r/Fire • • 16h ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Wednesday, October 21, 2026

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This is a relaxed hangout thread for the FIRE community to chat with other FIRE-minded folks without having to publish separate posts. This is the place for brand new people to get their feet wet as well as for lurkers who have questions or comments, but do not want to create posts of their own.

All of the sub rules apply in this thread as normal with the exception of the off-topic rule, which is relaxed to the extent that people don't go wildly off of the reservation.

We are putting this up as a trial to see if it is worth keeping this as a permanent feature of the sub. Participation is entirely voluntary and anyone who wants to create a separate post of their own rather than posting in here is free to do so.


r/Fire • • 2d ago

Weekly ACA 2027 Open Enrollment FAQ/Megathread (Week 2) - Please feel free to ask all questions, share your experiences/results/resources, and discuss the ACA in general. ACA posting outside of this thread is also fine.

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This Megathread is a communal resource for all things ACA during the 2027 open enrollment period. Although open enrollment doesn't start in most states until November 1st, Idaho opened up their exchange on October 15th and CT/MA follow this week on October 23rd, hence this going up a bit early for most of us. Can't have our Idahoans, Nutmeggers, and Bay Staters left out in the cold waiting for the rest of us to catch up.

Please feel free to ask all questions, share your experiences, discuss the ACA in general, ask for help with pricing or MAGI optimization, and everything else ACA-related. However, everyone is also free to make their own posts if they prefer, so please do not tell people that they must come here to discuss the ACA. If anyone has a suggestion for something to add to the post or edits/corrections, then absolutely feel free to share publicly or via DM/modmail.

Please remember that there are state variations, information is subject to change, and you should independently verify any information upon which you are going to make any meaningful decisions. I am purely an experienced amateur and do not offer any fiduciary duty or legal expertise.

TERMS

Terms for those that are unfamiliar:

  • MAGI - Modified Adjusted Gross Income, a particular version of adjusted gross income used by the ACA.
  • APTC - Advanced Premium Tax Credit, an advanceable and fully refundable federal income tax credit that reduces ACA premiums, known by most simply as ACA subsidies.
  • EPC - Expected Premium Contribution, the amount customers are expected to pay annually for the Silver benchmark ACA plan in their market. APTCs are calculated as the market price of the benchmark plan minus EPC.
  • FPL - Federal Poverty Level, a measure used by the federal government as a determinant in many policy systems.
  • MaxOOP - Maximum Out of Pocket, the most a customer can be asked to pay in out of pocket expenses for in-network covered benefits by an insurer in a given year. This includes deductibles, copays, and coinsurance, but excludes premiums.
  • CSR - Cost Sharing Reductions, the second subsidy system within the ACA that reduces out of pocket expenses like deductibles, copays/coinsurance, and MaxOOP.
  • AI/AN - American Indian / Alaskan Native
  • AV - Actuarial Value, the percentage of total average costs for covered medical benefits that a health insurance plan is expected to cover for a standard population. For example, if a plan has an 80% AV, the insurer pays 80% of average expenses, and customers pay 20% through deductibles, copays, and coinsurance.

FAQ


Q: What are the dates for open enrollment this year?

A: Most states will have open enrollment between November 1st and January 15th, with December 15th as the last day to enroll in order to have coverage active starting on January 1st. Enrollments after that date will have coverage active starting on February 1st. States that differ from the default dates are listed below. Please note that dates are subject to change.

Pro-tip - Apply early! You can change your plan selection before the enrollment deadline if you change your mind.

State 2027 Open Enrollment Enroll for 1/1/27 Coverage Enroll for 2/1/27 Coverage
California 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/31/26 1/31/27
Connecticut 10/23/26 – 1/15/27 12/15/26 1/15/27
District of Columbia 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/15/26 1/31/27
Idaho 10/15/26 – 12/15/26 12/15/26 N/A
Maryland 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/31/26 1/15/27
Massachusetts 10/23/26 – 1/23/27 12/23/26 1/23/27
Nevada 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/31/26 1/15/27
New Jersey 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/31/26 1/31/27
New Mexico 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/31/26 1/15/27
New York 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/15/26 1/31/27
Oregon 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/15/26 1/15/27
Rhode Island 11/1/26 – 1/31/27 12/31/26 1/31/27
Vermont 11/1/26 – 12/28/26 12/15/26 12/28/26
Virginia 11/1/26 – 1/29/27 12/15/26 1/29/27
Washington 11/1/26 – 1/15/27 12/15/26 1/15/27

Q: What are the qualifying income limits for ACA subsidies?

