I saw a ducky once
Friend refusing free kickball because of the AI flyer š
Would he rather every event cost money so we can pay someone on fiver $30 to make one? Is he ok with a flyer designed over seas or does it need to be local only? Should I even host a free event unless I have the money to pay designers?
Why even throw free events if event planners are expected to pay for everything out of their own pocket? Free = attendees donāt cover costs.
Should we only wait for wealthy do to free community events so they can pay for everything to be hand done? Because honestly, thatās exactly whatās wrong with non profit tax classifications today.
It's eating itself. The more of these flyers that are created and uploaded to the internet, the more AI is going to find them as something to base another AI created flyer on.
Itās not that hard to put together a flyer in Canva or another free service without using AI and it still be free. Go outside with your phone camera and take some photos of a ball. This is such a cop out it doesnāt have to cost money to not use AI.
You do realize that people have been making flyers for free without the use of AI for decades, right? Like, most flyers you see on the street weren't made by either AI or graphic designers - just people using basic programs on their computer like Microsoft Word/Powerpoint, or free tools like Canva.
I volunteer at a non profit 100% volunteer-run bike shop. The shop has no owner and is completely run by random folks who use their free time to help people repair their bikes, for a "pay what you can" donation system.
I spent my weekend (for FREE!! š±š±) last week screwing around in Procreate to pretty up the business hours poster. I'm not a designer at all, I just spent some time googling for references to draw and fun fonts. Prior to that, someone else (ALSO for free) made one with MS Paint, and before them, sharpies. Others have paid actual money to build folding signs, designed and printed stickers, etc.
OP is acting like the ordeal of spending some thought and a few hours of time to organize a fun thing for their community is like asking them to be an unpaid exploited servant. Free doesn't mean you don't have to try bro, your community should be worth some effort
Your caption makes it seem like making a flyer on your own is hard. As if people havenāt been making their own flyers at home for free for literal centuries
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The more things with AI that get support, the more AI will be used. Sorry, Iām with your friend. I grew up making flyers and stuff in word and paint for free with no issue. Itās not difficult to avoid AI.
100%. I'm a designer and now I get calls from people essentially checking my opinion to confirm that their AI design is sufficient enough to avoid paying for a real designer. It's pretty defeating. I was all for giving free advice to smaller clients who put in the effort to do something themselves. Now I won't even speak to anyone without charging them, which means they don't want to speak with me either.
I can make a poster on Canva just as well and have done so as an admin assistant for many companies. I made posters for potlucks, fundraisings events, company events, marketing presentations, signage for āshowsā, and brochures.
I would rather someone make a basic flyer in MS Paint. Open Google docs and make a basic flyer. Some people legitimately do not want to attend or support anything that used AI, even if it was just for the flyer.
You are whining about a non-issue. There are plenty of free tools online for making a poster. A lot of people dislike AI. You're going to have to get over that.
People advertised things before AI, even for free. It's not as though a free kickball tournament needs a flyer at all. Text works fine.
Also, yeah, I'd be less interested in going because of the flyer too. It seems like you wanted a picture of people enjoying last year's tournament and didn't have any because they hated it.
It takes like 10 minutes to make a flyer without AI. Maybe they understand if someoneās willing to be lazy with a flyer, it probably extends into other areas
It takes about 10 minutes to design a free poster on canva or similar things. If you knew your friend didn't like ai (as many people don't) why use it.
Dude, not only is it ai but itās kinda ugly and makes me think āif the organizers didnāt want to put this much effort into their advertisement then the event is probably going to be lazily put together tooā
Do YouTube tutorials on how to use Canva. Even a word doc with a few images of a kickball would be better.
Youāre overreacting and projecting a lot on your friend. All they said is that they donāt personally want to take part in an event that uses AI to make its flyers. Theyāre not stopping you or anyone else from joining if you want to.
I donāt see any indication that your friend thinks āevery event should cost moneyā or that they think you should āonly wait for wealthy to do free community eventsā.
"I don't have time to put text together in a free app, and I also don't have money to pay a designer, and also I don't have skills to arrange text... so I am entitled to AI use because I am baby. me baby, only kick ball."
A lot of people at my college aren't showing up to events due to all of the posters using AI. No one is looking at the posters because all of them look ugly and blend in together.
Personally I skipped a long running haunted house event because the ad for it was full of AI. It just makes me assume the haunted house itself is gonna be full of AI bullshit tbh
If you have a computer and 10 minutes, you can make a kickball flyer for free. Will it be a really visually appealing flyer? No, but its about a 1 day kickball tournament.... I thought maybe I could find reasoning on your side but your description is wack
Iāve told the HR and activities group at work to not expect me at events with an AI poster as the only notification.
