[Interesting Trope] Characters growing weaker as they age because of their change in mindset/lifestyle.

[u/sorvetdleit]

- Paul Bunyan from Fate/Grand Order, when she was a kid she could grow as far as you could see and become gigantic, once she becomes a teenager she defaults to an "average" height.

This is implied to be because the change in size is tied to her emotions and she's now insecure about others around her not liking her that much, she now only grows after getting a bunch of likes online.

- Gohan from Dragon Ball, when he was a kid struggling he was a prodigy, strong enough to knock down enemies way older than him and defeat threats not even his dad could.

But as he moved on to an era of peace and dedicated himself to his studies, work and family he continuously slacked off in training and nearly every project he's in he's having to catch back up with a quick training or power up to hold his own in the field, hopefully this stops after his recent movie but who knows.

[u/Ok-Worry-8931]

Joseph Joestar (JoJo) settles down and stops practicing Hamon, a life-extending martial art, leading to him becoming weak and senile in Part 4.

[u/Waffielz → u/Ok-Worry-8931]

it's kinda funny that his mom is still kicking in Europe looking like she's 32

[u/Lord_Darklight → u/Waffielz]

It’s cause she stayed committed to the hamon life style. If Joseph put some effort in it post part 2, he would have been in his prime for 3 and slightly out of it for 4.

[u/Azicald → u/Lord_Darklight]

Prime Joseph in each of those would have been so cool ngl, like having a second protagonist or more than that with all the improvement in expertise as time went on

[u/anand_rishabh → u/Waffielz]

Do we see his mom after part 2? Yeah when she's 50 she still looks young, like age 30 or so. But even joseph was quite spry at age 68b during part 3. It was only in part 4 he looked out of it

[u/FireZord25 → u/Waffielz]

wait is it confirmed? I recall hamon slows your aging down, but doesn't fully pauses it.

[u/ThatConsequence8505 → u/FireZord25]

It slows ageing enough to make Lisa Lisa, a mother of a grown man looks in her early 30s at worst. I think she probably had nothing more than some gray hair even in the worst case scenario in part 3's time.

[u/DarkraiAndScizor → u/FireZord25]

I remember looking into it and finding on the wiki a spin-off novel where the plot is that Lisa Lisa develops a stand due to still being alive during the events of Part 3, and fighting off some threat elsewhere in the world. The stand's powers being to produce Hamon infused superheated winds. Main issue is her legs were getting weaker as she aged even with her Hamon mastery, but her cognitive functions were still fully functional iirc.

The stand isn't necessarily canon as a result, but it is very likely she is infact alive during part 3, maybe even parts 4 and 5. Not necessarily 6 though since she'd realistically be over 100 years old by then.

[u/NoLegs02 → u/[deleted]]

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[u/AshDus7]

Jotaro from Jojo's bizarre adventure

Due to him focusing on his career and not using his stand to fight after part 3 of the series, his ability to stop time decreases from a duration of 5 seconds to just 2

[u/Next_Government856 → u/AshDus7]

Goes back to five by the end of part six but it doesn’t matter due to the affects of Made in Heaven

[u/Sofaris]

It is implied that Kyo and his partner Murasamemon had gotten weaker since he was known as "Kyo the Golden", the strongest of the 5 Stars. That might be in part becuse Kyo runs a shelter for Baby Digimon now and feeds them with his E-Pulse. But over the course of the series Kyo and Murasamemon surpase their old selfes.

[u/Diavolo_Death_4444 → u/Sofaris]

It’s kinda crazy to think the guy who nearly lost to a Raremon (Gekkomon screwed things up for him but still) is the same guy who very casually overwhelmed three of Souji’s controlled Ultimates, when Rose couldn’t even handle two.

[u/PowerfullDio → u/Sofaris]

He goes from fighting for himself to not wanting to fight and then to fighting for his family.
It was really nice seeing his past.

[u/AsrielTerminator → u/Sofaris]

”Are you watching, Murasamemon?”

