I absolutely HATE the narrative that a woman committing a crime ‘sets women back hundreds of years’

[u/JollyCapybara]

Because there is absolutely NOTHING that men could do that would make society go ‘this is setting men back’, ‘men should lose the right to vote’, etc. Committing 99% of rapes? Not all men. Being over 95% of family annihilators? They’re individuals, you can’t judge all men for the actions of a few.

Society would never even dream of taking men’s rights away, because men’s rights aren’t negotiable. Doesn’t matter if 99% of men woke up tomorrow and decided to commit mass murder, they’re still deserving of rights.

Imagine if women were the ones who committed 98% of mass shootings, for example. It wouldn’t even be a question to these misogynists that all women should lose access to firearms and be stripped of their rights immediately. But as always, because mass shooters are pretty much always male, they’re treated as individuals, not as a representative of their entire gender.

This goes for literally every crime in existence. A man commits a horrific act? Not all men. A woman commits a horrific act? ALL women are evil and can’t be trusted. We’re seeing this being played out with Lindsay Clancy. Apparently women are no longer safe to be around children. Let’s just ignore the fact that men make up 80% of child killers. They don’t even try to hide their hypocrisy anymore, it’s exhausting.

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[u/Three3Jane]

It's not about Lindsay Clancy. We know that, and so do they.

It's about coming up with another bullshit excuse to take away even more rights because they're aggrieved that women aren't financially tied to them any more. Financial dependece meant women had to put up with a whole lot more shit than they do now because you know, food, shelter, shit like that.

But you're right - the hypocrisy and committed refusal to see the horrific shit that men perpetrate on women, children, and other men EVERY FUCKING DAY is peak cognitive dissonance.

[u/Clean_Insect5042 → u/Three3Jane]

What rights does the Clancy case even bring into question?

Women’s default stance as the primary parent even when having a psychotic break?

What legal rights do they want—legal responsibility for the children they already emotionally neglect while we beg them to “help” with parenting?

They just love to hate on women and punch down whenever possible.

[u/Three3Jane → u/Clean_Insect5042]

It's fucking crazy, I get it.

Clancy is being bandied as a real-world "example" of how women's hormones make them so crazy they kill their own kids, so how can they possibly be trusted with positions of authority or power?

But men don't wanna talk about how many men perpetrated family annihilations during Clancy's trial shh shh we don't talk about that. Nor do they want to acknowledge how many family annihilation events happened since the end of her trial shh shhh. I mean gosh family annihilations are just a one-off thing that doesn't happen often even though per Google, in the United States, family annihilation events in 2026 have happened roughly every 5-7 days where a man specifically kills a wife/partner and other family members shh shhh women are craaaaaaaay.

Hell, I've even seen Clancy's case used as a reason to repeal the 19th, because women's hormones make them too unstable to vote and we should leave all that to the eminently stable, non-hormone-driven men to manage things because they've done such a fucking CRACKING job of [waves hands at everything] so far.

(to be clear in case my tone sounds combative, I am totally agreeing with you)

[u/BoredCheese → u/Clean_Insect5042]

In the amount of time it took to hold Clancy’s trial, eight (EIGHT!) men in the United States alone annihilated their entire families. This tells you everything you need to know.

[u/The-Devil-Cat → u/Clean_Insect5042]

no fr bc men dont even want to parent and be main caregivers so wtf

[u/4timesther8te → u/Three3Jane]

Yup. It's just an excuse, and most of the time they don't even need excuses to try to strip us of rights and power and basic safety.

[u/4timesther8te → u/[deleted]]

Women can and do suffer from PPP and PPD. She admitted it and was actively seeking help and care that she did not receive.

If anything, this case should bring to light how many mothers struggle with PPD and PPP (and postpartum anxiety, which is what I had to deal with. Nightly severe and multiple panic attacks for -years-, several of which landed me in the ER. I was told to "just take some time off" LOL and nothing else... no help otherwise) and how our society continues to ignore and abuse women.

I've no idea about her husband. I wouldn't doubt if some of his actions (or lack of actions) helped push her into her psychosis though. I very much doubt if a woman has the right help and support at home she's going to go into full PPP.

