r/MonarchButterfly • u/No-Current3902 • 3h ago
First time
Next year Ill be ready. They loved live plants rather than the leaves so I'll be planting milkweed in pots. How do they look?
r/MonarchButterfly • u/SNM_2_0 • Jun 28 '26
We are now getting many posts in this subreddit that try to demonize the rearing of monarch butterflies. If you raise monarch butterflies, you have almost certainly been told that “the science doesn’t support it.” You may have read in this sub that reared monarchs can’t migrate, that rearing spreads disease, or that you are actually hurting the species you love. These claims are often presented as settled scientific consensus.
They are not.
A careful look at the peer-reviewed literature tells a much more nuanced and, frankly, more encouraging story. While there are legitimate questions about large-scale commercial breeding and the importance of rearing under natural conditions, the weight of the evidence shows that small-scale, responsible rearing by hobbyists and educators is not a meaningful threat to monarch populations. In fact, several lines of research suggest it can be a net positive.
Below is a summary of what the published science actually shows.
One of the most persistent myths is that captive-reared monarchs cannot orient or migrate. This claim traces largely to a 2019 laboratory study that tested commercially bred monarchs in a confined flight simulator and found they did not orient south. However, subsequent research has significantly complicated and, in many cases, contradicted that conclusion.
A landmark 2021 study by Wilcox and colleagues at the University of Guelph reared monarchs indoors under controlled conditions and then both tested them in a flight simulator and radio-tracked them in the wild using over 100 automated telemetry towers. While the simulator results showed weak orientation, 97% of the radio-tracked monarchs flew in the correct south to southeast direction once released into the natural environment. The monarchs were detected at distances of up to 200 km from the release site. The researchers concluded that any disorientation caused by captive rearing is temporary and that proper orientation is re-established after exposure to natural skylight cues (Wilcox et al., 2021, Conservation Physiology).
This finding aligns with a large-scale tagging study by James and colleagues, who captive-reared and tagged over 14,000 monarchs across the Pacific Northwest. Of the 182 that were later recovered, the vast majority were found at overwintering sites in California. Recovered monarchs traveled average distances of 630 to 900 km, demonstrating clearly successful migration (James et al., 2021, Journal of the Lepidopterists’ Society; James et al., 2021, Insects).
More recently, a 2025 study by Matter and colleagues, which used a novel balloon-based flight simulator that lifted monarchs 30 meters into the air, found that wild-derived monarchs reared under autumn-like conditions in a growth chamber displayed southward orientation, larger wing sizes, and partial reproductive diapause, all hallmarks of migratory readiness. This study confirmed that environmental cues during development, not simply whether the butterfly was “wild” or “captive,” are what drive migratory behavior (Matter et al., 2025, bioRxiv/PNAS).
The research consistently shows that how you rear monarchs matters far more than whether you rear them. A 2020 study by Schroeder, Majewska, and Altizer found that monarchs reared under autumn-like conditions, cooler temperatures and shorter day lengths, showed greater flight efficiency and lower post-flight metabolism compared to those reared under summer-like conditions. In other words, mimicking natural fall conditions during rearing produced butterflies that were physiologically better prepared for migration (Schroeder et al., 2020, Ecological Entomology).
Even the 2019 study that raised concerns about captive rearing (Tenger-Trolander et al., PNAS) noted that wild-caught monarchs reared outdoors in autumn oriented south normally. The problems arose primarily with commercially bred populations that had been kept in captivity for many generations, and with butterflies that eclosed entirely indoors without exposure to natural environmental cues.
The practical takeaway is clear: hobbyists who rear wild-sourced eggs and caterpillars, keep them in conditions that reflect the natural season, and provide exposure to outdoor light and temperature cycles are producing butterflies fundamentally different from those in long-term commercial breeding operations. Lumping all “captive rearing” together obscures this critical distinction.
In the wild, monarchs face staggering mortality. Estimates suggest that only about 2–5% of eggs survive to become adult butterflies, with some researchers citing mortality rates as high as 99% (WWF-Canada, 2014). Predation, parasitism, weather, and disease take an enormous toll at every stage.
