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u/BananasPineapple05 9d ago
Anyone who thinks there's any irregularity in Ilhan Omar's immigration status needs to think long and hard about how long she's been in service and how easy it would have been for any of it to come out way before now.
And then, yeah, consider how no paperwork issue for a child refugee could ever come close to the level of legal skirting in Melania Trump's immigration status.
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u/DickWangDuck 9d ago
Itās just like Obamaās birth claims. Itās wild to me people actually believe that a non-American became president. Like, it would be a ridiculous level of lack of oversight and so many people wouldāve had to have been in on it.
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u/ArchelonPIP Prefer Coffee But Fill My Cup š« 9d ago
What can you expect from white bigots, especially the right wing variety?
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u/No_Dragonfruit_8198 9d ago
Thatās every conspiracy theory tho. The amount of people that would have to been in on them and not running their mouth is just too high. People that believe in these theories believe in a fantasy world where the government can do all this clandestine stuff without getting caught. Yet some random guy just knows everything?
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 9d ago
and also factor in the well known historic incompetent buffoonery of the current U.S. executive branch and DOJ. Absolute laughing stocks and embarrassments to the founding fathers. Offensive to liberty itself.
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u/thesanguineocelot Out & Proud š³ļøāš 9d ago
Trump or Epstein bought her a visa. Disgusting, but not surprising.
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u/lonetraveler73 9d ago
Ilhan is much better looking. I don't want to diminish her skills and intelligence. She is much better looking that Melania.
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u/thesanguineocelot Out & Proud š³ļøāš 9d ago
Racists get so fucking weird when it comes to women's appearances. She looks great, but they go absolutely rabid over her.
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u/theseedbeader 9d ago
I remember people cheering that we āfinally have a hot First Lady.ā I never saw it, personally.
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u/B0wmanHall 9d ago
If only they went after the Epstein clients this hard.
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u/Unlucky-Candidate198 9d ago
Head of the FBI is too busy having notsosecret meetings with Orks and denying his severe alcoholism to bother with that.
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u/puppycat_partyhat 9d ago
With the additional irony that Melania can barely f***ing speak English.
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u/born_in_the_90s 9d ago
"I metta dee husbend, vile hangingk upsided down onna dee streeper pole ven I vas twenny tree years olded.
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u/america1008 9d ago
Entirely agree. Since Trump is so transparent, could he show us Melaniaās application, & that of her parents?
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u/Important_Phrase 9d ago
But Ilhan is brown and Melania is white. So it's clear who is illegal and who isn't! /s
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u/Shido_Ohtori 9d ago
ConservatismĀ -- by definition -- is "a political philosophy based on tradition and social stability,Ā stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutionsĀ (such as religion, the family, andĀ class structure), and preferring gradual development to abrupt change".
TheĀ soleĀ value of conservatism is respect for and obedience to [one's perception of] traditionally established hierarchy, and hierarchy dictates that those on top (in-groups) are rightfully idolized and receive privileges, credibility, and resources, while those on the bottom (out-groups) are demonized/dehumanized and/or bound by restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources.
To them, the second-greatest injustice imaginable is for those [they perceive to be] on top [of social hierarchy] to be bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those on the bottom. The first greatest injustice is for those on the bottom to have access to the rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those on top.
Conservatives absolutely need an underclass [for society] to demonize and dehumanize in order to maintain [their] hierarchy, and every single one of their policies and rhetoric work to do exactly that. Unless the accusation is one of disrespecting hierarchy, every right-wing accusation is a confession --Ā every. single. one; always!Ā -- as it is neverĀ the act itselfĀ that upsets them, but rather,Ā the social standingĀ of the person doing the act, as said act is a privilege meant for those on top of [their perceived] hierarchy (See also: pedophilia - Trump and the Catholic church versus LGBTQ+ and drag queens; protests - January 6th vs. BLM and No Kings; parental rights - anti-LGBTQ+ vs pro-LGBTQ+; indoctrination - religion vs. education).
Those who believeĀ all people are peopleĀ see hypocrisy, while those who believeĀ some people are "more/less" people than othersĀ see hierarchy. Hypocrisy implies a sense of equality/parity, as the accusation of such is that someone is violating aĀ universalĀ orĀ commonĀ standard. Hierarchy directly states that thereĀ is no equality/parity, that different social strata have different standards, that the only universal standard concerning hierarchy is that those on top are allowed privileges which are denied to those on the bottom, and that the bottom are held to standards which the top are exempt from.