A: MAGI between 100% FPL and 400% FPL in states that did not expand Medicaid and MAGI between 138% FPL and 400% FPL in most states that did expand Medicaid. Note that MAGI between 100% FPL and 138% FPL in expansion Medicaid states is still qualifying for ACA subsidies, but only if you have been denied for Medicaid. Some state variations do exist due to localized Medicaid rules and things like Basic Health Plans, so be sure to validate the relevant income limits in your state.


Q: What is MAGI?

A: Modified Adjusted Gross Income. ACA MAGI is your 1040 AGI (line 11) plus a few untaxed/excluded income sources (untaxed SS benefits excluding SSI [1040 line 6a minus line 6b], untaxed foreign excluded income and housing benefits [Form 2555], and tax-exempt interest [1040 line 2a]).

Details can be found here - https://www.healthcare.gov/income-and-household-information/income/


Q: Can I do anything to change my MAGI?

A: The rules are pretty simple in terms of MAGI control, but the mix of cashflows is always unique for each household's particular circumstances.

  • Roth conversions generate MAGI without withdrawal/spending.

  • TIRA withdrawals generate MAGI and provide cash for spending.

  • Roth contribution basis, matured Roth conversion basis, HSA, margin/credit, and cash equivalents provide withdrawal/spending without generating MAGI.

  • Taxable sales generate MAGI only via cap gains and can be a nice source of non-MAGI funds depending on one's cost basis. Sell $100K in stock with $40K cost basis and you have $100K to spend and $60K in MAGI.

  • HSA contributions do not require earned income and reduce MAGI.

Mix and match retirement cashflows to get whatever combo of MAGI and spending you want.

Anyone in here with a good mix of assets can use cashflows from various assets to generate a wide array of MAGI and spending combinations. For example, if you sell $150K in stock with an $80K cost basis, then you get $150K in spending cashflow and $70K in MAGI. Pull $50K a year in untaxed Roth withdrawals and you get $50K in spending cashflow and $0K in MAGI. FIRE folks are notorious for our aggressive use of tax optimization techniques, so our ability to separate MAGI and spending in retirement is generally pretty good.

For those using the ACA while working, TIRA and T401k contributions reduce MAGI. For those without earned income, HSA contributions reduce MAGI.


Q: Our MAGI is just slightly over the master cliff at 400% FPL. Is there anything we can do to regain subsidy eligibility?

A: If an HSA is not already in use, then using one can effectively extend the master cliff to between ~430% to ~450% FPL. HSA contributions reduce MAGI and do not require earned income, meaning retired households can still make them. The actual HSA contribution limits end up being equivalent to somewhere between 30% and 50% of FPL for single/couple households, depending on age.

The below example uses real numbers for 2026 national average premiums and subsidy calcs for illustration purposes. True numbers for a specific household will vary by location, household demographics, and MAGI.

If a 55-year-old couple currently has MAGI of $90K (~426% FPL), then they are ineligible for premium subsidies. If they want a Bronze policy, then they have two options.

Option 1: Pay full market price for a Bronze policy. For 2026 the national average for least expensive Bronze policy is $19K.

Option 2: Commit to contributing $8K to the HSA that any Bronze policy makes them eligible for, which allows them to reduce their MAGI estimate to $82K (388% FPL). This restores their subsidy eligibility and they become eligible to receive nearly $18K in premium subsidies, leaving them responsible for $1K in premiums on their Bronze policy.

In option 1 they pay $19K for a Bronze policy.

In option 2 they pay $1K for the same Bronze policy, the feds pick up the other $18K in premiums, the couple sets aside $8K in an HSA to use as they wish, and they keep the remaining $10K for whatever they want.

Most people have no idea how lovely the universal Bronze HSA eligibility change made last year by the OBBBA is for many FIRE'd households. It can be a massive win for people just over the cliff.


Q: What happens if my MAGI estimate is off?

A: ACA premium subsidies are reconciled on your tax return the following year. If you got subsidies you shouldn't have, then you pay them back. If you didn't get subsidies that you should have, then you get them as a tax refund. ACA cost-sharing reductions are not reconciled. What you get when you apply is what you get. There is no refund or recapture on CSRs.


Q: Can anyone have an HSA?

A: No, you need to have an HSA-eligible policy to contribute to an HSA, but all Bronzes and Catastrophic policies are HSA-eligible by default. The 2027 contribution limits for HSAs are $4,500 for a single, $9,000 for a family, and each adult 55 and up can make an additional $1,000 catch-up contribution.

Source: https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-26-24.pdf


Q: What is FPL?