[u/The-Devil-Cat → u/Three3Jane]

the whole lindsay clancy thing was a psyop. Men were not this mad about the diddy shit that came out, they made memes about it

[u/PiratedMuse404 → u/The-Devil-Cat]

This! I don’t think she did it. I think she was interrogated/harassed by piggers for hours and admitted something under duress; Her words were twisted and used against her.

She has a male lawyer who’s clearly riding the wave of popularity more so than looking out for his high-profile client’s best interest. She should’ve replaced him a while ago.

[u/looly1234]

Exactly this. When a man commits a crime, he is judged as an individual. When a woman does, her actions are weaponized to condemn an entire gender.

We are so desensitized to male violence that it barely disrupts the news cycle. Yet a single crime by a woman becomes a national media spectacle, used to debate our basic rights.

The hypocrisy is staggering. People will unironically suggest stripping women of autonomy over a single headline, while ignoring that men statistically commit the vast majority of violent crimes. Men get individual accountability; women are forced to carry collective blame.

[u/Clean_Insect5042 → u/looly1234]

And they use other men’s violence to their advantage.

“Sure I never even take out the trash, but at least I didn’t commit a murder suicide, amirite? So can I get some celebratory head tonight, baby?”

[u/PoggleRebecca → u/looly1234]

It's the same with minority groups too. I think it's a way to distract from the actions of these men.

Like if a white cishet guy robs a house, then only he will get the blame. If an immigrant robs a house, then there's a riot demanding to "deport immigrants" which gets way more attention than the guy robbing the house - and that same guy will be at that riot.

It's no accident the biggest correlation between people who go to "protect the women from immigrants" riots outside of gender and ethnicity, is whether they're a convinced domestic abuser.

[u/j-doe411]

Wow… this actually gave me new ammo for misogynist subs 😈 “men should lose the right to vote” it’s honestly perfect 🤌

[u/Clean_Insect5042 → u/j-doe411]

I mean felons don’t vote, and they should all be in prison so we can finally have functioning societies.

[u/seawitchbitch → u/j-doe411]

I think only women should be allowed to use or own guns. The record speaks for itself!

[u/missingperson2025 → u/j-doe411]

"Not all women." Why didn't I think of this before.

[u/JediKnightNitaz]

It's always "nOt aLl MEn" and "EVERY WOMAN EVER RAHHH!!!!!"

[u/effervescent-reader]

Even in the case of the Cornell 7, the worst I’ve seen people say is “fraternities/Greek life should be banned.” Not that men should lose the right to go to college.

[u/Clean_Insect5042 → u/effervescent-reader]

It’s ok, they’ll just raise the cost of college while continuing to hire uneducated men at the same or better rates as educated women, now burdened with university debt. We already see it now as women make up the majority of college graduates yet continue to earn less overall.

[u/Rinerino]

Womens rights and emancipation are more on a retreat now than before because the concessions seen as rights are only tolerated by the ruling class (which is primarily male) as long as it has enough capital to finance it. If women "have" to be primarily mothers and caretakerd (for barely to no pay) then that is going to happen in their minds.

The cutting of social Services and child care, as well as overall weakening of material independence from men is their strategy.

Men who think women committing crimes means something here are delusional. And they are trying to justify what cannot be justified.

[u/epiix33]

I would even go as far as saying 95% of men sexually harrassed/assaulted a woman in their lifetime yet I see noone talking about how it sets men back

[u/Clean_Insect5042 → u/epiix33]

Because they know all it does is propel men forward.

They should just admit they don’t want civilization but whatever might makes right corporate hellscape they’ve been building for hundreds of years.

[u/Clean_Insect5042 → u/epiix33]

Because they know all it does is propel men forward.

They should just admit they don’t want civilization but whatever might makes right corporate hellscape they’ve been building for hundreds of years.

[u/CAM_13570 → u/epiix33]

100%, not 95

[u/AnyNecessary5657]

The Clancy case was a horrible, preventable tragedy that should be taken the same as any other brutal case like it.

But no, instead men are storming social media and saying all women are horrible monsters and that we all condone that type of behavior. Ignoring the fact that, like you pointed out, family annihilations are mostly carried out by men. Yet not a single person is out here crying on Twitter that men should be enslaved for it.

