t trust in god, you can’t play little league?
What if it said I trust in
MohammadOdin?It probably doesn’t bother you because it already speaks to you. This is the problem. People are OK with the freedom of others to be just like them. That’s not what this country or little league is supposed to be about.
Edit: Yes guys… I should have said Allah instead of Mohammad or Buddha, or Odin, or some other god... That said, if you really want to turn the discussion into a critique of my knowledge of Islam, then ok you win while missing the entire point of the response.
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u/Ok-Shoulder-797 9h ago
When I read God, I read higher power. Whether that’s Mohammed, Buddha, Jesus, the spaghetti monster, the universe or nature.
Why does everyone need to trip up over one word. Find useful things to invest time in. The world is on fire and we are tripping over words…it’s a shame.
But this is ONLY my opinion and I share because I want to, not because I’m downplaying anyone’s opinion or feelings.
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u/shonuff_1977 9h ago
Operating under the pretense that "God" in this context is the Christian god - when you say you trust in Mohammed you are also saying that you trust in god. Because the Christian god and Islamic god are, in fact, the same god. Which is hair raising if you think about it. All the historical wars. All the current intolerance. Between people who literally worship the same entity.
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u/LewisRyan 9h ago
Do you not use cash because it says “in god we trust” on it?
Just trying to figure out if you’re being intentionally obtuse, or a hypocrite, or both
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u/Status_Blacksmith305 9h ago
What a stupid response. You're comparing using money to a pledge. That's like comparing apples to cars.
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u/Matt_the_Pyro 9h ago
Honestly didn't know, and so glad we didn't have to say it.
But why was it now put up? Are extremes being reached?
And why what does god have to do with baseball? "Its an American sport" God = America is a thin argument when u know the under god was added after super weathy religious types lobbies took over the upper offices of the government and added it. Along with one nation under god.
Not the original pledge.
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u/InternetDad 9h ago
Separation of church and state has nothing to do with this. This is a 501c3, not a government program.
A quick google search confirms this pledge is optional for the Little League International (80+ countries) based on local org preference as local orgs may choose to pray or play their own national anthem.
The pledge was written when the first LL president learned that teams were reciting the pledge of allegiance.
That doesnt make it not weird for the pledge to be so US-coded, though.
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u/TheLZA84 10h ago
I remember the first time I went to an actual Little League sanctioned game to watch a friend’s son play and before the game they had the parents recite something as well…then the kids…I was like wtf is this? Just take the field and play ball. It was something.
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u/rjnd2828 10h ago
You're right. Why is little league, a youth sports organization, taking a stand one way or another on religion? It's absurd.
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u/Skwellington GREEN 10h ago
I’m not upset about the someone putting up the sign, it’s just weird imo that this is the official pledge for LL and its mostly about indoctrination instead of the game
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u/One-Assignment-1860 9h ago
American brainwashing seems endemic. People really buy into this without stopping to think, and then have the gall to criticise (or invade) other countries cultures and religion.
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u/GarageFridgeSoda 9h ago
Same people who put up the sign: I can't believe these godless leftists call us christian nationalists, anyway time to beat my wife because she voted against my wishes.
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u/Playful_Assistance89 10h ago
We always did the Pledge of Allegiance every morning when I was a schoolboy. I never did quite understand why, and as I grew older it made even less sense. It's not like these 5 year olds have clearances and are running around carrying state secrets.
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u/Wipedout89 10h ago
I've always found it very North Korea that America makes kids stand up and pledge allegiance to a flag with their hands on their hearts
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u/Andrei_the_derg 10h ago
In my schooling it was required to stand and recite the pledge with a hand over your heart every morning while facing the flag that hung on the wall
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u/triglavianenjoyer 10h ago
It doesn’t, that would be against the First Amendment. It’s polite to at least stand for the pledge or the anthem, the same way it is in every other democracy, but you won’t get shot or sent to a labor camp for disrespecting the flag or anthem in the US. The same cannot be said for North Korea.
