r/TopCharacterTropes • u/Chill0000 • Aug 21 '26

Hated Tropes [HATED] Adaptations done intentionally without help from the source

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Halo TV show: Before the show came out, the writers were praising their decision to not look to the games for inspiration when making the show

God Of War TV show: Chris Judge, the actor of Kratos in the games from 2018-Now, spoke up about his dislike on the show not hiring anyone who worked on any of the previous games. One of the original creators of Kratos also spoke up about them not having faith in the adaptation.

Supergirl 2026 film: the director for the film not only said he decided to not read Woman Of Tomorrow, the comic the film is adapting, because he wanted to do his own thing, he also didn’t look at comic art for inspiration to design Lobo and instead used an AI image generator to design Lobo’s look for the film

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u/Christoleo92 Aug 21 '26

"Hey let's do suicide squad again but this time Kevin Hart is in it"

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u/HoldenOrihara Aug 21 '26

Kevin should have been Claptrap, but there were bigger problems than that

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u/RadicalSoda_ Aug 21 '26

The original voice actor should have been Claptrap, but they hate artists

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u/DebentureThyme Aug 21 '26

There's no way in hell that would happen because Randy Pitchford would veto the fuck out of it.

The original Claptrap voice actor, David Eddings, feuded publicly on social media with Randy over pay.  Then he claimed Randy Pitchford had physically assaulted him at GDC 2017.  He left the company that year and was replaced in everything Borderlands from that point forward.  Borderlands 2 was the last project he was on.

Randy Pitchford is a PoS, but he also still controls the company and Eddings isn't going to be allowed involvement in anything under his watch.

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u/HoldenOrihara Aug 21 '26

His last game was Tales from the borderlands, not 2. since he left to work for rooster teeth he wanted a proper actor paycheck; I can't remember if he actually made an extra bit to voice claptrap when he was a VP or if he did it as a part of his VP salary and Randy basically wanted to pay him nothing.

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u/HollyBananas Aug 21 '26

Eddings also voiced Claptrap in The Pre-Sequel, which also came after BL2.

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u/Own-Sale-9336 Aug 21 '26

Yeah, the behind-the-scenes history definitely makes his absence from later games more understandable. It’s wild how much drama can end up surrounding a character people just know and love for the voice.

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u/OneInitiative3757 Aug 21 '26

Didn't expect him to join rooster teeth, I probably should rewatch RWBY and RVB to see if I can catch his voice

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u/HoldenOrihara Aug 21 '26

I don't know if he did VA work for them, he was in charge of their games devision.

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u/ThelVluffin Aug 21 '26

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u/DebentureThyme Aug 21 '26

In the end, WB bought them and then later closed them down, so there were a lot of oofs.

At least their Stinky Dragon group managed to get get those rights secured away in the divorce and are allowed to continue doing their thing.

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u/HoldenOrihara Aug 22 '26

I think Stinky Dragon ended up merging with Critical Role or something.

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u/HoldenOrihara Aug 22 '26

Evidently he did do a voice for Bendy and the ink machine, I think RT Games helped with the console releases or something.

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u/OneInitiative3757 Aug 22 '26

I didn't know he wasn't a VA for RT it was only said "he joined rooster teeth" in the guys comment I thought voice actor for claptrap being voice actor in another studio

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u/Henchman____21 Aug 21 '26

The conspicuous bot

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u/SosugBiskit Aug 21 '26

Literally the same exact post with the wording changed ever so slightyl

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u/DebentureThyme Aug 21 '26

When I see them with the four numbers at the end of a random username, it makes me question whether the people deploying them are that dumb?  Or are they using those as a smoke screen to distract us and get us comfortable with the ones not trying to be so obvious?

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u/FewEffort8496 Aug 22 '26

Lots of real users have names like that because thats just what Reddit defaults to… like mydelfb

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u/eXcaliBurst93 Aug 21 '26

I think Borderland 4 released would've garnered more players if Randy Pitchford wasnt such a PoS...also everytime he opened his mouth PR just gets headaches trying to deal with fans to make sure they wont leave the game

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u/DoomRamen Aug 21 '26

I dunno about that. He was a well known waste of DNA even before 3 and that one sold gangbuster. Borderlands 4 came in with a higher price tag and sans COVID lock down. Borderlands 4 broke records in terms of dollar sale. But I can seem to find any reputable corroborating numbers on unit sales

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u/eXcaliBurst93 Aug 21 '26

I dont remember seeing media talking about how shit this guy was that often during BL3 released...but he was definitely making headlines everywhere when BL4 was about to released

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u/HoldenOrihara Aug 22 '26

It's complicated, if you were super in the know of Gearbox news you probably heard stuff, I think a lot of him being an ass really started to make the news more prolifically between "lilith and the fight for sanctuary" and BL3. The Eddings/Pitchford thing definitely became more popular retroactively than when it was fresh.