"Know your place" is their mantra.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 9d ago
U.S. conservatives never got over the women's liberation and civil rights of the 1960s and have worked tirelessly for 6 solid decades to take all the liberalism and progress away. If they aren't repudiated at the ballot box this midterm election, they will fully succeed and take LGBTQ rights away as well. Right wing Christians will be the only Americans with freedom and liberty.
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u/Shido_Ohtori 9d ago
When conservatives feel that society hasĀ progressed too farĀ -- in other words, those traditionally on the lower echelons of [social] hierarchy being accepted and given rights, credibility, and resources reserved for those above their station; and/or those traditionally on the upper echelons being questioned and bound by the restrictions, scrutiny, and lack of resources reserved for those below their station -- they will relinquish the "preferringĀ gradual development to abrupt change" and "social stability" parts, and hearken and appeal to traditional hierarchical institutions, especially those that promote "might makes right", as violence is a tool meant for those on top of social hierarchy to use upon those on the bottom to ensure the latter's submission and obedience. Nationalism and racism are the go-to institutions for such, though sex[ual preference/identity] -- those who don't conform to traditional gender roles/norms/appearances/attitudes -- is also popular; they will demand strict stratification of society and social hierarchy where in-groups and out-groups are clearly defined, where some people are "less people" than others. The former -- by nature -- will shrink as less and less people will be found to be "pure", and virtually everyone is considered "less people" (with significantly fewer rights, credibility, and resources) when compared to the leader at the apex. This is known as beingĀ reactionary, which is the end result of conservatism, leading intoĀ fascism.
From Corey Robin's The Reactionary Mind: Conservatism from Edmund Burke to Donald Trump:
many of the characteristics we have come to associate with contemporary conservatismāracism, populism, violence, and a pervasive contempt for custom, convention, law, institutions, and established elitesāare not recent or eccentric developments of the American right. They are instead constitutive elements of conservatism, dating back to its origins in the European reaction against the French Revolution.
Ever since Edmund Burke invented conservatism as an idea, the conservative has styled himself a man of prudence and moderation, his cause a soberā and soberingārecognition of limits. āTo be conservative,ā we heard Michael Oakeshott declare in the previous chapter, āis to prefer the familiar to the unknown . . . the tried to the untried, fact to mystery, the actual to the possible, the limited to the unbounded, the near to the distant.ā Yet the political efforts that have roused the conservative to his most profound reflectionsāthe reactions against the French and Bolshevik revolutions; the defense of slavery and Jim Crow; the attack on social democracy and the welfare state; and the serial backlashes against the New Deal, the Great Society, civil rights, feminism, and gay rightsāhave been anything but that.
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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 9d ago
Conservatives fail the "fact to mystery" preference test. They prefer fantasy to include sky fairies and End Days porn.
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u/Shido_Ohtori 9d ago
Conservatives project a phantom image of history that has never existed in the first place to capture the emotions of those who long for "the good ol' days", a more simplistic time [of childhood] seen through rose-tinted glasses where "things made sense" because "everyone knew their place" and [children] did not seek -- nor had the means -- to disturb the status quo, and they themselves as children didn't have to worry about finances, politics, or anything of actual substance. In reality, human rights movements and progress -- viaĀ progressiveĀ ideology, specifically "advancing the public good through government action [and] rights and protections for marginalized groups" -- only came aboutĀ becauseĀ of andĀ afterĀ the death and suffering of uncountable victims who lived in the actual "good ol' days", whenĀ social hierarchy was more rigid[ly enforced].
A quick glance on social media show that American conservatives are completely detached from reality via total rejection of logic and reason, regurgitation of outright and obvious lies, and constant use of AI/photoshop/memes/drawings to create images of their worldview that is completely opposite to that of reality. This is because they've been sold on the idea that they're fighting for freedom, individuality, and liberty, when "freedom for the individual from arbitrary authority, and protection and promotion of political and civil liberties" is the literal definition of liberalism, an ideology opposite to that of conservatism. Instead, they toe the line for conservatism, literally "stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions (such as class structure)".