A: Federal Poverty Level. It is flat in the lower 48 states and slightly higher in Alaska and Hawaii. The ACA uses prior-year FPL, so 2027 coverage will use 2026 FPL, which can be found here - https://aspe.hhs.gov/sites/default/files/documents/b1bfa16b20ae9b89d525bc35de7c1643/detailed-guidelines-2026.pdf


Q: Where can I go to see the prices and policies offered in my area next year?

A: 2027 prices will be available on the federal exchange sometime in the final week of October. Anyone will be able to see 2027 prices and plans in their area with some anonymous data (age/zip/income) in about three minutes at https://www.healthcare.gov/see-plans/#/. If you have a local state-run exchange, then you'll be redirected to the appropriate website. 2027 prices on the state exchanges will be available on a rolling basis soon, but they usually come out earlier than the federal exchange.


Q: What happens if I miss open enrollment?

A: Applications after open enrollment ends will only be possible for those that qualify for a Special Enrollment Period. For SEP details see here - https://www.healthcare.gov/coverage-outside-open-enrollment/special-enrollment-period/


Q: How are subsidies calculated?

A: Subsidies are calculated by taking the unsubsidized market premium of the benchmark plan in your county, which is the second lowest cost Silver plan, and subtracting your expected premium contribution (EPC). Any remainder is your subsidy amount. Once your subsidy is calculated you are free to use it on any plan you choose in any metal tier. If you choose a policy with an unsubsidized premium lower than your subsidy amount, which is common for Bronzes and in some states/counties also happens with Golds, then you owe no premium for your policy. Excess unused subsidy value is lost and not refunded to you.


Q: How do I determine my expected premium contribution?

A: EPC is calculated as a percentage of your 2027 MAGI, which you estimate at the time of application. The following is the 2027 EPC table:

Expected Premium Contribution (Coverage Year 2027)

MAGI (% of FPL) 2027 EPC (% of MAGI) 2026 EPC (% of MAGI) Change from 2026
Less than 100% No limit / unsubsidized No limit / unsubsidized N/A
100% to <133% 2.15% 2.10% +2.4%
133% to <150% 3.23% to 4.3% 3.14% to 4.19% +2.9%
150% to <200% 4.3% to 6.78% 4.19% to 6.60% +2.6%
200% to <250% 6.78% to 8.66% 6.60% to 8.44% +2.7%
250% to <300% 8.66% to 10.22% 8.44% to 9.96% +2.6%
300% to 400% 10.22% 9.96% +2.6%
More than 400% No limit / unsubsidized No limit / unsubsidized N/A

Source:

https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-drop/rp-26-26.pdf

KFF has an excellent calculator (not updated yet for 2027 prices) that will tell you your exact subsidy amount in seconds, find it here - https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/


Q: What are the limits next year on MaxOOP and deductibles? Does it vary by metal tier?

A: MaxOOP has a regulated legal maximum that applies to all ACA and employer-sponsored plans. It is the same for all policies sold in the US with the exception of CSR Silver plans. Deductibles can be as high as MaxOOP, but can not exceed it. The following is the 2027 MaxOOP table:

Out-Of-Pocket Maximum (Coverage Year 2027)

Plan Type MAGI Level 2027 Individual / Family MaxOOP 2026 Individual / Family MaxOOP Change from 2026
All non-CSR Plans All $12,000 / $24,000 $10,600 / $21,200 +13.2%
CSR Silver Plan 73% AV 200% to 250% FPL $9,600 / $19,200 $8,450 / $16,900 +13.6%
CSR Silver Plan 87% AV 150% to 200% FPL $4,000 / $8,000 $3,500 / $7,000 +14.3%
CSR Silver Plan 94% AV Up to 150% FPL $4,000 / $8,000 $3,500 / $7,000 +14.3%
CSR Silver Plan 99% AI/AN AV AI/AN Up to 300% FPL $0 $0 N/A

Source: https://www.cms.gov/files/document/2027-papi-parameters-guidance-2026-01-29.pdf


Q: What is a CSR Silver?

A: There are two ACA subsidy systems, the premium tax credits (PTCs) that offset premium costs and the cost-sharing reductions (CSRs) that offset non-premium costs like deductibles, copays/coinsurance, and MaxOOP. CSRs are only offered to people with MAGI of 250% FPL or less and are most meaningful for those with MAGI of 200% FPL or less. CSRs can be worth more in value than PTCs, but CSRs only offset costs when you actually use your health insurance, so their value depends entirely on actual utilization of healthcare. Note that the table above only shows the maximum allowed MaxOOP for CSR plans, but actual MaxOOP is often significantly lower. For example, there will be CSR Silver 94s next year with MaxOOP well under $2,000. The exact value varies for each individual policy.


Q: What are the metal tiers and how can I get one of those CSR Silvers?

