r/memes • • 10h ago

Just... ask for more money?

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u/Weak-Hamster- 9h ago

I think they view tips as "good job" even if its as small as extra two dollars

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u/Queasy_Local_7199 9h ago

I’m paying you the price you quoted to do a good job

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u/RabbitStewAndStout 9h ago

Right? I've never heard of tipping your plumber or mechanic, so why would I be tipping another person setting their own rates?

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u/jaxmikhov 8h ago

I recently had a plumbers payment app ask for a tip. Default was 20% on a $4500 job. Fuck no. I agreed to pay for a service, I got the service as agreed, you only get the price we agreed on.

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u/cykoTom3 8h ago

Holy fuck can you imagine? No man, i get quotes because we're already pushing my budget. Unless you do something out of your way, no. And unless that out of your way thing is purchasing and installing a toilet or something there's no way I'm tipping 900

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u/money_loo 5h ago

Needed a tow recently and the truck drivers app had the same damn thing. Defaulted to 25% tip I’m like no fuckin way.

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u/Noonites 3h ago

The point of sale system at the dealership asked if I wanted to tip 20% on a $2,000 repair job. I almost shit my pants in sheer rage.

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u/AccomplishedDirt7356 8h ago

I have tipped my plumber and mechanic.

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u/Ok_Peak4835 8h ago

As a kindness, not as an expectation. I like to tip when I want to, but as soon as I feel pressured to tip, my defenses go up. 

I agree though, tipping a service provider for being reliable and high quality is a nice thing to do if you can. A mechanic/contractor is a good example, because many are not reliable or honest. Finding one that does good work and charges sane prices almost feels like a non-social friendship. Like they are doing some kind of public service by not scamming desperate folks. 

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u/AccomplishedDirt7356 7h ago

Yeah - ok this I can agree with, as a kindness and not an expectation. I agree with that completely.

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u/RabbitStewAndStout 8h ago

I guess I mean more in terms of an independent contractor. If your guy is working from something like Roto-Rooter or American Tire Depot or something, they're just an employee.

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u/AccomplishedDirt7356 8h ago

Hmm, both the people I tipped owned their own business, I felt their prices were fair, they were honest and did a good job.

When it comes to service jobs, I'll buy donuts for them too, or whatever. I dunno, I think it comes from a mindset like, man your job is hard to do 8 hours a day, I appreciate your skill at it.

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u/RabbitStewAndStout 8h ago

Oh don't get me wrong, I absolutely offer some kind of snack/food, drinks and stuff. I just wouldn't give them more money than the price that they set themselves

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u/stopsallover 8h ago

I'm inclined to buy a nice gift or tip enough for a good lunch if someone did a solid job and charged less than expected.

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u/Allaplgy 47m ago

Am mechanic. Get tipped sometimes. Never expect it, but it's nice when it happens. Customers will also bring us snacks or buy us lunch or bring us bottles of hooch or some choice buds for Christmas.

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u/Invader_Skooge22 9h ago edited 8h ago

Put your money where your mouth is and tell that to every single tattoo artist, hair stylist, barber, bar tender, server, or anywhere that accepts tips and post a follow up comment of how a weekend out on the town goes for you lol.

Make a YouTube doc out of it and go viral, I would watch for sure. It would be a train wreck

Edit: to be clear, tell them BEFORE they begin whatever service it is they are providing you lol

I get it, some things I mentioned don't make their own rates. I still dare anyone to tell a tattoo artist up front they are being paid the asking rate to do a good job

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u/Queasy_Local_7199 8h ago

Nah, I’ll wait until the piece is done.

I tip servers/bartenders because they make poverty wages and don’t set those wages

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u/Invader_Skooge22 8h ago

I've already corrected myself multiple times on that but thanks for being vigilant. If you feel so strongly that's right then why do you not say it to your artist?

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u/Truffleshuffle_19 8h ago

Servers and tattoo artists aren’t remotely comparable

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u/Invader_Skooge22 8h ago edited 8h ago

Okay so edit the parameters and just go get tattoos and haircuts while saying that upfront, then film the doc, equal Trainwreck scenario still. Would you tell your artists upfront "to make this clear, I'm paying you only what you asked for to do a good job" ????

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u/Dragonnstuff 8h ago

Servers do not set their own rates

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u/Invader_Skooge22 8h ago

Fair point, but challenge still stands. Go tell tattoo artists and a barber/stylist that upfront, go to 6 different tattoo shops and try it, and come back to us on how it goes. Same challenge adjusted statement. Better?

