r/masseffect • u/Loczx • 10h ago
MASS EFFECT 2 Holy crap, I did not expect both Paragon/Renegade options to go this hard
First three are the Renegade interrupt, last three are the paragon (and a bonus slide in-between for Liara's side eye).
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u/revan530 10h ago
The Paragon one is also so great because we know Shepard is absolutely bluffing. A Paragon Shepard would never purposely harm the hostage. But this shows exactly why Shepard can clean out Kenneth and Gabby at poker, lol.
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u/Loczx 9h ago
I feel like Paragon and Renegade Shepard both do exist within Shepard in a way, even if your Shep is fully Paragon/Renegade in the sense that they're both variations of they're personality. This dialogue also phrases it very well, Paragon Shep is the charismatic 'good' guy, but he is technically also someone who did cause a few messes along the way which I love
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u/Poonchow 22m ago
Yes, I've always maintained that Shepard's "personality" - as much as a player insert they are - basically boils down to these two extremes.
In every situation Shepard has both Paragon and Renegade thoughts / decisions going through their head at any given time.
I blame the Beacon on Eden Prime. It turned Shepard into something a schizo lol. Or more seriously, the Beacon is trying to interface with a Prothean so it sort of "shoved" some Prothean qualities onto Shepard. We're asleep for at least 15 hours after that mission, which is eons in military terms.
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u/Hinaloth 2h ago
Paragon Shep would shoot through the hostage if needed, making sure the wound on them is non-lethal.
Also that hostage covers nothing, that shot is still wide open.
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u/sarcasticd0nkey 10h ago
Liara: "Babe, what the fuck?"
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u/morbid333 10h ago
Tali: "First time?"
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u/Loczx 9h ago
Shep does the same with Tali?
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u/sarcasticd0nkey 9h ago
On Tuchunka Shep can call the injured krogan scout as weak as a quarian
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u/CortaNalgas 9h ago
You can take her on Mordin's loyalty mission, where Shepard can tell the captured Urdnot Scout that he's whining like a Quarian with a tummyache: "Shephard, I'm standing right here."
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u/morbid333 9h ago
On Mordin's loyalty mission with that Krogan scout. The renegade option is to goad and provoke him, saying something like he sounds like a Quarian with a tummy ache. Then if Tali's in the squad she says something like "I'm right here."
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u/Hopeful-Occasion2299 8h ago
I mean, doesn't she get a terrible infection just by making out? It was just facts
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u/Eastern_Fig_3161 10h ago
Last time i was farming renegade points and only the red dialogue option was available while the blue one was not. Needless to say, i had to shoot the hostage so as to not insult my wife with the reneg dialogue.
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u/Alarming-Put-9003 10h ago
God Lair of the Shadowbroker is so peak.
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u/c4gam1ng 10h ago
If only your second squad mate had a single line of dialogue. Especially someone like Garrus or Tali who were crew mates with Liara in ME1.
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u/Loczx 9h ago
I noticed that half way through, I was rolling with my original guys from ME1 (Garrus and Tali) but none of them even said a word to Liara which I found odd, but I guess that's just DLC things.
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u/Alarming-Put-9003 9h ago
It is super annoying. And definitely something 3 does better over 2.
I’m a Shepard/Liara shipper through and through so this DLC hits like crack for me. But even outside of that the story and gameplay are some of the best the trilogy has to offer.
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u/N7Templar Renegade 9h ago
Yeah I figured it was just too much for them to get every VA back for the dlc.
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u/KTM_2813 9h ago
This is a bit of a recurring thing with ME2 DLC, something they did a much better job of with ME3 DLC.
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u/aSensibleUsername 9h ago
Aye, the second squadmate being mute third wheel on most of the loyalty and dlc missions was a shame, considering how big the squad roster is athe potential for dialogue.
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u/Heather_Chandelure 6h ago
Technically it was also a thing with ME1 DLC, though the nature of that games DLC missions made it not much of an issue there.
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u/L34dP1LL 7h ago
That's why Sur'Kesh is one of my favorite missions. Liara and Garrus as squaddies, and Wrex over the comms was banter galore.
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u/Ivory_Lake 6h ago
bringing Garrus and watching him get owned by a desk in the boss fight, is one of the unintentionally funniest moments in the franchise.
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u/bluedeer10 9h ago
You missed the best one:
"You're forgetting something, Vasir?. I'm a Spectre too". <shoots the hostage in the arm and therefore Vasir>
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u/oops_I_have_h1n1 7h ago
This is my favorite option too. No bluffing, no tricks, just a Spectre showing you how he gets the job done.
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u/Arrynek 9h ago
Goddamn I love these games...
Fine! I will play them again. You won!
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u/Loczx 9h ago
If you're on PC, I heavily recommend grabbing some mods for a replay! They've streamlined the experience so much for me
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u/Arrynek 9h ago
GPT Astra is currently controlling my computer and installing all recommended visual mods.
Never used any before. So, curious to see what it is like.
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u/Loczx 6h ago
I would say don't go TOO overboard, as some things can get buggy. Can't speak for ME3 yet, ME2 has been relatively stable except for a crash at the start (and having to remove some modes like combat evasion because it kept sending squaddies out of cover), but ME1 had consistent random crashes for reasons I couldn't figure out, so I just finished the game with them.
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u/HomeMedium1659 9h ago
Meanwhile, I just shot the hostage. The words just get in the way. Why talk about it instead of just doing it.
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u/Give_me_kerosene 6h ago
Ngl as a Renegade for life player some of those Paragon options got me respecting y'all a lot more. Like cold af
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u/Blitzkrieg1210 Shepard 8h ago
This is exactly how every dialogue choice should be, NO MORE BLAND DIALOGUE CHOICES!
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u/kayl_the_red 1h ago
I love the Renegade Interrupt. It's almost the same as telling her to lay down because she doesn't even have a nametag.
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u/Xilizhra 9h ago
Renegade Shepard is such a piece of trash.
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u/Poonchow 10h ago
If you saved the Ascension, the Paragon interrupt is about sacrificing Alliance soldiers to save it, so equally pretty hard IMO
And Liara rolling her eyes is hilarious every time lol