A: The metal tiers are defined by their actuarial value (AV), which broadly speaking means what share of all covered healthcare expenses they should pay for the risk pool. Bronze is 60% AV, Silver is 70% AV, Gold is 80% AV, Platinum is 90% AV.

The CSRs create three hidden tiers of Silvers for those that qualify for them based on MAGI at FPL steps 150%/200%/250%, which are 94% AV (better than Platinum), 87% AV (almost Platinum), and 73% AV (minimal). Anyone over 250% FPL sees the default non-CSR Silver at 70% AV. There is also a fourth hidden Silver tier that is reserved exclusively for officially recognized North American Native Americans.

When you log on to the exchange and enter your MAGI they only show you the Silver tier you are entitled to see and buy. This is why one person can love their Silver policy with a $0 deductible and $1,200 MaxOOP and another person with the seemingly exact same Silver policy can think it is crappy with a $6,000 deductible and a $9,000 MaxOOP. The first person has the 94% AV variant and the second person has the 70% AV variant.


Q: Is there an example of how CSRs impact a policy?

A: My household qualifies for a CSR Silver 94 in 2026. The following are actual coverage costs for our policy with CSRs and without.

Our 2026 Silver plan with cost-sharing reductions:

  • $0/$0 deductible (individual/family)
  • $0 PCP
  • $10 specialist
  • $5 urgent care
  • $0/$15 tier1/tier2 scripts
  • 25% ER coinsurance
  • $2,200/$4,400 MaxOOP (individual/family)

Our 2026 Silver plan without cost-sharing reductions:

  • $6,000/$12,000 deductible (individual/family)
  • $40 PCP
  • $80 specialist
  • $60 urgent care
  • $20/$40 tier1/tier2 scripts
  • 40% ER coinsurance
  • $8,900/$17,800 MaxOOP (individual/family)

Q: If I don't qualify for CSRs, then what policy should I aim for?

A: It will vary by market, but as a general rule Silvers are routinely a poor financial choice for people with MAGI greater than 200% FPL because they are paying the Silver loading surcharge to fund the CSR subsidy system. Households with more than 200% FPL should usually look instead to a Bronze or Gold, though this is not a universal rule.


Q: What the hell is "Silver loading"?

A: There are two subsidy systems in the ACA, the premium tax credits (PTCs) that reduce monthly premiums, and the cost-sharing reductions (CSRs) that reduce/eliminate deductibles and out-of-pocket expenses for people with MAGI under 250% FPL. The federal government eliminated direct funding for the CSR subsidies in 2017, but insurers are still required by law to deliver them to customers and the cost for them is rather large and can often be greater than the PTCs for a given household. The highest tier of CSRs changes a Silver plan into one that can be significantly better than a Platinum plan.

Insurers and states largely responded to this major problem by boosting the premiums on Silver policies since that is the only metal tier in which CSRs are offered. This is what is meant by the term "Silver loading". For example, here in Texas the state has mandated that Silver premiums be priced 40% higher than what they would normally be if CSRs were not a factor. In neighboring New Mexico, they went even higher at 44%. Those premium increases push the average Silver price up dramatically, but this is generally a beneficial thing for everyone because ACA subsidies in all metal tiers are calculated off of the price of the benchmark Silver plan. The higher the benchmark Silver plan is relative to all plans, the greater premium subsidies everyone receives. The vast majority of Silver subscribers are highly to almost totally subsidized and don't care about market premium prices, so the net effect of Silver loading is to increase federal subsidies for all subsidy-eligible ACA enrollees in the state while also providing ample funding for the required CSR subsidy system. In some states like Texas this leads to some market oddities like Gold plans being lower-priced or similar to Silver plans. In some cases the subsidies are high enough that Gold plans can be had for no premium at all.

As a result of this forced boosting in Silver premiums it is generally a financially bad idea for anyone who is not in one of the higher CSR tiers (MAGI under 200% FPL) to take a Silver plan. They could get comparable coverage at a significantly lower price with a Bronze or significantly better coverage at a comparable (or slightly lower) price with a Gold. Taking a Silver with MAGI above 200% FPL generally means you are unnecessarily overpaying for coverage, often by quite a bit.


Random tip for those signing up for the first time in states with expanded Medicaid

If you are going to have lumpy retirement income rather than a consistent monthly withdrawal, then I'd recommend dividing your annual estimate by 12 rather than putting in actual monthly income. Otherwise you might find yourself automatically shunted to Medicaid and having to ping pong between the ACA and Medicaid systems. It's a well-intentioned design choice to catch as many Medicaid-eligible people as possible, but it's an annoying thing for those with incomes such that they are eligible for Medicaid by monthly MAGI and ineligible by annual MAGI.