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u/Dragonnstuff 8h ago

Really sending them on an odyssey there

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u/Invader_Skooge22 8h ago

I'm just saying that mentality isn't very smart when you're dealing with people permanently marking your body especially. Give it a try though and feel free to prove me wrong

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u/Dragonnstuff 8h ago

What’s the point in even mentioning this?

Scary, they purposefully can mess up something you paid them to do at a price they asked for.

Them having the possibility of doing this doesn’t prove any point, just that they can be spiteful

What are you trying to accomplish by saying this?

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u/Invader_Skooge22 8h ago

In a business transaction, it shows integrity to disclose the payment. When you already decided to not tip someone who you know expects one by industry standard, it seems like you're operating on different expectations than them.

Not to mention, people with multiple tattoos usually go to the same artist when they find one they like that does good work. If you're gonna build a relationship with an artist like that you should tell them you never plan on tipping them. Otherwise, if you only want one tattoo or like looking for a new artist every time and have no integrity than not disclosing probably doesn't matter to you

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u/Dragonnstuff 8h ago edited 8h ago

“They expect a tip as is standard, you seem to be on a different standard”

That’s your first paragraph. Obviously? The point is about the ideal, what things should be. If they don’t like it, they can simply not continue with the transaction. It’s a criticism of the standard, the standard isn’t an immutable law of reality.

On your point about multiple tattoos and relationships, that’s a separate point which is obviously not being referred to here.

A tip would serve a different purpose, which has value in itself. This doesn’t apply to what is being talked about.

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u/PM_ME_CUTE_SMILES_ 6h ago

... Americans tip their hair sylists too?? Man the tip culture sounds so annoying lol

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u/Independent_Plum6618 9h ago

Oh idk i saw a lot of them seeing 2 dollars as even more offensive than not getting any tip at all

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u/LaRreinaa 9h ago

Tipping is a socially nightmare because I never know when my tip is too big or small for haircuts or something. Such a big pain in the ass

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u/An0nym0ouse 8h ago

Tipping culture needs to die. In all forms especially the US where tipping is basically you paying someones wage instead of their god damn employer.

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u/DroidOnPC 7h ago

It kind of sounds like it will die.

If Gen Z isn't tipping and complaining online about it, Gen Alpha will follow, and then both of those will raise kids not to tip.

But its gonna be awkward when the jobs that expect tips are all filled in by those generations that decided to end tipping.

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u/An0nym0ouse 7h ago

I hope itll work because tipping culture is a plague and we gotta start somewhere if we wanna fix all the shit wrong with the world 😭

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u/goodolarchie 5h ago

It also needs to die because it makes financial planning difficult, for both the tipped and the tippers. In Germany there is a tradition called Trinkgeld, "drinking gold", like tipping a service worker a beer for their day. But if people are depending on raking an extra 20-50% of their wage off the top to make rent or make another financial end meet, that creates grounds for animosity rather than gratitude.

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u/perton 3h ago

Oh, it’s even worse than 20-50% in the US, at least in some lines of work. For example, if you’re a waiter or a bartender, your tips are making up the vast, vast majority of your income, not just a portion or half of it. Shit’s wild.

That said, this is also why people working those jobs are pretty against getting rid of tipping, because they know that these businesses will absolutely never pay them the amount of money they’re getting from tips.

Source: I’ve been friends with a ton of people working service industries over the years who would absolutely lose their shit if we did away with tipping. Personally I still think tipping needs to go, just offering a bit of additional perspective as to how fucked the whole thing is.

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u/angiosperms- 8h ago

You never know because it varies from person to person. People pretending there is specific tipping etiquette are liars. Along with so many other social norms. Just tell me what you want from me

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u/Positive_Bee9776 8h ago

My coach used to say "good job" with a smack on the ass.....maybe we should just go back to that.

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u/Redhood_905 8h ago

My coach got arrested for the way he would tell us good job 😢

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u/ResponsibleTicket50 8h ago

My coach used to say good job, I got you a present, then proceed to fart hard as fuck.

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u/CapitalExes 9h ago

Good job? For a tattoo artist?!?!? I think the fucking bare minimum expectations for a permanent body change should be a good job. Don’t forget to tip your doctors and surgeons!

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u/Argon847 4h ago

I've tipped my artists who went above and beyond.

My main artist is based in Canada and I came from NY to get 3 days of work done back to back. Day 1, power went out in the shop. She jerryrigged a light stand with a tripod and flashlight and made it work instead of canceling on me since I traveled so far. She was the ONLY one in the shop and everyone else rescheduled. For tattoos 2 and 3, we were the first ones in the shop and last ones out the door; she worked substantially longer and later than she normally would so I could go back home with completed work, even though realistically she was exhausted and we could have easily done 2 more sessions.

