THIS IS A PORTUGUESE LANGUAGE LEARNING SUB!

A new resource for the European Portuguese learning community.

Here's a link to the list and the story of how and why it was created:

https://profcaloiro.substack.com/p/a-comprehensive-self-updating-list?r=2iboav

Eu nasci, cresci e vivi minha vida inteira no Brasil e ainda agora eu não compreendo completamente esta bodega:

Quais são as diferenças entre "boutique", "butique", "apothéke", "apoteca", "botica", "bodega", "boteca", "boteco" e "botequim" em português?

Quais são sinônimos APENAS de "farmácia"/"drogaria"?

Quais são sinônimos APENAS de "taverna"/"taberna"?

Quais são sinônimos APENAS de "mercearia"/"mercado"?

Quais são sinônimos de "negócio"/"coisa" em geral?

Que coisa significa "bodego" em português?

"Apotecário/a", "boticário/a", "botiqueiro/a" e "bodegueiro/a" são apenas nomes de empregados ou são também nomes de estabelecimentos em português?

Picture a group chat before a churrasco. Someone asks about the drinks, someone is bringing bread, and then a message lands: Você ficou de trazer o gelo, né?

That means roughly “You agreed to bring the ice, remember?” If you first learned ficar as “stay”, here's another useful construction: ficar de + infinitive. It means to agree or arrange to do something.

Fiquei de levar a sobremesa tells people you agreed to bring dessert. A gente ficou de se encontrar às oito means you arranged to meet at eight. Ela ficou de me mandar o endereço means she said she'd send you the address.

You can even say Fiquei de ligar amanhã: “I agreed to call tomorrow.” The past form refers to the earlier agreement. The phone call is still scheduled for tomorrow.

That's also why Ele ficou de me ligar doesn't tell you whether the call actually happened. Add mas até agora nada, “but nothing so far”, and you have a very different scene: someone is still waiting for that call.

For everyday conversations, compare Você pode trazer o gelo? with Você ficou de trazer o gelo. The first asks you to bring it; the second reminds you of an existing arrangement. Missing that difference can leave you thinking someone is making a new suggestion while everyone else thinks the ice is already your responsibility.

And ficar de doesn't have to involve a forgotten favour. Fiquei de te mandar as fotos. Aqui estão! means “I said I'd send you the photos. Here they are!” Sometimes people do remember.

Have you ever been on either side of você ficou de...? What was the plan, and did it actually happen?

Grew up around it and wondering if you guys feel you love it, hate it or something in between.

Came across clips of this song, but I can't find the actual track name or the artist since people rename it when used on reels or tiktok. I can only understand a few words, but not enough to really Google the lyrics. Google song ID didn't work for me. Audio on TikTok - Click Here

I am trying to follow the Lisbon pronunciation of Portuguese, and I’m curious about how this sound is articulated. Is it simply a "soft" version of the standard "n" sound, or is it produced differently? Sometimes it sounds to me as if it’s articulated with the tip of the tongue toward the front, much like a regular "n," but softer, while at other times, it seems to be produced further back, near the throat, using the back of the tongue, somewhat like a velar "ng" sound. I’m wondering: are both of these pronunciations considered standard in the everyday speech of native speakers, or is there a specific rule that dictates which version should be used in certain contexts?

Furthermore, I’m generally interested in how the everyday speech of native speakers differs from strict linguistic rules, so feel free to share other instances where it’s acceptable to deviate from standard pronunciation or conventional communication norms.

Obrigado :)

ok so i get my comprehension from youtube and i procrastinate by learning how to learn languages(i already know how!) the cool thing about them is noone learns the same so its different all the time! i usually just watch brazilians talking about this but i think i need more, alot of the time its boring. any content ideas? thank you!

I've been watching the Brazilian Netflix series Habeas Corpus and collecting the slang and idiomatic expressions I come across. Here are some of my favourites from today:

• Deixar em banho-maria — To put something on the back burner.
• Ganhar de mão beijada — To have something handed to you on a silver platter.
• Minha palavra não faz curva — My word is my bond; I stand by what I say.
• Me tirar do sério — To drive me crazy / make me lose my temper.
• Não ter colhão pra fazer algo — Not to have the balls or guts to do something. Vulgar/informal.
• Morrer de desgosto — To die of grief / die of a broken heart.
• Nem no enterro foi — Didn't even go to the funeral.
• Cair — Slang for getting arrested or caught by the police.
• Meter o pé no mundão — To head out into the big wide world.
• Não dar moral pra alguém — To ignore someone, not give them the time of day, or not take them seriously.
• Qual é o rolo? — What's the deal? What's going on?
• Esfarelar — Literally, to crumble; figuratively, to crush or destroy someone.
• O dinheiro caiu? — Has the money come through? Has the payment arrived?
• Confiar no próprio taco — To have confidence in yourself and your abilities. Vulgar/informal?
• Perder a linha — To lose your cool or lose control of yourself.

