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Can you believe that? I didn't believe them, but these are smart people. Some people would say, the smartest people. And only the smarterest people believe the smartest people. Im smarter than them, let me tell you. You wouldn't believe it, but its true. My uncle went to Harvard, would you believe it. And now they built the biggest statue of me. Smart people at Harvard. But not the smartest.
I am genuinely curious, did the artist say this is a child? Because that just looks like a skinny man even on high quality pictures on google. I havent met mamy children who are this tall already and have such adult proportions.
We are not laughing, we are scared the same way you are of a monkey with a gun. Its a feeling of genuine anxiety and deep disstrust where we dont know if hes gonna go to war with us over greenland or canada or withdraw from nato to sell out europe to russia. We laughed at bush but this is way past that.
This is finding your friend unconscious with a needle in the arm. And when you check to see if hes ok, he wakes up and points a gun at you and start "talking" frantically in non-words. With a gun pointed at you.
And then he gets re-elected. With a gun pointed at you.
No, I disagree. Bush was an idiot. He didn't conceive of any of the things he did. Cheney and the business, political elite were responsible for telling Bush what to do.
Trump is the same way. He's greedy but not smart enough to come up with these ideas. What genius comes up with Trump Steaks, Trump University, and Trump Ties? With all of his money, he wanted to sell ties? C'mon. The political, business, military establishment in the US is pushing Trump. The only difference is that they are bolder and Trump's greed gives their plans a steroid shot.
The next republican president is going to be bad, really bad. There is a clear pattern in the US.
They left out my favorite part: The name of the statue "The Orange plague" is translated from the original danish used by the artist, which is "Die Orange Pest"
Part gives him way too much credit. He's not interested in helping, or even giving the illusion of help unless it's bribery for him receiving something in exchange.
It is not to be understood outside of its context, though. It is tied to "except step down from his back". I guess its more obvious to me, because im also a dane.
Perhaps it could be viewed more accurately in english with some commas.
"I am sitting on the back of a man, he is sinking under my burden.
I will do anything to help him, except step down from his back."
But that makes the sentences too long and i think Jens want trump to be able to read it.
They hurt everyone. If the US imposes tariffs on European goods, those goods become more expensive and people will switch to similar goods made in countries with less tariffs or for cheaper. The manufacturer of those goods see revenue and sales decline, which is bad for them and the country they pay taxes and employ people in
How about selling to the US and find a new client at the same time? Still better than just finding a new client.
There is no way you can say that losing a paying customer is not a problem for a business.
You also can't generalize, some sectors rely heavily on selling to the US, some less. For some sectors it could be relatively easily (but still costly, time consuming and problematic) to find a new customers, some sectors will have a much harder time.
Hey hey, the thing is, European companies are still companies, and would prefer to keep trading with the US companies, regardless of what the people wants, and in the short term, it does make trade more difficult.
But I’ll take higher costs for being freer of US trade
Yeah, the original post - and thus most people in this thread - seem to think the EU commissioned this, or that it stands inside (or directly outside) an EU parliament building. It doesn’t. Some clarity on that would have been nice, even though I agree with the message.
When trumpers see this what do they think? Don't they notice THE ENTIRE WORLD is against the Trump admin? So in their minds the WHOLE WORLD is wrong and they are right?
It's a bit naive to think this way. These people see Europe and the rest of the world as either parasties feeding on US wealth, or as their enemies. So when Trump is hated and opposed, for them it's a good sign. So what they think is actually that others hate him because he 'finally protects US from being exploited' and that everyone else is just jealous. You know, the typical 'they hate him because he finally puts great US first'.
They have a back door out of every logical thought pattern. Either it is fake news and the majority really love “America”, or the rest of the world is just jealous!
Yeah, everything they don‘t like is „Fake News“ or „TDS“ and everything Trump does is „great“, „fantastic“, etc. these people are a cult, they stopped think and just follow their cult leader and support everything he does, as Trump said, he could shoot someone in public and they would still love him.
The back bothers me, it doesn’t feel like they depicted gravity’s impact on flesh/fat correctly and the anatomy feels wrong because of that. And having the lower figure more hunched, depicting the weight I think would’ve had more emotional impact
Us Canadians are trying hard to remember that about our average friend to the south, but that man is absolutely destroying your reputation worldwide and as a nation that relies more heavily on international trade and globalism that arguably any other nation, I'm gonna be real, I have no idea how you guys are gonna come back from this one.
Many nations want to see the American dollar and influence crash and burn, and I think your current President is all but guaranteeing it, and once it does your nation is going to find out how truly third-world it really is when its terrible policies aren't being propped up by limitless international trade/wealth.