It's like this every time a woman is accused of anything, even if she didn't do it or the full story wasn't told. Remember Amber Heard and what the press did to her? Remember how loud people were during the trial vs how quiet people were when court documents leaked exposing the horrible shit depp did that made her act that way? Because I'll never forget.

They say "accountability should be equal to everyone" but we know damn well that isn't the case. Their "accountability" only extends to saying "women can be abusers/killers/rapists too!!!" as they hate on one female offender out of 50 male offenders.

[u/Fantastic-Ad-7996]

we should start saying "not all women" lmao

[u/any_old_usernam]

[u/Scary-Ad2312]

Exactly, plus women are always held accountable, by other WOMEN too. Which is right, but they also face harsher punishments, which are worse if in a minority etc.

Men face absolutely zero punishment or accountability for their violence and crimes.

[u/LaRreinaa → u/Scary-Ad2312]

Sometimes I like watching men get ate up in the instagram comments but this weird social media war normalized men being mean to women when men shouldn't have luxuries like internet access anyway. Why aren't they at work? Every man should have his bank account and assets seized and immediately wired to any of his rape victims and then after that the women in his family. This should happen every payday. Change my mind.

[u/The-Devil-Cat → u/LaRreinaa]

men need less rights

[u/LonerExistence]

It’s another double standard. A man committing another crime is just another Tuesday and “boys will be boys” - all the horrific shit men have done is enough to set them back to before the planets even formed but “not all men.” Then it’s a woman and “omg look women can be evil too so definitely NOT ALL MEN.”

[u/Miserable_Pin2518]

Being set back 100 years: bad

But in many instances, being set back several hundred years: good

Minus the lack of air conditioning. Its fine Ill just move north and enjoy my extended rights to property.

[u/AcanthisittaRoyal270]

Yeah, apparently we have to earn our rights by making sure every woman on the planet “behaves” herself, stay compliant, make money for rich men and have babies who’ll grow up to make even more money for rich men and their 19-year-old wives. :/

[u/Ok_Tree_4870]

When I was a kid... maybe you remember this.

When my brother used to get in trouble... he would always say... "But he did it too!" , ( my cousin or a friend).

And my mom would always reply "If Johhny jumped off a bridge would you do it too?"

They think if someone else did it... like a child... it is a way to deflect the anger coming at them. Like.. "get mad at him, not me", or "yell at him not me".

It the exact same thing.

Like they think it gets them out of trouble... like kids.

Takes the heat off them or something.

And I see it ALL the time in women's subs. Talk about rape? Hwre come all the males... "women rape too!!!" .

Like yeah Kyle women are running around in with strap ons overpowering men and raping them. /s

[u/DesperateBurrito68 → u/Ok_Tree_4870]

Damn victim blaming AND redirecting? Goddamn how insensitive can you be to comment shit like that on a post that took a lot for the OP to make?

Edit: Sorry the "you" was general... not you you....

[u/Comfortable-Mine-471]

This is a common tactic from oppressors, not just towards women but towards all oppressed group. You never see people blaming every single Christian or white person for the horrors committed against the indigenous peoples or for the crimes committed by the kkk, but as soon as a person of colour or a muslim commits a crime, suddenly its every person of colour and every muslim.

It's a tactic to keep us down and to reinforce the superiority white men feel towards others.

[u/newest_york]

Dude I was watching a show about Elizabeth Holmes and they decided to end it by saying female-led startups are struggling to get funding in Silicon Valley because of her and I was like ?????? orrrrr Silicon Valley is one of the most sexist places in America and they were all looking for an excuse to say no to women before and have latched onto Elizabeth Holmes as a scapegoat so they won’t be called sexist??

[u/LaRreinaa]

"Wow, she's making all women look bad!"

I hope that it's men larping as a woman cause you know that's one of their hobbies.

[u/Sea-Original-5824]

Whenever men start going off about how women are irresponsible or can't handle motherhood, always reply that you agree and that is why you are part of a growing movement to get women to stop having sex with men until we've proven we can handle it.

[u/Lutrina → u/Sea-Original-5824]

say they should be the primary parent because women are so incompetent

[u/Sea-Original-5824 → u/Lutrina]

For sure. Women should only get three hours of supervised visitation a week.