That's assuming your annual is going to be greater than 138% FPL. If it's lower, then enjoy your expansion Medicaid instead.

Useful resource links:

Official Healthcare.gov price/policy browser (not yet updated for 2027) - https://www.healthcare.gov/see-plans/#/

Great ACA cheatsheet - https://www.healthreformbeyondthebasics.org/wp-content/uploads/2026/08/REFERENCE_YearlyGuidelines_CY2027-FINAL.pdf

KFF's excellent subsidy calculator - https://www.kff.org/interactive/subsidy-calculator/

A nice beginner's guide by /u/stevencartwright - https://reddit.com/r/Fire/comments/1vnhwpd/a_fire_beginners_guide_to_aca_health_insurance/

Excellent Open Enrollment Guide by ACASignups.net (Part 1) - https://acasignups.net/26/10/14/hobbling-towards-enrollment-my-2027-aca-open-enrollment-guide-part-1

Notice on ACASignups.net - Charles is a bit of a rabid anti-Trump partisan, but he does great ACA work. The value of the ACA information is high and merits looking past the political content, in my opinion.


r/Fire • • 11h ago

so glad i lived below my means

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got laid off in january and still haven’t found a new job. i am borderline crashing out after finishing a final interview that included a 7 hour take home assignment and in-person presentation, only to get an automated rejection after.

i’m very close to leanFIRE which isn’t the ideal time to leave corporate, but atleast it’s better than it could be.

i’ve been laid off twice in the past 2 years so i think my career is basically done.

i had another interview loop with 17 hours of interviews. it was super thorough because “they’re family” and kept adding additional interviews

i’m mostly mad at myself for taking my previous jobs way too seriously and burning myself out to the point of irreversible damage to my health for these stupid companies. and for what? it doesn’t mean shit. no one cares about us.

i might just take a year off and do a coastFIRE job for 5-7 years until i hit my FIRE number

it’s freaking frustrating but i guess atleast i have a cushion because of my frugal habits


r/Fire • • 1h ago

Advice Request When is time to tell the kids you are a millionaire?

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As a family, we have lived a typical FIRE accumulation life: modest house, unpretending somewhat old car but with some international travel since our families are not in the US. We live in a small town so there is not a strong need to show off.

Our kids, now teenagers, know we are not lacking anything but I imagine they think we are middle class based on what we show.

We do discuss money, how we came from a poor background and how important it is to invest. I showed the details of our investment on a rental property as an example.

Nevertheless, until now they did not ask ( expected) and we did not offer info on net worth.

At what age or stage in life you told them if ever about FIRE net worth and living from investments? What where your considerations to tell or not?

We are still working but not for too long.


r/Fire • • 14h ago

Milestone / Celebration Had to move the goalposts

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We started seriously saving for retirement a little over a decade ago. Last month, we hit the number we used to think of as the finish line!

Life has thrown some curveballs and inflation sucks, so we’re no longer comfortable calling it quits at that number and will grind it out a bit longer.

Just wanted to take a moment to semi-celebrate with people who would understand. 😁


r/Fire • • 8h ago

Opinion Last decade of work conundrum

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So, I am definitely in my last decade of work. Maybe only 6-7 years before I retire. Been in the workforce for 20+ years. The conundrum I face is this:

I don’t have any more professional aspirations. I don’t care about getting promoted or for any political “power” at work etc. I don’t feel the need to achieve anything specifically. I feel like I am working because: a) it is a reasonably pleasant office and gives some professional structure to my life; b) the salary pays the bills and keeps the portfolio growing without my needing to raid it.

On the other hand, given all the uncertainties and AI bubble etc, it feels reckless to just proactively resign from a perfectly good job and FIRE. If I am laid off, I will probably declare it as “retirement” and either quit altogether or look for some fractional/part time work at my own pace. But I feel it may be irresponsible to simply quit a good employer I have been with for past 15+ years.

How do others in their final decade of work think?


r/Fire • • 8h ago

Advice Request Real estate rental income as part of FIRE- anybody who has done it?

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I am heavy into real estate rentals as it’s a subject I like and my passion so I got inclined towards it. It gives 6-7% net income and 5-7% appreciation on property on average. Tenants and landlording is not a headache for me. Real estate is a really slow get rich and takes decades to mature. Stocks are different

I wanted to get opinion from people who have already retired and had rental income as major sources. For those who have been in RE long term, have you looked back and said what if I should have invested in the stocks? Or did your real estate beat stocks? Any lessons?


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Were Your Last Few Years of Work the Best or Worst?

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I am 50 and between 3 to 4 years away from FIRE. I have had a relatively successful career, with natural successes and failures. In the end though, I am a Director and make about $170k per year. Yes some good luck, some hard work, hopefully some good looks (jk).

