Is this normal for a mouse to be priced same as 310hz-27inch-4k monitor?
What' your opinion on gaming mouse prices?

Update. Here are cheaper alternatives proposed in comments.

ATK https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/browse?brand=atk&weight=27,47
→ F1 V2/V3 ($40-100, 36-45g)
→ U2 Mini/Ultra/Pro ($35-85, 39-44g)
→ A9 Mini/Air ($65-80, 39-47g)

Mchose https://www.eloshapes.com/mouse/browse?brand=mchose&weight=13,51
→ Mchose L7 (around $50, 39-48g)

Wrist and arm move on arcs, so a flick to the right isn’t the mirror of a flick to the left. Most of us overshoot in some directions and come up short in others, and we compensate without noticing.

I built FlickTune to measure that and correct it.

How it works

• You play short rounds in a 3D arena - like AimLabs. Targets come from all 360°, at your real in-game sensitivity (you enter game, sens, DPI and FOV).
• For every flick it records where your first fast movement landed, before any correction, plus reaction time, flick time, correction time and time to hit.
• It compares each direction with your own typical landing. Everyone’s first movement stops a bit short (mine is about 89%), and that’s normal, so it’s not treated as a problem.
• It then tunes RawAccel’s directional settings: left/right, up/down, vertical/horizontal ratio and rotation. Your overall sensitivity doesn’t change, only the balance between directions.
• There’s an endless round where it keeps tuning in small steps (at most 3%) while you play.

What’s under the hood

• It uses the official signed RawAccel driver, unchanged, and adds no acceleration. FlickTune doesn’t read or touch any game; it only writes RawAccel’s settings.
• Every change is saved to a history with your before and after values, and any step can be undone.
• Limits keep one side from drifting too far from the other (left vs right, up vs down), so your hand doesn’t slowly walk across the mousepad.
• It works with high polling rate mice (tested at 2–4 kHz).

Download: https://github.com/kicedz/flicktune-releases/releases/latest

Windows 10/11. The installer isn’t code-signed yet, so Windows may show “Windows protected your PC”: More info → Run anyway. It updates itself.

It’s early (v0.2.3) and I’m actively working on it. I’d love feedback, especially from people who already use RawAccel, or who’ve noticed they aim differently in different directions. Bug reports welcome.

FlickTune © 2026 Kice Djingov. Powered by RawAccel (MIT, © a1xd).

Hey,
so I'm having a Lamzu Thorn for quite a while now, but it started the mousewheel problem. I can get it to work with the "mousewheel on table" trick, but I would like to replace it. I ordered a superlight 2 dex, but this doesn't feel right at all. I would like to have something thats similar, while having a better mousewheel (I really did like the superlight 2 mousewheel tho), and maybe slighty better quality overall, but the thorn does seem solid, just from looking at the superlight, the build quality is really great on it.
From my research, most people got with something like the pulsar x3, maybe deathadder v4 (I was not a fan of Razer in the past at all so I wouldnt really like to go with it), some said atk z1 or even thorn v2, but I heard a lot of different things on it.

If you got anything that helps me with my decision, I would be really glad.

hey guys,

imma need your help. i have this weird issue with my mouse which causes stutters. so basically after long hours of investigation and trying variety of different things like chipset update, changing USB ports couple of time, making sure my dongle is close to my mouse (it's right in front of my mouse pad) and it's worth mentioning that stutters occurs both wired and wireless (i'm using original vaxee cable), i've also turn off USB hub power saving settings so my ports doesn't turn off, but after all the research i've been trying to make with gemini i didn't fix it, so maybe someone of y'all had the issue and know how to fix it. i would be really greatful for any advice and ideas.

thanks

SteelSeries Sensei Pro Mini Wireless – My Thoughts

Been using the Sensei Pro Mini for a little while now and I have some mixed feelings about it.

Shape & Comfort:

For reference, I have 18cm hands and mainly use aggressive claw and relaxed claw. Honestly I'm not really a fan of the shape, I've tried getting used to it but it just doesn't feel right in my hand. I find myself adjusting my grip pretty often just to get comfortable, I wouldn't say the shape is bad but it's definitely not for me.

Clicks & Build Quality:

The clicks are actually pretty nice, they feel responsive and satisfying. The build quality is solid overall and I haven't noticed any creaking or flexing, so no complaints there.

Performance:

Nothing to complain about here either, tracking has been consistent and I haven't experienced any noticeable wireless issues while gaming. Everything feels smooth and works as expected.

Overall:

I think SteelSeries did a pretty good job with the mouse overall but the shape is what really holds it back for me. The clicks, build quality and performance are all good, but none of that really matters if I can't get comfortable using it.