No surprise, as the very founder of modern Western conservatismĀ insist[ed] with brutal frankness thatĀ āillusionsā and āprejudicesā are socially necessary, today's conservatives have coined the term "alternative facts", and studies show thatĀ [search for] truth and intelligence is inversely correlatedĀ with conservative ideology.
- Belief in Fake News is Associated with Delusionality, Dogmatism, Religious Fundamentalism, and Reduced Analytic Thinking
- Religion and Fake News: Faith-Based Alternative Information Ecosystems in the US and EuropeĀ (full article)
- Intelligence is correlated with a range of left-wing and liberal political beliefs.Ā (full article)
- Results confirm that conservatives have lower sensitivity than liberals, performing worse at distinguishing truths and falsehoods
- Conservatives are less truth-discerning than liberals, but also less affected by the congruence of news.
- Across five operationalizations of impaired deliberative thought, hierarchy endorsement increased and egalitarianism receded.
- Conservatism and cognitive ability are negatively correlated.
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u/epiphanyWednesday 9d ago
When you realize they are actively working against democracy, it all makes sense.
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u/Shido_Ohtori 9d ago
They always have, even before Chateaubriand coined the term "conservative".
The terms "left" and "right" were coined during the French Revolution, when those who represented those who traditionally held power sat to the right of the Speaker, leaving those who represented those who traditionally did not hold power to the left of the Speaker. Right would become synonymous with conservative -- stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions -- while left would be anti-conservative, focusing on disrespecting traditionally established hierarchy by promoting political power and resources to those who traditionally lacked such -- those on the lower echelons of social hierarchy.
It is important to note that while some leftists (such as progressives) seek to flatten social hierarchy, others (such as tankies) seek to invert social hierarchy. The former -- advancing the public good through government action and rights and protections for marginalized groups -- promote egalitarianism, while the latter only perpetuates the injustices and inequalities promoted under a stratified (hierarchical) society.
From Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy:
Rational conservatives maintain that a community with a hierarchy of authority is most conducive to human well-being.
Confucius is another possible precursor. His concern with the breakdown of contemporary political institutions led to a cautious, conservative political outlook; his stress on authority and hierarchy prefigures central conservative themes.
With the Enlightenment, the natural order or social hierarchy, previously largely accepted, was questioned.
Western conservatism is a product from the Age of Enlightenment -- specifically, a Counter-Enlightenment, a reactionary challenge to the concepts of Humanism. Its philosophers inherently reject[ed] a society governed by logic and reason, human rights and dignity, science and democracy, as its ideology solely appeal to the authority of traditionally established hierarchies.
From the Intellectual Roots of Conservatism: The Burkean Foundations, the man who is considered to be the founder of modern day Western conservatism had such to say about his ideology:
Burke shocked his contemporaries by insisting with brutal frankness that āillusionsā and āprejudicesā are socially necessary. He believed that most human beings are innately depraved, steeped in original sin, and unable to better themselves with their feeble reason. Better, he said, to rely on the ālatent wisdomā of prejudice, which accumulates slowly through the years, than to āput men to live and trade each on his own private stock of reason.ā Among such prejudices are those that favour an established church and a landed aristocracy; members of the latter, according to Burke, are the āgreat oaksā and āproper chieftainsā of society, provided that they temper their rule with a spirit of timely reform and remain within the constitutional framework.
The very foundation of conservatism demands, promotes, and advances a stratified society where some people are "more/less" people than others via stressing the importance of established hierarchies and institutions (such as class structure) via illusions (lies) and prejudices (bigotries) and "alternative facts".
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u/engineered_academic 9d ago
Melania likely engaged in prostitution re: The Epstein Files and this would make her deportable under the crimes of moral turpitude because she lied on her green card and citizenship applications.
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u/Some-Tear3499 9d ago edited 9d ago
Letās do a little follow up. Who had an anchor baby before becoming a US citizen? Who brought their non English speaking parents , one of whom was a real Communist Party member to the US via chain migration?
Edit. It was the White Woman.
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u/United-Direction2297 9d ago
Thatās too direct. More like āWell one is from one the good countries and the other one is from a sh*t hole country.ā
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u/CommonConundrum51 9d ago
Still waiting for the justification for granting Malaria a 'genius visa.'
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u/redjellonian 9d ago
What exactly is her extraordinary ability?