I have a new VP who joined my organization last year. She has proven to be the most micromanaging biatch I have ever worked with. She criticizes everything I do, only likes those who agree with her, and does nothing but fill the workspace with microaggressions. I have a feeling she particularly dislikes me (maybe a male thing in a female dominated profession). I am coming to realize I may be on the chopping block or that my last few years of work are going to be totally demoralizing- not how I expected to end my career.

Any of you experience the same? How did you manage to "hold on" for the last few years? Any advice you can share?

For additional context, money is secondary at this point. I am Coast Firing with about 1.3 mil in my portfolio and a defined benefit pension plan (wife and I) that will pay between $100 to 120k annually once we hit 55. I am in Canada, so we also get government pension when we turn 70 (deferred). So, at this point, my goal is simply to keep building a safety net for my kids.

Thanks in advance for sharing your experiences.


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Non-USA In my 30s, tired of working but afraid to quit my low six-figure job

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As a software developer, my job is basically entering prompts into AI and following the actions it recommends.

Makes me wonder why I’m still working instead of focusing on FIRE and enjoying life.

Anyone else feeling the same way?


r/Fire • • 7h ago

Thinking Through

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I've been thinking about something and need some input.

Let's say retirement is 20 years out. Your parent dies in 10 and you get $2 million. Enough to retire. But what about the kids? They are almost done with high school. You don't mind the work you do.

Do you retire? Or do you work a while longer to be able to pass along a bigger chunk?


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Saving for Tomorrow, Missing Today

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Sometimes it feels like I'm spending most of my waking hours doing things I don't really care about, just to make enough money, save enough, and maybe eventually reach FIRE before 65. that's in less than 15 years... nothing if you are 20, but a lot if you're alredy "middle age"...By then, I'll be old enough that I may not fully enjoy some of the things I'd love to be doing today.

Some days I catch myself daydreaming about one of my projects taking off, or my investments doing incredibly well and pulling my FIRE date forward by a few years. Other days, I'm crunching the numbers, wondering whether I could make it work with only half of my target portfolio.

Then there are times when I think a sabbatical might be the answer. It could be a way to test-drive the FIRE lifestyle without taking on too much risk or making any irreversible decisions.

And sometimes I'm just annoyed at myself for not starting this journey a decade earlier. Had I done that, I might already be there? but that way of thinking leads nowhere...

tic.. toc.. tic.. toc...

venting out a bit...


r/Fire • • 1d ago

General Question Has anyone FIRE'd then went into the arts?

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Specifically curious if anyone made their money in the boring corporate world then FIRE'd and pursued their interest in something like writing, painting, dance etc?


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Advice Request Job & life Risk or safely FI

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I live in a LCOL area, and have a LCOL style. I recently just crossed over FI but that’s single, with a LCOL. I’m realizing my contributions have diminishing impact on my Post FIRE spending. I have an opportunity to take a career risk, that could add a big $$ to my savings and take me from solo FI to very Chubby-FI.

My concern is that the new role has challenges. It’s located in a VH/HCoL area. The 150% in salary is consumed almost entirely by taxes and adjusted CoL. Either role, doesn’t substantially change networth in 5-10 yrs but 1 is boring and easy. The other is risky and challenging but has the after work location to enjoy too.

My numbers:
40s, SINK, want to work another ~5-10 yrs to afford a more fun lifestyle. And yes I would have no problem spending it. Right now, work and time commitments get in the way of long travel, mtn living, and beach days. The destination travel kills me.
Current income: $135k- top 5%-10% in the state
Spend: $48k/yr
Invested Assets: $1.2 M
Job2: ~$215k
VHCOL: $60k - $96k/yr VHCoL area, but amazing access to the things I love.

TLDR;
Take a challenging job with a lot of fun around or boring glide into security.


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Milestone / Celebration FIRE in 2024 (self employed)

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I went self employed; created a corporation.

Personal: 1.4M in retirement accounds and 40k in cash

Corporation: 2.2M

House/Mortgage: 480k

Single dad with 2 teens. I want to retire soon. I have been working part-time in my corporation but it brings about 500k a year.

I am thinking of retiring at 5m when I am 45 or 48 and when the kids are all 18+.


r/Fire • • 6h ago

Are FIRE achievers proletariat or bourgeoisie?

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With the explosion of AI moving classes of jobs toward obsolescence, I've been reading a bunch on Marxist theory and what it means for work. I'm not soliciting people's opinions on, or advocating for Marxism, just doing a thought experiment here. (mods, if this counts as politics, feel free to delete)

I'm a tech worker myself, looking to retire early. So I'm currently a member of the proletariat, right? I earn a wage, don't control the means of production. I have a significant amount of savings in the stock market, but no real direct control of it.