Hope some day i naturally get a feel for these because seems to be never ending list of random phrase i can't quite get on first listen lol

BTW if any of the translations are wrong let me no!

The phrasal verb "fartar-se de" means to do something excessively. Meanwhile, the negation "não se fartar de" means to do something constantly because you love it.

Well, aren't these two meanings... kind of the same? So "fartar-se de" and "não se fartar de" actually have similar meanings, kind of like how the English words "flammable" and "inflammable" mean the same?

Sejam sinceros, vcs se lembram classificação da sílaba tônica: oxítonas, paroxítonas e proparoxítonas?

eu assisti dois vídeos sobre o alfabeto em português, um vídeo ensinou o alfabeto como a bê cê dê ê éfe guê agá i jota kapa éle éme éne o pê quê érre ésse tê u vê dáblio xis ípsilon zê, mas o outro vídeo ensinou o alfabeto como a bê cê dê ê éfe gê agá i jota ka éle ême êne o pê quê érre ésse tê u vê dáblio xis ípsulon zê, algumas letras tem nome diferente, é serio, não me diga que ATÉ O NOME das letras muda dependendo do sotaque!!! ;-;

We start with Latin, where there was the word "memorō", the infinitive form being "memorāre". The first change to note is in the prosody: as we move from Classical Latin to Late Latin/Proto-Romance and subsequently to Western Romance, the stress pattern shifted from vowel length to intensity—broadly speaking, this meant that the phonological distinction between short and long vowels in Latin disappeared, giving way to a system where stressed syllables are emphasized at the expense of unstressed syllables, causing the elision of unstressed vowels, resulting in "memrar" at this stage.

Here, a systematic phonological change takes place, not only in Portuguese but essentially throughout the entire Romance linguistic area, where the consonant clusters /mr/ become /mbr/, since, for the lack of a better term, these clusters are difficult to pronounce, resulting in the form “membrar”; this same phenomenon occurs in the word "ombro", which comes from the Latin "umerus" with elision of the second vowel.

In many Romance languages, this is the form that has been preserved, and it's ultimately the origin of the “member” in the English word "remember" (from Old French "membre"); in Portuguese, however, this was not the form that came to be in the contemporary language.

What follows is a dissimilation of the initial /m/s: the first /m/ becomes an /n/, giving us the form "nembrar", already attested in medieval Galician-Portuguese.

What happens then is a very simple change, however a remarkably rare one that isn't systematic at all in Portuguese, where the initial /n/ turns into an /l/. The how is very simple, /n/ and /l/ share (or at least used to at this stage of the language) the exact same point of articulation, making the sound change conceptually plausible. Now the why is less clear; my assumption at first was another dissimilation process, but looking at the very few words that went through this sound change or one parallel to it (particularly, *naranja --> laranja and leixar --> deixar), there seems to be no substantial difference between either the point or the manner of articulation between each stage, and as far as i know there really isn't a lot of literature specifically about this peculiar shift, let alone hypotheses behind it, so jury's still out on that one. Either way, we reach the the modern form, lembrar.

The reason for why I love this evolution is that, although the modern word is unrecognizable from the Latin root whence it originated, to such an extent that I doubt any speaker of modern Portuguese would be able to associate lembrar with its neoclassical doublet memorar (or a more commonly used derivation, memorizar) — to the point that even I, who has a background in linguistics, failed to recognize this connection for a very, very long time — the meaning has remained exactly the same throughout over 2000 years of constant evolution: the Latin memorō meant “to remember,” so does the current word. Not that this is absurdly uncommon, but in my experience, when it does happen, either the modern form remains visibly derived from the Latin root, or the modern form is so, so obscure that, despite still appearing in dictionaries or historical corpora, in practice it is no longer part of the language’s lexicon. But with “lembrar,” we have a verb that’s unique in that not only has there been very little semantic shift, but it would also be difficult to arrive at the Latin root by simply applying systematic sound changes, all while being one of the most widely used verbs in the Portuguese language across basically all its varieties, and I think that’s really cool.