By contrast, careful rearing under controlled conditions routinely achieves survival rates of 80–90% or higher from egg to adult (Pleasants, 2017). This represents a dramatic, multi-fold increase in survival. When you protect a caterpillar from tachinid flies, stink bugs, and paper wasps, you are not “interfering with natural selection” in any meaningful population-level sense—you are giving that individual a chance to join the migratory population instead of becoming a statistic.
A citizen-science study also found that monarchs raised on swamp milkweed (Asclepias incarnata) showed particularly strong growth and survival rates, suggesting that host plant choice during rearing can optimize outcomes (Pocius et al., 2018, Environmental Entomology).
A comprehensive 2024 review of the western monarch population by entomologist Dr. David James of Washington State University examined all major stressors facing monarchs and concluded that human interference—including capture and rearing—“likely has the least impact on monarch populations” compared to the real drivers of decline. Those primary drivers are neonicotinoid insecticides, habitat loss, climate change, and severe winter storms (James, 2024, Insects).
To put the scale in perspective: even if every hobbyist rearer in North America collectively produced 500,000 monarchs in a given year, that would represent less than 0.1% of the estimated 300-million-member migratory population (Pleasants, 2017). The notion that home rearing is a significant driver of population decline simply does not hold up against the numbers.
Major conservation frameworks agree. The Western Association of Fish and Wildlife Agencies’ monarch conservation plan does not identify personal rearing as a primary threat. And the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service’s own proposed Endangered Species Act listing (December 2024) specifically includes an exemption allowing individuals to collect, rear, and release up to 250 monarchs per year—a clear acknowledgment that small-scale rearing is compatible with conservation (USFWS Proposed 4(d) Rule, 2024).
Another common concern is that monarchs living year-round in urban gardens on non-native milkweed are somehow draining or contaminating the migratory population. A 2025 study from UC Davis directly tested this hypothesis and found no support for it.
The researchers surveyed East Bay neighborhoods over two years, counting milkweed plants, eggs, caterpillars, and adults, and testing butterflies for the OE parasite. They found that resident urban monarchs are essentially disconnected from the migratory population and are not acting as a population “trap.” As senior author Elizabeth Crone put it, these resident populations are “a bit of a red herring” as a cause of migratory decline. The study concluded that urban ecosystems can contribute positively to monarch conservation without harming migratory populations (Erickson et al., 2025, Ecosphere).
Research has shown that monarchs can tolerate a range of stressors without the dire fitness consequences sometimes attributed to captive conditions. For example, a study on road salt exposure found no measurable effects on wing coloration, survival, body size, immunity, or parasite prevalence, demonstrating the species’ robustness (published in Ecology and Evolution, 2019).
Similarly, the western monarch population’s remarkable rebounds—from fewer than 2,000 butterflies in 2020 to over 330,000 in 2021, demonstrate a species with enormous reproductive resilience when conditions align. This capacity for rapid recovery further argues against the idea that small-scale rearing is a meaningful drag on the population.
Rearing is not just a pleasant hobby, it is one of the most effective tools we have for building the next generation of conservationists. James (2024) states plainly that “the rearing of monarch caterpillars, particularly by children, is an important human link to nature that has positive ramifications for insect conservation beyond monarch butterflies and should be encouraged.”
The Royal Society of Canada (2021) similarly notes that indoor rearing “arguably goes a long way towards awareness and education” and creates “deep and meaningful learning opportunities.” Research on citizen science programs like the Monarch Larva Monitoring Project has shown that participants report increased conservation awareness and increased local conservation activism (Lewandowski & Oberhauser, 2017; Kountoupes & Oberhauser, 2008).
In an era when children spend less time outdoors and the “extinction of experience” with nature is accelerating, raising a monarch from egg to butterfly may be one of the most powerful entry points into environmental awareness that exists. Telling people to stop doing this, without strong evidence of population-level harm, risks losing the very advocates monarchs need most.