I wanted to like this mouse more than I actually do, but I just can't see myself maining it. It's not a bad mouse at all, just one that doesn't really suit my grip style.

Curious to hear what others think about the shape, especially anyone with similar hand sizes or grip styles.

I've gone ~2 years with a Razer Viper Mini and 5,5 years with a G-Wolves Hati S Ace Wireless previously. My experiences with both of those 2 were overall positive but I didn't really love either.

Bought the Endgame Gear OP1w 4k since it was the cheapest small mouse I found at the time, as it was on sale for 45€. And I'm thankful for that because the other options I was looking at were all 100-200€.

For now this is my 1st day thoughts. I'll continue to update this review as I use it, as I did for my Hati S Ace Wireless. Also I remeasured my hand size, I prolly just had it wrong on that review and didn't count my thumb or some.

Packaging:

Mouse, wireless dongle & the USB cable, but also:

• 1x replacement mouse skates
• 1x mouse grip tape for both sides
• Screwdriver for the mouse

Quality:

For now I can't really complain about quality. The buttons seem functional & the mouse seems solid. I do prefer the scrollwheel & buttons on the Hati S Ace Wireless, but as long as these don't break it's literally a non-issue.

Shape:

Shape is very similar to a Razer Viper Mini, though seems even friendlier towards small hands. It's low profile, thin and has practically no hump. The scroll wheel is a bit easier to reach, and the sides are a bit narrower. I personally can't claw grip either of these mice due to the lack of a hump. Both mice are also long, so fingertip is also out of question.

The Hati S Ace Wireless is a mouse I used for the past 5,5 years. It's bigger due to its hump and width. It was actually so large I had to entirely alter my grip style due to severe pain when playing for extended periods of time. While on paper these mice are similar width, in practice the HTS Ace Wireless does feel significantly larger.

Also yeah I've had a bit of a weird problem with the scroll wheels. Like the Viper Mini had it so far forward that I had to palm grip that mouse. It doesn't seem to be a major issue with this OP1w 4k, though it's still fairly far forward.

Visual comparisons to go along with my experiences if interested: Eloshapes Comparison

Conclusion:

Great mouse. Maybe bad for a proper claw grip, and at my hand size I can't even fingertip it.

ProtoArc sent me an EM11 Pro as part of their tester program, so disclosure out of the way: I received the mouse for free, but these are entirely my own thoughts.

For reference, my hand is roughly 20 x 9.5 cm (length x width).

I used the EM11 Pro for 8+ hours a day at first, mostly for work, and there are actually a lot of things I really like about it. The coating feels nice and comfortable, the main clicks are good and very quiet, the two metal wheels feel great, and both the wheels and side buttons are very well positioned.

The device switcher is probably my favourite feature. Being able to switch devices so easily is something I hadn't seen implemented like this before, and after using it I honestly wish all mice had it. It's such a great feature and the comfort of not having to lift up the mouse to switch device is unparalleled. The dongle storage is also a nice touch, and the mouse feels surprisingly well balanced laterally despite its shape.

Unfortunately, the shape itself just doesn't work very well for me.

The middle of the mouse is quite wide, which keeps my thumb further away from the other fingers than I'd like. Probably due to my thumb being relatively short, I prefer a narrower, more "pinching" grip, closer to something like the Keychron M5. With the EM11 Pro I eventually start getting wrist pain during longer sessions, which is why I ended up switching back to the M5 for most of my daily use.

Even though it wasn't the case for me, the long wrist/palm support will probably be a positive for plenty of people, so I wouldn't take my experience as meaning the mouse is inherently uncomfortable. Hand shape and grip seem particularly important with this one.

A few smaller things I noticed:

• The front gap seems unnecessary to me. Filling that area could potentially improve the forward balance as well, since I occasionally felt the mouse wanted to tip slightly when moving forward.
• The coating feels very nice but picks up skin oils fairly easily, and I'm a little unsure about its long-term durability.
• The main scroll wheel is a bit too easy to accidentally click while scrolling upwards.
• The skates are decent, but I can hear/feel more scratching that I would like on my SteelSeries QcK XXL. Harder surfaces will probably be fine.
• I wish the skates were bigger and more uniform, they are small and sparse which leads me to believe that contributes to the scratchiness. If the front was united, having a single bigger front skate matching the back skate would be a good option.
• I'd like to see higher polling-rate options, even on an office-focused mouse.
• The sensor and lift-off distance are perfectly usable for normal office work, but the tracking could be better for more accuracy-sensitive tasks. If you plan on using this mouse for any kind of precision work and/or gaming, this may not be your best option.
• I also had a few rare connectivity hiccups, mostly over Bluetooth. I have a lot of wireless devices around me, so interference is possible, although this was the only device giving me trouble. Nothing turning it off and on didn't solve, though.

