Link from another post of the same video said the dog survived. It must have slipped out of trouble just in time because I thought that dog was gonzo for sure.
The one comment I want to believe. The phone fell out the car so I thought that dog was smushed between the door,her chest and the bag. Like a crushed soda can.
Small brownish head is seen in the bottom right corner of your visibility into the car if you can slow it down/toggle through to about 2-3seconds into the video
Driving and holding a dog like this is crazy. Even if you are the best driver on the road, shit happens. A perfectly well behaved dog may still panic and run into traffic after an accident too
Kennels or harnesses that clip into the seatbelts are way safer for them
working in collision teaches you that anything not strapped down or tied down including babies or dogs and especially full grown humans turn into projectiles. Fatalities can occur in accidents as slow as 30 mph. Whenever I see a dog with it's head out the window or anyone not wearing a seatbelt or a child not strapped into a booster seat, I've seen first responders picking up dismembbered body parts of people and animals off the road and those images never leave your mind.
Also anyone not buckled up in the vehicle becomes a danger to everyone else buckled up in the car. People don't recognize the risks they take by not buckling up.
Ive has to explain this to both my parents and in laws....my car doesnt move unless everyone is buckled because your stupid ass isnt taking me out with you
Yeah. People mistreating dogs frustrates me a lot. My girl rides in the back seat all the time, but she's still secured with a leash and harness for this exact reason.
Plus, despite being ninety pounds, she insists she's a lap dog, and we can't have that while driving.
There's just a little bit of brown by her lap right next to the door and then you can see it during impact on the bottom door side of the steering wheel. I wish I could find some sort of article about this. It kind of looks like a dog but could also be a purse. Idk
I have always said that my people drive like we are in a race and will only arrive if we get there first. We treat fellow drivers like competitors more than humans.
It does happen often. Animals are unknown quantities that will do things you don't expect no matter how well trained. They should never be in the front seat and restricted to some degree no matter what for basic safety of everyone in the vehicle.
Yeah i have a seatbelt clip i tie on the back of the headrest in the backseat. Even if my well behaved and trained dog WANTED to act up, he wouldn’t be able to go very far, jump out the window, climb into the front etc.. which means i can focus on driving and also know he is safe too.
I keep my dog in the front seat. The front passenger seat. With a harness that is buckled in with the seatbelt. She has enough room to move and adjust herself on the seat and to stick her nose out the window.
My little creature is super old and just sits there in the passenger seat, but when she was a baby, she was in the back seat because you couldn't be sure what she'd do at any given moment.
I sold my motorcycle after smartphones became a thing. The number of close calls skyrocketed, and I figured it was only a matter of time before some jackass staring at some stupid TikTok dance video took me out.
I sold mine for the same reason about 10 years ago but I bought another this year because I missed it. New bike is tall/white and I wear a bright helmet/gear. it has helped. I'm down to about 1 person turning left in front of me every two weeks instead of every ride.
As a dog owner, I never understood the lack of thought process in other owners who have their dog on the lap while driving. They never think they could end up in a collision.
The old people in my area drive 25 mph all the time, including through red lights and stop signs. But they will insist they are safe because of their speed.
This is irritating. I bought a dog net and doggie seatbelts to keep my dogs in place. Got door protectors so they can sniff out the window without scratches. My stepdad was a state trooper and told me the deceased pets and kids always crushed him when he responded to accidents. Made it a point to protect both when I'm driving.
I really hate knowing that no matter how good of a driver I am and no matter how careful I am, at some point some moron is gonna fuck my life up because they can't go five minutes without looking at their phone.
You are never supposed to be so close, or going so fast, as to be unable to stop if the car in front of you comes to a sudden stop for whatever reason. If you rear end someone, you are 100% at fault. That is the way the law works in these situations.
"The officer reported the dog was fine and but had a swollen eye"
I don't know if that's swelling around the eye or an actual swollen eyeball, could've been alot worse though very lucky it came out relatively unscathed
Your seeing the vehicle finish stopping from the rear view. Maybe that is making it seem like an abrupt stop. The camera didn't look like it was jerking around like it would for a break check or a panic stop. Subarus can't stop on a dime.
You can mention it but it's not relevant. You should be driving with a safe enough gap to respond to literally any amount of braking, especially if there's an emergency
It does matter as it was a contributing factor to how the accident happened. Doing things on the road that others don’t expect lead to accidents. It’s not their fault but some people want to avoid incidents like this by avoiding legal but higher risk maneuvers all together
If the vehicle stopped for an animal on the road, would you be questioning the stop?
If the vehicle stopped because there is traffic ahead, would you be questioning the stop?
If the vehicle stopped because the driver had a sudden medical emergency, would you be questioning the stop?
The onus is ALMOST ALWAYS on the following car. This is one of those cases, it's not an exception. The driver was distracted, and had ages to slam on the brakes, even if the stop ahead was unwarranted. The following driver also wasn't tailing, so it's not even one of those brake check situations.
Just stop using your phone and stop being distracted. Pay attention on the road.
Of course the onus is on the following car, but that is not going to make the driver who got rear ended feel any better or magically fix their car. You folks on here got to see past The who is at fault blame game and realize being right doesn’t mean a whole lot right now for the driver that was hit. If it were me I would have rather hit a small animal and pull over instead of stopping immediately and getting rear ended.
The contributing factor are...the lady had no seatbelt on. was texting while driving. had a dog in her lap.
It literally makes 0 difference ever why somebody stopped.