Legitimate concerns about rearing do exist, and responsible rearers should take them seriously. The key risks identified in the literature include the spread of the OE parasite if hygiene practices are poor, the possibility of reduced fitness in monarchs reared for many generations in continuous captivity (as in commercial operations), and the theoretical risk of disrupting local genetic adaptation if butterflies are moved long distances before release.
However, every one of these risks is manageable through straightforward best practices: testing for OE and sanitizing equipment, rearing wild-sourced (not commercially purchased) eggs and caterpillars, keeping butterflies in conditions that reflect the natural season, providing exposure to natural light and temperature cycles, rearing at small scale and releasing locally, and avoiding rearing on tropical milkweed in regions where it does not go dormant.
None of these concerns justify a blanket condemnation of all rearing. The science distinguishes between responsible hobbyist rearing and multi-generational commercial breeding, and the two should not be conflated.
The peer-reviewed literature does not say “stop rearing monarchs.” It says rearing conditions matter, commercial multi-generational breeding is different from hobbyist rearing, reared monarchs can and do migrate when given natural cues, the population-level impact of hobbyist rearing is negligible compared to pesticides, habitat loss, and climate change, and the educational and conservation engagement benefits are real and significant.
The next time someone tells you that “science says rearing is bad,” ask them which study they mean. Ask whether it was about commercially bred monarchs or wild-sourced ones, whether the butterflies were tested in a laboratory simulator or tracked in the actual wild, and whether the study accounted for rearing conditions. The answers matter, and they usually tell a different story than the headline.
Monarchs need every advantage they can get: they need habitat, plenty of milkweed, fewer pesticides, and, most importantly, they need people who care enough to learn about them, protect them, and advocate for them. Responsible rearing is part of that picture, not a threat to it. And this is our sub position.
r/MonarchButterfly • u/SNM_2_0 • Jun 28 '26
Rearing monarch butterflies is constantly being attacked, but research indicates that, if done responsibly, not only does it not harm wild monarch populations, but it could actually help them.
Read our sub's position here: https://www.reddit.com/r/MonarchButterfly/comments/1ui59g7/what_the_science_actually_says_about_rearing/
This rule applies to posts and comments.
r/MonarchButterfly • u/No-Current3902 • 3h ago
Next year Ill be ready. They loved live plants rather than the leaves so I'll be planting milkweed in pots. How do they look?
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r/MonarchButterfly • u/Naive-Apple8099 • 3h ago
I’m not posting this to start drama, I’m posting this because I’m honestly just tired of people saying I’m “irresponsible” with my rearing after only seeing a few photos. It’s understandable to question and concern, but time and time again, even on other posts, false information is spread about monarchs and it’s a responsibility to correct it and teach others about them. There is no one way to rear, and because someone isn’t following some guidelines that an organization made, doesn’t mean they’re doing something wrong.
I genuinely take pride in this, check on them multiple times a day, prepare according to weather and other factors. I learned the vast majority of what I know about them from experience and documentation.
This is my current setup for this year. INSIDE NOW because of inconsistent temperature outside. The previous post was taken OUTSIDE ON A PORCH.
Some years ago, I kept them outside when the temperature dropped, resulting in over a dozen dying from it. This is why I take them indoors sometimes.
As you can see, there is plenty of room for them and they had many other areas to choose. When more eclose, after OE checking and tagging, they’ll be moved to a bigger enclosure until being released. I don’t release one at a time. Monarchs are very social and will gather in clusters to stay warm, I want to make sure that they can do that and give them as much of a chance to survive as I feasibly can.
The plastic part is on top so easy removal is possible if needed. In past broods the mesh has made removing a chrysalis difficult, sometimes pulling down multiple others with it. Like this, I can cut a circle around the chrysalis and remove it without any others being disturbed.
Caterpillars don’t only produce and lay silk in their final instar, they do it constantly throughout growth. That’s why they shimmy their heads back and forth along leaves and other surfaces. Because of this, the plastic part had more grip than it seems and didn’t require an overly strenuous amount of energy to silk and button.