Managing to get a pedophile to climax without being a child?
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u/Odd-Preparation8790 9d ago
What are the extraordinary abilities she possesses?
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u/Sophisticated-Crow 9d ago
Not puking when being close to trump. You can see how other people struggle with this in a number of videos.
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u/Ginzy35 9d ago
Melania canāt even speak English
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u/Eiffel-Tower777 9d ago
Hold up... she can say...
FOOOOOK CHREEEEZMAS
I WROTE A BOOOOOOK
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Be best
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u/Established-01-1956 9d ago
But Ilhan has the wrong shade of skin color and her name for God is not the "right" one, at least according to our bible thumping friends...
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u/Rough_Common6857 Drama Llama š 9d ago
Deport Melania. She can barely speak English.
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u/AlphaTitan420 9d ago
You forgot she hooked up with a married man and had an anchor baby, then bought her family here through chain migration...
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u/ChildhoodAgreeable88 9d ago
Melania's Einstein visa requires extraordinary ability. Who normally qualifies Reseachers,scientists,engineers Founders, executives Physicians, designers, artists Athletes and coaches Doe's anyone know if she is any of these?
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u/Conscious-Egg2865 9d ago
Someone should tell the"1st bimbo" English is our language. Loose the f n accent for God's sake. Be BEST !!!!
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u/Extension-Variety774 9d ago
To be fair now, one didnāt blow Dumpy McDiaper pants. š¤®
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u/farkus2554 9d ago
Extraordinary ability visa? Because I consider myself a decent person, I won't say what I am thinking.
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u/thatloser17 9d ago
What was her extraordinary ability? Being able to suck Diaper Dons doody covered member without gagging?
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u/NoCondition8257 9d ago
Beyond getting her (admittedly fabulous) boobs out for GQ, what does Melania do that counts as "extraordinary ability"?
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u/Pndrizzy 9d ago
She does have an extraordinary ability. The ability to procreate with DJT is extraordinarily disgusting
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u/ApoplecticAndroid 9d ago
Extraordinary ability??? Can she shoot ping pong balls with her vagina or something?
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u/hopeful7321 9d ago
The First Lady Stripper child trafficker whore always looks mad. It's the evil coming out. Just think, with hard work, she too can one day look like Mrs. Dell.
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u/Snoo93550 9d ago
Thereās hard proof that Melania was an illegal migrant worker. Itās all been made public. The whole push for an immigration crackdown is just racism or Republicans would be outraged and embarrassed of an āillegal alienā First Lady.
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u/fuckDJT2026 9d ago
The thing is, we shouldnāt be shaming either, at least when it comes to the concept of immigration.
We need to completely rethink the way we approach immigration policy, along with the decades worth of repairs this country will need when the maggots are finally gone.
What we shouldnāt do is say this country is āclosed.ā We have enough land to fit millions more.
That said, fuck melania and her pedophile husband
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u/Hot-Meat-11 9d ago edited 9d ago
we shouldnāt be shaming either
Except that there's enough evidence that the former Ms. Knauss was involved in a criminal enterprise to merit a real investigation. It appears that she, like Fredrich Trump (Donald's grandfather), became established in America through illicit means.
There's no debate about Fredrich Trump. It's a matter of the public record. He dodged conscription in his native Germany and was stripped of his citizenship, and made his fortune in America through sex trafficking.
If you changed his name to Fredrico Triunfo and his country of origin to El Salvador, Donald Trump would cite him as an example of an "animal from a shithole country" at his rallies.
For someone who's made illegal immigration his signature issue, and branded criminal immigrants as subhuman, Trump's own family history is rather curious.
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u/DontAbideMendacity 9d ago
Hillary Clinton was subpoenaed to testify about Epstein and she literally never met the man. Trump and Melania were introduced by Epstein, frequented his parties, and shared children with him, and neither was deposed.
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u/SoilDependent1054 Prefer Coffee But Fill My Cup š« 9d ago
Yes, we should. We should shame people who lie on their documents, violate their visa conditions. Shame Melania. Shame.
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u/CXavier4545 9d ago
countryās foundation is built by immigrants, letās work on making the legal processing and vetting more efficient instead of just having open borders
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u/Unlucky-Cup-5461 9d ago
Like the saying goes: it's not how you go, it's who you blow or something like that.