Making an event poster takes about ten minutes of undivided attention and a word document. Thatās the point youāre missing. You donāt need a āsuper fun, colorful, busyā promo with so much going on itās difficult to read the information. You donāt need to pay up the nose for a struggling artist to design a poster for a one off event (although they would appreciate it)
If a human canāt put in the effort to make a poster or an email that invites me to an event, I canāt put in the effort to come. Plain and simple.
Why would paying someone $30 make the entire event cost money? Moreover, why can't you just make the flyer yourself? You jumped to a lot of really artificial rhetoric that corporations use to defend this shit that don't really make any sense, and tbh I wouldn't go either based on this. AI is garbage and anyone who uses it for stupid stuff like this at this point should know better.
you came to reddit for AI sympathy? what? Like i don't have super strong opinions on the topic, but it's wild to me that you thought you were going to have this viewpoint supported.
I'm on your friend's side here. You don't need a designer, even a Word document would be better than that. An AI flyer is a waste of energy that takes legitimacy away from the cause.
I am on Your friends side. If they cant even put up 5min to make a simple flyer, then the tournement is probly organized with the same amount of effort....
Nah, I'm with the friend. Idk why everyone is under the impression that you have to spend $$$ on a flyer when Canva is free, easy, and won't look like dog shit.
Only mildly infuriating thing is this ugly ass slop poster that looks indistinguishable from every other.
AI flyers look like shit and tell me that whoever organised the event doesn't care that it looks like shit. A free template online or on Microsoft Publisher would look better.
You arenāt capable of making a basic flyer yourself without paying a designer?? If itās a free event, who is expecting expensive advertising? Iām with your friend. You need to raise your standards and stop making excuses to not put forth effort.
well, if your marketing is actively driving customers away maybe, just maybe, yes you should have your promotional materials created by a human who will guide people to your event rather than away from it.
when i see ai vomit like this it makes me question both the safety and integrity of the event. when corners are cut in such an obvious manner i can only wonder what measures have been used that we can't see and it simply displays how poorly an event is run.
If an event I'm interested in uses AI to create their flyers, I'm not supporting it. I'm sick of seeing this same font and style slapped on everything. Take a few minutes in Canva to create something, or edit a flyer that was used in the past with the updated information.
I personally pay out of pocket a quick 20-40 bucks for an actual person to make a flyer and offset the cost by having the gang bring drinks and snacks to share. Itās only fair since I organize the thing. I always bring food and drinks anyway. Lil sandwiches and Gatorade and a big cooler. Itās about the effort.
Good friend. That flyer is embarrassing and everybody involved should be ashamed of themselves. My kids school can't stop with the dumb AI flyers and it's driving me nuts
I, without any previous experience, would make a better one with FREE CANVA
This is zero effort slop that poisons our creativity, curiosity and will to adapt to something new and learn, not to mention, poisons our lands as well. So no, neither me would be glad to come to slopfest, sorry not sorry
Yeah, I get using it if you want to make a flyer to invite friends or whatever for a free event. Itās basically the same as using canva or any of those websites.
That being said, itās ugly and most people donāt really fuck with AI. Itās just so unappealing and screams low effort.
Is it that hard to just put some pictures of kickball together and make it yourself? Who cares if it looks amateurish, it will be way more personal and appealing I think.
Also, whatās the issue with paying someone for their time and effort to make a flyer the way you want? Iām sure OP youād also like to be paid fairly for your job, and not have someone do it automated because a computer literally stole your artstyle..?
Do you think making a flyer is some kind of lost art or that only certain people can make one? Who needs one made overseas? You can literally make one in 5 minutes on MSPaint. I don't even look at AI flyers because why should I? Flyers are meant to catch attention and all info should be easily taken in in a single quick glance. They should be visually appealing and unique enough to be remembered.
your āargumentā is the problem lol. you act like it costs insane money to make a poster. all you had to do was write the info down on a sheet of paper, not hand draw the mona lisa.
donāt be mad that your friends have boundaries that are easy to not cross.
It really doesn't take much effort to learn how to make a decent flyer. I can understand someone being turned of by an AI flyer - it makes it look like a scam, and if someone isn't putting any effort in making a flyer, one will question if they treat the event with the same lack of effort.
"Would he rather every event cost money so we can pay someone on fiver $30 to make one?"
Yes.
Or make it yourself. Don't use AI.
I promise anything put out by a person is 1000 times better than this shit.
Your friend is right. If you take the cheap lazy way out when it comes to marketing, it's safe to assume that's how the rest of the event was put together š¤·š¼āāļø
I'd go out if my way to not support stuff that utilizes generative AI. I support artists and people that either use their own creativity, or hire someone that does. I'd pay a little more to support that. Fuck soulless AI trash. Some of us still have principles.
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u/jibbodahibbo 6d ago
Lmao the poster is so bad. Here you go OP. Just put this as the top image and then details below.