Wishing you all the best.
Edit: Btw I also have no idea if you specifically are American, but this comment is statistically going to read by more Americans than anyone else.
It might be cliche, or tacky but could someone please ask the artist to commission this masterpiece for a run of miniature figures for key chains, ornaments, and other such trinkets. I think this should be how Mango Mussolini should always be remembered.
Unless we are going to wipe his memory from the face of the Earth when hes finally gone. If thats the case nevermind. Id rather him be forgotten to all of humankind.
They 3d printer thousands of mini versions of it and have been handing them out for over a year. They brought around 6000 3d printed mini versions with them just for this event.
Focusing on Trump ignores the deep sickness in American society from which Trump emerged. Europe likes to shit on the one symbolic focal point of that sickness, but they're in for a nasty surprise when Trump leaves and Europe's relationship with the US continues to degrade.
We are very much aware of this here in Europe already.
One of the biggest things europe is buying from USA is services. Digital in particular.
We are working on replacing that simply because we cant trust USA to be rational anymore.
We know its not ending with Trump.
What do you think it will mean as more and more countries stop trusting USA to pay back their bills ?
Exactly. The USA was never loved in Europe, they were tolerated because it was cheaper to buy from them than spin up and produce stuff domestically.
That ship has sailed though. The reliability is gone.
Iv had tons of folks from the US tell me its bullshit cause Europe is still buying from the US. I suspect they are the same sort of people who are surprised when their partner leaves them..
My POV is European, so I'm not interested in the fixing American society, but I am very concerned about Europe's ability to manage the new geopolitical reality.
Fixing US society would require fundamental changes in the US system that even the most ardent people in the USA wanting changes are unwilling to imagine.
Your deep internal sicknesses are yours to deal with. But just because Trump makes the headlines, doesn't necessarily mean we don't understand where he's coming from and why. It's just that it's part of his job to represent your people abroad. So this statue is as much a mockery of Trump as the expression of our concern about the kind of society that gave rise to such a buffoon. And if his successor is equally as problematic and lunatic (but that's doubtful), they'll get the same level of attention.
Trump is just seen as a symbol of American society. I know very very few who thinks the relationship can ever return to status quo. When hearing our diplomats and other representatives speak, that much is also made painfully clear.
Half a century of built up trust is lost, and it will take as much to build it back up.
Right now we are just keeping it cordial until we are strong enough on our own. Unfortunately, the French were right and most of the rest of Europe ignored them.
Whoever is the next president will surely have improved relations with the EU. All 3 of Trumps predecessors including Bush Jr were very friendly and pro-EU relations. I dont know where you get the idea that Trumps actions are a continuation of an established trend. He is very much going rogue with this stuff.
Is it bold? Trump/MAGAs approval ratings are plummeting and his brand is becoming toxic. Everyone who has suckled at his teat for the last 10 years will need to answer for why they have supported starting foreign wars and tanking the domestic economy.
As much as it can pain us to admit, Trump was something special when he became a mainstream political candidate. His strength and the RP's weakness is that he is an extremely singular indiviudal, a true cult of personality. Nobody can "do" Trump or "do" MAGA in the way that Trump has been able to.
Here's an easy question; close your eyes and picture who the next Republican president is going to be. JD Vance? The most hated vice president in history? Ted Cruz? A man who's biggest recent claim to fame is abandoning his state in the middle of a weather emergency to go on vacation? The only one I could see right now is Rubio, and Rubio is at his core a "moderate" Republican, not MAGA.
I think one of the greatest things Trump and his crew have accomplished is convincing people that they are part of this inevitable turning of the tide of American society. That they are indestructible and very powerful. If you look at how much of Trump's agenda he has actually been able to accomplish, and not just focus on the massive repercussions of his actions that he doesnt control, you will see... the guy cant really get anything done. Everything he tries to do turns to shit, backfires on him and causes him problems. We have 2 more years of this to ride out. Don't expect Trump to do anything but double and triple down on his own personal brand. Do expect the day when Trump realizes he is going to lose and makes a statement along the lines of "All you Republicans are stupid, I never cared about you anyways, youre a bunch of losers and dont deserve me"; because it is certainly coming.
This poster doesn't remember Regan, and doesn't seem to mind that the US spent every day since 2001 killing Arab families. but sure. Trump is the exception, not the rule.
