r/masseffect • • 4h ago

DISCUSSION Does anyone think there will be a movement like we saw with Destiny?

Is there still a large enough player base/fan base left to try and push EA to do something with Mass Effect(and Bioware) or has too much time passed form the last game. I kind of think that Destiny still had a large active player base, which created a large and active push back to Bungie and Sony. Mass Effect has a large fan base, but since most are not actively playing Mass Effect will we see as large of a push.

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u/_you_need_jesus_ 3h ago

Can't really compare the 2.

Destiny 2 is an already established money printer that Bungie committed to making more updates for.

Mass Effect 5 is a an unfinished game that wasnt even guaranteed to make a profit (dare i say unlikely) after Biowares recent history of putting out flops.

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u/irishlizard44 3h ago

Bungie and Sony did stop supporting destiny 2, for awhile. And while Destiny 2 did make a lot of money it could not outrun bungie’s expenses. Still has not proven it will earn more than it currently costs to run Bungie. Bungie and Sony don’t have any other option. And I was not trying to compare the 2 as the type of game other than both have dedicated fan bases.

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u/Enzown 1h ago

But Destiny 2 already exists, Mass Effect 5 is one trailer from years ago and a few notes in word doc.

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u/irishlizard44 1h ago

Mass Effect as a franchise exists. It's a known popular IP with a large fanbase. While Destiny 2 is currently supported, it is in a similar boat. What are they currently going to make money from? All cosmetics are free to earn with the last update. The future unvaulted content will be free with no current eta of actual new content that could make them money. And again, I was asking if anyone thinks there is going to be a online push to save Mass Effect similar to what we saw Destiny. If its successful or not is not what I was asking.

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u/GarageFridgeSoda 3h ago

To do what?

The team that made the trilogy is gone and has been for years.

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u/HugeNavi 3h ago

Not only that, the Mass Effect fanbase has shrunk to equal or lower numbers than the DA fanbase, and that IP was dead before Mass Effect. The time for revival for this IP has stalled too much, we don't have the numbers, and we're only going to grow smaller and less relevant. We have no traction, no studio, a publisher that will need to invest hundreds of million on a deprecated IP just to revive it, whereas Destiny was not at its healthiest, but it had a fanbase that came back to support it, is still active, still has a game that you can actually log in and play, we have 2 dead MP games and a remaster of a trilogy that ended kinda as well as Dragon Age ended. We're dead in the water. We have nothing to rally around.

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u/Mindless-Depth-1795 2h ago

In addition to this Bioware as a brand is effectively dead. There was a time the Bioware name would instantly sell games but decades of mismanagement, anti-consumer practices, bloated budgets, development hell and various game design fumbles have chipped away at what that studio is worth as a brand.

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u/irishlizard44 3h ago

The “what” is not what I was talking about. Make mass effect 4/5 or start with a new story under a new studio. Does not really matter to me. I was asking if the fanbase will try and push like destiny’s player base.

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u/unsure_squid 3h ago

Probably not, due to the insane level of debt EA got slapped with during their buyout they will be looking at making the most money they can through live service games. The best we can hope for is people stop buying their games and more importantly don't pay for any microtransactions to force them to reconsider their priorities.

Unfortunately they also employ an "IP vault" mentality and to my knowledge have never sold a single IP they own...

I wish I had a more positive outlook on this but it is just another studio shuttered because of EA and their somewhat confusing standards

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u/irishlizard44 2h ago

That’s true, but they now have nearly 10x the debt they had just a few months ago. They have never sold their ip’s but if they can’t make the loan payments on time…I wonder if they will change their minds on that rule. But I recognize that there some hopium in that thought process.

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u/Mindless-Depth-1795 3h ago

No. It is a very different situation. This is a full studio closure not an attempt to pivot dev support from one current live service game to a different live service game.

I feel bad for the employees and the best we can hope for is that they find jobs elsewhere with minimum stress.

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u/irishlizard44 3h ago

I was not looking at the reasons, as both are different. more what the fanbase reaction will do, if anything.

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u/Mindless-Depth-1795 3h ago

It will do nothing because the situation is completely different.

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u/irishlizard44 1h ago

I was not asking if it will be successful or force EA to do anything, I was asking if people think we will see a push online similar to what we saw with Destiny.

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u/Trizzleyomizzle 2h ago

No and i hope it doesn't. The best outcome is either for the IP to enter an indie devs hands, or a spiritual successor or similar size and scope appears.