So, bit of a mixed result for my particular hand and grip, but I actually think there's a good mouse underneath that incompatibility. There are several genuinely clever details here, and it's obvious quite a bit of thought went into the design.

If the shape suits you, especially if you like a wider vertical mouse with plenty of palm/wrist support, I can see the EM11 Pro being a very comfortable productivity mouse. I just wish the centre was narrower, because that one change would probably make a massive difference for me.

Hey guys, I need some help troubleshooting a persistent scratching/dragging issue.

My Setup;

• Mouse: ATK A9 Mini+ (Using relaxed claw grip)

• Skates: Esports Tiger ICE V2 DIY Dots (8-dot layout)

• Mousepad: Aukey thick/soft stitched cloth pad

What I've already done:

1. Completely peeled off the thick transparent plastic factory film from the bottom of the mouse base.

2. Cleaned out all the original black stock skate adhesive residue down to the bare black plastic shell.

3. Removed the clear protective film from the tops of the ICE V2 dots.

4. Set up a balanced, symmetrical 8-dot layout (corners, middle edges, and bottom center) to distribute weight.

Despite all of this, I still feel a distinct scratching or catching sensation whenever I swipe the mouse on my Aukey pad.

Since the layout is even and the base is clean, is the ATK A9 Mini's sensor ring border known to catch on softer cloth pads when pressing down? Or are these ICE V2 dots just too thin to clear the deep base indents of this mouse?

Any advice or similar experiences would be appreciated!

My review on the X3 Superstrike from Logitech!

TL:DW

Skates are bad
Side buttons are bad
Scroll wheel still bugging
Cost/value is bad

But it has HITS though!!!

If I couldn't use this mouse in other videos I would be instantly returning it, for me its 100% not worth it at its current price.

Let me know what you think!

I was looking to upgrade from my g203 to a wireless mouse,i was thinking about:

ATK VXE Dragonfly R1 S 28€(on Amazon)

ATTACK SHARK R1 Superlight 37/40€ (on Amazon)

The budget Is 40<,wich one would you guys recommend?

If u know other mouse that are better nd around the same price lmk

PS: I play claw grip (idk if this changes something)

I have the darmoshark m5, the scroll wheel is a standard 24steps one but it’s larger than some other mice, so the steps feel more defined and very distant.

The problem is when i use it in apex to jump or tap strafe. For example, when doing zipline superjump u press ur interact key+jump( most people bind jump to scroll wheel to get the timing right )

when doing the superjump i have to scroll really slow to get it to work, unlike other mice I can’t scroll fast or it will not work, it would give me a normal jump. Is not detecting the steps at the correct time needed for the tech? Any solutions?

It might be messing up my lurches in apex cuz you need to do constant scrolling for that

I am looking for a mouse, specifically one like logitech g600 or razer naga trinity, that has 12 side buttons, and is also compatible with ps5. I know some of these only operate with the software for them, but if there is any mouse, or method, that i can use to be able to access all 12 side buttons on ps5, please let me know.

Soo my razer orochi v2 broke and i need a new mouse. I use amazon de for buying tech and I'm from Europe. Any recommendations? I was considering attack shark x3, logitech g305...

Hello!

My old G305 developed some issues after 6 years and I'm looking for something to replace it with. I love the shape and overall ergonomics of that mouse. I use it mostly professionally with some light gaming after work when travelling with it.

It has to be wireless, dongle+BT for my work PC so I don't have to bother with dongles when unnecessary, I don't really mind the weight, though I'd prefer it to have built-in battery so I don't have to think about AAs. Extra points for side scroll buttons and continuous scrolling.

Right now I'm looking at MCHOSE G3 V2 and Logitech G305 X Superlight. The first one costs less than half of Logitech, but I have no way to check the grip and feel before the purchase and I'm honestly new to chinese brands. I also considered G309 but I found the grip to be oddly uncomfortable to me.

Which one would you pick in my shoes? Do you have any recommendations aside these 2? This is also my secondary work/travel mouse so I don't want to spend too much.

I've been wondering what my mouse grip style would be called. I've seen many pro players use different grip styles, including left-handed players like me, but I haven't come across anyone who holds their mouse quite like I do.

My grip looks somewhat like a relaxed palm grip, but my fingers change position depending on the weapon I'm using. It almost feels like I have two different grip styles: a "rifle grip" and an "AWP grip."

When using rifles, my middle finger tends to curl more, while my index finger stays relatively relaxed or slightly curled, depending on the situation. When using the AWP, both fingers tend to curl more.

I'm currently using a Pulsar X2A (Size 2), but I'm considering switching to the Pulsar X3 LHD CrazyLight Mini, an ergonomic mouse designed for left-handed users.