Did Bush Jr really have a great run? We renamed French Fries and French Toast for a while, started multiple wars that lasted decades, and pretty much strong armed most of the world into participating. I can't imagine he had worse relationships by any means because he's a fairly charismatic guy and had much influential and effective people involved, but it was not great times. It helped set the precedent for the current times. We got the Patriot Act after it was revealed the US was spying on everyone illegally. People in general also weren't as supportive of a lot of stuff going on at the time as hindsight makes it appear. It was also crazy times. It might be beneficial to be more pro-active in how the whole situation has unfolded over time to get us to the current situations. The entire relationship within politics and the "Us vs. Them" strategy between the two parties was largely crafted around the Bush Jr. presidencies. He probably wouldn't have had a chance without that and it's plausible the more recent elections wouldn't have beeen possible without it. Certainly not all the ignorant animosity that was promoted. It has been a process.
THE American President has ALWAYS been in the focus of Europe, Biden was, and Ovama as well.
There is a simple reason, Europe is a continent that relies mostly in trade and the US has always been a very important factor for europeans.
Therefore it's just logical that Europeans are outraged when the American idiocracy decides to form a Cult around a deranged sociopathic childmolestor and even crown him as president TWICE...
Apart from that, feel free to address whatever you think the cause for that sickness is. There is always awareness to be gained and things to learn. You could also always create your own post
Then they would have to confront that fact that Europe and South America are going through the same sickness. The extreme right is on the rise globally due to global inequality and slow economic performance.
The US is bi-polar... We had a bad relationship with Buch jr.... a great with Obama, a good with Biden and an incredible bad with Trump...
You guys tend to elect extremes every time and its getting worse. Wouldnt be the first empire that errodes from the inside.
All in all one thing is sure: There is no reliability for more than 4 years... the US can switch to a compeltly different direction every 4 years... it makes it very unpredictable and unable to enter into long-term agreements
I don't think any of them will be surprised. It's not some hidden, trivia-level fact that we hold elections every four years. Business ties have been cut, new ones have been made. By the time Donald Dump is out of office some of those new not-USA business ties will have been going 2-3 years. If they are stable, why the hell would they turn back to the USA even if the house, senate, and presidential seat all go blue? There's always the chance that in 4-8 years the Republicans get back in office and shit all over everything again. We are at a low, low, low point. People aren't just gonna forget this.
I find it rather insane to pin the degraded relationship between US and Europe on the Europe-side. But it is true that the relationship between US and close to every other allied country has taken a huge blow. My guess is that the US will be the big losers in the end.
Agreed however, USA also focusses on symbolic focal points as well. When / if Democrats gain control again the underlying problems will not be solved. This goes for every subject from Politics to healthcare, human rights and so on and so on...
It would only be a surprise of we weren't expecting it. We do. I at least consider the eu/us relationship dead. We will have to do without the us for at least three generations. And we will.
So then what do you suggest? A sculpture of 76 million Trump voters, media ecosystem, economic climate, educational system, Etc that allowed trump? Or maybe could we just understand that Trump is a symbolic representation of all of these problems manifest into one individual. Maybe instead of focusing on the literal pedantic aspect of trump being a symptom and not the cause we could have a greater understanding that focusing on Trump makes the conversation easier but when we all talk about Trump or simultaneously talking about all the things that enabled his rise.
We are fully aware thank you. Dont need spies for that. Just watching whatever government work on tv gives you a good idea of whats going on. Or do you think Jack Smiths hearing was unavailable outside the US?
Trump as a horse with Netanyahu on his back with a whip and cowboy boots would have been better and maybe common people underneath them as a road. Now that would be a statue.
European Parliament delegates putting on their tailored suits, grabbing their morning espresso, and walking past a giant gilded diaperless menace holding a golf club
Only problem I see with this is that the scales he's holding appear to be balanced? Unless there's something symbolic about it that I'm failing to grasp.
I know social media and the internet has let thing spread faster but I seriously don't know any other US President that got this much ridicule. I've seen funny Bush (Sr and Jr), Obama, Nixon, Clinton etc but Trump. Holy moly, has to be a world record at this point.
They show clips of him on the news here in Australia and you sit there watching with your family and after he's finished talking everyone is just like "wtf???" It's like a skit made up to be funny or sad but it's real. It is unfathomable to us that somebody so incoherent and moronic can be in the job he is.
It's crazy that Trump Derangement Syndrome has spread all the way to europe, this might actually be one of the craziest disease spreadings of all time, worse than the plague.
The European mean teenage girl attitude towards trump and America is really really pathetic, always claiming moral high ground. Meanwhile Dutch Queen and Prime Minister were posing with that IS guy, forgive and forget I guess.
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