But what about when I retire? I no longer work for a wage, and I have a pile of money with voting power (ostensibly) in public companies. Am I now in the petty bourgeoisie? Or am I still proletariat given that my retirement was funded by wages?


r/Fire • • 1d ago

General Question Is Social Security Best to take at 62 for FIRE?

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So I got bored and started doing the math on what age is actually best to take social security. I went into this thinking that there at some time point there would be some crossover, wherein due to the increased benefit percentage, waiting longer would win out in the long run in terms of total earnings from social security... man was I wrong.

TLDR: All my math points to starting social security at 62, even with the 70% penalty, wins out indefinitely.

For people interested in the math, I simply took the average social security at 67 (~$2,000/month for 2026 says Yahoo Finance) and the age dependent benefit percentages and plotted this with your standard compound interest + monthly contributions equation. To make it as accurate as possible I even accounting for inflation adjustments (4% annually) on benefit payouts. All of this to show a series of lines that never overlap :P

So my question is, for those of us who follow the FIRE movement and already don't factor social security into the mix and just see it as padding, is there any world where its better to wait till you are older than 62? or have I butchered the math and it is actually best to wait and not claim immediately as you don't really need the money?

Edit: I’m looking at this purely numerically, wherein you don’t spend a penny of it and just stick it in the SP500 to get 8% a year.


r/Fire • • 2d ago

General Question What's new in the FIRE world?

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Has there been any recent (within a year or so) developments with FIRE? The only thing I can think of is the 4% to 4.7% adjustment the originator made. Anything else?


r/Fire • • 1d ago

ACA strategy every other year?

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I was laid off at age 56 this year after 36 years with my company, with my NW )mostly in 401k and pension) -
I hit 2.1 million and decided to not make major financial decisions this year but I took Unemployment and model my needed healthcare ( I am a lifelong diabetic). Since I was laid off in the first quarter of 2026, was able to get ACA subsidies and lived off savings. Next year, I am taking a substantial salary for myself under the Rule of 55 and will not qualify for any subsidies.
I have budgeted for my premiums next year with no subsidies,, but has anyone taken a larger distribution at the end of the year to live on the following year and qualify for subsidies? What are the drawbacks? Tax implications? Just trying to see if I take enough to cover/or get subsidized ACA in 2028? I will only be 58 at that time. obviously I am trying to maximize income and minimize healthcare expenses.
Has anyone done this before? Basically live or draw the year before and live off that the filling year?


r/Fire • • 20h ago

General Question Is there a Web map for best expat cities or countries for early retirement?

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I have made a few free tool websites in the past and couldn't find one on this topic so was thinking of building one for my fellow Fire enthusiasts.

I was thinking the best way to make a live map like this would be to rate cities based on the average pay/cost of living and liability (public transportation and shop density).

My question is could this be a useful tool for those considering geo-arbitrage fire or people wanting to compare COL in different countries and cities? Any feedback would be appreciated!


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Daily FIRE Hangout - Tuesday, October 20, 2026

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This is a relaxed hangout thread for the FIRE community to chat with other FIRE-minded folks without having to publish separate posts. This is the place for brand new people to get their feet wet as well as for lurkers who have questions or comments, but do not want to create posts of their own.

All of the sub rules apply in this thread as normal with the exception of the off-topic rule, which is relaxed to the extent that people don't go wildly off of the reservation.

We are putting this up as a trial to see if it is worth keeping this as a permanent feature of the sub. Participation is entirely voluntary and anyone who wants to create a separate post of their own rather than posting in here is free to do so.


r/Fire • • 2d ago

Opinion [2026 Trinity Study Update] Is a 60/40 fund still worth a 1% success bump over 100% Equities?

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I’ve been diving into the math behind historical withdrawal rates and wanted to share some backtest numbers I ran updating classic 30-year retirement safe withdrawal rates (SWR) with data extending through present day (1926–2025/2026).

Like many here, I originally assumed that as I got closer to retirement, I’d eventually transition into a classic 2-fund (VT + BND) or 3-fund portfolio with a \~20% to 40% bond allocation to cushion volatility and protect against Sequence of Returns Risk (SRR).

However, looking at updated 30-year rolling backtest success rates across historical market history, the trade-off between holding bonds vs. just lowering your SWR on a 100% equity portfolio is pretty eye-opening.