I’ve been refining and learning as I go, shifting care depending on each individuals temperament, and this brood was much more lax and social with each other, choosing to stay close to one another when other places existed and accessible.
r/MonarchButterfly • u/boopwoopdoopdoop • 3h ago
I found a beautiful Monarch butterfly on my porch & the poor thing has a little hole at the bottom of her wing. I gave her some sugar water and she’s been hanging out on me inside, I just put her in the garden but it seems she still isn’t able to fly. Is there anything I can do further to help her get back on her journey or is it just her time? :(
r/MonarchButterfly • u/Caliveggie • 7h ago
Hello I am in Huntington Beach but work in Irvine, so Orange County. Any recommendations are welcome. I have had 38 fly away and just had one go into chrysalis today and one in a j hang right now but I am concerned because I have 7 that are very small. I hope my 25 native milkweeds in pots can regrow but for the first time this year I am worried.
r/MonarchButterfly • u/HawkeyeBubber • 1d ago
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r/MonarchButterfly • u/Cultural_Path_1523 • 1d ago
Bluetooth sensors attached to butterflies with eyelash glue are helping scientists study monarch migration patterns from Nebraska to Mexico.
r/MonarchButterfly • u/naked_unafraid • 2d ago
Pictures from my front garden this weekend. Golden Colorado
r/MonarchButterfly • u/fridgeciggie • 2d ago
This is my friend Monty. She was a flightless Monarch but she was the coolest gal I’ve ever known. I met her at the farm I work on, and looked after her for a while. Once I found out she had OE, I built her an enclosure and fed her fresh flowers every day. I wanted to give her the best possible life she could have while keeping the rest of the population safe from infection. She passed away today, and although I knew it was coming, I’m pretty heart broken. I thought this sub would enjoy these pictures of my friend.
While she was living with me, we spent a lot of time educating myself and our community about Monarchs, and how to preserve their natural habitats. She was deeply beloved by everyone who got to know her story, myself especially.
rest in peace my sweet Monty, I hope you get to fly in your next life.
r/MonarchButterfly • u/EDRONEANATOR • 3d ago
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r/MonarchButterfly • u/lisquit • 2d ago
I found this beautiful girl tonight in the middle of a parking lot. It's been getting way colder at night in my area, so the little lady was pretty lethargic when I found her, and there weren't any plants around to rest on. She's all warmed up now and enjoying some tasty sugar water on a napkin until morning when I'll release her into my pollinator garden!
On a different note, if anyone with more experience caring for monarchs has any advice on keeping them comfortable, I'd love to hear it! Right now, she's just been given a 1:6 ratio of sugar water soaked on a piece of paper towel, and I have a plastic colander over her for safe keeping lol.
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r/MonarchButterfly • u/CianGal13 • 3d ago
This beautiful boy emerged today
r/MonarchButterfly • u/RowInevitable7986 • 3d ago
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r/MonarchButterfly • u/EntertainerPlus6272 • 2d ago
Hey yall.
I am in central texas and I cold stratified my seeds too early. I was eager but I may have also put too much moisture in the bags.
Setup
-Ziplock bag
-Play sand
-Water
-Seeds
Seeds that I have
-swamp
Butterfly
Common
Snowy
I put them in the fridge at least a month a go and forgot about them.
My ultimate question is can I save them?
Should I just plant what I have? Texas has two monarch/milkweed seasons. I would grow these indoors and propagate for next year
r/MonarchButterfly • u/RowInevitable7986 • 3d ago
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Yesterday there were two females laying eggs. And today there’s another one. I moved one plant into the enclosure that had a few eggs on it. And I’m checking the leaves of the other plants if I see a leaf with an egg or two I’m moving that into the enclosure as well. Eeek-so late in the season. But…..
r/MonarchButterfly • u/RowInevitable7986 • 3d ago
Now I can dismantle this enclosure and concentrate on the other one.
r/MonarchButterfly • u/Cultural-Baseball-38 • 3d ago
I chased this all over the yard with my nikon for 30 minutes but it finally let me get a picture
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r/MonarchButterfly • u/HellSpawn42066 • 4d ago
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