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u/onemassive 9h ago
We got sent to the vice principals office if we didn't adhere to the protocol of at least standing for the pledge
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u/partlysettledin21220 10h ago
Give our government 5 minutes damn, they can’t shoot everybody at once.
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u/CrazyBigHog 9h ago
It’s because our school system was hijacked decades ago. “Kindergarten” it’s not an English word. The idea of pledging allegiance and a ringing bell to go to your next class(work station) was to make us good little workers for the state.
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u/Ok_Builder_4225 10h ago
My friend and i always changed the words when were younger lol
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u/Optimixto 9h ago
But you know the real words. They are like a hymn, like a prayer. Ingrained forever in you.
How do I know? I spent 3 years in an international military base where the main school claimed to be international while using the US (horribly inefficient) education system. And every single morning, your propaganda wpuld be blast through speakers. Not once did I say to that, but I can repeat it in a heartbeat.
It is literally such a weird fucking thing to do to kids, indoctrination as blatant as can be. You know the only other thing that did this to me? The prayers that christians forced me to recite when I was in a catholic school. Funny how the reactionaries love this shit so much but cry about pride flags.
(Nothing against you, not mad at you)
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u/Morpheus636_ 10h ago
It doesn't. They're not required to stand or recite it.
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u/nuglasses 10h ago
Back in the day, one had to stand up or leave the classroom as not to disrupt the rest of the classroom.
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u/Morpheus636_ 10h ago
Unless "back in the day" was pre-1943, when West Virginia State Board of Education v. Barnette, 319 U.S. 624 (1943) overruled Minersville School Dist. v. Gobitis, 310 U. S. 586 (1940), that requirement was unlawful.
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u/Pinikanut 10h ago
Huh. My school required that we stand. I used to stand but not put my hand up or recite it. They said I couldn't stay seated. Maybe that was just my school but I was certainly required and I went to public school.
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u/mattkaru 10h ago
My high school in the mid-2000s required us to stand even if we didn't speak. It was a direct response to a student protest from a student who refused to stand that got the local media (and activist groups iirc) involved. If the requirement to stand was illegal they continued to break the law. I'm sure this still happens in conservative areas.
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u/Greenfire32 10h ago
It's not required, but it's "required."
When I was a kid it was a lot safer to stand up, put your hand over your heart and just mumble along, than it was to stay seated.
And I wasn't living under the rise of fascism on American soil back then like kids are today.
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u/rjnd2828 10h ago
Not required but certainly expected. It's kind of distopian if you step back and think about it
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u/tableleg7 10h ago
Well, how else do you propose we spot those godless commies?!
Surely, a communist spy would never be able to simply recite the pledge without revealing themselves.
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u/ChocoGoodness 10h ago
Ah yes, because that's just as horrific as what happens in North Korea. So many people in America are so damn entitled and pretend they're just as oppressed as countries as this.
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u/sassysiggy 9h ago
It’s all because of the Cold War and some crazy idea that atheist communists wouldn’t say the pledge because they couldn’t, but we all know that’s stupid. Original pledge didn’t even have god in it.
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u/Aggravating_West3619 9h ago
WTF does any of that have to do with baseball- show up and play- it’s not rocket science
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u/OnePassion_46 9h ago
I played little league for a Catholic School and we didn’t have signs like this.
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u/_probablyryan 9h ago
To all the conservative snowflakes in this thread acting confused about why this upsets people, imagine if you took your kid to their baseball game and the coaches made all the children line up and promise Cthulhu that they won't do drugs before the start of the game. And you had to sit there and watch like half of the people in your community take this completely seriously, and treat you like you're a traitor to your country if you object.
Weird, right?
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u/QNZMadamant 9h ago
It’s been the pledge since the 50’s. I suppose you never played Little League?
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u/CheezWong 10h ago
Nothing like indoctrinating kids to serve before ever teaching them to have fun or enjoy life.
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u/Icy-Entrepreneur9002 10h ago
Little League International operates as a private, non-sectarian organization open to children of all backgrounds and faiths without religious tests.
National policy does not mandate the religious phrase; individual local league boards of directors decide whether to recite the pledge or include that specific line.