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u/SwoggitySwoogity Aug 24 '26

I mean, sometime before bl3 released, he left a flashdrive at a restaurant and a busser tooked it because it was left behind. As Randy Pitchford described, the contents were "Barely Legal Porn" iirc.

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u/Yicnombror Aug 22 '26

Yeah, but ole Randy was notably acting up during the months building up to bl4. He was making headlines, as he was being his greasy asshole self. His comments encouraged me not to buy bl4, and from what I've seen, it was a good call.

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u/BlOoDy_PsYcHo666 Aug 21 '26

Not paying the voice of your franchises mascot is certainly a pitchford thing to do lmao

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u/Impressive-Singer780 Aug 21 '26

That whole history makes a reunion feel pretty unlikely, sadly. It’s a shame when behind-the-scenes drama gets in the way of bringing back someone who helped make a character iconic.

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u/joyapco Aug 21 '26

Your favorite media is gonna get a live action adaptation!

BUT it's produced by people who think they can do better even if they didn't even bother reading the original material!

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u/CJ_poger Aug 21 '26

randy was one of the main producers of the movie. didn't help at all

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u/extinct_cult Aug 21 '26

Randy knows fuck all about Borderlands. Or writing. Or movies. The real person who set the tone for what Borderlands is to most people is Anthony Burch, the lead writer on BL2.

He left Gearbox after BL2 as well, sadly. Or probably not sadly for him; fuck Randy.

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u/CJ_poger Aug 21 '26

Well, tbh Randy is a talented game designer who made Borderlands extremely popular franchise and really good Brothers in Arms games. All Borderlands games plays well(well with maybe exception of first one and iOS spinoff abandonedware game), but storywise yeah Handsome Jack arc is best we get so far. Too bad Randy is a creep with ego issues. And all this sex stuff leaks - well...yeah...

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u/athos5 Aug 21 '26

"NEW ACHIEVEMENT! Your favorite media is gonna get a live action adaptation! But, it's produced by people who think they can do better even if they didn't even bother reading the original material!" I fixed it for you.

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u/HoldenOrihara Aug 21 '26

I mean if he was in the movie, then have Hart. Tho I'm not sure if Pitchford would have accepted the original voice

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u/Jaambie Aug 21 '26

One of the few roles I disliked jack black in. That and his role on the mandalorian come to mind

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u/DisorderlyAqueduct Aug 22 '26

regular actors aren't artists? huh.... 🤦

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u/RadicalSoda_ Aug 23 '26

I would never in a million years call Kevin Hart an artist

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u/DisorderlyAqueduct Aug 23 '26

...and why do you feel the need to attempt to invalidate him?

he's literally an artist; actor, comic. you don't have to be so triggered by him existing that you dehumanize.

He's great in the drama The Upside. 🤷

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u/InsouciantSlavDude Aug 21 '26

Kevin should not be near this movie. Or any at all, for that matter.

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u/wittyjokename92 Aug 22 '26

There's an interview out there that basically explains why Kevin Hart is in it. He took the role because the character as written was both funny and deeply traumatized. A guy who helped massacre countless innocents before realizing what he was doing was not just wrong but pointless and defected in order to protect a child. Someone who uses humor and sarcasm as a way to mask his pain and trauma before the facade eventually crumbles and he's this tragic figure trying to do something heroic after a lifetime of evil.

And then Randy pitchford read the script after Kevin was locked into it and complained that he only had jokes for the first third of the movie and then was just some PTSD sad sack the rest of the movie before dying. So he used his executive powers to rewrite the entire story to throw out Roland's entire arc and give him more jokes and keep him from dying in his self sacrifice moment.

And then you can see an interview with Kevin Hart after the reshoots where he's just checked out and collecting a paycheck instead of actually excited at getting to play against type for once.

It's a COVID movie that you can tell the actors did just to have work. And it's honestly not an awful movie when you keep that in mind. If it had been released in 2021 like it was supposed to be we all would have accepted it and forgotten about it. But for whatever reason they decided we needed an adaptation 10 years too late to the franchise with whoever was willing to sign on and just winging it the entire time rather than trying to make something new or different bolted onto the IP like Witcher and Halo were. It was a movie made by tax fraud and sent out to die because someone decided that they couldn't batwoman it.

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u/12monthsinlondon Aug 21 '26

tbf he's only a little bigger than claptrap

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u/OklahomaTiddy Aug 21 '26

Suicidejumanji

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u/CommanderOshawott Aug 21 '26

Kevin Hart and Cate Blanchett are so hilariously miscast it circles all the way back around to not being funny

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u/clever_name_123 Aug 22 '26

For a while I thought they were punking us with the cast and Kevin Hart would be claptrap and Jack Black would be Marcus

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u/HoldenOrihara Aug 22 '26

That's who I thought they should be, those would have been better fits.