[u/comsictrench]

We all know men got ahead from good behavior, right? /s
Ironic that most positions of power in the world are held by men and that most criminals in prisons around the world are also men… hmmm.

[u/4timesther8te]

Males shouldn't have the right to vote or hold public office.

[u/Appropriate_Put4093]

if anything we should commit more crimes

[u/Ok_Willingness5766]

It's funny how when men talk about how evil women are it's "but men commit 99% of rapes" but when women talk about how evil men are it's "but lindsay clancy"

[u/New_Wolf9451]

type shit

[u/Infamous_Smile_386]

I'm all for confining men to their homes for the safety of others. 

[u/Yuzumist]

A woman committing a crime just makes men speak the same opinions that they've been holding for thousands of years regardless. They are all misogynists.

[u/Intelligent_Low1632]

Now do crime stats for literally any protected class other than gender.

[u/JollyCapybara → u/Intelligent_Low1632]

Men of all races, sexualities and economic status commit the most crimes.

[u/Intelligent_Low1632 → u/JollyCapybara]

Now break it down in literally any other protected subgroup among those men, and get your reddit account banned.

[u/MoveOn22]

Where in your post do you address shifting responsibility away from a murderer?

The core of this conversation is not around the crime. It’s the refusal to accept it happened.

A woman killed her kids.

And there seems to be three buckets.

1. She did it. And needs to face consequences whether that is jail or institution.
2. She did it. But it’s her husbands fault for being a neglectful piece of trash.
3. She didn’t do it. Even though 12/12 jurors concluded she did it. Patrick did it.

If a man kills his kids.

1. He did it and he should go to prison or be executed.

[u/JollyCapybara → u/MoveOn22]

She killed her children. If she was experiencing psychosis, she should be sent to a psychiatric institution. If she wasn’t experiencing psychosis and was in full control over her actions, she should be sent to prison.

[u/MoveOn22 → u/JollyCapybara]

You fall in bucket 1. We are seeing a very large percentage of women falling in buckets 2 and 3

[u/JollyCapybara → u/MoveOn22]

What’s your point?

[u/MoveOn22 → u/JollyCapybara]

I don’t believe this case is setting women back. I’m explaining the landscape I’m seeing with men and women I know personally and online. Men see buckets 2 and 3 above as irrational or avoiding responsibility. And if someone has the opinion that this case “set women back” they are likely pointing to the people that are in those two buckets as being responsible. I think your post was missing that.

[u/Super-fictious → u/MoveOn22]

OP: "There is absolutely NOTHING that men could do that would make society go ‘this is setting men back’, ‘men should lose the right to vote’, etc"

You: Your post is really missing the detail that women are creating oppressive mindsets by not being perfect all the time!

Her post wasn't missing anything. You've missed the point.

[u/macmcdonald → u/[deleted]]

What's worse ? Men's documented violent behaviour (look at the stats) or a few women being on Clancy's side ? Why does that set women back but not the other

[u/pamellaluv → u/[deleted]]

Do you even know what postpartum psychosis is? It's amazing how many people refuse to even say it and instead need to resort to calling it "hormones" or "chemical imbalance."

[u/eugeneugene → u/[deleted]]

>held accountable for their crimes

hahahahhahahaahhaa

[u/fiercefeminist → u/[deleted]]

Like your commentary is any more enlightening? Your comment is absolute bullshit, lots of men are not held accountable for their crimes. 

[u/4timesther8te → u/[deleted]]

Males elected a pedo rapist and rally for pedo rapists like Andrew Tate.

Sit down, shut up.

[u/4timesther8te → u/[deleted]]

I mean, males also are responsible for EVERY genocide in history.

So, there's that. Good job males. You are #1 in rapes, assaults, murders, war crimes, pedophilia, genocides, and rallying for rapists.

Tell me again why you should have rights, at all, of any kind?

[u/JollyCapybara → u/[deleted]]

And the men rallying for Andrew Tate to be freed? Andrew Tate, the man who raped a minor and trafficked children? Is that setting men back? And the women on Clancy’s side aren’t saying ‘yeah she killed her kids but she should go free!’ They’re literally advocating for postpartum psychosis to be taken more seriously, and for her to be sent to a mental institution instead of a regular prison.