Like anything if the phrase bothers you that much remove your child and move on to a different organization. There is no discrimination, you don’t have to say the phrase to play. If a private organization or company wants to include religious statements they are entitled to do so, and you’re entitled to not participate or be a customer.
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u/BookkeeperBoobs 9h ago
Yeah but also the organization and whatever it says isn’t above reproach either…
In other words, complaining about it isn’t off the motherfucking menu
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u/mcampo84 9h ago edited 9h ago
Or it’s a fucking children’s sport that could be fucking inclusive. Last time I checked there’s no religion that requires you to play baseball or vice versa.
Yes they have a right to be exclusionary.
That doesn’t make it right that they are exclusionary.
Removing the top half of that sign would cause them precisely zero harm.
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u/luseferr 9h ago
It's little league baseball not the boyscouts. That sign is weird.
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u/Desperate-Grade-1338 10h ago
Bullsh*t, don’t assume everybody believes in an imaginary deity. As far as this country and it’s laws, that’s a personal opinion as well, especially with this current administration
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u/Idontknowhoiam143 9h ago
God doesn’t even play baseball. He plays soccer.
He’s also an asshole that loves to watch this country suffer
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u/United_Scallion7690 9h ago
i promise you the kids are not reading this pledge every time they take the field
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u/No-Wonder1139 9h ago
Weird. My local rink the sign just reminds you the players are children, so are the referees, the coaches are volunteers, and to not yell at them.
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u/Hellsman44 9h ago
Because trump has been basically breaking the wall down that separated goverment and the church
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u/I_Flick_Boogers 9h ago
It reads like something written in 1954…because that’s when it was written.

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u/IDontLikeYourToan 10h ago edited 9h ago
The Little League® Pledge was written in 1954 by Peter J. McGovern, the first president of Little League Baseball, Incorporated, after became aware that local Little League programs were reciting the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance before games. Mr. McGovern wanted to give all leagues (not just those in the United States) a pledge reflecting some of the sentiments of the Pledge of Allegiance, without the references to the U.S., while adding the elements of sportsmanship and the desire to excel.
In February 1955, the Little Leaguer®magazine featured the first printing of the Little League Pledge. The text of the Little League Pledge was sent to U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower on Feb. 22, 1955. President Eisenhower (and every President since then) was a strong supporter of Little League.
In a response by letter to Mr. McGovern a few days later, President Eisenhower said: “Thank you for … sending me the inspiring and fine pledge that, I understand, will now be repeated at the start of the Little League games. I am always glad to hear the plans and activities of Little League.” It has remained unchanged since it was first published.
Pledge
I trust in God
I love my country
And will respect its laws
I will play fair
And strive to win
But win or lose
I will always do my best
Today, local Little League programs often choose to recite the Little League Pledge at the start of the season, and some recite it before every game. Some local leagues also choose to play or sing the National Anthem of the country in which the game is played.
Whether to recite the Little League Pledge (either partially or in its entirety), play/sing a National Anthem, or say a prayer, is entirely up to the local league’s Board of Directors. While many local leagues and districts include a recitation of the Little League Pledge in ceremonies, it is not, and has never been, required to be recited by any person involved with Little League Baseball or Softball.
A message promoting good sportsmanship and appropriate behavior by the game’s participants and fans can also be publicly read following the Little League Pledge. That statement is:
“Little League International and all of its local leagues promote and expect good sportsmanship by its players, coaches, volunteers, and spectators. We request your cooperation by supporting the participants and officials in a positive manner. Profanity, racial or ethnic comments, or other intimidating actions taken by spectators, players, coaches, or volunteers that is deemed inappropriate by the Little League International Tournament Committee will not be tolerated and may jeopardize the eligibility of the participating teams within this District tournament.”
Little League also has a pledge for Parents and Volunteers that is often recited along with the player pledge.
The Little League Parent and Volunteer Pledge
I will teach all children to play fair and do their best
I will positively support all managers, coaches and players
I will respect the decisions of the umpires
I will praise a good effort despite the outcome of the game
Edit: Formatting