As someone that has been around quite a bit of drugs… how do you fuck up that badly? Are they not trained to know meth doesn’t look like a shitty tomato sauce? Police need a new training course, and stronger mental health tests. We can’t have dumbasses with guns running around cosplaying fantasies.
The spoon almost certainly was used for meth, just she seemingly also used it to eat most recently prior to the arrest. The cop described it as blackened with faint residue on it. Obviously if that residue was tomato colored, the cop wouldn’t have assumed it was meth. The woman also had a glass meth pipe in plain view and was displaying symptoms of intoxication. She had sores all over her body, gave a false name to the police, and later missed a pre trial appearance in court. It seems the police pulled over a clear meth user and identified her as such. They fucked up by not testing her pipe or doing a blood test, they only tested the spoon, which was negative for meth. But from their perspective they see an intoxicated person with meth paraphernalia in their position and a meth spoon with colorless residue on it. Not exactly surprising they made some assumptions, but making those assumptions constitutes shoddy police work, which is why this woman ended up receiving a 25k settlement for being arrested for something she very likely did
Mugshot is pretty low quality, so I don’t want to speculate if they’re present on her face or not, I know with many users they can be more common on the arms or neck. This is from the description of Ashley from the arresting officer and he didn’t specify where on the body. If you want to completely discount this officers account, then that’s fine, but there are other factors at play that are objective. My only point is that the scenario the headline depicts is definitely not aligned with the reality, and the most likely scenario is that this case involves an active user and police who failed to gather the evidence they should have, not a crooked cop pulling over an innocent young woman eating soup out of a can and tossing her in jail on an entirely fabricating drug charge with no step of the criminal justice process intervening
I’m not a user, and I’m not saying that she shot up right after eating spaghettiOs, I’m saying the opposite honestly, that she potentially regularly used this spoon for meth, but on this day used it to eat. This probably isn’t the norm for meth users, I’d imagine the majority keep their using spoon for that purpose only, but it’s not unheard of and I doubt it’s uncommon for a user to do both. And I understand eating with a meth spoon won’t clean it, presumably this woman actually cleaned her spoon (this won’t get rid of the burnt metal look though) and then used it to eat. She won her court case because the police failed to test her blood or the pipe in her car. They only tested her spoon which I think was indicative of being involved in drug use but hadn’t been used that way prior to the stop. I am making a couple assumptions here, but those assumptions feel pretty reasonable, and they certainly feel more reasonable than the takeaway the headline intends - that an evil cop totally and entirely falsified a police report to put an innocent angel behind bars based off a spoon coated in cherry red tomato sauce
Fair enough I respect your lawyer attitude haha. No there was no syringe, and I fully agree the police work was terrible. The meth pipe being in plain view, meaning it was likely either in the passenger seat or center console, is what lead to the initial search. They didn’t test the pipe or her blood, I’m guessing because they assumed all the evidence they needed was on the spoon. Maybe the pipe didn’t have visual residue on it, or maybe the cops just got lazy. Again, the officer that pulled her over cited signs of intoxication but didn’t notice alcohol scent in the car or on her breath. I am not sure if the DUI charge was dropped or never happened in the first place. To be clear, I do think this woman was met with injustice, not because she was innocent (I’d be willing to bet she was not), but because the police failed to prove she was guilty. And we should expect our police to be held to an exceptionally high standard. I just felt there was a lot of context missing from the headline, and many commenters were kinda running with the headline at face value. Often times when you see a black and white headline, the gray is being omitted
As a guy who use to shoot up meth. You dont use a spoon. Its water soluble. Wouldn't be blackened either cause you dont heat it up. What's your source for all this? If there was meth in the pipe they would've absolutely tested it. Not doing so is pretty incompetent. That picture is clear enough you'd notice scabs and sores on her face.
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u/Own_Oil_7719 28d ago
As someone that has been around quite a bit of drugs… how do you fuck up that badly? Are they not trained to know meth doesn’t look like a shitty tomato sauce? Police need a new training course, and stronger mental health tests. We can’t have dumbasses with guns running around cosplaying fantasies.