She got tipped. I wanted her to know that her going out of her way for me past what she typically would was appreciated. Because I was so grateful, she also let me book my next appointments WAY outside of her normal window and without a deposit.

My other artist was coming from out of state to NY and squeezed two sessions into one day essentially. She also got tipped for staying till nearly midnight so I could have finished art instead of being half done for the next year.

The "good job" wasn't the quality of art; is was being so accommodating past their standard treatment.

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u/dunealien 8h ago

hense setting your own price...

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u/double_shadow 8h ago

What?! I've got some news for you about shitty mechanics...

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u/SnowedAndStowed 6h ago

Do you tip your surgeon?

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u/sprogger 5h ago

And they set their prices with that in mind.

Someone who has only been tattooing for a year may only charge 70 per hour where as someone with 29 years experience will charge triple that.

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u/WolfgangAddams 8h ago

No idea why you had a downvote when I got here. You're just stating facts.

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u/Dawn_of_an_Era 9h ago

Yeah they do, but doing a good job is the expectation. If you do a bad job, I’m not paying you

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u/stopsallover 8h ago

We need more of this.

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u/I_SNAIL_I 9h ago

So by that logic if you pay them the price they want they can fuck up everything because it is not a price for a good job for them?

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u/OsamaBinWhiskers 8h ago

2 dollar tip would get you doxxed into oblivion. You’d be better off not tipping lol people cry so hard about it lol

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u/awkwardinthebody 9h ago

Should I also tip cashiers and bus drivers?

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u/Milknpeaches 4h ago

As crazy as this is, I DID get tips as a cashier. Usually from older adults. It was always because I took special care in getting them through the checkout line quickly and bagging their stuff in the way they prefer (double bagging, no mixing food/chemicals, making sure bags aren’t heavy, etc.).

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u/MattGold_ Lurker 9h ago

Im not into tipping culture but this comment is fucking stupid

Tattoo artists, barbers, stylists, servers, and delivery drivers (to name a few) personally serve you. Drivers and cashiers dont.

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u/awkwardinthebody 8h ago

No need to be agressive. Maybe a Xanax could help you?

Idk in my country barbers and hair stylists set their prices and waiters get paid a wage similar to anyone else in the food industry so we don't tip at all. The whole tipping culture sounds just absurd

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u/MattGold_ Lurker 8h ago

Like the original comment said, tips are a way to say good job, something like 'i really like and appreciate your work and what you did to/for me, here's extra to show my gratitude'

Im not from the states and tipping culture is fucking stupid just like comment that i replied to

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u/FrostyD7 8h ago

If you think they don't personally serve you, then you've never been to Aldi to see their cashiers huck your things into the cart the last victim left behind.

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u/MattGold_ Lurker 8h ago

They literally dont, they do what their directive is, not what you ask of them

You dont go to a bus driver and tell them 'hey bring me to this place', you fucking get off when the bus goes to that place or goes to a place close to it.

You dont go up to a cashier and give them your shopping list and theyll go get it for you, you get it yourself and they punch it into the system for you to pay.

The rest of the jobs i mentioned? You ask for a specific haircut, some artwork you want on your skin, the food you want to eat, thats what i fucking mean by personally

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u/FrostyD7 8h ago

They bag your groceries and sometimes they even do a good job at it. If you don't think this is a service then I don't know what to tell you. There's a right and wrong way to do it. They are doing it, you aren't. What other qualifications are needed? I'm not advocating for tipping cashiers but your line in the sand isn't as clear as you think it is.

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u/MattGold_ Lurker 7h ago

Holy shit what part of the definition of PERSONALLY did you not fucking understand

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u/FrostyD7 7h ago

I explained it pretty clearly why they are doing a service to you personally. Those are your groceries. They are bagging them. They can half ass it and do a slow and poor job. Bleach with the food. Frozen food not grouped together. I'd describe that as poor service that would have an impact on you personally.

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u/Large_Yams 2h ago

Doing a good job is the minimum. If it's not a good job I won't come back.

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u/FireflyBSc 8h ago

I tip people who do work on my body. Their fee is what it costs to do that work, and then the tip is me investing in retaining that relationship because they do good work. Like yeah I could just find a masseuse or new hair dresser if the cost were the issue, but as a regular, I like these specific people and I’m bidding for them to keep space for me in their books.