That scene made me cry so hard

[u/AsrielTerminator → u/AsrielTerminator]

Also because op didn’t mention the series in question is Digimon Beatbreak, I highly recommend it

[u/AdWestern1561]

Bane in Batman Beyond

Turns out using Venom, which is like steroids on steroids, takes massive tolls on the human body.

[u/Petertitan99999 → u/AdWestern1561]

Isn't that the opposite?
He grew weak because he DIDN'T change his lifestyle.

[u/AdWestern1561 → u/Petertitan99999]

Good point.

[u/CompleteJinx → u/AdWestern1561]

It’s was cool seeing how a handful of original series characters ended up in Beyond. Bane’s fate was dark but it fit the anti-drug theme of the episode and felt believable.

[u/Brocade_Muse → u/AdWestern1561]

Dude went from snapping spines to needing help sitting up

[u/reset_pheonix]

Isnt super Bunyan an imposter or something? I remember reading something in her materials to where something took over her spirit origin

[u/Beamguys → u/reset_pheonix]

Yup, so basically a shapeshifter snuck into Bunyan's spirit origin and mimicked her so perfectly that the shapeshifter himself is unaware that he isn't Bunyan. The weird part is that this info was revealed in a data book and not the actual game, so the shapeshifter is still unaware of its situation and for all intents and purposes is Super Bunyan.

[u/ZeroiaSD → u/Beamguys]

Honestly they kinda fumbled Super Bunyan all around. Bunyan is loved, Super Bunyan is very unpopular in Japan and still kinda viewed as eh among english fans, though not as negatively as in JP.

[u/zero-taeko]

Elephants (the real world): young males need older ones to mentor them; otherwise, they tend to overreact and act aggressively. In the 1990s, a handful of them killed 63 rhinoceroses.

[u/poorexcuses → u/zero-taeko]

Not just killed

[u/AccidentOk4378]

Spoilers for the anime onlys but this is a major plot point in (Re:Zero). Subaru gets turned into a kid but in the process loses his self doubt and it's replaced with pure confidence that he'll succeed no matter what.

[u/TechyTurtle]

Ryu from the boxer

[u/Chacmaaa]

Naruto’s lost his edge after becoming Hokage.

[u/Icy_Water_1 → u/Chacmaaa]

And his style.

[u/Lost_Needleworker676]

Paul Bunyan is this cutie patootie in the fate universe? Love that, I adore all the gender swapping Nasu does.

Anyway, arguably Kratos fits this? He in theory has the same strength he had back in his crusade against the Greek pantheon, but due to a change in his mindset and trying to be more peaceful he is (at least presented) weaker than he once was

[u/FloatinBrownie → u/Lost_Needleworker676]

Cory balrog stated that Kratos at the start of gow is the strongest version of him up to that point

[u/Lost_Needleworker676 → u/FloatinBrownie]

gow as in the first game ever? Or gow as in the first Norse one? Sorry, I know nothing about stuff outside the games so I have no concept of what developers have said or anything else in the greater community

[u/FloatinBrownie → u/Lost_Needleworker676]

No gow as in the first Norse one

[u/_JR28_]

Sakamoto (Sakamoto Days)

He’s a retired hitman who now has a family and a shop. No longer being on the field and living a typical lifestyle means he’s significantly less athletic than he used to be.

[u/UsErNaMeS_aR_DuMb]

Me (IRL)

[u/twisted4ever]

Clearly OP missed DB super hero where Gohan finally used the move that made him an orphan 😅

[u/No_Prize9794 → u/twisted4ever]

The only time I can recall Gohan being an orphan is in the future Trunks timeline or the Buu saga. He only ever had a missing father

[u/ERedfieldh]

Pretty sure Gohan never actually wanted to be a fighter in the first place, hence his "slacking off" during times of peace.

[u/GuillermoGoodman]

Paul Bunyan evolves from a mighty hero to a more nurturing figure.

[u/Mad_Scientist00 → u/GuillermoGoodman]

Bot.

[u/Scary-Farm-6319 → u/[deleted]]

Resurrection F was worked on by Toriyama, yes he wanted to adapt it in the anime but calling it a cash grab by Toyotaru and toei when toriyama was the one who designed the new transformations and uniforms as well as the storyboard is just plain wrong