I've attached two pictures showing how I hold my mouse. Has anyone seen a similar grip before? Would you consider this a relaxed palm grip, a hybrid grip, or something else?

I went through 4 different models of wireless mouse in the last 6 years...

3 had the "wheel goes crazy" problem where you scroll up, it scrolls a notch down, or you scroll down, it scrolls a notch up.

1 was a mouse that had that quirk of only requiring a tiny movement of the wheel to go up or down even when brand new, resulting in almost the same issue as stated above, imprecise and "jumpy" scrolling. I know it's a feature, working as intended, I still throughly hate it and can't stand it.

Any reliable mice that doesn't suffer from either of these issue or feature that can also work well on surfaces like on a bed. It's my "bed mouse", I used an old and very reliable wired steelseries Kana as my deskptop mouse.

Oh, I'd also like a mouse with a AA battery if possible, if not, at least a long battery life that doesn't cost an arm and a leg.

Does that even exist?

Clarification: It's not for gaming, doesn't need to be fancy, just a functional basic mouse that doesn't fail on the wheel within a few years. Affordable = less than 100$ CAD ( 70$ USD ).

The AJ159 NL P is a great mouse, but the software that comes with it is Windows only. On Linux you get no battery percentage, no way to change the DPI stages, and no way to touch the polling rate. I wanted the battery readout especially, so I built a small panel for it.

The interesting part was working out what the mouse actually speaks. The vendor app is the only thing that talks to it properly, so I captured its USB traffic and decoded the frames. It turned out to be a HID vendor collection on report id 6, and hidraw can talk to it directly. No root, no usbfs, no kernel driver, just the Python standard library and one HTML file. The mouse answers on the same node, which is how you get the battery even when the mouse is asleep.

What the panel does now:

- shows the real battery percentage, charging state, and which node answered

- reads and edits all six DPI stages

- switches which stage the mouse is actually using

- sets the polling rate to 125, 250, 500 or 1000 Hz

- has a system, light and dark theme, because I wanted it to look like a real desktop app and not a phone card in a browser

The interesting discovery was that there is no "select stage" command at all. The mouse just uses whichever stage frame it received last. That took a while to pin down, and it also exposed a bug in my own panel where every DPI edit quietly moved the mouse to stage 6, which is 3200 DPI. It is fixed now.

One thing worth warning about if you try this yourself: early on I sent a frame with an empty payload to the wrong class and wiped the mouse's button map. Twice. Only the vendor's "Restore Factory Settings" recovered it, because the frames that write the button map were never in the capture. Since then the panel refuses those classes outright, and every write is read back from the mouse and rolled back if it does not match. I would rather the panel say "rejected" than leave your buttons broken.

It is here if you want it: https://github.com/alfaisaldev/AJ159-NL-P-web-based-driver-micetil

The button map is still not editable from Linux, since I do not know the frame that writes it and a wrong guess costs you the buttons. The protocol notes are in the repo, including the wrong turns, in case someone else wants to pick that up.

I think it's time for me to move on from logitech. Loved the superlight pro but the side buttons suck and gave out quickly. And its old hehe.

The current options im looking at are the

-ATK Dragonfly A9 Ultimate

-Viper V4 Pro.

Are there any other models I should consider? I do love the shape of the superlight so im leaning towards A9. I mostly play FPS games. I have a 502 for non-fps games.

Side question for ATK mice - Is there a newer model thats better than the A9 series? (better tech, sensors, battery, etc)

Hey I was looking forward to get some new skates for my superstrike x2 but I don’t know which one I should choose. I have an artisan fx zero xsoft and superglide type c and it feels stiff and I don’t know I think I’d like to try smth else. My friend recommended getting esp tiger v2 but he told me to get like those whole skates not dots. I was also thinking about getting superglide type s. Can someone recommend me or tell me what I should get cus I’m new to those skates.

I bought an original Asus ROG Chakram mouse in 2022.

Recently, the wifi dongle of the mouse stopped working. I did try to troubleshoot with shooting air to the dongle, trying different ports, and trying on a different PC, but still not working.

The mouse is still in a great condition and works fine with wired and bluetooth connection.

After realizing that this is a USB dongle problem, I contacted the ASUS support to see if I can purchase a new dongle. What they told me is that the dongle is a part of the mouse, and that they cannot sell a USB dongle separately.

What they offered was having me send in my mouse for a repair with me covering the shipping cost of the mouse back and forth + unrefundable $35 CAD RMA fee + any additional repair cost that may occur, which is absolutely absurd.

It wouldn't be any hard for them to sell a dongle separately, and have customers pair their peripherals with a new dongle if needed.

But no, with Asus products, you are SOL if you lose the USB dongle, or the USB dongle stops working. Is this a common practice with wireless gaming mice?