Hello, I came to ask if my Portuguese transliteration was any good for No Batidão. I have never heard a Portuguese word in my life, but I thought it would be fun to try. By the way, my only language is English. Here are my transliterated lyrics below (the “ssaint” is as in ”crossaint”):

"Eh eh-la dess, eh-la so-be, no ball-eh pressaint"

(E-ela desce, ela sobe, no baile, é pressão)

"Mina-leenda, pairigosa, hoba-meh coraessaint"

(Mina linda, perigosa, rouba meu coração)

"Vai-ki condo, vai-shi gondo, no perja hassaint"

(Vai quicando, vai jogando, não perde a razão)

"No batido, no batido, so pura tenassaint"

(No batidão, no batidão, só pura tensão)

From the song super heroi:

I guess it means "I wish I could fly" but I dont understand the first part and how it is constructed: quem me dera sounds like who would give me (and then he uses eu + infinitivo?!)

In spanish it would be different: ojala pudiera volar...anybody can help with this? Is it a unique idiom that only exists in portuguese?

Hello everyone, I am a medical doctor. I am planing on persuing my residency in brazil and i want to start learning portuguese, i saw the megathread but i want a resources where I can learn the medical terminology from. Does anyone have any idea where to find this content like a textbook or a youtube channel for example. Thank you in advance!

I am a transgender man and I've been using a tutor to help with my self study of Portuguese. I speak and read A2-B1 Portuguese but I figured I should ask a general audience. Would Brazilians mind me switching between masculine or feminine usage or should I stick to one?

Non-native here. I'm looking for the everyday term for things like aluguel, luz, internet, celular, streaming and insurance, the stuff that's due every month.

Which one sounds most natural to you?

• contas fixas
• despesas fixas
• gastos fixos
• contas do mês / contas a pagar
• something else?

Do any of these sound too formal or too business-like? If you kept a list of them in a notebook or a spreadsheet, what would you call it?

Obrigado!

Update: obrigado, everyone. This helped more than I expected.

Some context on why I asked: I'm a solo dev with a small app for keeping track of the bills and subscriptions that leave every month. It's been in 6 languages, and this week I added Portuguese, Italian and Polish. I didn't want the Brazilian version to sound like a translated finance textbook, so I asked real people instead.

What I went with:

• contas do mês for the whole thing
• pagamento for a single item (I avoided "conta" on its own, since in the app it would get mixed up with your account)
• pago once it's paid

Also learned what a boleto actually is, and that I'm probably too old to say it without sounding cringe. Valeu demais!

A friend sends you a document and asks: Você pode dar uma olhadinha nisso? Could you take a quick look at this? You open the attachment. Forty pages.

There’s a useful everyday pattern behind that request. Olhar gives us olhada, ler gives us lida, and arrumar gives us arrumada. With dar uma, these forms can present an action as brief or limited. That can also make a request sound less demanding.

Vou dar uma lida no seu texto means something like “I’ll have a read through your text.” Depending on the situation, that can suggest an initial pass rather than a detailed review.

Before visitors arrive, vou dar uma arrumada na sala means “I’ll tidy up the living room a bit.” You might put the cups away and clear the sofa. You haven’t necessarily committed to reorganizing the bookshelves.

And if someone suggests a plan, vou dar uma pensada means “I’ll give it some thought.” It gives you a natural way to say you’ll consider it before answering.

Notice that the smaller scale is already possible in dar uma olhada, before you add -inha. Dar uma olhadinha can make the favor sound smaller still. Neither expression tells you exactly how long the job will take, though. The wording can make the request modest; the attachment still has forty pages.

What’s the biggest task someone has ever introduced to you as an olhadinha? And which other dar uma… expressions do you hear or use?

Hello! I just hit 300 hours of learning Brazilian Portuguese. This is just a short post to share the weekly video I made. It includes a demonstration of my listening and speaking skills, if you want to see that. I will make a more in-depth post soon.

Here's the video if you want to check it out! https://youtu.be/7qcm0fUnuKo

Hola gente, soy hablante nativo de español, por lo que siento que para mi es mas facil aprender portugues, me parece que el portugues es un idioma bonito y fluido, por eso me gustaria aprenderlo, pero no se por donde comenzar, como creen que deba aprender a hablar este idioma y entenderlo, la verdad si quisiera hablar portugues pero no se que hacer ni por donde comenzar.

tenho aprendo por 3 mes mas eu apenas estudar talvez 5 minutos todo outro dia ou quando quero e quero melhoras mas eu apenas precisar ajudar com consistência e dedicação:( por favor todos ideias quero