You dont know if somebody infront of that person is trying to pull in their driveway. if its a red light...a stop sign...you have no idea and none of it matters.
The driver wasn't paying attention and truthfully...after the footage shouldn't be allowed to get behind a wheel again.
People forget all to often...Driving is a Privilege
You are driving a weapon
if you cant handle it safetly...
you shouldnt be allowed to do it.
There is a reason why defensive driving is taught. If you don’t understand that just because something is permissible under the law, it still may not be the best thing to do, there is no hope for you.
I think the guy you replied to agrees with you, my guy. Do you even bother to read, or do you just want to start arguments? And yes, I'm happy to start this argument even though I agree with you because you need to chill if people who agree with you are causing you to crash out.
Not interested in arguing unless it’s going to be logic based. My point is coming to a full stop in the middle of a one lane highway may be legal but you are probably going to regret it. Not being at fault does not make you immune to the consequences of dealing with an accident, if you have ever made an insurance claim you know you are not going to be made 100% whole. That’s not even including the time and effort it takes to deal with the accident and repairs.
I'm with you on this one. This is how a lot of insurance scams work. It just seems weird to slam on the brakes in the middle of a highway. I hope the driver and the dog are okay.
Doesn't look at all like they made a sudden stop, more like the lady didn't realize traffic was slowing ahead of them and continued at speed. Relative velocities and such,
Surprised nobody else mentioned this. The car even rolls forward after the collision so it’s not like there was sudden traffic in front of them. This looks like a brake check.
Nah. I’ve T-boned a neighbor that left their stop sign while my street had no stop, though. Even though my car was going faster and ran into hers, she was found at fault for pulling out in front of me.
Why are you suddenly not against irrelevant topics?
When you rear end someone they don't have to provide reason why they stopped. The "brake checking" you are talking about is not the same as suddenly coming to a stop and being rear ended.
“When you rear end someone they don’t have to provide reason why they stopped”
According to who? The dash cam shows they went from 35 mph to a sudden stop and there was no white line, crosswalk, or seemingly anything in front of the dash cam car. You think if you suddenly stop in the middle of a highway and someone hits you that the investigators aren’t gonna ask why you stopped in the middle of the highway?
When I got rear ended by someone going similar speed no one asked me why I stopped.
Reddit is full of people that think they can tailgate and it's on the person in front of them to prevent a collision. That makes no sense.
"Brake checking" isn't as common as you want to believe. This woman was driving phone in hand no seatbelt dog on lap and rear ended the person in front. It's her fault. No one cares why the vehicle stopped. It's not illegal to stop on a road.
Exactly. Somebody stops because they thought they saw someone trying to cross. Maybe that was a mistaken impression. Maybe it was a flash of light that confused them. It's not wrong to slow or stop if they think "what the hell is that" rather than get into a possible accident.
It's the job of the person behind them to always assume "that car ahead of me could stop at any time" and leave enough room. You don't know what could happen. The person driving the car ahead of you could have a heart attack and keel over in the seat.
You could say you thought you saw someone trying to cross the street. Doesn't matter if that was just a mistaken impression. You have the right to stop whenever you feel it necessary and nobody can prove you wrong.
Which is why you better stay well back of anyone so you can stop in time.
I’m guessing that just because you weren’t at fault the situation wasn’t magically over. You had to deal with a lot of inconveniences that you won’t be compensated for. It’s crazy that people on here think that the discussion just ends at who is at fault. Being right doesn’t mean not exclude you from consequences, it just makes them a bit more manageable.
" Brake checking is illegal in several states for a reason."
Tell me you're a bad driver without telling me you're a bad driver. The black car was pretty far back, absolutely no reason to think they were brake checking. Also unless you have undeniable proof, brake checking is very hard to prove legally. Yet you're here like yep they were probably brake checking! Also that black car had plenty of time to stop because they weren't tailgating, just weren't paying attention clearly.
There's plenty of distance, so it was not a brake check. There doesn't need to be a valid reason for someone who is distracted and at that distance to not slam on their brakes and stop.
One of my most clear memories of high school is in drivers ed, a fellow student was a volunteer firefighter (or maybe just really wanted to be lol) gave a whole speech about not carrying your little dogs while driving. Wish she were there
From 34Mph to 0 in just a few meters is a no go...
Even there is trafick in front I break the pedal slow a little check the drivers behind speed and distance and break slowly.
If something pop up in front of me, then I will do as this driver did...
No pets in the car, (only in the trank to the veterinary and back) and only with seatbelts especially kids...
This is why dogs are legally required to be strapped into a seatbelt in the car. Put a harness on your dog and get a pet seatbelt and out them in the backseat.
Idiot driver 4 sure, like who has not only their dog on their lap but their phone out, and no seatbelt on.
There is a way to have a cell phone conversation in a car. It's called speakerphone. There are even things that you can put into your car where you can attach your cellphone to so it works with your car's stereo. Hell, you don't even have to plug anything anywhere these days, just have your phone with you and bluetooth on and it will automagically connect once you have paired them just one single time!
Most modern (read: built after 2015) cars have that as a standard feature... dunno about US made cars, but the rest of the world HAS arrived in THIS century by now!
There is really NO excuse anymore to hold a cellphone in your hand and be distracted while driving!
for people who never experienced an airbag, that thing can knock you out, i can even think what it would do to a small dog getting smashed between the airbag and a person
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u/Only_Flan_7974 7d ago
Permanent loss of license and pet ownership.