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u/No_Throat_2356 9d ago
*extraordinary ability visa literally for taking her clothes off, which is far from āextraordinary,ā and for which she mustāve lied about her education because she never graduated the college she barely attended and claimed at the time.Ā
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u/According-Insect-992 Just Chill š 9d ago
Melanie is a semi-retired prostitute and that is probably the most endearing fact I know about her awful ass.
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u/_jump_yossarian 9d ago
I bet trump's name is all over her fraudulent visa applications too.
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u/Ephemeral_Orchid 9d ago
Indeed it is, her parent's also jumped the line and were given citizenship during Trump's 1st term in office.
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u/Traditional-Towel592 9d ago
The ex hooker is nothing more than a face and a pulse. Absolute zero brains and contributions to anything but herself.
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u/Downtown-Theme-3981 9d ago
Yea, and i wonder what was this "extraordinary ability", sucked the souls on epstein island? š
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u/Competitive_Ride_943 9d ago
Look into Elon, too. He's on video with his brother admitting that he came on a student visa, then quit school
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u/FairConstruction4105 9d ago
Extraordinary-ability visa....I guess putting up with DJT, and his sh*t kids, is an ability but extraordinary? Please...
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u/lookskAIwatcher 9d ago
Some have suggested that pr-stituti-n should be legalized.
Scowlin Melania might say that would "Be Better".
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u/BagSignal7908 9d ago
Fck sake...
We are past this shit. Everyone and their blind, deaf, dead grandmother know they are corrupt to the core.
Could you do something about it?
Kind regards, the rest of the world.
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u/Spam_Hand 9d ago
Well you know what republican voters always say:
"We dont hate immigrants, we just want them to follow the proper processes! And also not be darker any shade of brown darker than an average Italian - mainly this one."
Definitely didnt embellish that at all, nope.
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u/manokpsa 9d ago
If she ever tried to get a divorce, Trump would probably deport her and Fox News would spin it as him doing his patriotic duty and not being a hypocrite.
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u/Timely_Abroad_7697 9d ago
I'm pretty sure conservatives just want melanin to be outlawed.
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u/Bleak3er 9d ago
Just another example of why Trump will not be transferring power. You think he would be pulling this shit if he thought he was being impeached after the midterms?
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u/Cultural_Mobile_5019 9d ago
Well one is a muslim and the other is a prostitute so which do you think they will go against
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u/ShinePretend3772 9d ago
The racism flows freely when it comes to this woman. Thereās zero shame in the shit these ppl say about her.
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u/BraveLittleTowster 9d ago
Imagine how good of a proustite you would have to be to get an exceptional ability visa. She's probably the literal best lay on earth.Ā
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u/Inside-Out345 9d ago
She was part of EPSTEINāS PARTY GROUP
THAT GETS YOU ACESS TO AMERICA, including the RICH & FAMOUS, admittance to PEDOPHILE PARTYS!!
That is how she met the FUTURE PEDOPHILE PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP$$$$!!!!!
High Crimes and Misdemeanors
ILLEGAL ALIEN & ACCOMPLICE TO CHILDREN BEING RAPED and never reporting it to authorities
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u/Kobobble 9d ago
MAGA doesn't care. It's the fact that she's foreign and educated is what threatens them
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u/Full_Preparation4401 9d ago
Melania's extraordinary ability was wearing lingere and rolling around with other chicks. Softcore Lesbian porn. Not even good porn.
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u/warpwoofwimblee 9d ago
model? is that what they're calling em? im always worried that my models are gonna steal my wallet after our "shoots."
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u/Financial_Molasses67 9d ago
I couldnāt even begin to tell you how much I donāt care if somebody is in the US illegally
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u/MattManSD 9d ago
Melania came on an Einstein Visa....
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u/RoffoSnake 9d ago
One seems to actually love the country that she was allowed to become a citizen of the other is a sitting domestic terrorists.
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u/1cem4n82 9d ago
Do not forget about her when he eventually eats dung. I feel like first lady will slither away unscathed when that happens. She needs to sit down and squawk.
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u/JumpAccomplished2620 9d ago
But one wears a head scarf. So that alone immediately disqualifies herĀ
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u/henriuspuddle 9d ago
Melania is an international embarrassment