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u/thatguyindoom Aug 22 '26

I know I'm probably in the minority here but yes the borderlands movie has problems, most of them occuring between the opening credits and the closing credits.

THAT SAID Kevin Hart as Roland isn't really one of them. He was fine, Tina was fine, krieg was fine, but the backdrop, set design, writing, sound track, action, and the rest of the casting (except Marcus that guy fuggin nailed it) was so bad it's hard to see the good in it.

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u/HoldenOrihara Aug 22 '26

Like Hart as Roland wasn't that bad, but I felt like he would have been better as Claptrap.

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u/VLANished Aug 22 '26

He couldn't do Claptrap, Claptrap is taller.

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u/Electrical_Try_634 Aug 21 '26

My question is how the fuck they got Cate Blanchett to do this movie.

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u/Kidofthecentury Aug 21 '26

Something along the lines of she begged them to do anything because sha was going insane during COVIDs quarantine.

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u/Arumin Aug 21 '26

She really enjoyed the games

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u/senseithenahual Aug 21 '26

That makes everything worse. If you had told me that during the pandemic she needed money, then I could say "yeah that make sense good for her" but if she was a fan be a part of something that doesn't feel anything like borderlands have to be really sad.

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u/BlueArya Aug 22 '26

She's said that she was losing her mind during Covid so her partner encouraged her to do the movie just so she would have something to do lol. I also was very confused abt why she would take it at first but makes sense that it was never a serious thing for her, just a little hobby to get out of the house.

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u/ismellmyownfarts2 Aug 21 '26

And you believed that?

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u/qmechan Aug 21 '26

Fuck, I would watch Cate Blanchett stream those. THAT should be the movie

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u/Futur3_ah4ad Aug 24 '26

Believe it or not, but Cate Blanchett is actually super chill with doing goofy and campy shit. She signed on to How to train your Dragon 2 because her kids loved the first one so much.

She could probably pull it off, too, but she's honestly 20 years too old to be playing Lilith. Despite aging gracefully, you can still tell she's older than Lilith is mostly portrayed as.

She's got the right voice, though.

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u/TheStrongTaint Aug 21 '26

Lots of money

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u/TurtlesBreakTheMeta Aug 21 '26

And Jack black! Despite the VA for claptrap being available

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u/LordOfDorkness42 Aug 21 '26

Claptrap?

Bha, Jack Black clearly needs to be the sexy Siren on the covers.

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u/AdministrativeShip2 Aug 21 '26

Got to get him to do a comedy song,  just borderlands repeated to a piano background.

Instant Tik tok hit 

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u/Valiant_Snow Aug 21 '26 edited Aug 21 '26

Holy shit, does this mean we will be getting a new Borderlands movie in a few years? Idris Elba is going to be Roland?!?!?

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u/CantCatchMeSpez Aug 21 '26

Idris Elba was already Roland

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u/Valiant_Snow Aug 21 '26

Shhhh...There is no Dark Tower movie. It never happened.

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u/Several-Minute6846 Aug 21 '26

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u/CantCatchMeSpez Aug 21 '26

Oh, they're definitely gonna make you do gay porn!

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u/Secondhandie Aug 21 '26

Randy Pitchford should not have insisted on giving Kevin Hart more jokes because he is Kevin Hart.  Kevin seemed like the one most passionated about the project 

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u/themolestedsliver Aug 21 '26

Kevin hart was a bad casting choice but at least he isnt 20-30 years older than the character he's portraying is suppose to be.

Still think the director has a grandma fetish for their casting choices.

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u/DarkArcanian Aug 21 '26

I am not a fan of Kevin hart. Not funny

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u/minivant Aug 21 '26

It’s weird to admit, but Kevin Hart wasn’t even close to being the worst part of that movie.

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u/Yurya Aug 21 '26

Yeah Kevin was actually passable. Sure Roland would be better casted but he wasn't just a one-liner joker and actually showed some depth.

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u/sum_dum_fuck Aug 21 '26

Apparently Kevin wanted to take the opportunity to delv from his norm and not be the funny haha man (wanting a serious, stoic role) but randy pitchford wanted him specifically to be the funny haha comedy man he is in other roles

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u/80lbQUIKRETEConcrete Aug 21 '26

Bro, have you seen the new Jumanji trailer?

Holy Fuck🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/Solus_Vael Aug 21 '26

Idk wtf they were thinking of making him Roland.... Wasn't Ariana Greenblatt taller than him? 😆