r/hardware • u/-protonsandneutrons- • 2d ago
Review Notebookcheck | Microsoft Surface Laptop Ultra RTX Spark Review - The 2000-nits Mini-LED panel is a problem
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Microsoft-Surface-Laptop-Ultra-RTX-Spark-Review-The-2000-nits-Mini-LED-panel-is-a-problem.1426103.0.html45
u/Acrobatic-Monitor516 2d ago
has to be a bug. miniled with no LD is idiotic
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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 2d ago
Wait what the hell.
Did LG make this or something like false advertising fake mini LED?
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u/Appropriate_Ad8734 2d ago
it’s not lg’s decision. microsoft designed and decided on those specs
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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 1d ago
I wasn't being serious about LG I should have specified that I'm just taking the piss because they are infamous for making the worst LCDs on the market they make really good oleds but they make absolutely horrific LCDs like they are the worst on the market and it's not even close
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u/Appropriate_Ad8734 1d ago
gotcha. lg has simultaneously some of the best and worst screens on the market. they can probably call that high dynamic range
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u/ADreamOfRain 1d ago
I can confirm. My Lenovo monitor has an LG panel and its contrast is horrific.
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u/varateshh 1d ago
I assume that is because they have had LCD production in China for ages and in 2024 sold their last Chinese factory. Now they purchase all LCD panels from Chinese companies.
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u/Shoddy_Meaning_7654 1d ago
Nah they sucked even in the early 2010s they made the worst LCDs and plasmas in the world.
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u/junglebunglerumble 1d ago
Pretty sure this is a bug. Other reviewers have said it does have dimming zones
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u/mcslender97 1d ago
But why tho? Single zone mini led for sth this premium?
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u/jhenryscott 1d ago
Because Microsoft is a make work program for engineers and product managers who can’t hang
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u/dropthemagic 2d ago
Typical Microsoft hardware trash. Not surprised really
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u/Iron_Maniac 2d ago
Hasn't Microsofts hardware typically been pretty good? What have they put out that'd be considered trash?
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u/mrheosuper 2d ago
The sf pro4 with self destructing display.
Surface book with problematic base.
Sf laptop 1/2 that basically you have to destroy it if you want to replace battery.
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u/rafalkopiec 1d ago
they had such a good thing going with the surface book, if only they improved it further and allowed for upgrading base/display seperately…
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u/Alive_Wedding 1d ago
The entire Surface tablet series was largely unusable junk that runs out of battery in 2 to 3 hours
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u/momentsandlyf 1d ago
Not worth it, don't support, not a mac fan but pricing wise it is better for AI work.
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u/-protonsandneutrons- 2d ago edited 2d ago
Measured from the AC side, idle power consumption:
6.7 W idle @ minimum brightness, no WLAN / BT, efficiency power mode
22.7 W idle @ max brightness, no WLAN / BT, balanced power mode
24.0 W idle @ max brightness, WLAN / BT, best performance power mode
Of course, max brightness puts out an eye-searing 1,000 nits.
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With the larger iGPU + 48 GB RAM + 2 TB SSD, this is not much cheaper than a 16" MBP with the 40C M5 Max + 48GB RAM + 2 TB SSD: I think ~10% cheaper? But the MBP 16 M5 Max has massively faster CPU + much longer Wi-Fi battery life + cooler temps + somehow much faster in Cyberpunk 2077.
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The other interesting thing, this is the first generic Arm Cortex-X CPU on Windows in a long time. Despite being two generations old (X925 - 2024 → C1 Ultra - 2025 → C2 Ultra - 2026) and at ~4.1 GHz, it matches or beats the fastest Panther Lake and Zen 5 SKUs in 1T perf, depending on the test. But still significantly, quite far behind Qualcomm and Apple on the Arm side.
From Notebookcheck's database, max scores:
Unfortunately, NBC doesn't have the updated AMD 495+, so I included the HX series, too, but they don't have GB7 scores for that one yet. And the X2EE 96 has the same 1T clocks as the X2EE 90 (using NBC's own laptop test results). The problem is Qualcomm CPUs are much faster and on the x86 side, Nova Lake and Zen 6 are a few quarters away at most and the idle power of the N1 series, at least from the laptop side, is atrociously high. Apple is relaxing in another zip code.