30-Year Success Rates Across Historical Backtests (1926–2025)
When testing rolling 30-year retirement windows with annual inflation adjustments:

30-Year Backtest Success Rates (1926–2025)

\[Allocation\] \[3.5% SWR\] \[4.0% SWR\]
50 / 50 100% 96%
60 / 40 100% 97%
70 / 30 100% 98%
80 / 20 100% 98%
90 / 10 100% 97%
100 / 0 99% 96%

At a 4.0% SWR: Moving from 100% equities (95–96% success) all the way to a classic 60/40 portfolio (96–97% success) only increases historical 30-year survival probability by \~1%.

At a 3.5% SWR: A 100% equity portfolio achieves a \~98%–100% success rate across historical 30-year rolling spans, rendering bond allocations virtually redundant for success probability.

Instead of starting a 10-year bond glidepath as I approach retirement, my plan is shifting toward:
Over-saving / Aiming for a 3.5% SWR (or lower): Rather than holding 30–40% fixed income to guard a 4% rule, accumulating enough assets to live on a 3.5% SWR allows 100% stock portfolios to weather historical sequence-of-returns shocks just as effectively.

Peter Lynch Quote on Fixed Income: As Peter Lynch famously noted, "People worry about the riskiness of stocks, but bonds can be just as risky" - especially in prolonged inflation or rising interest rate regimes.

For those in early retirement or FIRE who run 100% equity portfolios (VT/VOO/VTI) with a cash/HYSA buffer: Do you still plan on building out a bond tent, or are you comfortable using a lower SWR (3.5%) on 100% equities as your primary risk mitigation tool?

Curious to hear the sub's thoughts!


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Advice Request Advice needed on interest and tax

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I'm saving a significant portion of my income and have been using lots of small but high interest savings accounts to grow my money, but as my money has grown I'm now getting hit with additional tax.

I'm planning to move a chuck of money into a cash ISA in Dec, to max out my allowance, and to do the same in April for the new tax year (despite the lower thresholds). But that still leaves £50k outside of an ISA, and so exposed to tax. I can't pay more into my pension, so just wanted to check I haven't missed any ways to Dave and earn interest and not pay unnecessary tax.


r/Fire • • 1d ago

Bond funds and duration

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Hi all,

I have a question about bond funds. I am a big advocate of the Bogleheads approach/ JL Collins, I’m currently 60/40 in diversified stock index funds / global intermediate bond fund (comparable to VTI/ BNDW).

I’m unclear about the bond duration element and how it relates to retirement. The general advice is to pick a bond fund duration based on when you will need the cash, eg BNDW is around 6 years. However in retirement the purpose of holding this fund will be for diversification and ballast in the portfolio, not for a specific purchase - I will draw down to maintain my chosen asset allocation during retirement. And leading up to retirement I will continue to invest in the portfolio ie buy more bond funds. Also the fund itself will continue to sell and repurchase bonds to maintain the duration.

So in essence: how does the bond fund duration / decision relate to retirement?


r/Fire • • 3d ago

Milestone / Celebration Reached 1.5M and celebrating!

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We (38F and 38M) just got to $1.5M!

This was really surprising since my husband has been unemployed since March. Not only has income been ~60% the last 6M, but I've backed our savings rate from 20% to 6% (per paycheck, not including any bonuses - should increase savings rate by at least 10%, max 20%, but I'm not committing until we see where we are financially - we have several large and long-term expenses that are on-going, like a sewer lining project at 0% we're paying off and an active medical condition that's only partially covered by insurance and a move we're planning).

Anyways, just wanted to celebrate a little! (We're more casually pursuing FIRE, and not even completely sure what our FIRE number truly is - somewhere between $2.5-$5M, but planning on moving back to my hometown next year and planning on children as soon as we can manage it, thus the uncertainty)

Only debt is the house ($275 equity not included in NW) and the 0% sewer project ($14k remaining) but medical expenses may be on the order of $20-$50k.

Plan so far has just been to save as much as feasible as young as possible for exactly these types of years. $2.5M was the original number when we started working 10 years ago, but we'll zero in on final numbers once our lives have settled from building our family in a new location.

Anyways, I just wanted to celebrate a small win because anywhere else it's easily seen as bragging.


r/Fire • • 3d ago

Working 2 days/week > Full FIRE (because of purpose, SOR risk, brain health)

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For years, my wife and I persued full FIRE, but the closer we got, the more we realized that working 2 days/week each is vastly superior.

Full FIRE has some potential drawbacks: lack of purpose/structure, loss of status, faster cognitive decline and sequence of returns risk.

Working just 2 days/week each (my wife and I) allows us to pull the trigger today instead of working full time another ~5-6 years for Full FIRE.

Part of the reason it works so well in Australia is that low wages result in almost 0 income tax (each of us has $18,200 tax free thresholds) + the employers still contribute 12% into Superannuation.